Chemtrails and Scalar Activity

[Pressed_Rat]

Anyone who has read my threads long enough has heard me speak of chemtrails. What these chemtrails are is predominately barium and aluminum oxides (along with other things) being released into the atmosphere in order to make the atmosphere more conductive to the electromagnetic pulse technology that is being applied to it to alter it and manipulate weather patterns. Scalar coulds are clouds which display charateristics of this EMP/HAARP (High-Frequency Active Auroral Research Project) application.

These photos were taken from meterologist and researcher Scott Stevens' Weather Wars (http://www.weatherwars.info/index.php) website:

http://216.117.143.63/oneadmin/_files/Image/waves/1-24-05%20016[1].jpg

http://216.117.143.63/oneadmin/_files/Image/waves/Dee%20Finny.jpg

http://216.117.143.63/oneadmin/_files/Image/waves/Mar13_05_BC5.jpg

http://216.117.143.63/oneadmin/_files/Image/waves/200705%200613.jpg

[seamonster66]

I liked that news report that one of your myspace friends had posted, very interesting stuff. I liked seeing it on a local newscast. Seems one of the more verifiable conspiracies out there. perhaps you should explian a bit about the effects these are having on health.

[Pressed_Rat]

These are some pictures of scalar clouds I took myself in my backyard:


http://myspace-894.vo.llnwd.net/00751/49/88/751218894_l.jpg

http://myspace-828.vo.llnwd.net/00751/82/84/751214828_l.jpg

[Pressed_Rat]

Here are some more from Scott Stevens weatherwars.info website:

http://216.117.143.63/oneadmin/_files/Image/waves/weird6.jpg

http://216.117.143.63/oneadmin/_files/Image/06_02feb/Perth_Aus_Robin.jpg

http://216.117.143.63/oneadmin/_files/Image/06_02feb/CoronaCA26dec05_gary_1.jpg

http://216.117.143.63/oneadmin/_files/Image/06_02feb/DSCF0040-1.jpg

[Pressed_Rat]

http://216.117.143.63/oneadmin/_files/Image/jan06/boise_cloud010506a.jpg

http://216.117.143.63/oneadmin/_files/Image/jan06/DrewBoise_04jan06_5.jpg

http://www.weatherwars.info/images/highclouds/04.jpg

http://www.weatherwars.info/images/midclouds/DSCN4109z.jpg

[zeppelin kid]

Its safe to say those aren't normal cloud formations.

[Pressed_Rat]

http://www.bariumblues.com/images/scalar9-9-4_609pm.jpg


http://photos.imageevent.com/firesat/strangedaysstrangeskies/icons/emr3.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/firesat/strangedaysstrangeskies/icons/harp_clouds2-1.jpg

http://www.cheniere.org/books/ferdelance/s1.htm1.jpg

[Nalencer]

Its safe to say those aren't normal cloud formations.

Fuckin agreed. I see these all the time.

[themnax]

many unusual weather patterns are a direct resault of what is called global warming. a condition of nature unnaturaly created, primarily by the diproportionate human population using combustion to generate energy and propell transportation.

the POSSIBILITY that other things are being done deliberately ALSO does of course also exist.

there was a very excellent story serialized in analog a good many years back, sometime in the late 80s or early 90s called "fixed price war" about wars being fought by arms contractors in a then near future, a then near future remarkably like many events that have since 9-11 subsiquently happened. including the use of sattilites to effect weather conditions and the imperfections of that control and how that might backfire, like the dust storms during early stages of the invasion of iraq.

this topic, at this point, while in the realm of the quite possible, is based largely on some pretty wild speculation. not that wild speculation can't at times resemble reality, that can and does happen, but pretty wild speculation none the less.

also we are seeing lots of things with immaging tecnology and immage manipulation tecnologies that it is relatively recent that we are able to see at all, so to say they did not or could not have existed before we had the capacity to do so, is, i fear, quite speculative itself.

i'm not questioning the possibility of the conclusion in this case, just the conclusiveness of the 'evidence'.

=^^=
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[Ironcore]

How are the cloud formations used as weapons?

[Nalencer]

Once this project is complete, and even before then - it's already been used a few times - this can be used to manipulate weather patterns. It also can act as a conductor for whatever electromagnetic frequencies they want to beam at us. Rat can probably give you a more detailed overview.

[Pressed_Rat]

How are the cloud formations used as weapons?The clouds aren't being used as weapons. The clouds are merely showing you the scalar influence in the atmosphere due to the electromagnetic pulse technology that's being used. It's this scalar activity that's being used to alter weather patterns and the jet stream. It can also be used for a wide variety of other reasons, including mind control. The human nervous system operates in the same ELF (Extremely Low Frequency) range. There are dozens, if not hundreds of uses for this technology (bad and good), and weather modificaton is only one of the more obvious ones.

Here's a video presentation by Lt Col. Tom Bearden (retd.) regarding scalar weaponry and weather modification, which was first perfected by the Russians back in the 60s:

http://www.cheniere.org/video/sovietweathervideo.html

I also recommend Bearden's website at:

http://www.cheniere.org (http://www.cheniere.org/)

People need to understand what scalar technology is, because it can be used for so many things. We are talking about technology that can completely free us from our dependence on oil, cure diseases such as cancer, and do other miraculous things. In the wrong hands it can also be used in a way that can kill millions of people. Obviously this technology is being suppressed by the government and kept from the public, so most people have no idea this kind of thing even exists.

[Pressed_Rat]

Another website people need to check out is:

http://www.weatherwars.info

This is meterologist and weather research Scott Stevens' EXCELLENT website. There are some excellent pictures of anomalous scalar clouds on this site, as well as lots of interesting information as well.

[Grim]

I've read about chemtrails before, but this is the first time I've seen Scalar clouds.
Interesting stuff...I've seen those from time to time too.

[Pressed_Rat]

Here are some more pages to check out regarding scalar electromagnetics:

What is "Scalar Electromagnetics"? (http://www.bariumblues.com/scalar_em101.htm)

The Brave New World of Scalar Electromagnetics (http://www.prahlad.org/pub/bearden/scalar_wars.htm)

Weather Modification a Long-Established, Though Secretive, Reality (http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005/09/06/9600160_Weather_Modification/index.html)

Scalar Weather Modification (http://www.darkgovernment.com/weathermod.html)

Tom Bearden on the Coming Scalar Armageddon (http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=45210)

Soviet Scalar Weapons (http://iron-eagles.tripod.com/articles/emweapons.htm)

[Ironcore]

Interesting, thanks Pressed Rat.

[bamboo]

What these chemtrails are is predominately barium and aluminum oxides (along with other things) being released into the atmosphere in order to make the atmosphere more conductive to the electromagnetic pulse technology that is being applied to it to alter it and manipulate weather patterns. Scalar coulds are clouds which display charateristics of this EMP/HAARP (High-Frequency Active Auroral Research Project) application.


Barium and Aluminum Oxide(s) are INSULATORS not conductors. Aluminum oxide is endemic in the earth environment and makes up a fair portion of ordinary dust. THe exhaust trail of the shuttle SRBs is predominantly aluminum oxide as is the smoke from most fireworks. Barium is less predominant in the environment and is usually found as the carbonate etc. Take a class in meteorolgy and you woul be less impressed by some of the pictures that you posted......worry about something more important and relevant if you find it necessary to worry at all.

[Pressed_Rat]

First of all, we are talking about electromagnetic scalar energy here. Secondly, aluminum doesn't occur naturally in the levels found in high spray areas. Neither does barium. There is a difference between normal levels and unusually high (very high) levels that are not only turning up in the air but our water supplies as well.

As for the pictures, I have learned to tell the difference between obscure natural clouds and artificial ones.

Lastly, the technology exists, and has for decades.

Thanks for being so closed-minded, asshole.

[bamboo]

I repeat myself...Aluminum oxide is endemic in the environment...that means that at some level or another it can be found almost everwhere. Most of the pictures that you have posted are cirrus clouds. The rippled pattern is very common in the high altitude clouds. they are composed mostly of tiny ice crystals. The same is even found on mars, although, to a lesser extent due to the lower wator vapour content of the martial atmosphere. Let me ask you this...were "THEY" using these things fifty or a hundred years ago? I have been around for fifty years and have seen these same clouds all of my life and I have seen the same pictures in text books that are now seventy five years old (I collect old books). However, I grew up in the country and spent 3/4's of my life in the great out doors and tended to look up once in a while. What you have there, in short, are pretty pictures and damned little common sense.

[Pressed_Rat]

Yes, aluminum is endemic in nature. I admitted to this. I also stated that there are normal levels, and levels that are abnormally high and completely off the scale in relation to natural occuring aluminum.

I also know the difference between the natural ripples in cirrus clouds and the unnatural ones that are a product of scalar energy. I understand that some natural clouds can have ripples.

And no, there are certain types of clouds that just were not around 50 years ago.

If you don't believe this technology exists, just look into the work of retired Army colonel Tom Bearden, a nuclear engineer and war games and weapons analyst.

[bamboo]

You weren't here 25 years ago. I was. The sky has not changed only the eyes that are looking at it.

[Child of Nature]

Sorry, man. Rat's right. Look into it. But then, you won't because none of you idiots ever do. If you're not willing to do any research, get the fuck out of here. There's no point debating someone who will not admit to even a shadow of a doubt that they're wrong. If you want to prove they don't exist, read the piles of evidence and discredit it. If you read it objectively, you'll be convinced. If you read it with a bias, it'll take some major self-deception, but most people are capable of it. So, you know. Be objective or get lost.

[bamboo]

Sorry, man. Rat's right. Look into it. But then, you won't because none of you idiots ever do. If you're not willing to do any research, get the fuck out of here. There's no point debating someone who will not admit to even a shadow of a doubt that they're wrong. If you want to prove they don't exist, read the piles of evidence and discredit it. If you read it objectively, you'll be convinced. If you read it with a bias, it'll take some major self-deception, but most people are capable of it. So, you know. Be objective or get lost.
I have. And I have studied the other side of the issue as well and the rebuttal is more compelling to me.
I would like to appologize for coming off rather crude, though. I had something going on in my life at that moment and I kind of took it out here. That is not like me.

[paq]

interesting other types of chemtrails, http://educate-yourself.org/mnt/ctsuppressionhumanevolution29sep00.shtml
give it a read.

ps anyone know how to upload personal avatars?

[paq]

bamboo
dont try and hide out, youre opinion is old consciousness forced. you are not being real you are faking.

[Pressed_Rat]

http://urbansurvival.com/stevens.htm

[bamboo]

Sorry, man. Rat's right. Look into it. But then, you won't because none of you idiots ever do. If you're not willing to do any research, get the fuck out of here. Be objective or get lost.Dude that's harsh and uncalled for. I HAVE reseached it. Haarp has been around for awhile. Conspiracy theory has been around for ever. I respect much of what Rat says here but the scalar wave thing...TO ME, just doesn't measure up. I have a lot of interests and I do a lot of things. One of them is amature astronomy. I look at the sky a lot...A WHOLE LOT and I can objectively say that the sky and clouds have not changed in the fifty years that I have been around. All of the pictures of the clouds are really just natural cloud formations that many folks have just suddenly became aware of. It is not unlike many of the UFO true believers. EVERY moving light in the sky is a UFO to them even if 99.99% of them are man made or explanable natural phenomenon (that still leaves the 0.001% that are really hard to explain). There are many things about the upper atmosphere that are new or as of yet undiscovered. Sprites and some of the other coronal like displays were unheard of ten or fifteen years ago.
I am not saying that it is impossible to mess with the ionosphere and cause changes in the atmosphere below it and i am not saying that it is not being done...just don't show me pictures of NATURAL atmosperic events and try to tell me that they are UNNATURAL
Do you even know what coronal heating is, how it's done or what the effects that can be contributed to it are? Do you even know what the ionoshpere is...troposphere or anything else associated with this conspiracy or do you just jump on the bandwagon out of ignorance (not talking to you Rat)?
I am objective but I am not ignorant. before I put my stamp of belief on any thing I research all the data and not just the data that suits me. The one thing of value in all the years of school that I attended was HOW TO FIND INFORMATION...how to look things up, and how to make INTILLEGENT decisions based on the facts.
Many of Rat's opinions are based on material originated in places like the John Birch Society. That's not a bad thing but it is a biased thing. I am reasonably sure that Rat knows what the Council on Foreign Relations is. They produce a quarterly magazine...I researched every issue in a local college Library back to issue # 1...can you say the same? have you even read one issue of there quarterly report or do you just take the info that you are fed without looking into it for yourself?
I respect RAT... he seems to be well read and has obviously read a good deal of material from MANY different sources...how about you Child of Nature?

[Pressed_Rat]

Bamboo - are you aware of this statement made by former Secretary of Defense William Cohen back in 1997?

http://www.enterprisemission.com/weblog/uploaded_images/Def_Cohen-714794.jpg

[bamboo]

Bamboo - are you aware of this statement made by former Secretary of Defense William Cohen back in 1997?

http://www.enterprisemission.com/weblog/uploaded_images/Def_Cohen-714794.jpg
yes...my objection is not the possibility of this happening but is the pictures most often used as "examples" of it. I have not seen but one or two of the hundreds of photos that i have looked at that were anything but natural clouds...odd looking clouds to most but still clouds. I will see if i can find the pics that were of something odd and pass them on.

[happyhippyflower]

you can lead a horse to water but can't make him drink


what goes up must come down

[paq]

babylon will fall. humans are awakening spiritually and im spreading the message. peace. bless.

[paq]

i found chemtrails! look, south facing and the air force base is only 15miles south in that exact line. hahah look http://www.angelfire.com/ultra/tmoreshead/cloud.html

[leigh41663]

good job Pressed Rat... recognize you from "WM"

[Pressed_Rat]

What is WM?

[leigh41663]

Warrior Matrix "WM"