brrr...cold in steamboat at night! [Archive]

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kayte

06-20-2006, 04:25 PM

i checked the weather report. average daytime temp around 80 (great-not too hot!) it gets to be round 60 by 8 pm, and down to 40 through the night. bring some blankets!

free2fly

06-20-2006, 06:09 PM

lol .. yep... Ive been keeping an eye on that too ... last week it said it was going down in the 30's one night ..... *brrrrrr* yep people, come prepared :) lol

Gyva02

06-20-2006, 07:27 PM

Gooooose bumps...... ha ha... breaking out the beanie.... and I belive steamboat is lower elevation than the gathering site.... ANyone read those topos better than me?? just how much are the differences between the gathering site and steamboat elevations....

Mike...

Normlzach

06-20-2006, 08:21 PM

The difference is 2,000 feet, steamboat is at 6800 and the site is roughly 8800, its gonna be a lot colder at the site.

kayte

06-21-2006, 07:27 AM

is it true that, at that elevation, people who aren't used to the change (me, for example!) will experience some altitude sickness? my friends told me that any substance that enters the body at a higher altitude will make me twice as fucked up. is this true? 8800 ft. seems pretty elevated!

Normlzach

06-21-2006, 03:51 PM

In my experiences, I have not known anyone to get very sick at an elevation less than 10,000 ft, just keep yourself as hydrated as possible, but every person is different. You will get more drunk at a higher elevation, I'm not sure about other substances.

Bumble

06-21-2006, 07:19 PM

i don't do good in cold weather so you may see me walking around with my blanket at night..LOL...I'm coming WELL prepared.

soaringeagle

06-22-2006, 12:50 AM

altatude sickness can affect you in the 9000 range as well, above 10,000 your suposed to use oxygen if your there longer then 30 minutes however smokeres & anyone with any breathing issues should a lower altitudes, osha helps get rid of the altitude sickness & helps u absorb oxygen better (yarrow too i hear) both grow above 10,000 right where u need it
as for temp, it is possible to be 90 durring the day & drop below freezing at night, so be prepared for all weather
a couple stones from the firepit will keep ya warm, just make sure theyre not too hot
i'm predictin alotta cuddle puddles just for warmth
utah was worse & higher, & i remember every night stayin by the fire till i saw the 1st kints of light, grabbin 5-6 hot rocks & huggin em in my sleepin bag..by the time the rocks cooled off the sun was warmin up the tent..i'd get a couple hours sleep in & wake up sweattin like crazy & dehydrated
on the plus side, at that altitude the stars are truly awe inspiring
anyone know though, is there hard woods to burn? or just pine?

Gyva02

06-22-2006, 01:39 AM

Don't be scared little feller, your town will survive :)

Mike...

soaringeagle

06-22-2006, 01:44 AM

actualy south park will get quite a economic boom after the gatherin, i know a buncha folks are headed there after..drum circle in cartmans backyard yay

free2fly

06-22-2006, 01:53 AM

lol!

http://www.myspacecomedy.com/images/cartoons/cartoons-southpark13.jpg

........... ;)

cheese-wiz

06-22-2006, 02:12 AM

I have a better idea. Don't show up to begin with.were going to steal you in the night and make you smoke pot and hugg you and make you dance and sing and all those terrible things...youre conversion is coming....you will not be able to hide....resistance is futile!http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

Medusamama

06-22-2006, 03:18 AM

were going to steal you in the night and make you smoke pot and hugg you and make you dance and sing and all those terrible things...youre conversion is coming....you will not be able to hide....resistance is futile!http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif
Naked. Dance NAKED. Can't forget the naked part.

DancerAnnie

06-22-2006, 05:32 AM

paix

06-22-2006, 09:48 AM

also, there's the manditory birth re-enactment, from a pit of mud, naked, don't forget that!

serriously though folks, I heard a rumor (I know I know, good rainbow boys and girls pay no heed to rumors) about a fire ban, any truth?

Lis

06-22-2006, 04:47 PM

I am a Steamboat resident and as far as I know there are no fire bans. Lots of very dry, hot weather though... so please be careful when you are here and burning fires. ;)

Lis

06-22-2006, 04:57 PM

A warning to all visitors. The Steamboat animal control issued a public statement yesterday that any dogs found "at large" will be issued an automatic $50 ticket and they charge $15 per day to house your animal in the shelter. Ususally there is a first and sometimes a second time warning, but they are foregoing these warnings and going straight to tickets due to the expceted numbers in the next few weeks. Don't let your dogs run lose within city limits!!!

DancerAnnie

06-22-2006, 05:22 PM

I am a Steamboat resident and as far as I know there are no fire bans. Lots of very dry, hot weather though... so please be careful when you are here and burning fires. ;)Rumor has it they're going to schedule the fire ban on July 1st, according to a newspaper article. How ironic :rolleyes:

Lis

06-22-2006, 05:36 PM

soaringeagle

06-22-2006, 05:56 PM

we have a history of everytime we gather in a state where theres a drought..the drought ends..u cant have a rainbow without rain
in fact i think i remember hearring thatthe 2 foot of snow the first few days i was at utah was the 1st measurable precipitation that area had in,was it years? lis, isnt it stormy there today? & lookin at the weather looks like alotta rain commin that way, there certainly shouldnt be a need for a fireban

Lis

06-22-2006, 06:35 PM

soaringeagle

06-22-2006, 07:01 PM

exactly my point..rainbow always brings plenty of rain & historicaly has ended even the worse droughts
lis ya gonna get some time off work to come chill with us in the woods?

drumminmama

06-22-2006, 08:40 PM

Check out this website
http://www.dola.state.co.us/oem/PublicInformation/firebans/firebans2006.htm
I don't think they can just decide to create a fire ban because of a bunch of hippy's :) It's supposed to be a process based on the weather conditions. There were no fire bans last year on the 4th and I couldn't find any articles about it. Careful not to give rumors too much "fire" that is exactly what is happening with the locals around here and all the storys about hippy's breaking into their homes/cars stealing food...
great site, and one I check while working.
Douglas County is in stage II and part of that county is national forest.
Jamie Moore, Emergency preparedness said that Routt is expecting the ban for July based on weather outlook.
I asked him was it because of the Rainbows and he said no.
I then told him I'd gotten married at Missouri 96. and asked again. He still said no, although fires ARE a big deal here (look up La Veta and the fire there).
That said, if you do get wet, it could be snow at 8K.
Paonia had snow in 92. I drove through flurries in 95 grtting to New Mexico's Carsion National Forest.

soaringeagle

06-22-2006, 09:39 PM

great site, and one I check while working.
Douglas County is in stage II and part of that county is national forest.
Jamie Moore, Emergency preparedness said that Routt is expecting the ban for July based on weather outlook.
I asked him was it because of the Rainbows and he said no.
I then told him I'd gotten married at Missouri 96. and asked again. He still said no, although fires ARE a big deal here (look up La Veta and the fire there).
That said, if you do get wet, it could be snow at 8K.
Paonia had snow in 92. I drove through flurries in 95 grtting to New Mexico's Carsion National Forest. utah had snow above your knees the 1st few days i was there..i stayed in the truck till it melted..& i remember more then a few folks were barefoot, i ended up given em a few pairs of socks which we then wrapped up in duct tape to make makeshift boots..lets hope folksare a bit more prepared for this year
i don't think we'll get snow, but it will get near freezing at night
best to stay near a fire all night & sleep in the morn..damn i wish i had my tipi already, but probly wont have it till next years

SucculentFlower

06-22-2006, 10:16 PM

I was at the Spring Council and the National (planning on coming back) and the environs that I noticed were Mosquitoes and Cold nights. The Mosquitoes are aggressive, sometimes even biting in the sunlight. Our *natural* DEET free shit was worthless after a few minutes, thus the retreat by us for another day. (baby being biten)...there was also lack of *safe* water. THere were filters being used though...
no shuttle yet...

Seed Camp isn't as fun as I thought;P Spring Council was okay. Though the *consensus* is a fake...Rob *told us* where the site was. There weren't any *proposals* to the gathered circle.

Just a few days ago, the ONLY wet spot on the map was Steamboat. I can see why they picked that sight. Too bad it's in a friggin' Mosquito Swamp.

The fire noted by DrumminMama isn't in La Veta, it's just over the hill (mountain) from my Mother's house, on rt. 160 Pass Creek/Mato Vega and Paradise Acres...my old stomping' grounds...

The National site is SOGGY w/moss...bring tarps. Also it's a burner in the day...bring lots of Sunscreen...UV index is rated 9 out of 13

soaringeagle

06-22-2006, 10:57 PM

nothing ever works against the mosquitos at gatherings, but, they only bite the 1st 2 days there, get allittle dirty & hang around a fire alot & dont use any scented products & in 2 days they stop bitting you & start bitting the clean fresh new arrivals
i've even triedsme stuff comando's use in the jungle & it dinothing, but soke & dus& muddoes he trick everytime (and good ow sweehigh garlic diet) in 2 days

Lis

06-22-2006, 11:15 PM

exactly my point..rainbow always brings plenty of rain & historicaly has ended even the worse droughts
lis ya gonna get some time off work to come chill with us in the woods?

Dunno. Probably not, I'm not a hippy type, just don't like all the bad mouthin that is going on around town, so I thought I'd jump online and see what this rainbow thing is all about. I am curious though...

Lis

06-22-2006, 11:16 PM

You guys could be better tippers :) but that's about the worst I can say about you :)

soaringeagle

06-23-2006, 12:08 AM

You guys could be better tippers :) but that's about the worst I can say about you :) wellthat may be true, alotta the early folks are gettin there on a wing & a prayer with pennies to spare, but iguarantee the overal impact on the local economy will make ya very happy (around the 7th would be a good time to ask for a huge raise)

hippiehillbilly

06-23-2006, 12:15 AM

i know for a fact theres day trippers,, motels will be full for miles around,, an they will be sooooooo happy to get "real food".. not to mention the federal law enforcement agents,, who im sure are already there,, they gotta eat..

shit if ya feel law enforcement is a calming thing,, yall as a community are safer than ya ever been.. ;)

if ya worried about the family??

yer lookin the wrong way.. love n light..

pen

06-23-2006, 09:55 PM

blue skyes out my window, but a little breezy. I work in a restaurant with an outdoor patio and we have had to close it a lot recently due to rain. I don't forsee a fire ban, this is one of the wetter summers we have had in a while.
A word about the fireban if it does go in place... I too am a local Lis, and this has most definitely NOT been one of the wetter summers. Yes we had a great winter, but since April we have been well below average in terms of rain and precipitation. Last summer was a wetter summer than average hence why you don't see a ban into place, we had loads of rain and snow all through April May and June of 2005 (in fact we had a snowMemorial weekend and also sometime mid-June). Peak run-off didn't hit until around now. If you look at summers before 2005 you will see numerous fire bans going into effect at the beginning of July.

Look Rainbow folks, I have nothing against your views and opinions, I'm glad to see different faces in Steamboat. But I do ask that if there is a fireban, please obey it. The area you are camping was the site of a blow-down years ago... those blow-down trees have since been subject to lots of beetle-kill. The beetle-kill has also spread to standing trees, creating dead stands of forest as well. If a fireban goes into effect it has nothing to do with the Rainbows being there and has everything to do with the fact that our summer thusfar has been abnormally dry, warm, and windy, and the fire danger is very real. There was a forest fire in the North Routt region in 2002, so the area is not exempt from fire danger.

Just please respect fire laws, every other local and visiting camper obeys these bans when they go into effect out of respect for the forest, the people, and the hard-working fire-fighters that have to put themselves in harms way if a fire were to start. Respect the forest by respecting any firebans.

hippiehillbilly

06-23-2006, 11:24 PM

hheheheeehhehe,, yes dear..

wernt there a article about a fire that we as a family helped stop? i believe theres even a video???

hmm ?? seems like the forest service was very grateful fer that one as well..

luv n light.

pen

06-23-2006, 11:27 PM

soaringeagle

06-23-2006, 11:35 PM

we have never ever started any, in fact we've put out fires started by drunk firefighters, & with a 10 mile bucket brigade put out the wy forreszst fire after the fs firefighters gave up & went home

hippiehillbilly

06-23-2006, 11:36 PM

its all good sister,, ya ever stop to think that we are walkin an the forest service is ridin..

here i found the video..

http://www.archive.org/download/1994WY_wmv_340kbs/1994WY_340kbs.wmv

love n light sister..

i will pray that our visit to your town leaves you with a diffrent light to us as a family..

WE LOVE YOU

pen

06-23-2006, 11:51 PM

we have never ever started any, in fact we've put out fires started by drunk firefighters, & with a 10 mile bucket brigade put out the wy forreszst fire after the fs firefighters gave up & went home
soaringeagle, I'm not saying you ever have started a fire, I've read the past reports on your gatherings so I am aware of the positive impact you could have. I'm simply saying, be aware of the condition of the land where you are gathering right now, and be aware of the fire dangers that exist on that land at this moment... because the danger is real and increasing as this hot, dry weather continues. If you aren't careful it's not out of the realm of possibilities that you could start one. All I've read in this post concerning the fireban is people pointing the finger at the USFS saying that if they institute a ban they're only doing it because of the rainbows... no, they're doing it to protect the forest and also to protect the people gathered there including the rainbow family.

hippiehillbilly

06-23-2006, 11:58 PM

sister,, ya must understand.. .. no never mind ya wont..

im sorry for your lack of understanding..

we do ..

if ya have read enough,, ya know about "THE FIRE NAZIS!"..

HHEHEEEHHEE

soaringeagle

06-24-2006, 04:12 AM

what hes sayin about fire nazis is we habve our own folks who inspect every fire, make sure theres no personal fires, & all firepits are safeas can be with plenty of water on hand in case of any problems, the pits are done to illiminate any chance of future root fires & the areas cleared of debri, the fires are the centers of fucus,
we;'ve been doin thos for years we know how to do ir eight, so we appreciate your voice in this, but the point is, its our voices saying he same thing here
at near freezing firesare necasary, but only communal fires & safe, kitchens can use propane if appropriate, but cook fires are the safest of all
as for blis pit fires, they cannot get out of control with 50 people huddled around it for warth & entertainment we call the fire hippy tv cause we watch it closely for hours on end