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Gravity
06-12-2006, 09:36 PM
The entire foundation rests on the name Jesus. The Romans took away Yeshua's true name because his true name exposed his true identity as the "Son of Joseph"
Yeshua Bar Yosef = Joshua Son of Joseph
If you call him Joshua, Joseph's Son then he cannot be born of an immaculate conception between God and Mariam, etc....
It all rests on the name.
Destroy the foundation and the house falls.
BlackBillBlake
06-12-2006, 09:44 PM
So call Him Christ. No prob then.
He's called different things in different languages. Jesus, Iesus, Isa, Jesu etc.
Kharakov
06-17-2006, 04:30 AM
The entire foundation rests on the name Jesus. The Romans took away Yeshua's true name because his true name exposed his true identity as the "Son of Joseph"
Yeshua Bar Yosef = Joshua Son of Joseph
If you call him Joshua, Joseph's Son then he cannot be born of an immaculate conception between God and Mariam, etc....
It all rests on the name.
Destroy the foundation and the house falls.Yeah, when the christians realise that God was just Josh'n them... Then the Taliban realises their name sounds like towelly ban, and the shiites realise something, and then the.... and the whole world gets it.
thespeez
06-17-2006, 05:05 AM
Christianity is not the problem! The problem is that the faith has been hijacked! What passes today for christianity is not the faith that Jesus tried to preach to us. After Jesus' death, many corrupt religious leaders decided to manipulate scripture for their own personal gain and did their best to 'sell' their agenda as a spiritual agenda. I doubt Jesus would approve of how his message has been manipulated.
catstevens
06-17-2006, 10:35 AM
Hi Gravity http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif
The entire foundation rests on the name Jesus. The Romans took away Yeshua's true name because his true name exposed his true identity as the "Son of Joseph"
Yeshua Bar Yosef = Joshua Son of Joseph
If you call him Joshua, Joseph's Son then he cannot be born of an immaculate conception between God and Mariam, etc....
It all rests on the name.
Destroy the foundation and the house falls.
''Nina 123'' wrote a thread about this issue, Jesus' real name, you can find it here (http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154390)
Some Quotes
UMM, The messiah's name is not now, nor ever has been jesus. The letter J did not even exist during his life time. His name was Yehoshua, or Yashua, meaning Yahweh saves. The name jesus is just another corruption that happened at some time to confuse us all.I have always been interested in why his name was translated WRONG. It seems like kinda a big deal. Even if we were to "translate" his name into english it would translate more along the lines of Joshua. And most names are not translated, but transliterated which is an entirely different thing. When I go to a non english speaking area, i do not change my name. I am Michelle, when in Mexico I was still Michelle, no one ever thought to "translate" my name to Micheala.
I mentioned this matter about changing the names in some parts of my threads you can find it in these links, for example when they changed the name of Allah to God and Lord Allah's name in an old Bible! Photostat (http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140447)
Also, (in the following link post#1 and 2 talk about this matter too (J) ) Unlocking 'Y.H.W.H' + ''Jehovah'' code! The puzzle of their meaning and reality! (http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140444)
The Arabic Bible doesn't call Jesus (Jesus) even the arab Christians they call him (Yasoo'a) ==> the Transliteration could be wrong , Joseph is Yosef (YUSUF), also the arabic Bible call him Yosef (YUSUF)...
The bible in the Arabic version translates Jesus to íÜÓæÚ not to ÌÜíÒÓ plus Joseph to íÜæÓÝ not to ÌÜæÒíÝetc, they use '' Y íÜ '' not '' J ÌÜ'', here are some links for two examples from the Arabic version, Jesus=íÓæÚ (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew%201:1&version=28), Joseph=íæÓÝ (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew%201:16;&version=28)
And here is an enjoyable and interesting video about Jesus' name, in the beginning the lecturer will talk about Muhammad's name then he will move to Jesus and other corrupted names like (Peter, Christ etc) enjoy!
Click here to watch the video (http://webcast.challengeyoursoul.com/index.php?entryId=104&categoryId=16) (Right of the Page)
Does it matter?
IMO yes it does,
This video (http://webcast.challengeyoursoul.com/index.php?entryId=104&categoryId=16) tells why [ in the beginning the lecturer will talk about Muhammad's name then he will move to Jesus and other corrupted names like (Peter, Christ etc) ]
[[[mankind played fast and loose with those pure and holy concepts, adding frills and adornments where no embellishments was needed - it despoiled the language. In the words of Mrs. Ellen G. White, a "prophetess" of the 7th Day Adventist Movement, in her Bible Commentary it is said:"LEARNED MEN HAD IN SOME INSTANCES CHANGED THE WORDS, THINKING THAT THEY WERE MAKING IT PLAIN, WHEN IN REALITY THEY WERE MYSTIFYING THAT WHICH WAS PLAIN"MORE>>> (http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2090802&postcount=1) And here (http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2090826&postcount=1) ]]]
Briefly:we will loose many important facts /things and the meaning of them (words names etc) by doing so (changing them) + we don't have the right to change others' name http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif ( I think changing God's name is Blasphemy)
*Peace and love*
Yours Sincerely,
Cat Stevens
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