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hummblebee
06-09-2006, 11:21 AM
Hey there kiddies! Samhain just linked me to this loverly forum, and it seemed an appropriate place to bring up something that's been on my mind lately: worldly access to alternate spiritual planes (through meditation, drugs, what-have-you). I don't know how else to say it, so let me explain my background here...

Several years ago (holy crap, almost six years, my how time flies) I brewed and drank datura (jimson weed) tea. I did this in the presence of a kind medicine-man; an elder of his tribe, and a personal mentor of mine. It was an amazing, spiritual, and extremely scary experience. The effects lasted for days. The first hours consisted of a mostly confused, almost drunkish feeling. Eventually this settled down, but I still had very little equilibrium and my eyesight was badly effected. I had a hard time focussing on the "real", but at the same time I had a very real connection with what I can only describe as "another plane". For all purposes, I was seeing "ghosts" of some sort. I was not alone for at least a week after I first drank the tea - and for several days I went so far as to carry on entire conversations with the spirits who became my companions. I learned a lot during this time about myself and my world, but like I said it was scary. I didn't know if it would ever stop. I was having a hard time connecting my eyes with what was "real" because I was basically, effectively, inhabiting two worlds. Eventually all this settled down. I mostly stopped seeing these "spirits", although even now I'm aware of their presence... BUT since that experience, I've discovered that I "flashback" to that plane on occasion. Particularly in deep meditation, or if I eat mushrooms. I've grown more comfortable knowing this (it really freaked me out the first time!) and settled into new patterns/policies. Now, I can much better control my behavior in the situation, and will usually retreat to a private place to have a communion of sorts.

Now after writing all this I don't remember exactly what I was supposed to accomplish. I guess I was just wondering if any of you have had similar experiences, or feedback on this experience. I want to make it clear that I am, in NO WAY, recommending that anyone else try datura. It is POWERFUL medicine, and can change your life completely. Also, I'm very tired right now as I post this, so let me know if I'm not making any sense at all.... :)

Bright blessings.

Samhain
06-09-2006, 08:20 PM
yeah your making sense, I would be interested in learning more about this tea, if you could post some info on it (old mother Samhain here states that anyone who does try it, tries it at their own risk!!)
for years Ive been trying to astral project, with very little success, I wouldn't try and do it with drugs, as I have a responsible job, so on one hand your experince sounds wonderful to me and on the other I would be thinking would I be able to go into work again?
If anyone has some exercises that we can try, involuing substances or otherwise, post here!
good thread!
S

hummblebee
06-09-2006, 09:59 PM
Let's see... the greatest place go get the low-down on datura would be http://www.erowid.org/plants/datura/datura.shtml - the vaults of Erowid. Ero'wid's a great place to look around for substance info... the "mind and spirit" section is really good also.

Like I said, I don't really necessarily recommend datura to ANYBODY. From what I've seen and what I experienced, it is a VERY unpredictible substance. When I had this experience, I was in a place in my life where I could have just stayed where I was, responsibility-free, if I wanted to for as long as was necessary. And also like I said, I wasin the company of a man who I would not hesitate to say is one of the greatest people on the planet to aid on such a journey. He wasn't "babysitting" me per se, but I honestly don't know how I would have made it if not for his presence.

I'll write more on the subject later - I have some things to get done today! :)