Pothead

[GameGenie]

I joined this forum in search for people who realize how destructive marijuana can be. I feel like I could use a bit of support, because so many people take the drug lightly. Those are the same people who get high, and don't want to change their ways.

I fucked up my first college experience, and have been blessed with a second chance. Marijuana indirectly effects every bit of your life, if you choose to use. Most of us can agree that when things seem too good to be true, they usually are. Marijuana, in my opinion, is no exception. After having gotten high nearly everyday for 5 years, I can't help but ask myself how much different things would be... I made an early decision in life not to do drugs, but marijuana seemed so innocent. The most genius of traps are those you don't know you're locked into. I am finally freeing myself. Losing control of your life is far easier than gaining back control. Faith however will always find a way.

I am posting this here, because I joined this forums in search of people like me. I consider myself much wiser than my age would have you believe. I am just thankful that I have the ability to learn from my mistakes, as so many of us do not.

[lalalamort]

i agree but not many here will

[Night_Owl49]

every day for 5 years? fuck man, you just got carried away.

[GameGenie]

Obviously I was exaggerating a bit, in order to grasp a few people's attention. It's far too easy to develop a habit of using marijuana. I was planning on selling my vaporizer, taking a trip into the woods (NW USA). I figured I will go camping/hiking with a few great books and clear my head. I have lived on the east coast all of my life, and on Tuesday (dawn) I will be taking off.

After I failed to pursue my premed degree, due to lack of motivation, I moved back home a year ago. I have been fairly successful during this "poker boom" online, and have managed enough money to buy a nice SUV and develop a nice savings account... I have a buddy in Colorado, and to say the least, he hasn't been too successful at college either. Hmmm he doesn't have the motivation to succeed in class... I wonder why.... He's working at a restaurant instead of going to college... Sounds like a mission if I've ever heard of one... Pot is a dead end for SO many people....

My plan? I have packed up all of my things into my car. The last to go will be my desk and my computer... I am saying goodbye to those I love tomorrow afternoon. After waking up at 5:30AM (Tuesday) or so I will be driving as far as I can west until I hit Colorado... I'm gonna stay in Colorado for a month, and then my friend and I are hitting the road again...

Any suggestions of great places to see, while we clear our minds? The sky's the limit. I want to see the Grand Canyon, YellowStone, and possibly drive into Canada for some poker (since I'm not old enough to play in the states) :-)


I can't wait to have a clear head. Where should I travel? Colorado is home base for now :-D

[solar_eclipse]

Pot doesn't just affect you... at the risk of sounding like an afterschool special, it affects those around you. Like not getting your loved one a birthday gift because you need your $200 "medicene"

yeah, I'm a little bitter

Oh, and def. come to Canada - soooo beautiful here right now

[TresBizzare420]

Some people can handle marijuana while other people cannot. Any drug one uses is a tool. It's up to you to determine what your going to do.

[TopNotchStoner]

Marijuana can be used in a way that has no negative effects on your life. It all depends on the individual. Apparantly, it's not for you, and that's fine, but don't come in here and start demonizing it based on a bunch of generalizations, because that's not fair.

I use to be clinically depressed and I was prescribed medication. After taking the medication daily for a few months, as prescribed, no improvements were noticed. Then I abstained from taking the medication and started smoking weed everyday. The doctor started noticing quite an improvement in my mental health and assumed it was because of the medication, but then I told him that I hadn't been taking it for quite a while. Then I told him that I had been smoking a lot of weed and he said that it is a good probability that the weed is what brought about my improved mental well-being. I have been smoking ever since then and have been completely happy.

Weed can help some people and will be detrimental to others. You just have to use it responsibly.

[Balloonatic]

like he said ^, it all depends on the individual.

i know people who get straight A's & have AP classes & good jobs who still smoke the shit out of that weed. i also know dropouts that smoke weed.

also, just like topnotchstoner, weed has really helped me. i too used to be clinically depressed & very high-strung. if i told anyone that i have met in the past 3 years that i used to be the most high strung person ever, they straight up wouldnt beleive me. i am much happier now.

[dd3stp233]

Sorry if this may sound harsh but don't blame a plant for your own lack of focus. I know it's possible to earn a degree and smoke everyday because I've done it. The difference is between knowing how to use it rather then abuse it. Putting blame on something other then your own short comings will not help you or anyone. It's your fault and nothings elses.

[zeppelin kid]

Marijuana can be used in a way that has no negative effects on your life. It all depends on the individual. Apparantly, it's not for you, and that's fine, but don't come in here and start demonizing it based on a bunch of generalizations, because that's not fair.

I use to be clinically depressed and I was prescribed medication. After taking the medication daily for a few months, as prescribed, no improvements were noticed. Then I abstained from taking the medication and started smoking weed everyday. The doctor started noticing quite an improvement in my mental health and assumed it was because of the medication, but then I told him that I hadn't been taking it for quite a while. Then I told him that I had been smoking a lot of weed and he said that it is a good probability that the weed is what brought about my improved mental well-being. I have been smoking ever since then and have been completely happy.

Weed can help some people and will be detrimental to others. You just have to use it responsibly.Your very right because when I was depressed it was because I hadn't been smoking pot for a while but when I started smoking again my depression went away and I started to feel myself again.

[fulmah]

Marijuana can be used in a way that has no negative effects on your life. It all depends on the individual. Apparantly, it's not for you, and that's fine, but don't come in here and start demonizing it based on a bunch of generalizations, because that's not fair.

I use to be clinically depressed and I was prescribed medication. After taking the medication daily for a few months, as prescribed, no improvements were noticed. Then I abstained from taking the medication and started smoking weed everyday. The doctor started noticing quite an improvement in my mental health and assumed it was because of the medication, but then I told him that I hadn't been taking it for quite a while. Then I told him that I had been smoking a lot of weed and he said that it is a good probability that the weed is what brought about my improved mental well-being. I have been smoking ever since then and have been completely happy.

Weed can help some people and will be detrimental to others. You just have to use it responsibly.You may be able to get your degree, or get good grades, or hold a job, or whatever; some (if not most) people can do all those things and still get high. Do their chances go up or go down the more they smoke, though? I mean, come on… this is rocket science…

Oh, and any therapist who would recommend smoking pot in lieu of taking an antidepressant is either incredibly naive, or wants you to stay depressed. You should sue him for malpractice… not only would you win, but you’d be doing his other patients a favor. There’s a reason that you think it makes you feel better, and it’s not a good thing.

That said, I’m not against using it. I just don’t have any illusions.

[TopNotchStoner]

You may be able to get your degree, or get good grades, or hold a job, or whatever; some (if not most) people can do all those things and still get high. Do their chances go up or go down the more they smoke, though? I mean, come on… this is rocket science…

Oh, and any therapist who would recommend smoking pot in lieu of taking an antidepressant is either incredibly naive, or wants you to stay depressed. You should sue him for malpractice… not only would you win, but you’d be doing his other patients a favor. There’s a reason that you think it makes you feel better, and it’s not a good thing.

That said, I’m not against using it. I just don’t have any illusions.
I never said he recommended it. He just said that it obviously helped my situation moreso than the prescriptions I recieved.

You ask if good grades and other stuff can be improved by responsible marijuana smoking. Before I started smoking, I was failing EVERY class in high school, even P.E. Then in my second year of 10th grade I started smoking two fatass joints by myself before class everyday, and I ended up getting straight A's and B's. I have come to realize that weed helps a great deal to deal with my ADHD.

[Earth-Bound Misfit]

That said, I’m not against using it. I just don’t have any illusions.what the fuck is that supposed to mean?

i think you are just mad because you fucked up and need something to blame it on.

[fulmah]

You ask if good grades and other stuff can be improved by responsible marijuana smoking. Before I started smoking, I was failing EVERY class in high school, even P.E. Then in my second year of 10th grade I started smoking two fatass joints by myself before class everyday, and I ended up getting straight A's and B's. I have come to realize that weed helps a great deal to deal with my ADHD.
ADHD is very different from depression. There's convoluted data concerning the effects of THC on people who have ADD. The majority of people get worse when they smoke, because TCH blocks dopamine from going into the dopamine receptors. That said, advocates like Claudia Jensen have testified before congress that it's a preferred method for treating ADD/ADHD. She has no scientific backing to support her position, though, and the studies being conducted on the issue are either inconclusive or still underway. One thing I do know, the FDA will never approve smoking weed... they would (and already have, in fact) approve a pill form of it. I know, because I'm working on a study for it as we speak.

What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

i think you are just mad because you fucked up and need something to blame it on.
That was supposed to mean that I smoke weed, and I know it lowers my sperm count, is full of carcinogens, drops my IQ by about 20 points, and gives me panic attacks if I do too much (in other words, it's BAD). I know it effects everyone differently, and some don't experience the same things that I do, but by and large most everyone would be better off the less they wanted to smoke, because eventually you become this:

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c132/fluffinella/spicoli.jpg

[dd3stp233]

That's not true, there have been some pretty hardcore intellectuals and artists that have potheads and are nothing like that. On where you go with it depends on where you started and where you want to go and what you are capable of in the first place.

[spooner]

ADHD is very different from depression. There's convoluted data concerning the effects of THC on people who have ADD. The majority of people get worse when they smoke, because TCH blocks dopamine from going into the dopamine receptors. That said, advocates like Claudia Jensen have testified before congress that it's a preferred method for treating ADD/ADHD. She has no scientific backing to support her position, though, and the studies being conducted on the issue are either inconclusive or still underway. One thing I do know, the FDA will never approve smoking weed... they would (and already have, in fact) approve a pill form of it. I know, because I'm working on a study for it as we speak.


That was supposed to mean that I smoke weed, and I know it lowers my sperm count, is full of carcinogens, drops my IQ by about 20 points, and gives me panic attacks if I do too much (in other words, it's BAD). I know it effects everyone differently, and some don't experience the same things that I do, but by and large most everyone would be better off the less they wanted to smoke, because eventually you become this:

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c132/fluffinella/spicoli.jpg

:rolleyes: Mad chemistry skills.

[snelio37]

by and large most everyone would be better off the less they wanted to smoke, because eventually you become this:

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c132/fluffinella/spicoli.jpg
what's the problem with that?
no one position is higher than the other in the grand scheme of things. doctor, lawyer, pizza guy, waiter. the waiter who works a shitty job but smokes weed is just as likely to be happy as the doctor who works a hard job and lacks weed. you might now have the highest social status, but thankfully one generally does not mind such things when you're stoned.

and what's wrong with being satisfied?

[Arkady]

That was supposed to mean that I smoke weed, and I know it lowers my sperm count, is full of carcinogens, drops my IQ by about 20 points, and gives me panic attacks if I do too much (in other words, it's BAD). I know it effects everyone differently, and some don't experience the same things that I do, but by and large most everyone would be better off the less they wanted to smoke, because eventually you become this:

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c132/fluffinella/spicoli.jpg


Exactly! Know your poison, accept it into your heart, move on with your life, but don't kid yourself- it's still a poison.

[fulmah]

:rolleyes: Mad chemistry skills.
:rolleyes: I was not referring to the normal interaction of THC with dopamine in a normal person’s brain. I was referring to an adult ADHD brain which functions differently, as confirmed by the latest QEEG, SPECT, and MRI data.

what's the problem with that?

no one position is higher than the other in the grand scheme of things. doctor, lawyer, pizza guy, waiter. the waiter who works a shitty job but smokes weed is just as likely to be happy as the doctor who works a hard job and lacks weed. you might now have the highest social status, but thankfully one generally does not mind such things when you're stoned.


and what's wrong with being satisfied?
Nothing’s wrong with that. Some people will certainly be content living a more modest lifestyle. I don’t know about you, but over the years I’ve known people who have sacrificed record deals, diploma’s, scholarships, doctorate’s, their significant other, basically their lifelong goals because they wanted to party. I don’t call that being satisfied. I call that tragic.

[PlaceboAddikt]

Better living through chemisty, not living through chemistry.

[spooner]

:rolleyes: I was not referring to the normal interaction of THC with dopamine in a normal person’s brain. I was referring to an adult ADHD brain which functions differently, as confirmed by the latest QEEG, SPECT, and MRI data.
As hypothesized by Rachel Wilson? Give me an academic, peer-reviewed citation. Please.

Because every google article I could find that theory on had nine metric tons of bullshit included with it.:rolleyes:

[rob1134]

everything in moderation. i made a promise to myself... once a week during summer.. and no more than once every 2 weeks once school starts up again. does that mean i NEED to smoke every week?? hell no, those are just my maximums. and yea, ive noticed it slightly effects my short term memory but thats all. just dont overdo it, and it can be a blessing and not a curse.

[Peter Popper]

there is smoking weed everday and there is 'smoking weed everyday'.
some people smoke a little bit to relax and thats it. Some people smoke until they cant walk properly. thats the differnce.
if i smoke weed insanely heavily once or twice a day for 2 weeks i start to get weird, like swariing iv dreamt so many things before they happen. iv done things before the first time iv done them kinda thing. i saw down to the particles of paper, and touching paper feels like its a liquid or somthing.

so you see the people who say theve smoked right through college and passed are probably smoking much smaller amounts, whereas...
shit i dont know...

[fulmah]

As hypothesized by Rachel Wilson? Give me an academic, peer-reviewed citation. Please.

Because every google article I could find that theory on had nine metric tons of bullshit included with it.:rolleyes:What is it you want? Peer reviewed articles on how an ADHD brain is different, or articles on how marijuana effects the brain of an ADD/ADHD adult? There's none of the latter (or nothing definitive that I know of), which I'll readily admit. I wasn't basing anything on Rachel Wilson's research, although her findings are in line with who I was using, a more hardlined and far more biased individual, John Anderson. I know he's a large stone in that nine metric tons of bullshit, but I don't really care. It makes for an entertaining debate on a rather idiotic topic such as whether smoking weed is great thing to do to cure ADHD. If you can find peer reviewed, scholastic articles that state THC doesn't affect an ADHD brain the way he says, I'd love to see it. You'll have to connect the dots yourself, but some sources:

Zametkin, A.J., Nordahl, T.E., Gross, M, King, A.C. Semple, W.E., Rumsey, J, Hamburger, S, Cohen, R.M. (1990): Cerebral Glucose Metabolism in Adults with Hyperactivity of Childhood Onset". The New England Journal of Medicine. 323: 1361-1366.

Bowden, C.L., Deutsch,C.K., Swanson,J.M.,(1988): Plasma dopamine-beta hydroxylase and platelet monoamine oxidase in attention deficit disorder and conduct disorder. Journal of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent PVchiat 27, 171-174.

Gatley SJ, Lan R, Volkow ND, Pappas N, King P, Wong CT, Gifford AN, Pyatt B, Dewey SL, Makriyannis A (1998) Imaging the brain marijuana receptor: development of a radioligand that binds to cannabinoid CB1 receptors in vivo. J Neurochem 70: 417-423.

Gessa GL, Melis M, Muntoni AL, Diana M (1998) Cannabinoids activate mesolimbic dopamine neurons by an action on cannabinoid CB1 receptors. Eur J Pharmacol 341: 39-44.

[cutelildeadbear]

I'm not exactly sure why this was originally posted here, but I suppose it did take on a mental health aspect.

I'm pretty sure we have all agreed here though, that all drugs affect all people differently.

Like many others here I happen to know some very intelligent people who smoke on a regular basis who are actually doing quite well for themselves: graduating cum laude, and working on Wallstreet and very happy with life, now going to grad school. I know others who have managed to get through college and smoke their brains out, (which actually makes me jealous because I struggle sometimes and I don't smoke much at all) and who are lazy, but not necessarily dumb either. And I know people who don't smoke pot who never went to college and want to be a pizza man for life and are quite content with this. Then there are people who I know who have let it ruin their life. Though, I'm not so sure they were on the right path to begin with. It has caused them to make poor choices, such as buying weed before paying rent, stealing driving around high and getting pulled over, etc.

LOL I guess I don't have a point, at least not one that hasn't been made already. I'm just really opinionated and like to put in my 2 cents. Hehehe.

I guess from the mental health aspect though, knowing that I do have a mental illness I am extremely careful what kinds of drugs I will experiment with and which ones I won't touch.