Power of suggestion or premonition?

[Samhain]

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when my mum was little, she had a dream that she went to a resturant up a hill, with her family and someone got murdered there.
a little while later they visited, for the first time, a resturant up a hill just like the one in her dream, a few weeks later there was a murder there
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[seamonster66]

I've never had a real premonition that concrete before. I could see that making a person afraid to fall asleep!

[Samhain]

I've never had a real premonition that concrete before. I could see that making a person afraid to fall asleep!
she also dreamt that the next door neighbour was pregnant before she was old enough to know what the word ment and was right
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[seamonster66]

I've heard that these things can be inherited, for instance my mom is very weird, as was her mom. Do you ever have events like this?

[Samhain]

I've heard that these things can be inherited, for instance my mom is very weird, as was her mom. Do you ever have events like this?
i have to be very careful what i say, cause sometimes it happens, like a girl at work had tooth ache and was due to go camping over the weekend, I told her that she needed to see the dentist before she went cause she didn't want to get an absess while she was out there.
well call it a coincindence but she came back saying that she couldn't get me out of her mind when she went camping because that was exactly what happened, her cheek, swelled up and she brought pics to show us how bad
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[seamonster66]

Do you think the power of suggestion caused that to happen..maybe a topic for a new thread. I always wonder about that, for instance people with cancer live longer if they think they can etc.

[Samhain]

Do you think the power of suggestion caused that to happen..maybe a topic for a new thread. I always wonder about that, for instance people with cancer live longer if they think they can etc.
i think its more of a case that it was goingto happen and the energy was in my subconcious, i taped into it and gave her a warning, although it may be me not wanting to think i gave her an absess!
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[hippychickmommy]

I know this is going to sound crazy, but ever since I was a little girl, I've had many dreams which in turn happened almost exactly like I had dreamt. My mother and my grandmother seem to have this same "gift" as well, if you want to call it that.

My husband thinks it's simply a coincidence, but I think within the past year he has become a little freaked out because I'll say a dream I had and it will be right on the money. It makes him uneasy, and he doesn't like talking about it that much. :p

I would never claim to be psychic at all, I can't predict every little thing that will happen, but I do tend to have premonitions quite a bit. Why, I have no idea. But at times, it's scarey to me, like, I don't want to "see" these things. If that makes any sense. It just freaks me out sometimes.

[Samhain]

Like seamonster, I would suggest that you explore your psychic abilities further, there are many different avenues that you can explore and develope, that if you don't find one that suits straight away you could try another
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I know this is going to sound crazy, but ever since I was a little girl, I've had many dreams which in turn happened almost exactly like I had dreamt. My mother and my grandmother seem to have this same "gift" as well, if you want to call it that.

My husband thinks it's simply a coincidence, but I think within the past year he has become a little freaked out because I'll say a dream I had and it will be right on the money. It makes him uneasy, and he doesn't like talking about it that much. :p

I would never claim to be psychic at all, I can't predict every little thing that will happen, but I do tend to have premonitions quite a bit. Why, I have no idea. But at times, it's scarey to me, like, I don't want to "see" these things. If that makes any sense. It just freaks me out sometimes.

[fritz]

I had a dream in my old basement apartment (house, 3 apartments) that satan, or a demon or something was in the walls, back by the electrical breakers. Most frightening sounds emanating from back there..Saw myself waking up, terrified, screaming. Then I saw my own feet running up the lawn...
I woke up screaming WE HAVE TO GET OUT OF HERE!
A short time later..a few days, or a week..It was about three am, I went for a snack in the kitchen cabinet. Fucking german cockroach came scuttling out...Feelers going rapidly. We bombed, shook, & bagged everything. We were out in four days flat. That was enough for me.
I was on a job down in a nearby state. My mother had called the management. It was about two weeks after we'd moved out. She told me she saw my upstairs neighbor out on the roof with her baby on the evening news.
Turned out the place went up in a costly electrical fire that had started in the basement walls. Fortunately, nobody got hurt. What if we'd have been living down there?
Though it definetly freaked me out, I chalk it up to strong instincts. My landlord was a scumbag. Cheap as hell. Wasn't much of a surprise.
We also found out that the guy living above us was bringing home stuff from peoples garbage, furniture...That was where the damned roaches had come from. At least we got away clean.
I know this is going to sound crazy, but ever since I was a little girl, I've had many dreams which in turn happened almost exactly like I had dreamt. My mother and my grandmother seem to have this same "gift" as well, if you want to call it that.That's pretty wild..My aunt and I have had this same exact discussion. Somewhere, I think possibly native american, someone mentioned the term 'stone dreams'. I'm not sure if that is correct. I honestly don't know much about it.
I'll admit upfront, & it's in my profile.. I'm an atheist. Hope that doesn't get me outed. At the same time I feel very connected with nature, & my instincts have saved my ass more than once, so I find this stuff fascinating.
Ever had the hair on the back of your neck stand up? If that ever happens to you I suggest you leave wherever you are, quickly.

[fritz]

hippychickmommy, you mentioned gift, if you want to call it that.. Ever feel stifled, because it scares people? Also, I've had things happen that seemed to involve irrelevant stuff. Then things like death..Or the fire. Had a dream I was in an underground bunker once. Saw the damned thing on the news a week or so later. Got a sinking feeling in my stomach. Little girl got killed. My mother had met her, I had not. I still don't know what to make of that one. I have two witnesses. It was a vivid dream. They are always like that. Almost tangible. Nothing much good comes that way for me...You? I'm rambling. This shit would get me booted from the atheist club, (figure of speech)but I don't care. :D Makes rational sense to try to figure it out, right? Besides, I always end up with witchy friends. ;)

[stinkfoot]

On three seperate occasions- twice 20 years ago and once ten years ago- I picked up the telephone intending to give someone a call only to find the line apparently dead (no dial tone)... sensing someone on the other end would say "hello" and indeed... the person I was going to call was on the other end having just finished dialing my number.

[nimh]

i often have premonitions

i've thought about honing that part of myself, but there's so much else going on, i just trust my gut. listen to my intuitions, etc i dont really talk about it much to pple. i've become more interested in the natural healing arts in the past few years. i always use my intuition with that.

[Samhain]

the gut feeling everyone is saying they are having, I believe was as naturel to our ancestors as every other sense.
they would probably think ohhhh i'm getting a feeling I can trust this person or i'm getting THAT feeling time to get out.
its only now that we're taught to be rational and ignore it, fortunatly everyone on this thread takes notice.
a good starting point is to take notice of where in the body is the feeling centred, because it will always be some where

I'll admit upfront, & it's in my profile.. I'm an atheist. Hope that doesn't get me outed.
no, don't be silly, this is a welcoming community everyone is welcome and your house fire story sent shivers up my spine BTW!
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[fritz]

I don't often discuss that. Makes me sound like a freak.
Between that, the political climate in America, the very bloody, very real history of organized religion...I decided to pursue my disbelief in god years ago.

Also, there are way too many people looking to make a buck off of stories like that. Bullshit psychics, mediums, & all that. I certainly can't prove one way or the other if any of that shit is ever real. I can stop it from touching my wallet.

My experiences included. I don't want nor have to prove them. It was good to have witnesses in my personal life, feeling validated is important.

I'm grateful to religion for one thing only. Great horror novels! Movies..Escapism at it's finest. Nothing makes your extremely stressful day seem more mundane than a grizzly looking monster jumpin' out at ya! :D

[Samhain]

I don't often discuss that. Makes me sound like a freak.
Between that, the political climate in America, the very bloody, very real history of organized religion...I decided to pursue my disbelief in god years ago.

Also, there are way too many people looking to make a buck off of stories like that. Bullshit psychics, mediums, & all that. I certainly can't prove one way or the other if any of that shit is ever real. I can stop it from touching my wallet.

My experiences included. I don't want nor have to prove them. It was good to have witnesses in my personal life, feeling validated is important.

I'm grateful to religion for one thing only. Great horror novels! Movies..Escapism at it's finest. Nothing makes your extremely stressful day seem more mundane than a grizzly looking monster jumpin' out at ya! :D
I don't think you need to prove it one way or another, but if you take notice of it, you'll get to learn more about it and thus be able to pick it up more often and act upon it
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[fritz]

Good point. That's part of why I enjoy discussions like this. Thanks. ;)

[Samhain]

Good point. That's part of why I enjoy discussions like this. Thanks. ;)
and no one will think your a freak! BTW if you wanted to start a post on here about what being an athiest means to you I for one would be very interested!
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[fritz]

http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/embarassed.gif It's just a personal choice for me.
This is a cool thread. Hope I didn't take it too far off track.
*slinksawayquietly*

[Samhain]

http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/embarassed.gif It's just a personal choice for me.
This is a cool thread. Hope I didn't take it too far off track.
*slinksawayquietly*
please don't worry, everything you have written on here is fine, also i love your door knocker!
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[AshtonsMom]

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when my mum was little, she had a dream that she went to a resturant up a hill, with her family and someone got murdered there.
a little while later they visited, for the first time, a resturant up a hill just like the one in her dream, a few weeks later there was a murder there
Sthat would be more of a premonition type wouldn't it? I believe in stuff like that, seriously. I had a dream similar to something like that but thankfully it didn't involve a murder.

[Samhain]

that would be more of a premonition type wouldn't it? I believe in stuff like that, seriously. I had a dream similar to something like that but thankfully it didn't involve a murder.
Oh do share!
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[daisymae]

OK..Last night I dreamed that Ron Jeremy was diagnosed with prostate cancer and was going in for surgery to have it removed (his prostate)....anyway he asked the doctor to let him die on the table....

I don't even watch porn, and have never seen any of this guy's porn...so this is an out-of-the-blue type dream....

If it ever happens, you read it here first....:D

[warmhandedcanadian]

Yeah and I dreamed that I killed my brother's ex girlfriend. WE hid the body at the lake near the dock.... this dream would continue night after night .... so much that I felt guilty and thought about that spot at the lake often. I even worried about when the snow melted that her body would be discovered.

Recently I had a dream about my husband's grandmother (its in DREAMS) we were sitting at that very same place at the lake but having a campfire.... I was poking at it with a stick and all of a sudden she (grandma) jumped out of her wheelchair and into the water ... she waded through the water very quickly and away from me. Grandma passed away in 2001 and she was very special to both of us.

Same spot. Different dreams.

[seamonster66]

wow, is there something that stands out about that spot?

I have had dreams where i killed someone and regretted it, panicking about where to hide the body etc. Then I wake up completely relieved, but i don't think its a premonition

[dilligaf]

all i can say is someone somewhere connected with me at this moment,,, has a sore shin area of the leg,,, lol,,,, like they just whacked it on something within the last few minutes mid calf,,, to the left side of the right leg... just dunno who it is,,,, but whatever it was sent me here,,,,:P

[Samhain]

Yeah and I dreamed that I killed my brother's ex girlfriend. WE hid the body at the lake near the dock.... this dream would continue night after night .... so much that I felt guilty and thought about that spot at the lake often. I even worried about when the snow melted that her body would be discovered.

Recently I had a dream about my husband's grandmother (its in DREAMS) we were sitting at that very same place at the lake but having a campfire.... I was poking at it with a stick and all of a sudden she (grandma) jumped out of her wheelchair and into the water ... she waded through the water very quickly and away from me. Grandma passed away in 2001 and she was very special to both of us.

Same spot. Different dreams.
Ok this is more symbolic to me, water in spirituality is emotions, so maybe the fear of being emotional and where that will take you.
the lake may also represent that you feel your husband has knoweldge or secrets, prodding the water with a stick, trying to uncover them and grandma, who you feel may know them diving in and taking them to the grave with her, do realise the dream does not say that he HAS got secrets, more addressing your fear that he could have, or feeling that there is a lot to him you still need to get to know. as for the brothers girlfriend, this is the conceeling of guilt and the fear it may surface

all i can say is someone somewhere connected with me at this moment,,, has a sore shin area of the leg,,, lol,,,, like they just whacked it on something within the last few minutes mid calf,,, to the left side of the right leg... just dunno who it is,,,, but whatever it was sent me here,,,,:P

and what did you feel you needed to do once you got here? :rolleyes:
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[dilligaf]

type it of course...:P

nah seriously ,,, had to send it on away.... with some healing energy n a bit of luv....

[Samhain]

type it of course...:P

nah seriously ,,, had to send it on away.... with some healing energy n a bit of luv....
maybe you did that before the person even realised they had a pain
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[warmhandedcanadian]

Ok this is more symbolic to me, water in spirituality is emotions, so maybe the fear of being emotional and where that will take you.
the lake may also represent that you feel your husband has knoweldge or secrets, prodding the water with a stick, trying to uncover them and grandma, who you feel may know them diving in and taking them to the grave with her, do realise the dream does not say that he HAS got secrets, more addressing your fear that he could have, or feeling that there is a lot to him you still need to get to know. as for the brothers girlfriend, this is the conceeling of guilt and the fear it may surface :rolleyes:
S I was actually prodding the fire with the stick before grandma jumped into the lake.... yeah actually I feel like he is telling my secrets although not accurately causing me alot of distress in the ways that I feel judged or unfairly treated.

wow, is there something that stands out about that spot?

Yeah, that is "the spot" where my kids and I sit, and play and where I used to sit with the neighbor Shirley until she suddenly passed away. In the fall we said goodbye, and in the spring she was gone... very surprising since we thought we'd see her again. It's kind of where we put all the seaweed and stuff so I think that's why I thought I could hide a body under it, but it turned out a little closer to the dock in my dream. More in a higher traffic area.

We also wanted to buy her cabin. :H

[AshtonsMom]

Oh do share!
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lol..if you insist. One night I had a dream that a me and a friend were sitting outside on the back porch of the house I used to live in. We looked up at the sky, and he pointed at a shooting star and said: "That one's for me". Two weeks later he was dead...Not sure if that dream was a warning about it or not; however, I feel that it was...

[Samhain]

lol..if you insist. One night I had a dream that a me and a friend were sitting outside on the back porch of the house I used to live in. We looked up at the sky, and he pointed at a shooting star and said: "That one's for me". Two weeks later he was dead...Not sure if that dream was a warning about it or not; however, I feel that it was...
the idea of a shooting stars sounds quite comforting, like he's gone to a better place
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[Wond'ringAloud]

My mam was ill and I dreamt she'd died, but we always think parents are immortal. I remember at the time I had this terrible toothache, and nothing I tried would get rid of it. It was Sunday, and I was cooking when I was told mam had passed on, and that was the moment my tooth stopped aching.

Shortly after her death I woke up and she was standing at the bottom of my bed, then turned, opened the door and walked out. So I know the mind can play tricks, you know the in between sleep and being really awake time, but that was so real.
We hadn't thought she was so ill that she would die, but since then I haven't taken anything for granted.

[Samhain]

My mam was ill and I dreamt she'd died, but we always think parents are immortal. I remember at the time I had this terrible toothache, and nothing I tried would get rid of it. It was Sunday, and I was cooking when I was told mam had passed on, and that was the moment my tooth stopped aching.

Shortly after her death I woke up and she was standing at the bottom of my bed, then turned, opened the door and walked out. So I know the mind can play tricks, you know the in between sleep and being really awake time, but that was so real.
We hadn't thought she was so ill that she would die, but since then I haven't taken anything for granted.
I don't want to try and tell you what you saw, but I am sure the reason for seeing things like this is that the person or spirit is saying 'I am ready to move on now don't worry'
the idea of her walking through the door is very symbolic, did the incident give you any peace of mind after the intial shock?
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[Wond'ringAloud]

Well I was zombiefied for ages after she died, used to cry myself to sleep, and there was other stuff going on, but my mother was a huge believer in life after death. She always said there were far worse things than death, and I've thought about it over the years and I honestly believe that she knew she was going to die. Some of the things she did, it was as if she were 'tying up' loose ends, preparing...as for seeing her there, well it was strange, but she used to say that the dead wouldn't harm us, it's the living we have to be careful of...a lot of people are frightened of death. Reckon it was the way both of us said goodbye. Therein lies another tale of a goodbye, but I'll save that for a later time.

[Samhain]

Well I was zombiefied for ages after she died, used to cry myself to sleep, and there was other stuff going on, but my mother was a huge believer in life after death. She always said there were far worse things than death, and I've thought about it over the years and I honestly believe that she knew she was going to die. Some of the things she did, it was as if she were 'tying up' loose ends, preparing...as for seeing her there, well it was strange, but she used to say that the dead wouldn't harm us, it's the living we have to be careful of...a lot of people are frightened of death. Reckon it was the way both of us said goodbye. Therein lies another tale of a goodbye, but I'll save that for a later time.
yes it does seem with you seeing her that she was comfirming a lot of the beliefs she spoke about in life
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[hippychickmommy]

hippychickmommy, you mentioned gift, if you want to call it that.. Ever feel stifled, because it scares people? Also, I've had things happen that seemed to involve irrelevant stuff. Then things like death..Or the fire. Had a dream I was in an underground bunker once. Saw the damned thing on the news a week or so later. Got a sinking feeling in my stomach. Little girl got killed. My mother had met her, I had not. I still don't know what to make of that one. I have two witnesses. It was a vivid dream. They are always like that. Almost tangible. Nothing much good comes that way for me...You? I'm rambling. This shit would get me booted from the atheist club, (figure of speech)but I don't care. :D Makes rational sense to try to figure it out, right? Besides, I always end up with witchy friends. ;)I think it does tend to scare people at times, but more often than that, I think they tend to have a close-minded view on the subject and simply dismiss it, don't believe it could be true. That bothers me more than anything else!

About a month before the 2004 tsunami in Asia, I kept having dreams of massive tidal waves, flooding, panic and things being completely wiped out. It scared me, I couldn't understand why I kept dreaming it. It scared me even more when the tsunami happened because it seemed to be yet another eerily acccurate dream.

I seem to have many dreams about Mother Nature's destructive forces. Fires, tornados, floods, tidal waves...and then they happen not long after.

But then I have many dreams about trifle details. Like one night I dreamt that my younger son woke up crying and had thrown up in his crib. Well that very next night, that's exactly what happened. And he had had no signs of illness prior to that.

Or the time when I dreamt that there was a huge spider in my kitchen sink. I told my husband about it the next day and he was really wigged out, because on his way home from work he had stopped at the store, and as a gag, purchased a large black spider in which he planted in my sink, yet I hadn't been in the kitchen to see it yet. However, I already knew it was going to happen, yet I didn't. Does that make any sense?

Or really silly things, like one night I dreamt the words Martha Stewart, and the very next afternoon, I got a flyer in the mail with Martha Stewart crap, her name plastered all over the front on the paper. Weird.

[fritz]

Yeah, it does make sense. That all makes sense. Long before I ever tried a joint I had a dream that my brother actually had one on him. Turned out he did. Which wasn't the norm at that point in our young lives. Odd thing, that.

I couldn't figure out this one horrible dream. I was seeing, or I was this horse...We were starving, cold, & very lonely. It was horrible.
I have nothing to do with any horses...?
Saw that some folks went up on charges in a rural area about an hour or so away for starving, & neglecting their horses..To death.
It still makes me feel nauseous. I felt it. I felt the yearning, the overwhelming sadness, hunger, fear.
It's like a window that you can only get a spotty view through. What gives me the creeps though is the ones with that sense of palpability, like I'm there.

[Samhain]

some people may feel that you are very honoured, those horses choose you to connect too, you to tell their story to anyone who will listen and not judge.
it shows that you are hugely sensitive and that the spirit world trusts you
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Yeah, it does make sense. That all makes sense. Long before I ever tried a joint I had a dream that my brother actually had one on him. Turned out he did. Which wasn't the norm at that point in our young lives. Odd thing, that.

I couldn't figure out this one horrible dream. I was seeing, or I was this horse...We were starving, cold, & very lonely. It was horrible.
I have nothing to do with any horses...?
Saw that some folks went up on charges in a rural area about an hour or so away for starving, & neglecting their horses..To death.
It still makes me feel nauseous. I felt it. I felt the yearning, the overwhelming sadness, hunger, fear.
It's like a window that you can only get a spotty view through. What gives me the creeps though is the ones with that sense of palpability, like I'm there.

[fritz]

Well, that's one way to look at it, Samhain...Thank you for that.

It's just that I remember feeling as if i 'woke up' there. Disoriented. I had no idea where we were. I had no way to help them. I desperately wanted to save them.
At those times, I also can't be sure that they're real without something to confirm it...So, by the time I go...Oh, so that's what that was!..It's already too late. :(
It's like the story I wrote about that little girl that got killed, or hippychickmommy's tsunami story. It all just leaves you with such a sense of futility. Completely helpless to do anything but watch.

[hippychickmommy]

Coincedence.
Blah, blah, blah. :rolleyes: :p