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Samhain
05-10-2006, 08:54 PM
The scared spiral is an ancient pagan concept, without the spiral of life there can be no spiral of death, without the spiral of death there can be no spiral of rebirth.
we dance through the spiral of joy, then go through the spiral of pain, we go through a spiral of personnal growth, then go through a spiral of rest.
the ancient pagan religions have always honored nature at their centre, never than in nature is the holy spiral more apparant. the seasons follow one another as sure as night follows day.
the leaves fall from the trees, compost the ground, and feed the plants, the plants grow and die or are eaten by animals who will sooner or later die and compost and feed the earth.
it is only the human, who wants to bring clean perfection to everything that damages the spiral, humans hate death, we cover it up where ever possible, we hide it from our children, we fear and dread it. Perversely sex the life giving gift from the universe, is also seen by many people, to be disgusting, as a result STD's and youth pregnancys are on the increase, because we are unable to be open and honest about sex.
Pagans study nature they see the spiral and the balance that it gives us, they see the life it can give us if we learn to treat her with respect, because of this and the patterns of nature, many pagans believe in the concept of reincarnation, we die, we live the sacred spiral again, even those that do not believe in the reincarnation of actual life, believe that we die we norish the ground and our life force in this way becomes the earth, then a tree....
So remember what ever you do in life the spiral will always turn

Let the spiral turn and turn
wind will blow and fire will burn
water flows apon the earth
As we dance from death to birth
(poem by starhawk, taken from the book
'the pagan book of living and dying, by the same author)

I think on this thread it would be useful to visit what my vision of the sacred spiral is
I'm aiming at a forum, where we can discuss spirituality in its broadest sense, where like minded people can come together and chill.
basically you can bring anything to this forum, if you can't think of anything spiritual, just hang around and gossip!
I don't like rules, rules are for a good wash on a washing machine, however a forum does have to have rules for people to be able to 'live together' on it, this is very apparent in the sacred spiral where I wish for people to live together with a sense of common respect and peace for each other
so please follow the forum rules of the hip forum at large, that includes basic respect for fellow posters, but you all already new that!
when someone posts a request for support, please, if you do post on that thread, words of support and encouragement, don't judge their situation, they are already in a situation where they feel upset enough to ask for help.
anyone that flames or abuses other forum members, I will delete their posts and/or threads, I do not expect to do this a lot, because A) most people will come in here with a sense of shared respect and B) I do believe in free speech where ever possible. still if you are concerned or upset about another members posts in here do pm me

thats the boring bit out of the way!
some ideas to get you going, if you can think of any others let me know and I will post them!

request support for yourself or friends that are going through a hard time
light candles to support people on here
tarot
discussion of religion and spirituality in general
blessings
gossip and chats

Blessings
S

Hacker
05-10-2006, 09:09 PM
Can we also discuss our favorite crayons?

Samhain
05-10-2006, 09:11 PM
Can we also discuss our favorite crayons?
if you like, although posters of the same name are starting to post more and more so you'd have to explain it not to cause an upset!
S

Hacker
05-10-2006, 09:25 PM
My favorite color is "Bird_Migration" so I think we'll be ok.

Samhain
05-10-2006, 09:28 PM
My favorite color is "Bird_Migration" so I think we'll be ok.
lol, i'm not even going to ask what shade that is
S

Hacker
05-10-2006, 09:34 PM
I was kidding anyway.

:p

NaykidApe
05-10-2006, 09:46 PM
Crayons are sort of like candles in that they're both made of wax, except that you can't write with candles and crayons wont stay lit (these and other fun facts can be found at Apeapedia.com

Hacker
05-10-2006, 09:47 PM
Crayons are sort of like candles in that they're both made of wax, except that you can't write with candles and crayons wont stay lit (these and other fun facts can be found at Apeapedia.com
That's what I call waxin' philosophical.

NaykidApe
05-10-2006, 09:52 PM
That's what I call waxin' philosophical.

People need to know these things.

nimh
05-10-2006, 09:53 PM
okay, that's one of the things your forum is for, right samhain?

i had dental surgery the other day. my mouth hurts. anyways, i was thinking about the spiritual reasons that we have illnesses. i think that things happen to us for reasons, whether to give us a learning opportunity or teach us a lesson, or because we've done something to draw that illness into our lives, or whatever. sometimes i think that i get sick because i need some downtime to nurture myself. i'm always so busy looking after everyone else that sometimes i forget to look after me.

oops, i meant to start a new thread, can someone fix that?

Hacker
05-10-2006, 10:03 PM
I gotchyer back!

:)

Hacker
05-10-2006, 10:04 PM
haha!!!

I already did!

Samhain
05-10-2006, 10:17 PM
I made this message from nimh into a new thread, Hacker (bless him!) had the same idea and beat me to it so i'm going to delete this duplicate thread as its all being discussed on the one hacker started- confused? I know i am
S

seamonster66
05-10-2006, 11:32 PM
nothing, well few things, make me happier than that electric company film of the crayon factory...since they probably didn't have electric company in the UK I'll sum it up as a film of crayons being made in a crayon factory, its pretty soothing

Samhain
05-10-2006, 11:35 PM
nothing, well few things, make me happier than that electric company film of the crayon factory...since they probably didn't have electric company in the UK I'll sum it up as a film of crayons being made in a crayon factory, its pretty soothing
I suppose you had to be there, your good on your history we didn't have electric in the uk until 1982 I think
S

seamonster66
05-10-2006, 11:37 PM
put on some beach boys and watch it and it would be narcotic...i guess

Samhain
05-10-2006, 11:38 PM
put on some beach boys and watch it and it would be narcotic...i guess
you've finally lost me, how much you been smoking at my party?
S

seamonster66
05-10-2006, 11:45 PM
smoking? etc. etc. ;)

AshtonsMom
05-12-2006, 01:43 AM
good luck with the forum...I didn't even realize you had done this until you told me...but it looks pretty decent so far. :D

Hacker
05-12-2006, 01:44 AM
good luck with the forum...I didn't even realize you had done this until you told me...but it looks pretty decent so far. :D
Ashton's mom has got it goin' on!

Hey there.

Nevermind me.

But welcome to the playhouse!

AshtonsMom
05-12-2006, 01:45 AM
Ashton's mom has got it goin' on!

Hey there.

Nevermind me.

But welcome to the playhouse!lol...:D

Samhain
05-12-2006, 01:51 AM
thanks Ashtonsmom, we're only been running 2 days though!!
hows life treating you?
S

AshtonsMom
05-12-2006, 01:57 AM
thanks Ashtonsmom, we're only been running 2 days though!!
hows life treating you?
SAll in all, pretty well. I have hit a severly rough spot that is taking its toll on my emotions, but I have been trying my best not to let it get me down.

Samhain
05-12-2006, 02:01 AM
All in all, pretty well. I have hit a severly rough spot that is taking its toll on my emotions, but I have been trying my best not to let it get me down.
well part of the reason i have started this forum is for people to ask for help and support, so do feel free to start a thread about it, if you would feel it would help- sorry about your rough spot, do pm me any time too :rolleyes:
S

AshtonsMom
05-12-2006, 02:04 AM
well part of the reason i have started this forum is for people to ask for help and support, so do feel free to start a thread about it, if you would feel it would help- sorry about your rough spot, do pm me any time too :rolleyes:
Swell thanks for all the support S. :D It means alot.

Hacker
05-12-2006, 02:07 AM
Hang in there!!!

Things will be alright.

And you know I am always around if you need someone to talk to also!


well thanks for all the support S. :D It means alot.

Samhain
05-12-2006, 02:09 AM
Hang in there!!!

Things will be alright.

And you know I am always around if you need someone to talk to also!
its likes mom the meat and we're the two slices of bread on each side, now shes really depressed!
:eek:
S

AshtonsMom
05-12-2006, 02:11 AM
its likes mom the meat and we're the two slices of bread on each side, now shes really depressed!
:eek:
Slmao...I actually needed a good laugh. ;)

Hacker
05-12-2006, 02:11 AM
its likes mom the meat and we're the two slices of bread on each side, now shes really depressed!
:eek:
S
:eek:

Sammy!!!! I am surprised at you!

haha!

(I got the mayo)

Hacker
05-12-2006, 02:12 AM
lmao...I actually needed a good laugh. ;)Now she's laughing at us!!!

AshtonsMom
05-12-2006, 02:12 AM
:eek:

Sammy!!!! I am surprised at you!

haha!

(I got the mayo)lmao...well you two should be lonely because the meat just ran away...:D

Hacker
05-12-2006, 02:18 AM
lmao...well you two should be lonely because the meat just ran away...:D
Awww... I can't blame you. haha, I hope you know that we were just being silly. We think you are great, and don't want to offend! Don't run away!

AshtonsMom
05-12-2006, 02:40 AM
Awww... I can't blame you. haha, I hope you know that we were just being silly. We think you are great, and don't want to offend! Don't run away!ha...I know that. you see, i was being silly too. :D

Samhain
05-12-2006, 02:41 AM
ha...I know that. you see, i was being silly too. :D
you did hear what she said though, we're going to have to play amongst ourselves the meats run off :X
S

Samhain
05-12-2006, 02:07 PM
The scared spiral is an ancient pagan concept, without the spiral of life there can be no spiral of death, without the spiral of death there can be no spiral of rebirth.
we dance through the spiral of joy, then go through the spiral of pain, we go through a spiral of personnal growth, then go through a spiral of rest.
the ancient pagan religions have always honored nature at their centre, never than in nature is the holy spiral more apparant. the seasons follow one another as sure as night follows day.
the leaves fall from the trees, compost the ground, and feed the plants, the plants grow and die or are eaten by animals who will sooner or later die and compost and feed the earth.
it is only the human, who wants to bring clean perfection to everything that damages the spiral, humans hate death, we cover it up where ever possible, we hide it from our children, we fear and dread it. Perversely sex the life giving gift from the universe, is also seen by many people, to be disgusting, as a result STD's and youth pregnancys are on the increase, because we are unable to be open and honest about sex.
Pagans study nature they see the spiral and the balance that it gives us, they see the life it can give us if we learn to treat her with respect, because of this and the patterns of nature, many pagans believe in the concept of reincarnation, we die, we live the sacred spiral again, even those that do not believe in the reincarnation of actual life, believe that we die we norish the ground and our life force in this way becomes the earth, then a tree....
So remember what ever you do in life the spiral will always turn

Let the spiral turn and turn
wind will blow and fire will burn
water flows apon the earth
As we dance from death to birth
(poem by starhawk, taken from the book
'the pagan book of living and dying, by the same author)


Blessings
S

Samhain
05-12-2006, 02:12 PM
I think on this thread it would be useful to visit what my vision of the sacred spiral is
I'm aiming at a forum, where we can discuss spirituality in its broadest sense, where like minded people can come together and chill.
basically you can bring anything to this forum, if you can't think of anything spiritual, just hang around and gossip!
I don't like rules, rules are for a good wash on a washing machine, however a forum does have to have rules for people to be able to 'live together' on it, this is very apparent in the scared spiral where I wish for people to live together with a sense of common respect and peace for each other
so please follow the forum rules of the hip forum at large, that includes basic respect for fellow posters, but you all already new that!
when someone posts a request for support, please, if you do post on that thread, words of support and encouragement, don't judge their situation, they are already in a situation where they feel upset enough to ask for help.
anyone that flames or abuses other forum members, I will delete their posts and/or threads, I do not expect to do this a lot, because A) most people will come in here with a sense of shared respect and B) I do believe in free speech where ever possible. still if you are concerned or upset about another members posts in here do pm me

thats the boring bit out of the way!
some ideas to get you going, if you can think of any others let me know and I will post them!

request support for yourself or friends that are going through a hard time
light candles to support people on here
tarot
discussion of religion and spirituality in general
blessings
gossip and chats

love S