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AoXoMoXoA420
04-23-2006, 07:43 AM
"You cannot perfect good, but you can perfect evil."
-Dracula
thoughts?
paulfreespirit
04-23-2006, 08:13 PM
jeeeeez i need a bite to eat .:eek: fangs anyway
pop_terror
04-23-2006, 09:45 PM
That's a quote from the real Dracula, right? Not the vampire?
I think just the opposite. You can't perfect evil, but good is already perfect.
You can try to be as evil as possible, but then you'll have to always be on the lookout for more evil things to do, and I think there is no end to how bad you can be, so you could never be perfectly evil. More evil than killing a dog is killing a baby is killing two babies is killing three babies is killing four babies etc.
mr.morrison
04-27-2006, 06:11 AM
well, he diddnt think he was evil. i did a report on him and he was a devout catholic! crazy stuff
themnax
04-28-2006, 04:13 PM
romantic silliness of simplisticness.
you can't BE anything
you can only do or not do
and however much you may try to do either bennifit or harm
more then the other
it is not possible to entirely avoid doing at least some
of both
even if only unintentionaly
but you CAN prioritise endevoring to avoid causing harm and suffering
and you do have a world with less of it floating arround
and thereby less of it to injure yourself
to gain by doing so
=^^=
.../\...
UFEZG
04-29-2006, 01:58 AM
That's a quote from the real Dracula, right? Not the vampire?
I think just the opposite. You can't perfect evil, but good is already perfect.
You can try to be as evil as possible, but then you'll have to always be on the lookout for more evil things to do, and I think there is no end to how bad you can be, so you could never be perfectly evil. More evil than killing a dog is killing a baby is killing two babies is killing three babies is killing four babies etc.
But who determines what is evil, anyway? Do we live in a world of epic battles between good guys (Like Road Runner) and bad guys (Wile E. Cyote)? I think not. Merely because someone with a halo tells you that what you do is the good and riotious path, that does not make it so. This is the real world. The good guys can be corrupt, and the "bad guys" are not the only ones who use deception to get ahead.
People tend to associate good with light, and evil with darkness. And also that the Light will overcome the darkness. But darkness and light are simply opposites. Niether one is stronger than the other. They just counter each other out. That's what I believe, at least.
Oh, and yeah, Count Dracula was an amazing person. Crazed, yes, but still amazing. From what I remember reading about his life, he was a pretty ruthless person. They just dug up his grave and it was empty, and BAM! Vampires were born.
fritz
04-29-2006, 02:09 AM
As said in different ways by others..
Evil is just as much a gray area as good. Perception changes everything. Killing a baby is bad. Killing a baby that's going to die in a worse way(disease) is good. Unless you're in a court of law, that is.
Jeffery Dahmer, bad dude..To some, misunderstood mentally ill guy. Nicolae Ceausescu, bad dude. To himself, & Elena..He's an angel. The movie Boondock Saints is a good enough example of what I mean.
TrippinBTM
04-29-2006, 04:04 AM
I think just the opposite. You can't perfect evil, but good is already perfect.
You can try to be as evil as possible, but then you'll have to always be on the lookout for more evil things to do, and I think there is no end to how bad you can be
I was thinking the same thing, man. But I also agree with UFEZG was saying, about opposites. opposites are equal but counter to each other, right? So perfect good will only cancel out perfect evil, not overcome it. Which leads me to wonder if good and evil really exist anyways. Animals certainly don't have issues with it; they have social codes, true, but I doubt they have moral qualms (the coyote just wanted a meal, man). But then, I'm pretty influenced by Taoism.
The whole issue really just confuses me, I never have a firm position on it. Depends on what book I read last, haha.
pop_terror
04-30-2006, 10:43 PM
I wasn't trying to say that I believe evil actually exists. I was just trying to explain in a way that incorporates the popular idea of evil, and to dissuade the notion that it is more real than goodness, instead of just saying "evil doesn't exist".
I do believe that everything that occurs is absolutely necessary, and when you can't see the most distant repercussions of any event it's kind of hard to just pin it down as evil. So much unforeseen good probably comes from evil events...
I don't know about opposites, though. We only experience so little of reality, who is to say that dark is necessarily the opposite of light? Maybe they're just different forms of the same thing.
To me what is good is simply being. So good dominates all. I mean, I would rather experience the Holocaust for eternity than absolutely nothing, so in that way it would be good. And after an eternal "evil" like that I think the pain would eventually be dulled, so that it wouldn't seem evil any more.
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