View Full Version : Jesus. The original hippie?
I0_Helter_Skelter_0I
07-10-2004, 04:52 PM
Think about it. The world at the time was dominated by the Roman Empire and Judaism was very strong at the time and location. Then Jesus came. He went againest both in some points. All he wanted was peace and what did he get for his beliefs. Crucifixion. Expand on this peoples
campbell34
07-10-2004, 05:19 PM
Jesus did not come to the earth to bring peace
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." -matt. 10:34
His main mission was to die, die for our sins.
West Point
07-10-2004, 09:49 PM
The fact that you rebel against global powers does not make you a hippie at all.
Epiphany
07-11-2004, 06:35 AM
Jesus did not come to the earth to bring peace
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." -matt. 10:34
His main mission was to die, die for our sins.
True, but his greatest message was that of love.... "Love your neighbor" is illustrated over and over again in the Bible.
Guitar_god_
07-11-2004, 10:29 AM
Even though I may not be a christian, I would like to have hung out with Jesus. He seems like he would be an awesome guy.
Lilyrayne
07-11-2004, 04:01 PM
I AM a Christian, and I know I'd get along with Jesus just fine... I know he'd have a similiar "love everyone" attitude like me!
Jaz Delorean
07-14-2004, 11:19 AM
Yeah i think he was the original hippie...I think even Skip said so somewhere, about what is a hippie? and Jesus was mentioned as the first one! that was on the old forums though...
He had a love your neighbour and your enemy as yourselves attitude that everyone should have, and he loved the world, whenever loads of people turned up he would go off in a boat or a lake, or climb up a mountain, he was the dude!
jaz
#include
07-15-2004, 02:15 AM
You're taking bits and parts of something. Jesus wasn't a hippy...obvious. He didn't believe in "free love" or drugs and whatnot.
Get with it people. It's just like saying he was a murderer because he has two eyes, and you know murderers with two eyes.
inbloom
07-16-2004, 07:36 AM
being a hippie isn't all about drugs and sleeping around with a whole bunch of different people.
the original 60's idea of free love, was before STD's came into the picture. talk to most "hippies" nowadays, and they probably wouldn't have the same attitude towards it, that they did back then.
the MAIN message of being a hippie, is to love everyone and everything regardless of who/what they are. which is what jesus preached the whole time he was alive. so, think about it.
forget about the sterotypical view of hippies, that came from the 60's. sure, those people were hippies, but taking acid and tripping out in the woods doesn't make you a hippie. anyone can do that.
Epiphany
07-16-2004, 07:51 AM
Jesus is, "The Hippie", because he is the only one who can truly say that he loves everyone. He stressed how it important it was for us to love each other, but in truth, being that he is Christ in the flesh, he is the only one who honestly has love for every body.
Lilyrayne
07-16-2004, 02:55 PM
Jesus was more like "The Ultimate Flower Child" rather than "The Ultimate Hippie"... the differences betweeen "Hippie" and "Flower Child" were brought up in my forum as they related to Christians, and it does make a lot more sense. Look up the definitions in a dictionary.
staples420
07-20-2004, 05:25 AM
Just because he loved everyone doesn't quite mean that he was a hippie. Yes he had some good ideals, but I mean he was still pretty judgemental. Anyone who condemns others for living their lives differently or having different beliefs isn't a hippie in my book.
Insomniac_Junkie
07-20-2004, 10:14 PM
Just because he loved everyone doesn't quite mean that he was a hippie. Yes he had some good ideals, but I mean he was still pretty judgemental. Anyone who condemns others for living their lives differently or having different beliefs isn't a hippie in my book.
well what did he condemn? The only thing that comes to mind is to reject satan and all of his work and even that has questionable (esspecially today, not 2k years ago) so I dunno.
staples420
07-21-2004, 06:09 AM
well what did he condemn? The only thing that comes to mind is to reject satan and all of his work and even that has questionable (esspecially today, not 2k years ago) so I dunno.
Hmm let's see.. :rolleyes: Ever heard of hell? Isn't that the place where all the 'non believers,' 'sinners,' and people who don't follow Jesus are supposed to spend an eternity? In my opinion he was a pretty intolerant guy.
campbell34
07-21-2004, 07:01 AM
-Yes that is an opinion. And you must remember that you have freedom of choice-free will. Jesus died on the cross to wash away everyone's sins and you have the choice to accept that free gift or reject it. But if you wanna talk about intolerent, how the people who reject Jesus' free gift.
Therefore, Hell is a choice and likewise so is heaven.
staples420
07-21-2004, 07:37 AM
Yes I agree that everyone has their freedom of choice, which is why I said that he was intolerant. Like you said, those who don't accept this "gift" are eternally punished. So if they really have the complete freedom you say, why are they being punished for choosing a different path?
And how are people who reject the "gift" intolerant??
I personally think it is all a bunch of bull shit, but everyone is entitled to their own opinions and beliefs. Sorry if I have offended you, that was not my intention.
Epiphany
07-21-2004, 10:55 AM
Just because he loved everyone doesn't quite mean that he was a hippie. Yes he had some good ideals, but I mean he was still pretty judgemental. Anyone who condemns others for living their lives differently or having different beliefs isn't a hippie in my book.
I hate to tell you that there is not one single person in this entire world who can say they are completely open to every single thing in the universe. Therefore, if that is what makes one a hippie, no one is a true hippie.
OUTCAST
07-22-2004, 11:45 PM
Just because he loved everyone doesn't quite mean that he was a hippie. Yes he had some good ideals, but I mean he was still pretty judgemental. Anyone who condemns others for living their lives differently or having different beliefs isn't a hippie in my book.
In essence, didn't you just judge him?
MikeE
07-23-2004, 03:21 AM
As a matter of chronology, if one is looking for the FIRST hippy, one should inspect the life of Chuang Tzu. (This is not a comment on the divinity of Jesus.)
staples420
07-23-2004, 04:47 PM
In essence, didn't you just judge him?
Yes but if you had continued to read and understand the rest of my posts maybe you would have better understood what point I was trying to make.
Everyone judges; it's a part of life that, unfortunately, no one can escape. However minor a judgement might be, everyone does it at some point or another. But once again, the point that I was trying to make was that Jesus condemed people based on his judgements of whether they are right or wrong. So if they don't follow him or live according to his ways they are punished. That intolerance was the point I was trying to make. Maybe I didn't word that first post well enough....
mynameiskc
07-23-2004, 04:57 PM
one of the things i prefer to do is try to read jesus' actions instead of the politicized words of his followers. sorry to all the literalists out there, but i don't think the writer's of the bible were infallible in their inspiration from god. a lot of the stuff i read about christ seems like a lot of hooey to me, but the man's intentions always seemed to come through. respect your fellow man, never forget you're a sinner, and show mercy. fight for the dignity of your brethren, forgive everything, and love god absolutely. how can i disagree with any of that? read between the lines written by people straining to maintain, however well-intentioned, the right to disseminate the brilliant words and concepts of a truly genius and gentle man.
Kaiser 4 Sunflowers
03-06-2007, 05:32 PM
True, but his greatest message was that of love.... "Love your neighbor" is illustrated over and over again in the Bible.
The greatest message was Love God with all your heart and soul, then love your neighbor.
Samhain
03-06-2007, 07:26 PM
one of the things i prefer to do is try to read jesus' actions instead of the politicized words of his followers. sorry to all the literalists out there, but i don't think the writer's of the bible were infallible in their inspiration from god. a lot of the stuff i read about christ seems like a lot of hooey to me, but the man's intentions always seemed to come through. respect your fellow man, never forget you're a sinner, and show mercy. fight for the dignity of your brethren, forgive everything, and love god absolutely. how can i disagree with any of that? read between the lines written by people straining to maintain, however well-intentioned, the right to disseminate the brilliant words and concepts of a truly genius and gentle man.
that is more or less word for word what my dad would say on the subject and I agree with both of you
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