Native American Animal Totems

[inbloom]

I saw no other forum where this would be more appropriate, so I figured I'd post it here. I'm not even sure what Animism is, does it kind of tie in with Native American Spirituality?

My question, as the title indicates, is about Animal Totems. A friend of mine really got me into them a while back, when he got in contact with his Wolf Medicine. He's been deeply connected to the wolf ever since, and I've always been eager to find my totem, but to no avail.

Lately, however, I've been getting alot of what I believe to be messages. Often, nearly every time now, when I go out into nature, I'm visited by the Crow. About three days ago, I was out at my favourite nature spot. Just as I was getting ready to leave, I was walking down through the valley, and two crows started circling over head, cawing, and flying near me. I felt entranced, and sat there watching them, until they flew out of sight.

Yesterday, while out at the same spot, I saw another crow. He flew over head, again cawing and flapping his wings, as they tend to do, and I once again was entranced. Later on, I was walking down town, and AGAIN a crow passed over my head, doing the same thing. Once again, I was entranced.

And just today, as I was out at the same nature spot, I saw FIVE crows. I was standing on the rocks, looking out over the valley, and in the distance I heard a caw. I looked behind me, to see a crow come flying in over the field, swoop past me, and glide over the valley, where he was joined by two more, and they flew through the valley together, cawing away, until they passed the bend, and were out of sight. Once again, I wasn't even able to look away for a second. About 10 minutes later, as I travelled over and down through the trees, two more passed over head together, and their caws just seemed so beautiful to me. I just love the sound.

My question to you, if there are any of you experienced in this...is this possibly a message that my totem is the crow? I've read alot of things that talk about how, when an animal chooses you, it will make itself known to you, and will often be an animal you see a lot in nature. The crow has definetly been that, to me, lately.

Since discovering all this, I feel very connected to the crow, and the sight and sound of them really soothes me. Makes me feel at peace. Could this be a sign that the crow is my, or one of my, animal totems? Any help is apprecaited. Thank you.

[teh-horace]

crows are cool
also, animism has to do with the fact (rather belief) that everything (and i do mean everything) has a spirit
hehe, i learned that at the beginning of my english class last semester
but back to the point
the way i'm lookin' at it
if you feel, like strongly and deeply, that the crow is your animal totem, then it probably is
i had a dream that a polar bear was my guardian that i was always holding on to for protection and just for the sake of givin' it a big ol' hug
someone said it was probably my animal totem
i'm not too sure
as i don't venture out into areas where polar bears come walking beside me to protect me from things :p
but who knows? :D

[white_raven]

I would say, unless you completely do not believe the crow is your totem (it doesn't resonate with you), it is probably your totem.

When I discovered my totem, I would see like ten deer every day for a few weeks. One buck even came out of the woods and walked up to me. And I was walking one day and this stray limb had fallen but looked odd so I was walking up to it and this deer leapt out from behind it and ran off.

Anyway, the crow symbolizes creation and spirituality, reminding us to "create and manifest the magic of life" (Ted Andrews). Does that message sound applicable to your life?

[inbloom]

Thank both of you, for your help and insights. I appreciate it. :)

White Raven, yeah, I've read a lot about how the Crow is supposed to symbolise connection to the "Great Spirit" and the Mystic and unknown. This definetly describes me to a T, as I've, for the longest time now, been into uncovering the unknown, and the things beyond every day reality.

Alot of what I've read on Crow really applies to my life. Especially how connection to her is supposed to help bring about change in your life, which is something I REALLY need right now. It also struck a chord with me, when I read that the Crow teaches us to see past our emotional pains, and find the path to forgiveness, acceptance, and understanding. Also something I need right now.

Another question I have is, how do you know for sure how long a totem should stay with you, or which ones stay for life? I would very much like Crow to be my life totem, but will it always be? Or is she maybe just giving me a message for my life, as it stands now? I'd really love to have a lfie companion in the Crow, but how do I know for sure? I realyl feel the Crow has been speaking to me lately, making itself known, and revealing itself to me all the time. Is there anyway to understand these things better, or is it all just feeling?

Thanks for your time.

[Echo the Small]

Mabye the crow just has a powerful message for you at the moment.
I was seeing bears alot for a while but bear isn't my totem, its medicine just resonated with me and my learning at the time.
I just finished my time with racoon medicine and will carry spider and bat medicine untill I overcome my fears and fully step into myself.
I haven't found my life totem animal yet, I know I have some learning to do first but look up the message of crow and if it is YOUR totem, you will know with all of your being.Otherwise you may just be carrying some powerful crow medicine that will help you get through something and show you things about yourself.
YOU will know if crow is just for a time or forever...
Trust your judgement.
Peace

[inbloom]

Thanks Echo!

I dunno, I really feel a strong connection to the Crow. Possibly it's just message, possibly not. I guess I'll just have to wait and see.

A couple sites I saw say how the time of year you were born, indicates your totem, in which case my birth totem would be the Brown Bear, and my totem would be the Mouse. I've never really felt any sort of strong connection to them though, like I've been feeling with the Crow. I honestly can't say I've felt a life long connection to any animal, as it hasn't been until recently that I started to get into this stuff. I have been realising, though, more and more, that I see Crows a lot, everywhere I go.

Thanks to everybody for your help, I appreciate it so much. :)

[Chodpa]

Since discovering all this, I feel very connected to the crow, and the sight and sound of them really soothes me. Makes me feel at peace. Could this be a sign that the crow is my, or one of my, animal totems? Any help is apprecaited. Thank you.
Yes, crows are cool, but for native Americans often they are considered the medicine man and the trickster/wise man. Often they are the callers to the quest, then later they become the guide, and yet later the source of wisdom, usually because they turn out to be a transformed medicine man. So goes the myth, I think.

[Erasmus70]

One thing I would like people to stop doing is saying 'Native Americans' or this is 'A Native thing' or 'Natives believed this or that'.
Totem Poles are found around Canadas Southwest and Americas 'Pacific Northwest Region' and in my case,
The Totems Im familiar with are Haida tradition.

"But those are Native Americans right?'

Uhhh.. ok.
Well this is like saying that 'Europeans' would build Stonehedges or something along that line.
Haida are not Mic-Mac.
Haida are not Blackfoot
Haida are not Hurons.

Even today with alot of 'homogenisation' (mixing) which is what happens with Europeans who moved to North America.
Even still,
To this day Haida and their Totems HAVE NOTHING TO DO with Mohawk (for example) and are distinctly unique and different nations from each other..

If a Mohawk had somehow made it all the way to Haida Gwaii 300 years ago, the Haida would have seen him as foreign and his beliefs and customs as bizarre and outerworldy as they would have a European.

Sorry, but it just irks me to no end when people start talking 'as if' there was some unified 'people' called 'Native Americans' who all had some universal culture.

(not directing this at the original poster in particular but just generalising here)

[Chodpa]

One thing I would like people to stop doing is saying 'Native Americans' or this is 'A Native thing' or 'Natives believed this or that'.
Totem Poles are found around Canadas Southwest and Americas 'Pacific Northwest Region' and in my case,
The Totems Im familiar with are Haida tradition.

"But those are Native Americans right?'

Uhhh.. ok.
Well this is like saying that 'Europeans' would build Stonehedges or something along that line.
Haida are not Mic-Mac.
Haida are not Blackfoot
Haida are not Hurons.

Even today with alot of 'homogenisation' (mixing) which is what happens with Europeans who moved to North America.
Even still,
To this day Haida and their Totems HAVE NOTHING TO DO with Mohawk (for example) and are distinctly unique and different nations from each other..

If a Mohawk had somehow made it all the way to Haida Gwaii 300 years ago, the Haida would have seen him as foreign and his beliefs and customs as bizarre and outerworldy as they would have a European.

Sorry, but it just irks me to no end when people start talking 'as if' there was some unified 'people' called 'Native Americans' who all had some universal culture.

(not directing this at the original poster in particular but just generalising here)
Actually, I knew that, but thanks for reiterating. I know a small amount of Cree and that's about it. Not sure if the crow things fits. I don't know where my old medicine man went ten years back.

[inbloom]

Sorry, I didn't mean it like that. It's just that I know Animal Totems/Medicine is a tradition among a lot of native tribes, am I wrong? Correct me if I am, but anything I've ever read on it, has stated something along those lines.

Didn't mean to offend, I'm sorry.

[SilverClover14]

Sorry, I didn't mean it like that. It's just that I know Animal Totems/Medicine is a tradition among a lot of native tribes, am I wrong? Correct me if I am, but anything I've ever read on it, has stated something along those lines.

Didn't mean to offend, I'm sorry.It is pretty common among many native tribes. It's just the term totem that Erasmus has a problem with, I think.

I'm a very firm believer of spirit animals (or totem animals, familiars, whatever). Ever since I was young, I've had dreams about elephants. My favorite TV shows as a small child were about elephants (the Elephant Show and Babar), I've always run straight to the elephants at the zoo, and I've always wanted to go to India or Thailand or Vietnam to see them. When my parents went to Hong Kong when I was 6, the only thing I asked for were elephant figurines so I have a small collection.

Whenever I'm upset, I have dreams about elephants. Those are the dreams I remember the most vividly. When I was 4 or 5, my parents got into a big argument before I went to bed and I fell asleep really upset. I dreamt that a pink baby elephant was there with me and the dream seemed to go on forever. When I woke up, it had been so vivid that I spent the next hour searching my house for it. It's odd that I still remember that dream so vividly 14 years later. That just gives me more confidence in my beliefs.

[Erasmus70]

Sorry, wasn't directing that at anyone in particular but just wanting to clarify the situation in general.
In my experience, I know about Haida totems and I understand that you can also find that tradition outside Vancouver Island although I have not heard of it anywhere else but to those peoples in the 'Pacific Northwest' areas.

I helped on a Totem and this will surprise you that it was done by a German.
So far gone was the cultural memory on the Rez that the Canadian government actualy paid a German expert to start a project and then try and pass it on to the natives.