outdoor growing

[Fractual_]

suggestions? i am thinkin of tryin it in my backyard, on the side of my garage. one neighbor cant see it and the other is cool with my mom and knows i(and the people on the other side of her) toke... so that probably won't be a problem. but it IS possible to see it from the street, it will probably be a good 30-45ish feet away from the street, but should i plant some bushes or something to hide it?


also, gecko, tie dye, and mg if you have any advice for an outdoor grower in virginia, or anyone, it'd be appreciated.

[soulrebel51]

if your moms okay with it, just make sure you keep it out of view from nosy neighbors who would nark, and keep it out of view from the street. it is pretty late in the season so it wont get too big, but just to be safe you should put some bushes around it for hiding. just make you leave enough room on all sides so that it always gets sunlight during the day, and water it often

[lavalamped]

suggestions? i am thinkin of tryin it in my backyard, on the side of my garage. one neighbor cant see it and the other is cool with my mom and knows i(and the people on the other side of her) toke... so that probably won't be a problem. but it IS possible to see it from the street, it will probably be a good 30-45ish feet away from the street, but should i plant some bushes or something to hide it?


also, gecko, tie dye, and mg if you have any advice for an outdoor grower in virginia, or anyone, it'd be appreciated.
Dude, I wish I had a mom like that!!! Feel privaledged.

[BigBong]

I dont have much time to type a bunch of stuff.. But I can tell you one thing.. real quick.. You need to get the plants out ASAP!! They will flower small which is actually a better choice due to limited planting options.. Make sure your spot is safe.. Try to water late at night.. Dont make a trail to your spot.. Make sure they atleast get 4-5 hours of DIRECT sunlight..


whoops.. should have read the post all the way through =P

[Fractual_]

ok i am getting them out there asap, started germinating tonight... i dont even know how far apart to plant them, i could really use some tips for outdoor growing

[soulrebel51]

right now mine are planted about an inch apart, its easier to water them that way. when they get bigger I am going to replant them farther apart and in a different area, so they are harder to be seen. I donno if you have the option to put them somewhere to hide, but i think its easy for a first time grower to do what I first said

[BigBong]

right now mine are planted about an inch apart, its easier to water them that way. when they get bigger I am going to replant them farther apart and in a different area, so they are harder to be seen. I donno if you have the option to put them somewhere to hide, but i think its easy for a first time grower to do what I first said
WOAH!! They need to be planted atleast a foot apart.. It would be hard and hurtful to seperate after root development..

[soulrebel51]

WOAH!! They need to be planted atleast a foot apart.. It would be hard and hurtful to seperate after root development..\


oops oh well ya live and you learn, guess Ill just keep them where they are then. thanks for the info for next year

[Fractual_]

someone mentioned something about not getting big buds, could i move them indoors before the first frost?


should i fertilize and when? how often do i water? how much sunlight will be enough for them??? i'm a real newbie to growing.

all advice is welcome.

[soulrebel51]

i am also a newbie to growing this summer

from what I heard most any type of fertilizer makes your weed taste like shit, i personally dont use any kind of fertilizer. definately dont use miracle grow, ive smoked weed that my friend had grown himself and used miracle grow on and man that shit was nasty

I water whenever I see that the dirt my plants are in is dry

my plants are out all day so they get as much sunlight as possible, and they are growing quickly

about moving indoors, that is not an option for me as my parents are very anti drug, but if your parents are cool with it then do it. just make sure you take care of them when they are inside

[Fractual_]

i'm sayin, it wont cause the plants stress to move them indoors to some fluros???

[tiedye0420]

No, moving them outdoors from inside is the tricky one. if you bring them in it's ok. Get good soil,like some foxfarm ocean forest, if your bring them in especially.I have lost so many outdoor plants id say indoors is probly best, unless they are unseen, and in your yard with a dog.

get a good grow book- it will teach you all the basics, and help you to understand the plants chemistry better. Which means you will grow better pot.

[Fractual_]

No, moving them outdoors from inside is the tricky one. if you bring them in it's ok. Get good soil,like some foxfarm ocean forest, if your bring them in especially.I have lost so many outdoor plants id say indoors is probly best, unless they are unseen, and in your yard with a dog.

get a good grow book- it will teach you all the basics, and help you to understand the plants chemistry better. Which means you will grow better pot.why buy a book when i have the web???

should i dig up a nice hole, and fill it with the soil you suggested? i doubt i would lose this plants outdoors, not very much wildlife around these parts. or should i just stick with indoors the whole way through, with some fluros??

[Spiral Sea]

keep them indoors if you can!

in my opinion it's too late to start outdoor growing because the plants need to flower for 8 to 10 weeks and the chances of terrible weather are getting huge by then... would hate to see everything wasted because of mould or budrot :(

[tiedye0420]

even outdoors it is best to use a five gallon nursery pot, dig a hole for the pot it will keep gophers out, and you can move it back indoor when it starts raining.

it is going to cost you lots of money growing indoor, that is a definite concern.

i read four or five growbooks by the age of 15, i still read growbooks, the internet is a leader in misinformation. if you read a couple good books you will recognise when someone online is full of shit or telling you a good method.
and you wont have to wait days for someone to give you an answer.

[soulrebel51]

do you have any suggestions for good grow books?

[tiedye0420]

yeah the "marijuana growers guide" from Mel frank and Ed rosenthal, indoor marijuana horticulture, by george cervantes, and after you read those two get marijuana botany by robert clarke.

If you get all three of these you will have all the knowledge you will ever need at your fingertips.

[soulrebel51]

why thank you

[EasyRider]

If your mum is fine with it then grow indoors...

[tiedye0420]

which would put george's book at the top of the list- indoor horticulture will dial you indoors bro.

Im off for more study- seems like im always researching something or other.

[Fractual_]

i am not that dedicated for my first grow to go out and buy and read a bunch of books... i figured i could learn the basics, enough to get by online....

[Uncannymicrobus]

whoa man. so my plants that are in miracle grow soil will be shit. man thats a bummer from all the work we did. oh well.

[Peace]

Wait, if your mom's cool with you growing, why not just grow indoors?

[Fractual_]

cuz man, it would just be a lot more hassle.

[soulrebel51]

actually oyu dont have to worry about bugs or moles like i do if you grow them inside. or having them drown in a rainstorm

[Peace]

cuz man, it would just be a lot more hassle.
Hassle or higher risk of being caught. Why grow outdo's if people from the street can see it? You realize that the outdo' plants will reek up. Same as indo' but you can minimize that some.

[Fractual_]

Hassle or higher risk of being caught. Why grow outdo's if people from the street can see it? You realize that the outdo' plants will reek up. Same as indo' but you can minimize that some.
both really... but i could stop peeps from the street from seein it... i doubt a few plants would reek all the way to the sidewalk.

[soulrebel51]

but man if its ok with your mom grow it indoors. i am pretty sure mine are dead from all the rain weve gotten these last 2 days. if you grow them inside you dont have to worry about it

[Fractual_]

i really don't mind paying attention the weather, especially if its for something right in my own backyard. shit i'll go sit with them with an umbrella if i have to, lol

[soulrebel51]

lol that wont look obvious

"oh hello officer, im not doing anything just sitting in the rain with an umbrella over my ground and not me"

but hey if you insist:rolleyes:

[Fractual_]

well i've never seen any police down my street, and only seen 'em in my nieghborhood like 3 times in my whole life. and not too many people go for walks in the rain :rolleyes:

[twoseeeyes]

I would reconsider. Your in VIRGINIA. At least your not on the North, but none the less.

Cultivation Any amountfelony5 - 30 years$10,000

You live in one of the biggest drug markets. No need to risk that amount of time just to grow a little extra weed.

If you grow anywhere it's inside your house.

[Fractual_]

I would reconsider. Your in VIRGINIA. At least your not on the North, but none the less.

Cultivation Any amountfelony5 - 30 years$10,000

You live in one of the biggest drug markets. No need to risk that amount of time just to grow a little extra weed.

If you grow anywhere it's inside your house.
yikes... is that really the virginia law? where did you find that?

[soulrebel51]

im guessing somewhere on the internet, but isnt that reason enough to grow inside your home? definately if your moms okay with it man!

[soulrebel51]

I would reconsider. Your in VIRGINIA. At least your not on the North, but none the less.

Cultivation Any amountfelony5 - 30 years$10,000

You live in one of the biggest drug markets. No need to risk that amount of time just to grow a little extra weed.

If you grow anywhere it's inside your house.

hey, where did you find that? would you happen to know the wisconsin state law too? and if so please tell me....pweeze?

[Fractual_]

yeah i was looking for the drug laws in virginia a couple of weeks ago, but couldnt find anything, so i'm curious where you got that too

[lovedatmj]

Just goto www.norml.org (http://www.norml.org/) to find weed laws in your state.

[Fractual_]

they arent very clear, it says
Cultivation Any amountfelony5 - 30 years$10,000
Cultivation of marijuana is punishable by 5 - 30 years in prison and a fine up to $10,000.

then towards the bottom it says

A conviction for manufacturing marijuana must include proof that the marijuana was being grown for a purpose other than the grower’s personal use.

so is cultivation manufacturing it? it IS just for personal use, so it will be be like 2 females max

[geckopelli]

It means for eithier you can get the same penalty, HOWEVER, manufaturing entails possesion with intent to distribute- probably From 3 to 15, depending on your state. And they may take your house, car, or whatever as a drug dealer.

But If you have a clean record you'd reasonably be looking at around 5 years probation and anti-drug propaganda and control on only the cultivation charge. Not too much to risk if you follow the rules- we rarely get caught.

[Fractual_]

i was hopin to see you here gecko, now that we got that covered, do you have any advice???

[geckopelli]

Never approach your patch carrying anything or alone, and
don't keep ANY growing materials at your house or in your car.

Drop whatever you are carrying out there at the car or house.
Have a partner and go together. If anyone catches you, you're just two guys in the woods with nothing to link you to the plants. Hell, tell 'em your gay.

One stays and the other goes back for supplies. arrange a clear signal. If you've both got cell phones, the person on watch calls the supply guy [NEVER the other way around] every ten min or whatever is appropriate for the distance involved.

It would be hard to get stung bad, because of your age- if you were caught, well, "gee, I'm a fucking dope head moron. I thought it took ten plants to get a bag!". But if they find a jar of fert or a grow book in your stuff, they'll nail you.

Everybody should know, that three people working together to plan and/or deliberately commit a crime is a federal conspiracy and, according to Bush, under the jurisdiction of the so-called patriot act.

Before that knee-jerk law was passed, A Friend's operation was popped growing shrooms (search it out- it was the biggest such bust in US history, in Florida, and in the 90's), even though not ONE illegal thing was on the property when the warrants were served.
They all got fed time for conspiracy- 1 to 5

After thought:In Vir. you will need to lime the soil.

[chuq6]

Yes try not to transplant if you can.
The longer they stay in one spot the better off.-shock