herion price

[Green-Hit]

i heard herion is more than opium but by how much
1 gram to 1 gram
how long is the high last on both
does smoking either one lesson the potency?
what if any effects on eating does either one bring on
thanx for replies

[Green-Hit]

anyone?

[LoriBaby]

well i would have answered u sooner but i dont know much about raw opium .......just heroin
so i guess im not much help
but if u have any questions based on H alone feel free to ask


oh and dont eat heroin or smoke it................it would be a waist
snorting it is the safest but best way to get the high u desire
just dont go to mainlining ............its hard to stop after u feel that in your veins just once

[Green-Hit]

ya i deff wouldnt but then could u just answer them but just about H
thanx
but i meant like when your high on herion what effects does that have on your appetiet increase hunger decrease?

[2cesarewild]

Prices of heroin vary wildly depending on quality and region. Don't know how much tar goes for, but it's ridiculously cheap I know that. Ten bags of 'good' H will be about 25 mg's. I'm talking white high power shit. The tar sells in grams and eight balls though.

The high of heroin is complete and total contentness. You will probably puke if you do it, I can't see someone in the nod wanting to really do much besides nod, so I doubt you'd be thinking about eating much. The high on opium is similar but not as extreme, very soon after smoking some it will hit you, faster than smoking say trees, and you will be very relaxed, like more relaxed than you could possibly imagine while straight. I talked to one kid who shit himself the only time he did heroin because he was so relaxed that he could not force himself to get up. A gram of opium, refined or raw, is nowhere near the potency of heroin. That is, unless you're talking about black tar heroin. Then, who knows.

[TokeTrip]

if you do buy heroin, don't buy tar. If that's all you can get, snort some oxy/vicodin.

[Green-Hit]

if there a reason why not to buy the tar?>

[LoriBaby]

well u cant snort tar....and smoking it is useless
so the best way with tar is mainlining..........and of course u dont want that

i truly dont know about tar though .....i live close to wilmington which is a major heroin city in NC and ive never seen it here

[2cesarewild]

Yes, there are reasons not to do heroin, and there are reasons why you don't do low-quality drugs. Black tar is like <10% heroin most of the time I think. It clogs up needles and shit too. Why are you so interested in doing heroin lol?

[RELAYER]

Like with most drugs, heroin is never pure, actually its usually half to 60% at best.

[2cesarewild]

Supposedly street batches in northeast test in the 80s, I thought I read that somewhere. Lke newark, nyc, etc. But there's always the shitty stuff around too and who knows if that was uncut huge shipments. I know very little about the whole 'scene.'

[RELAYER]

yea, i dont do it, but i've know people who were heavy on it, and i'm sure some it does get that high up there, but from what i've heard, mostly people are being ripped off. Now newark, i'd belive it, and nyc, and actually philly is supposed to have some potent shit.

[LoriBaby]

back when i had my little problem with this drug i got one hell of a connection......good deals low prices and very high quality
once i got a bag from him which had a mummy on the side(if that didnt warn me i dont know what would have)Anyways me and the guy i was with at the time split the bag
i was in a nod for 5 hrs , i shit u not
it was dark brown heroin which isnt that uncommon solely because ppl use vitamins as a cut alot
but this wasnt vitamins .......i beleive it was the closest thing to pure ive ever received and it was only once.....
so relayer i think ur right about it being only 60 % at best

[2cesarewild]

The northeast is a completely different market for drugs.

[Green-Hit]

i have nvr don it thats way i was intrested make sense??

[RELAYER]

Yea Lori, I Thought That Was About What People Are Usually Getting. But 2ces Is Also Right, Since The Cities Up Here Are Loaded With Very Good Bad Drugs. 2C Where In Mass Are You? You Know Where Lowell Is? And How Do You Really Pronounce Worcester?

[2cesarewild]

Kid I live in lowhell, the heroin/cocaine/crack capital of new england lmao (along with lawrence which is like 15 mins away). Fuck this shithole. Worcester is pronounced "wussta" if you're from here, but as you go south, r's become more pronounced. I think I heard someone pronounce it "warchester" before.

[2cesarewild]

i have nvr don it thats way i was intrested make sense??
Yea man I feel ya on the thirst for knowledge, i got it too, no need to get pushy just wondering if you were thinking of riding the horse or anything.

[RELAYER]

Kid I live in lowhell, the heroin/cocaine/crack capital of new england lmao (along with lawrence which is like 15 mins away). Fuck this shithole. Worcester is pronounced "wussta" if you're from here, but as you go south, r's become more pronounced. I think I heard someone pronounce it "warchester" before.
damn thats cool, I know some people in lowell, i havent been there in a long time though. And yea wussta is what i thought, when I call places in mass I always think they saying rooster. But, i gathered that's what it was.

[RELAYER]

and i know lawence, and tewksbuwy, and chelmsfed, shit i cant really spell out the accent up there. yea, i miss going up to N.E. though, especially vermont. Philly's got cool people and stuff to do, but waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too many crack heads.

[2cesarewild]

Shit man, surprised you know the surrounding towns like that. You know some heads in lowell? From touring with phish or something?


lol, IDK how well you know the area, but chelmsford is kinda like a rich town, and I work in chelmsford. So my ride was out of work that day, and I am walking down the street in chelmsford the other day around 830 or 9 at night and I was wearing shorts cause I had con'd my mom into doing my laundry as I had no money for the laundromat. So I wore all I had, a long sleeve shirt and a pair of shorts, it was kinda cold, but dude, someone called the cops on me. I was just walking down the street, two cops, stopped me and ran all my info and shit then gave me a ride. They told me some mother fucker in chelmsford called in and reported that I was barefoot, with a t shirt and shorts. I wonder if the dispatch was like "uhh we got some suspicious activity, guy wearing shorts... beware his hair is long." WTF is going on when in america you can't walk down the street without someone calling the cops cause you're wearing shorts. Also sort of ironic that LEO's steal my car, but pick me up off the road on a cold night to give me a ride home. Wow.

[RELAYER]

That's pretty fucked up man. But I know people there, kind of long story, but I work for a trucking company, and three guys live all over neew england, the guy in lowell is the shit, he's from Laos I think, and i have some family up there too. But i havent been in a while, I just know it from when i used to visit, and from my job. I used to go in the summer sometimes and that was pretty cool just to get out of PA. But if you ever see a truck, well in Lowell i know his truck is red, and they all have a black double headed eagle on the doors and trailers, and they say DFX on them, then that's them. I mean seriously we have like 5-6 trucks a day in mass, usually in Norwood, but that red one is always in Lowell. That's kind a tripped out!

[RELAYER]

Oh yea, and I dont drive the trucks, so dont think I'm a redneck meth head please. hahaha, they always have coke and meth, them fuckin psychos.

[2cesarewild]

lol, yea that's how they stay up forever that shit must get boring.

[RELAYER]

definitley

[Bellbottomfarie]

oh and dont eat heroin or smoke it................it would be a waist
snorting it is the safest but best way to get the high u desire
just dont go to mainlining ............its hard to stop after u feel that in your veins just once well u cant snort tar....and smoking it is useless
so the best way with tar is mainlining..........and of course u dont want that

i truly dont know about tar though .....i live close to wilmington which is a major heroin city in NC and ive never seen it here BULLSHIT! u obviously don't know what ur talking about. snorting H is neither the safest nor the most effective way to get high. smoking is actually much better because u have to snort more than if you were smoking, also when u snort it takes longer till the kick sets in..longer than from smoking. beside smoking is safer since it gives you more control over the "dosage" and high (every health institution will tell you it's THE safest way to do h) plus you don't get as much belly aches and cramps as from snorting or eating. man and to think that u protray yourself as an expert or somethin.tsk..stop pretending you know what ur talking about. k?

[Bellbottomfarie]

back when i had my little problem with this drug i got one hell of a connection......good deals low prices and very high quality
once i got a bag from him which had a mummy on the side(if that didnt warn me i dont know what would have)Anyways me and the guy i was with at the time split the bag
i was in a nod for 5 hrs , i shit u not
it was dark brown heroin which isnt that uncommon solely because ppl use vitamins as a cut alot
but this wasnt vitamins .......i beleive it was the closest thing to pure ive ever received and it was only once.....
so relayer i think ur right about it being only 60 % at best how dum,..again get ur facts straight it's been said that street h ranges up to 90 percent pure.

[RELAYER]

It's Also Been Said That Farie's Are Real.

[Bellbottomfarie]

like it's been said that you're actually straight? i didn't came up with those statistics, i quoted some institutions who do research on this, ya know?

[RELAYER]

Ok Friend, That's Fine With Me. Pretty Funny Actually. So Wich Institutions Have You Quoted?

[Bellbottomfarie]

do the google! you can do it...I love you man.


edited
or just check your pms.

[RELAYER]

Coool. You are nice!

[TokeTrip]

Bellbottom is dumb.

[RELAYER]

How dumb?

[LoriBaby]

i cant beleive this cunt is trying to tell me to smoke heroin.......u dumb fucking cunt....bell bottom wearing cunt...and i also like to know where the fuck u r getting 90% pure heroin ......wtf.....ugh god i shouldnt even be repling to some snot nose bitch who has probably never even touch the stuff.......smoking it is pointless i know cuz ive tried .....read my post carefully next time b4 u open ur yeast infected mouth
and i never said snorting was safe .....i said it was safer than mainlining(and i dont think anyone can disagree with me there)

[LoriBaby]

i really wish this bitch was still on so i could ask her some questions(cuz shes the goddess of heroin sopposedly) South carolina must have the columbian shit......90% pure my ass......if that was true i woldnt be alive along with anyone else who has tried it and not had a tolerance

[RELAYER]

read my post carefully next time b4 u open ur yeast infected mouth

That was quite possibly the funniest thing I ever read!

[LoriBaby]

i just hate when ppl start shit with me and cant even do it correctly

and once again thanks

[RELAYER]

yep!

[2cesarewild]

Yea I mean samples have been tested at 90%, seen those figures all over the place, but what's "street heroin" to a professional institute :rolleyes: ? The guy moving kilos of H is not street level lol, And what area of the country? AFAIK heroin that high-grade (80% and up) is a northeastern phenomenon, rarely seen as you go farther out into the us. BUT HEY I don't work for the DEA and I am just throwing n my .02

[Bellbottomfarie]

i cant beleive this cunt is trying to tell me to smoke heroin.......u dumb fucking cunt....bell bottom wearing cunt...and i also like to know where the fuck u r getting 90% pure heroin ......wtf.....ugh god i shouldnt even be repling to some snot nose bitch who has probably never even touch the stuff.......smoking it is pointless i know cuz ive tried .....read my post carefully next time b4 u open ur yeast infected mouth
and i never said snorting was safe .....i said it was safer than mainlining(and i dont think anyone can disagree with me there) aww, sunshine did you get upset?
You assume a lot, for all you know i could be some sort of authority on this topic. You really shouldn’t jump on conclusions so fast, I mean this would be like me assuming that you’re NOT some drugged-out, sperm gargling, foul-mouthed, cum dumpster who sucked cock for cheap h.

and i never said snorting was safe .....i said it was safer than mainlining(and i dont think anyone can disagree with me there)
“snorting it is the safest but best way to get the high u desire”

READ YOUR OWN FUCKING BRAINLESS BABBLE BULLSHIT, DUMBASS.

Again, smoking is the best, as in the most effective but safest way to use heroin, for the reasons I mentioned before. I know this from my own personal experience as well as report but also from the experiences of buddys and former friends who have been doing h for years now. Don’t you think that some heroin junkies whose lifes revolve around that fucken drug (and who for various reasons refuse to shoot it up) would do anything but to risk to waist even a tiny bit of the high? So why do they choose to smoke it then if it’s such a waist? If that’s not plausibly enough or still too hard for you to grasp - a lot of health organisations with solid reputation and credibility, refrerr to smoking to be the safest way to consume heroin (they’re not encouraging people to do this drug, though just trying to inform and protect people).
Maybe if you would have smoked quality opiates instead of some bleach-laced dirt that fucked with your lousy cognition, you would know the difference too by now.

Look butterball, for all I care you can injest feces into your veins, just don’t expect that your juveline drug escapades have any sort of validation whatsoever beyond something as fucking brilliant as: “uhh der well uhg ah knews some duUde wh0 said t0kIng fR1ed baNaNas pEEls is liek hEroin 0r sUm“.


As for that 90% pure heroin quote, here you go.

http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/0175.html

There’s more information out there, just google it yourself...that’s your job not mine!

Now let me ask YOU something, how excactly do you know that 60% pure heroin is the upper limit in the whole fucking US? Have done some research on this or any other scientific experiments from the comfort of your own kitchen meth lab or is this just one of your expertises as an “experienced” drug user again?


To everyone else, sorry for the foul language, when confronted with morons I tend to talk in a language that they can understand.

[Bellbottomfarie]

Bellbottom is dumb. good one

[Bellbottomfarie]

i really wish this bitch was still on so i could ask her some questions(cuz shes the goddess of heroin sopposedly) South carolina must have the columbian shit......90% pure my ass......if that was true i woldnt be alive along with anyone else who has tried it and not had a tolerance it's been said that the best heroin is from Asia...The Golden Triangle ya know, Colombia is supposed to have the best cocaine, by the way. Then again most of the heroin in the states is from South America anyway.


hey Relayer, do you have any messengers?

[LoriBaby]

well leah all i can say is ur incorrect ......i got 60% from relayers post but obviously u cant read well enough to see that i was agreeing with him....but its cool be angry ....i personally find it hard to get affended by people who dont wear deoderant and dont shave their nasty fucking armpits(read some of her 10 post people)

[LoriBaby]

aww, sunshine did you get upset?
You assume a lot, for all you know i could be some sort of authority on this topic. You really shouldn’t jump on conclusions so fast, I mean this would be like me assuming that you’re NOT some drugged-out, sperm gargling, foul-mouthed, cum dumpster who sucked cock for cheap h.


“snorting it is the safest but best way to get the high u desire”

READ YOUR OWN FUCKING BRAINLESS BABBLE BULLSHIT, DUMBASS.

Again, smoking is the best, as in the most effective but safest way to use heroin, for the reasons I mentioned before. I know this from my own personal experience as well as report and the experiences of buddys and former friends who have been doing h for years now. Don’t you think that some heroin junkies whose lifes revolve around that fucken drug (and who for various reasons refuse to shoot it up) would do anything but risk to waist even a tiny bit of the high? So why do they choose to smoke it then if it’s such a waist? If that’s not plausibly enough or still too hard for you to grasp - a lot of health organisations with solid reputation and credibility, refrerr to smoking to be the safest way to consume heroin (they’re not encouraging people to do this drug, just trying to inform and protect people, by the way).
Maybe if you would have smoked quality opiates instead of some bleach-laced dirt that fucked with your lousy cognition, you would know the difference too by now.

Look butterball, for all I care you can injest feces into your veins, just don’t expect that your juveline drug escapades have any sort of validation whatsoever beyond something fucking brilliant as: “uhh der well uhg ah knews some duUde wh0 said t0kIng fRIed baNaNas pEEls is liek hEroin 0r sUm“.


As for that 90% pure heroin quote, here you go.

http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/0175.html

There’s more information out there, just google it yourself...that’s your job not mine!

Now let me ask YOU something, how excactly do you know that 60% pure heroin is the upper limit in the whole fucking US? Have done some research on this or any other scientific experiments from the comfort of your own kitchen meth lab or is this just one of your expertises as an “experienced” drug user again?


To everyone else, sorry for the foul language, when confronted with morons I tend to talk in a language that they can understand.

it says in your own fucking site 0-90% so do u really think the average is 90%


I personally think it would be somewhere in the middle hmmm i dunno lets say around 50% or 60%........god i really was wrong huh??

[LoriBaby]

it's been said that the best heroin is from Asia...The Golden Triangle ya know, Colombia is supposed to have the best cocaine, by the way. Then again most of the heroin in the states is from South America anyway.


hey Relayer, do you have any messengers?
The site u posted is based out of columbia as well ........do i really need to make my point here???


and since u love googling so much heres one for u http://www.heroinaddiction2.com/smoking-heroin.htm



Never heard of someone getting brain damage from snorting out of a plastic straw......but hey if u think smoking is so much safer ......by all means be my guest.......one less idiotically spiteful cunt in the world

[LoriBaby]

aww, sunshine did you get upset?
You assume a lot, for all you know i could be some sort of authority on this topic. You really shouldn’t jump on conclusions so fast, I mean this would be like me assuming that you’re NOT some drugged-out, sperm gargling, foul-mouthed, cum dumpster who sucked cock for cheap h.


“snorting it is the safest but best way to get the high u desire”

READ YOUR OWN FUCKING BRAINLESS BABBLE BULLSHIT, DUMBASS.

Again, smoking is the best, as in the most effective but safest way to use heroin, for the reasons I mentioned before. I know this from my own personal experience as well as report and the experiences of buddys and former friends who have been doing h for years now. Don’t you think that some heroin junkies whose lifes revolve around that fucken drug (and who for various reasons refuse to shoot it up) would do anything but risk to waist even a tiny bit of the high? So why do they choose to smoke it then if it’s such a waist? If that’s not plausibly enough or still too hard for you to grasp - a lot of health organisations with solid reputation and credibility, refrerr to smoking to be the safest way to consume heroin (they’re not encouraging people to do this drug, just trying to inform and protect people, by the way).
Maybe if you would have smoked quality opiates instead of some bleach-laced dirt that fucked with your lousy cognition, you would know the difference too by now.

Look butterball, for all I care you can injest feces into your veins, just don’t expect that your juveline drug escapades have any sort of validation whatsoever beyond something fucking brilliant as: “uhh der well uhg ah knews some duUde wh0 said t0kIng fRIed baNaNas pEEls is liek hEroin 0r sUm“.


As for that 90% pure heroin quote, here you go.

http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/0175.html

There’s more information out there, just google it yourself...that’s your job not mine!

Now let me ask YOU something, how excactly do you know that 60% pure heroin is the upper limit in the whole fucking US? Have done some research on this or any other scientific experiments from the comfort of your own kitchen meth lab or is this just one of your expertises as an “experienced” drug user again?


To everyone else, sorry for the foul language, when confronted with morons I tend to talk in a language that they can understand.

I said it was the safest but best way to get the high he desired .......once again u cunt read all my post carefully before u open ur disgusting probably non -teeth brushing nasty ass mouth......

[Bellbottomfarie]

well leah all i can say is ur incorrect ......i got 60% from relayers post but obviously u cant read well enough to see that i was agreeing with him....but its cool be angry ....i personally find it hard to get affended by people who dont wear deoderant and dont shave their nasty fucking armpits(read some of her 10 post people) Fucking A!

Every time I think she can't possibly say something more retarded to make me laugh harder, she proves me wrong.
By all means carry on, embarrass yourself a bit more.

Well let’s see, for one I know Relayer made a vague assumption based on his personal experiences or on what he heard. This probably wasn’t meant to be taken literally but rather as statement made on a gut level.
So I’ll try to articulate this as simple as I can: My question was, “How do YOU know that 60% pure heroin is the upper limit in the whole fucking US?” or even more simple “What made you agree with Relayer?”.
Secondly, I really love your genius comebacks such as...

“i personally find it hard to get affended by people who dont wear deoderant and dont shave their nasty fucking armpits(read some of her 10 post people)” I personally find it hard to be OFFENDED by people who can’t even spell to begin with. Maybe you should take that cock out of your mouth first and put that crack pipe down...would make it much easier to type I suppose.

I’m almost flattered that you've actually been lurking around my posts in a desperate and feeble-minded attempt to throw some shit at me. Only you failed again, I actually wrote that I don’t really shave my legs and that I don’t use artificial scents but natural perfumes and oils, yet you’re the one who keeps insisting that I can’t read?
I don’t know about you but people with good personal hygiene don’t need any perfumes. So please, try again.

„but its cool be angry“ Cookie, you must confuse this with your incoherent pouty ramblings.

"it says in your own fucking site 0-90% so do u really think the average is 90%"
Exactly what is fucked worked in your head? At which point did I or the quoted source claim such a thing?

What you wrote:
“so relayer i think ur right about it being only 60 % at best”
What I wrote (and what actually the site says):
“it's been said that street h ranges up to 90 percent pure.”
To which you replied:
"I personally think it would be somewhere in the middle hmmm i dunno lets say around 50% or 60%........god i really was wrong huh??” I repeat: "READ YOUR OWN FUCKING BRAINLESS BABBLE BULLSHIT, DUMBASS.”
READ...READ IT...READ till you fucking understand because you’re obviously not getting anything.
I find it hysterical that you constantly try to twist your own reading deficits against me.
“The site u posted is based out of columbia as well ........do i really need to make my point here???” Uh yeah, please point it out to me because I fail to see where you’re getting at.

You quoting that article is pretty much self-defeating, did you even read the whole thing? It didn’t refute that smoking heroin is still the safest way to consume this drug. Of course those quoted police officials are supposed to say that you shouldn’t use heroin at all, but if you still choose to do so....then inhaling is still the way to go.
Quote:
"Don't smoke heroin, period - but if you do, don't smoke it off aluminum," said Wayne Jeffrey, a police toxicologist. "There seems to be an interaction between some of the things heroin is cut with and the aluminum foil that causes a toxic reaction."
Quote:
"It's unusual that there is such a cluster that has occurred in this area in such a short period of time."

Did you see that? They said it’s unusual that this has occurred in that area in such a short period of time, meaning that usually you don’t have these types of problems and this is probably a periodical occouring phenomenon, due to the fact that some sick, fucked up dope pushers lace their shit with trash that doesn’t work well with tin foil.
There are probably reports out there on how people died like flies through heavy cramps and whatnot after they sniffed dirty h.
So basically this hasn’t necessarily something to do with "technique" itself but with the kind of dope you ingest.

Smoking is safer because as I stated a couple of times before, you have more control over the dosage, as in you don’t overdose that quick.

http://www.heroinhelper.com/user/admin/od_smoking.shtml

Quote:
"Snorting" Isn't As Safe As You Think
People think snorting is safe, but it isn't. The problem is that it takes a long time to feel what you have snorted. So you can snort way too much before you even begin to feel the effects. The same goes for IM and SC injection. It's like setting a time bomb."


"Why Smoking Is Safe...
Smoking is the safest way to ingest heroin because you are always "up to date" with the effect of the drug. By smoking, you ingest a small amount of heroin. You feel the effect within 10 - 20 seconds (yes, faster than an IV injection). So under most circumstances, you will pass out before you can smoke enough to overdose."

[Bellbottomfarie]

I said it was the safest but best way to get the high he desired .......once again u cunt read all my post carefully before u open ur disgusting probably non -teeth brushing nasty ass mouth......
was this supposed to be offending, funny or original, my dull-headed friend? I'm not the cum guzzling ex heroin junkie.

see, Relayer I told you she's dumb like wood

[LoriBaby]

Okay. I have a few more remarks before I am done with this topic. After I make my points, I will be adding Bellbottom to my ignore list. The reason that I am adding her to my ignore list is simply because I am tired of going back and forth about this. Also, Bellbottom decided to send me a private message that attempted to point out my stupidity, which obviously is a desperate attempt to put someone down to make themselves feel better, or right. Here we go...

Number one: The original point that started this entire argument was the fact that Relayer pointed out that street herion, in general, is normally around 60% pure. I agreed with him because, as a standard, product is cut from dealer to dealer in order to increase profits. Apparantly, Bellbottom assumed that I meant that ALL STREEET HEROIN IN THE US IS 60% OR LESS. This is not the case. I do understand that in some rare cases, normally in the northeast (as 2ce pointed out to be a PHENOMENON), product is cut less, and the range of pure heroin does go up to 90% or so. I acknowlede this fact and I never insinuated otherwise. Why Bellbottom decided to misread my post, and single me out is not important.

Number two: I stated that the best way to acheive Green-Hit's high from heroin is to snort it. I said this because it is the most efficient way to get your high, and maintain a nice long peak without needles being involved. When snorting heroin, you will feel the full effects of the drug for around 3-6 hours (estimated), but there is much less risk of becoming addicted to the drug than in the case of mainlining it. When you smoke heroin, you will acheive the high faster, but the peak will only last around 5-10 minutes (google erowid.com if you question my sources). In my opinion, 5-10 minute peak is a complete waste of an otherwise long lasting drug. Also, the simple fact that there ARE cases of dealers cutting their product with materials that are unsafe to smoke out of tin foil, makes the practice of smoking heroin COMPLETELY unsafe because unless you are a home chemist, you do NOT HAVE A CLUE WHAT THE PRODUCT IS CUT WITH. Now, if you want to test your luck and smoke it out of tin foil, so be it, but as far as I'm concerned, there is absolutely no logical reason to chance it when you can more safely snort the product and acheive the same high and keep your buzz longer. Also, smoking anything off of tin foil is never safe. EVER. PERIOD. ITS FUCKING TIN FOIL FOR FUCKS SAKE.

Number three: This will be short and to the point. Bellbottom stated that Relayer must have been coming up with his answers based on personal experiance, which is probobly true. This is also the case with myself. However, does Bellbottom really think that she is the ONLY PERSON ON THIS FORUM THAT HAS EVER RESEARCHED THIS DRUG?!?!?! Also, didn't she mention that alot of her knowledge of this drug came from HER FRIENDS PERSONAL EXPIRENCE?? Let me get this straight. She can accept the word of her junkie friends, but anything said by users/ex-users on this forum is not credible? This makes no sense to me at all.

Finally, Number four: When I made a referance to Columbia having pure heroin (which I said sarcasticaly that she must have been getting her supply from), she insisted that Columbia is known for cocaine, and that Asia was more well known for heroin. I have no doubt in my mind that Asia has great heroin; I am sure that they do. However, does she really believe that because Columbia has great cocaine, that they do not have good heroin?? Also, the facts that she "googled" came from a Columbian-based website. WHERE IN THE BLUE HELL DO YOU THINK THEY GOT THEIR PRODUCT FROM??? More than likely it came from Columbia, NOT Asia.

Anyway, I felt that I was being misunderstood by a simple minded person, that can take the words of junkies that she knows, but cannot even be open-minded enough to actually READ AND UNDERSTAND my posts. Now that I have made my points VERY clear, and have backed up the ones that might possibly have been needed to be verified, I withdraw myself from this topic. Thank you and good day.

P.S. -- Bellbottom...Next time you decide to randomly come on to a forum and single someone out for no good reason, PLEASE read their posts in their entirety and ATTEMPT to understand them first. Also, for the sake of those around you, wash your ass, use deodarant, and shave your legs. Oils, perfumes, ect. and anti-persperants are completely different things. Again, Anti-perspirant is used to keep the body from sweating, perfume, oil, ect. does not. No matter how good your personal hygiene is, your body sweats. period. Sweating = smell. Just because your perfume masks your smell, does not mean that you do not smell to begin with. You indeed are a smelly bastard if you do not use deodarant or some sort of anti-perspirant.

Now if you don't mind, please, FUCK OFF!

Thank you.

*waits for applause*

[Bellbottomfarie]

Okay. I have a few more remarks before I am done with this topic. After I make my points, I will be adding Bellbottom to my ignore list. The reason that I am adding her to my ignore list is simply because I am tired of going back and forth about this. Also, Bellbottom decided to send me a private message that attempted to point out my stupidity, which obviously is a desperate attempt to put someone down to make themselves feel better, or right. Here we go... AAAAAAHAHAHA HAHAH AHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAH

*snort*

WWAAAAAHAHHHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA GGGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Weren’t you the one who set out to verbally shrivel me? What’s wrong now, did you bite off more than you can chew?
I really love how she’s playing off my own insults, and mannerisms, i.e.: "is a desperate attempt to", "point out" "Here we go...” etc.
GET YOUR OW FUCKING MATERIAL YOU BLASTING ASS FUCK!

"attempted to point out my stupidity,"

Yeah, I sent you that one line, was that too much for fragile little mind?
Honestly, I don’t think I have to point that one out, you’re doing a great job exposing the dumbass that you are yourself.

Translation of your paragraph above: I understand that Bellbottomfaerie is superior to me, I’m humilated and disarmened. I’m scared and I can’t say anything back this why I choose to come up with laughable excuses.

I’ll try to address her bullshit because this is fun to me and there’s nothing else to do right now.
Number one: The original point that started this entire argument was the fact that Relayer pointed out that street herion, in general, is normally around 60% pure. I agreed with him because, as a standard, product is cut from dealer to dealer in order to increase profits. FALSE, because, "the original point that started this" is the fact that you obviously don’t have a fucking clue what you’re talking about, when you post things like:"snorting heroin is the best but safest way", which I’ve proven wrong several times already.
Also, the correct quote of Relayer is: "heroin is never pure, actually its usually half to 60% at best.", to which you agreed, "so relayer i think ur right about it being only 60 % at best".
Now you’re saying that: "street herion, in general, is normally around 60% pure". Did you see those marked words? I did this for a reason you know...there is difference between "60% at best" - meaning it doesn’t get any better – and "normally around 60%" – meaning there’s still better stuff out there but the average is 60%-.
You’re constantly contradicting yourself, even you can’t be THAT dense, so I’m guessing you’re doing this on purpose in a helpless attempt to save your neck.

Apparantly, Bellbottom assumed that I meant that ALL STREEET HEROIN IN THE US IS 60% OR LESS. Actually yes, this is exactly what you meant when you wrote: "so relayer i think ur right about it being only 60 % at best". You (living NC) are agreeing with someone from Philly on how the top-notch is 60%. Get it? I can't believe I'm explaining your own nonsense. haha

This is not the case. I do understand that in some rare cases, normally in the northeast (as 2ce pointed out to be a PHENOMENON), product is cut less, and the range of pure heroin does go up to 90% or so. I acknowlede this fact and I never insinuated otherwise. Why Bellbottom decided to misread my post, and single me out is not important. BULLSHIT, because that’s what you’re saying now that your punk ass got busted. What you typed before: [QUOT=LoriBaby]and i also like to know where the fuck u r getting 90% pure heroin ..[/QUOTE] Nice try to twist your own words though.

Number two: I stated that the best way to acheive Green-Hit's high from heroin is to snort it. I said this because it is the most efficient way to get your high, and maintain a nice long peak without needles being involved. When snorting heroin, you will feel the full effects of the drug for around 3-6 hours (estimated), but there is much less risk of becoming addicted to the drug than in the case of mainlining it. When you smoke heroin, you will acheive the high faster, but the peak will only last around 5-10 minutes (google erowid.com if you question my sources). In my opinion, 5-10 minute peak is a complete waste of an otherwise long lasting drug. I call BULLSHIT again! I’d really like to know from where you got the idea that the peak of inhaled heroin will last for only 5-10 minutes? I’ve been on that site and I couldn’t find anything, are you sure you aren’t confusing this with crack cocaine or freebase?
I’m guessing you’re making that up too or you deliberately misunderstand again what has been written - in an attempt to score. I think I can say this with some accurancy, since you probably would have never let that one slip by not posting the direct link, so that you could prove me wrong.

No matter how, from my own experience and from others as well, the high of smoked heroin lasts indeed for a couple of hours. If that’s not evindence enough, you still haven’t answered me why even junkies who dedicated their lifes to that drug, choose TO FUCKING SMOKE HEROIN IF IT’S SUCH A WAIST?
Even if we pretend that you’re right for a second and assume that the peak is rather short-lived compared to the one you get from snorting it. Even if that would be the case, I’d still say smoking is the better choice. Wanna know how I know? Well, does it ever occur to you that (since you finally kind of admitted that smoking will get you high faster and therefore you need less and would have more control over the dosage) you could spare some of the smack? As in, since you need less of the same amount you could start with inhaling some of it and after a while when you’re beginning to come down, you could smoke a bit more...in a way that you can have both, control and decent high over the same period of time if not longer.

Also, the simple fact that there ARE cases of dealers cutting their product with materials that are unsafe to smoke out of tin foil, makes the practice of smoking heroin COMPLETELY unsafe because unless you are a home chemist, you do NOT HAVE A CLUE WHAT THE PRODUCT IS CUT WITH. Now, if you want to test your luck and smoke it out of tin foil, so be it, but as far as I'm concerned, there is absolutely no logical reason to chance it when you can more safely snort the product and acheive the same high and keep your buzz longer. You really grasp at straws, don’t you? Let me start off by stating that USING HEROIN AT ALL IS COMPLETELY UNSAFE TO BEGIN WITH!!!! Or any other hard drug from the streets for that matter.
Not only will you become addicted and destroy your life but there’s always the risk of a sudden death through an overdose or horrible laced stuff.
Those reported cases in the article most likely got that heroin from an shady street corner dealer. The key is not buy your dope from an anonymous flakey source of the streets.Those things may happen, however, thats not the point...it’s not common. You’re trying to make it sound as if snorting heroin is free from dangers which simply isn’t true. These type of things could be reported about almost every drug and all their forms of usage. Every time you buy pills at a rave you’re basically playing russian roulette.

Following your logic, people shouldn’t really be snorting because you always risk to fuck up your nostrils (which you actually do, by the way), besides it could be cut with any kind of toxic shit.
What about not inhaling out of tin foil then, if you’re that concerned? What’s with smoking it through an pipe or something else instead? HOW DIFFICULT IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND?
Also, smoking anything off of tin foil is never safe. EVER. PERIOD. ITS FUCKING TIN FOIL FOR FUCKS SAKE. Not true. God knows how many people smoke any kind of drug off of tin foil every day. I know we did smoke a lot of grass out of aluminum foil or cans when there wasn’t a bong around and look at me now, I’m giving you lectures on your favorite drug (or so it seems) on a message boad.
I mean when it comes to drug usage, what’s healthy anyway? Snorting any kind of shit through your nose isn’t safe or healthy, SMOKING FUCKING CIGARETTES IS HEALTHY.

Number three: This will be short and to the point. Bellbottom stated that Relayer must have been coming up with his answers based on personal experiance, which is probobly true. This is also the case with myself. However, does Bellbottom really think that she is the ONLY PERSON ON THIS FORUM THAT HAS EVER RESEARCHED THIS DRUG?!?!?! Well at least I know you didn’t. As for my question towards you, that’s what it was all about. To find out if the things you claim are solely based on opinion or not...but I think I know the answer now.
Also, didn't she mention that alot of her knowledge of this drug came from HER FRIENDS PERSONAL EXPIRENCE?? Let me get this straight. She can accept the word of her junkie friends, but anything said by users/ex-users on this forum is not credible? This makes no sense to me at all. Hold on, aren’t you a recovering junkie?

Read again:
Again, smoking is the best, as in the most effective but safest way to use heroin, for the reasons I mentioned before. I know this from my own personal experience as well as report but also from the experiences of buddys and former friends who have been doing h for years now. Don’t you think that some heroin junkies whose lifes revolve around that fucken drug (and who for various reasons refuse to shoot it up) would do anything but to risk to waist even a tiny bit of the high? So why do they choose to smoke it then if it’s such a waist? Which part of that didn’t you understand?
Finally, Number four: When I made a referance to Columbia having pure heroin (which I said sarcasticaly that she must have been getting her supply from), she insisted that Columbia is known for cocaine, and that Asia was more well known for heroin. I have no doubt in my mind that Asia has great heroin; I am sure that they do. However, does she really believe that because Columbia has great cocaine, that they do not have good heroin?? When did i say that? I’m beginning to believe that you have a bad habit of purposely misreading things and putting words into people’s mouths when being cornered and publicy shattered.
Good job!
Try again and note the marked parts this time:
"it's been said that the best heroin is from Asia...The Golden Triangle ya know, Colombia is supposed to have the best cocaine, by the way. Then again most of the heroin in the states is from South America anyway." Also, the facts that she "googled" came from a Columbian-based website. WHERE IN THE BLUE HELL DO YOU THINK THEY GOT THEIR PRODUCT FROM??? More than likely it came from Columbia, NOT Asia." Yeah, I do "google" facts, you make sound as if there’s anything wrong with that. Internet research has become a respected and credible source not only for journalists but even in the scientific world.
I like how I can’t make any sense out of the rest of your quote. I’m really trying to understand but for some reason I can’t.I’m scared to think that you’re actually confusing a health related section of the Columbia University homepage with the South American country "Colombia".
Please anyone tell me that’s not what she’s saying.

Anyway, I felt that I was being misunderstood by a simple minded person, that can take the words of junkies that she knows, but cannot even be open-minded enough to actually READ AND UNDERSTAND my posts. Now that I have made my points VERY clear, and have backed up the ones that might possibly have been needed to be verified, I withdraw myself from this topic. Thank you and good day. Look five paragraphs above....uhh not wait seven.
P.S. -- Bellbottom...Next time you decide to randomly come on to a forum and single someone out for no good reason, PLEASE read their posts in their entirety and ATTEMPT to understand them first. Hmm, let’s see the purpose of an online message board is to actually write back, randomly or not. I’d say I did read your comments (even though it made my brain hurt) but if you don’t want people to reply to your inane bullshit, then don’t post. It’s simple as that.
If I see you posting something dumb, I’ll reply. I don’t want to treat you different than anyone else.

Also, for the sake of those around you, wash your ass, use deodarant, and shave your legs. Oils, perfumes, ect. and anti-persperants are completely different things. Again, Anti-perspirant is used to keep the body from sweating, perfume, oil, ect. does not. No matter how good your personal hygiene is, your body sweats. period. Sweating = smell. Just because your perfume masks your smell, does not mean that you do not smell to begin with. You indeed are a smelly bastard if you do not use deodarant or some sort of anti-perspirant. Good god, I don’t even need to make fun of you.

Now if you don't mind, please, FUCK OFF!

Thank you.

*waits for applause* You go when I tell you to leave you miserable worm. I got bored fucking with your defective mind, it was fun till it lasted.
Now piss off and snort another line or whatever it is that you do.




DESTROYED

[LoriBaby]

Just so everyone knows it really shouldnt take anyone (bellbottom) 45 minutes to modify a post......quite sad if u ask me....

[Bellbottomfarie]

AHAHA I thought you were ignoring me? and now you're basically saying that you've been observing my activities? hahah 45 min. my ass.

edited:
and all of the sudden she signed out.

[RELAYER]

All I was saying is that H is usually 60 % pure at most. Usually. And Bellbottom, sorry but Lori would kick your ass.

[the music isnt' over]

Peace the fuck out, this isnt what this site should be about, why so much fighting about a little truly insignificant substance in the universe?
Go smoke a j or something, you're both sounding like strung out junkies to me, and im hoping you guys aren't.

[RELAYER]

The music is over man, time to go on home.

[LoriBaby]

once again relayer thanks.......and uh it kind of seems like shes all up on ya dick or something......"relayer do u have uh aol so u can cyber Fuck me"
what a twat

[LoriBaby]

Peace the fuck out, this isnt what this site should be about, why so much fighting about a little truly insignificant substance in the universe?
Go smoke a j or something, you're both sounding like strung out junkies to me, and im hoping you guys aren't.
as for you shes on my ignore list now .....

[Maggie Sugar]

No more personal attacks will be tolerated on this thread. Lori, I KNOW you know what you are talking about, I also know you were defending yourself, so I am not gonna bother you. I don't blame you for defending yourself, but let's try to keep it on topic. Okay? Try to keep it a little nicer, Okay? Just ignore it, or defend yourself without the nastiness.

People like bellbottom usually hang themselves if given enough rope. She's banned.

[LoriBaby]

thank you very much, Maggie.....i really wasnt trying to start anything and i have placed her on my ignore list as of yesterday.....im sorry about the language as well.....i guess i just let people get under my skin sometimes u know?

[Maggie Sugar]

I know, people sometimes suck, and it can hurt. I understand why you were upset. Next time I know you can defend yourself without the really personal attack stuff. ;)

I was gonna close the thread, but if y'all want to continue the discussion, please stick to the topic. Carry on, peoples.

Maggie

[RELAYER]

Cool, cuz now I got the 60% thing going in my profile, got to keep this thread alive! But yea, anyway, 60% is where I'm standing on this one. But not from personal experience as in doing the drug, because I've only ever smoked it once, and I felt bad about it, but from what all the people I know who have done or sold it, that is about where they stand.

[LoriBaby]

hahahaha......you always make me smile relayer

[RELAYER]

Thanks, you like the 60% thing? I couldnt think of anything cool to pop in there, so I went with that one. And Bellbottom was starting to scare me, I guess she didnt know that I'm married and have a baby! Oh well.

[2cesarewild]

Wow that shit was crazy. On the up and up, I just saw two hilariously cracked-out individuals on my lunch huddled around a payphone. Fiends are fucked.

[RELAYER]

Yea I just took my lunch and I'm on 60mg of oxy, and I was blasting Tripped out music in my car at a gas station, and a cop came up and told me to leave! What the fuck I usually have great lunch breaks!

[2cesarewild]

Ah you lucky bastid, was supposed to grab a 40 off a buddy who knows a guy with a script this weekend, but something fell through. For some reason, with all the junkies here, I've never encountered somebody who actually slangs em. That's good though cause I like to keep those things a treat I do like once every 6-10 months.

Fucking pigs, they gotta fuck with somebody or they just don't feel right.

[RELAYER]

I know man, they just dont like my tunes ya know? But yea oxy's are ok, I try not to fuck with em too much anymore, but fuck it , if they there I'll take some. Cop's around here suck, probably just like where your at

[LoriBaby]

yeah i totally dig the 60% thing....and i dont know what bells problem was ...she acted like u 2 knew each other or something....btu either way im glad we have equal and fair moderators in here....im glad maggie took the time to actually read my post and understand where i was coming from....i hate trolls and im glad we have good moderators to take care of them

[RELAYER]

Yea I dont know what was up with her, but I am also glad the mods make good desicions around this joint.

[starry]

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http://www.andinareal.com/site/en

[starry]

http://www.enaco.com.pe/
http://www.andinareal.com/site/en
http://www.cocashop.com

Where can I buy some coke in NJ- USA (via mail or delivery. Discreet inquiries only

[RELAYER]

mad gay

[2cesarewild]

LMFAO!!!! wtf?!?!?

[RELAYER]

I dont fuckin know man, very weird though

[RELAYER]

yo check out my post on the hash forum, can you help me out?

[BellBottom]

Geez, I just came back...and look at the debacle.



All I was saying is that H is usually 60 % pure at most. Usually. And Bellbottom, sorry but Lori would kick your ass.
No worries man, we both (and the rest) know what you wrote, just look at my posts that deal with your quote. Someone else is having difficulties here.


And Bellbottom, sorry but Lori would kick your ass.If you say so.

No more personal attacks will be tolerated on this thread. Lori, I KNOW you know what you are talking about, I also know you were defending yourself, so I am not gonna bother you. I don't blame you for defending yourself, but let's try to keep it on topic. Okay? Try to keep it a little nicer, Okay? Just ignore it, or defend yourself without the nastiness.

People like bellbottom usually hang themselves if given enough rope. She's banned.
Hello Maggie, it’s good to see that you take your job as a moderator serious and acknowledged that LoriBaby is allowed to defend herself. However, I really wish you’d grant me the same courtesy by respecting my right to do the same.
I didn’t start all this petty name calling – as a matter of fact, I was the first and only one who even apologized to everyone else, when I finally got a bit aggravated. If you take a look at my very first post in this thread, you’ll notice that if anything, I was rather mildly blunt. Following are the two "horrible" things I wrote that apparently gave LoriBaby the right, or so she thinks, to vigorously attack me:

Quote Bellbottomfarie:
"BULLSHIT! u obviously don't know what ur talking about.",
..."how dum,".

LoriBaby, immediately choosed to resort to incredibly nasty and offensive attacks such as:
“this cunt is trying to tell me”, “u dumb fucking cunt....bell bottom wearing cunt.”, “snot nose bitch”, “i really wish this bitch was still on”.

She even started to stalk and observe me.

You can call me crazy but I don’t see how posting "this or that is dum" could be considered to be personally damaging and offending to the point that this would justify LoriBaby’s outrageous and nasty retorts - even more so since I’ve seen much, muuuuuuuuch worse on this boards which’s been tolerated while moderators were around. I’ve no problem with posting quotes and links from all over these fora in order to prove this (if you want me to do so) and I’m convinced that if we’d search for LoriBaby’s posts, we would find tons and tons of examples where she starts vicious personal attacks and nasty name calling for no reason at all.
In addition, someone else in this thread -"TokeTrip"- called me dumb. Does this give me the right to react as overly nasty as LoriBaby did? No it doesn’t, and this is also the reason why I decided to play it cool.
So why is LoriBaby allowed to do otherwise, that’s a bit of a double standard don’t you think?
Besides, look how I responded to that person and to everyone else....with tact. However, tact is hard to keep up when someone behaves as repulsive and trashy as LoriBaby.
As I said: "at times I tend to speak in a language that people like her can understand".
So you see, it’s actually she who started all this. I just did what she did, only I’m better than her.
Anyway, I thought people on here will get warned or at least get a “temporary” ban if they are considered ban worthy for the first time.

On a side note, it’s also kind of odd that you choosed to delete two of my posts where I actually did apology to everyone else for the foul language.

i really wasnt trying to start anything and i have placed her on my ignore list as of yesterdayOh yeah, she said that the day before that, too.
Look who keeps constantly posting now? I wonder if she feels safe now, I thought she was done with this thread?
The day I will cheer over the fact that my "opponent" was dragged out of a debate which I lost, is the day where I couldn’t bare watching myself in the mirror. Personally, I wouldn’t treat myself that low but I guess people have different standards of self worth.
I wouldn’t be surprised if she actually ran to a moderator (while making up a few lies as it seems to be her usual routine) and reported me.

[BellBottom]

once again relayer thanks.......and uh it kind of seems like shes all up on ya dick or something......"relayer do u have uh aol so u can cyber Fuck me"
what a twatcoming from you this is kinda ironic. and watch your mouth, doll!

edited
And Bellbottom was starting to scare me, I guess she didnt know that I'm married and have a baby! Oh well.aww man,is that the truth? well, stay out of this then.
we exchanged a couple of pms where you said that I'm nice but anyway.

[RELAYER]

wtf??????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????

[RELAYER]

I'm guessing this thread is gonna get closed now. oh well.

[2cesarewild]

Dam I thought I was bad with walking away from an argument lol...

[RELAYER]

She told me to stay out of it? I thought I started the whole thing????? wtf

[LoriBaby]

lmao.........god thats pathetic

[BellBottom]

Keke ke KeKe Ke Kekeke ~LoL~ *clix 10*

if by pathetic you mean your constant barrage of: "I leave", "I'll ignore yous" but obsessively keep on lurking, or maybe your clumsy and stale comebacks, then I agree. It's quite pathetic.

[BoozeJockey]

I'll agree with Lori...

Most street stuff is crap and you wouldn't believe how impure it is...Best i've EVER heard of in person is 70% (melting point tested). I believe that in some incredibly rare instances that the stuff may be more than 70% pure...but like i said, it's incredibly rare. As an organic chemistry student, i can tell you from personal experience that 90% purity of any product is damn hard to get, even in a real lab (who knows how they actually make their stuff...). I'm betting that the 90% is probably the highest purity stuff recovered, and i bet it wasn't on the streets (and if it was, it was probably an accident). I can also tell you that the 90% pure solid salt form (HCl) would be snow white crystals/powder...(i can't speak on the freebase though)

I'll also agree with her that snorting is safer than smoking...As she said, snorting gives a more gradual come down...Smoking you go up fast and you come down fast, and the faster you come down, the more below baseline you go...The shortened duration and peaky nature of the smoking experience naturally gives way to greater consumption, fiending, and addiction. Just look at the difference between a crack head and a powder cocaine person...

[Jennasia]

Holy shit girls, can't we all just get along???

[LoriBaby]

Bravo.......you know i was thinking the same about the diffrence between a cokehead and a crackhead.........their entire mentality is diffrent



I'll agree with Lori...

Most street stuff is crap and you wouldn't believe how impure it is...Best i've EVER heard of in person is 70% (melting point tested). I believe that in some incredibly rare instances that the stuff may be more than 70% pure...but like i said, it's incredibly rare. As an organic chemistry student, i can tell you from personal experience that 90% purity of any product is damn hard to get, even in a real lab (who knows how they actually make their stuff...). I'm betting that the 90% is probably the highest purity stuff recovered, and i bet it wasn't on the streets (and if it was, it was probably an accident). I can also tell you that the 90% pure solid salt form (HCl) would be snow white crystals/powder...(i can't speak on the freebase though)

I'll also agree with her that snorting is safer than smoking...As she said, snorting gives a more gradual come down...Smoking you go up fast and you come down fast, and the faster you come down, the more below baseline you go...The shortened duration and peaky nature of the smoking experience naturally gives way to greater consumption, fiending, and addiction. Just look at the difference between a crack head and a powder cocaine person...

[BellBottom]

I'll agree with Lori...

Most street stuff is crap and you wouldn't believe how impure it is...Actually yeah, MOST street stuff is indeed of bad quality, I don’t think anyone would argue this. I don’t see where you’re coming from though, since I don’t recall that I claimed otherwise. As far as I’m concerned I thought everyone was talking about the highest measured purity. LoriBaby claimed (or agreed) in her first reply to this, that heroin is "at best" 60% pure, which simply isn’t true as I’ve pointed out several times before. Her own limited personal experinces are soley a matter of opinion and have no validation for the entire country. Not to sound redundant or repitetive but there’s a difference between a discussion about the median (the average quality) and a debate about the highest purity. I don’t see how this could cause anyone confusion other than LoriBaby.

...Best i've EVER heard of in person is 70% (melting point tested). I believe that in some incredibly rare instances that the stuff may be more than 70% pure...but like i said, it's incredibly rare. As an organic chemistry student, i can tell you from personal experience that 90% purity of any product is damn hard to get, even in a real lab (who knows how they actually make their stuff...). I'm betting that the 90% is probably the highest purity stuff recovered, and i bet it wasn't on the streets (and if it was, it was probably an accident). I can also tell you that the 90% pure solid salt form (HCl) would be snow white crystals/powder...(i can't speak on the freebase though)One, again personal experience and opinions mean nothing when it comes to statistical research. Yes, the substance in question was street material and No the recorded 90% purity wasn’t an accident because that’s the point of statistical, empirical researches - sorting out measure failures ("accidents") and provide valid observations/results that one can work with. So seeing this, I don’t think 90% is as "incredibly" rare as you try to make it out to be, maybe just a bit unusual (Keep in mind we are talking about the whole U.S.).

Two, Yes I rather believe nationwide launched scientific researches of health organisations than what some kids on a message boards heard of, believe in or think.

I’ll also agree with her that snorting is safer than smoking...As she said snorting gives a more gradual come down...Smoking you go up fast and you come down fast and the faster you come down, the more below baseline you go...The shortend duration and peaky nature of the smoking experiences naturally gives way to greater consumption, fiending, and addiction.I don’t don’t know why you think that "snorting gives a more gradual come down", for all I know the comedown is the same whether you smoke or snort heroin. Even though smoking h will get you faster high....it’s only by a few minutes. So I don’t think that a couple of minutes time difference will effect the comedown much. However those same few minutes can safe your life when it come to overdosage. Why else should almost every health organisation tell you that smoking heroin is safer. I even provided a link to website that’s dedicated to heroin usage and it’s dangers, where they explicity said that smoking heroin is safer than snorting it.

Just look at the difference between a crackhead and a powder cocaine person. I don't think that this is a good analogy, heroin and cocaine are not much alike. Cocaine has to be "cooked" with amoniac (sp) or baking soda before it becomes smokeable...crack cocaine or freebase is not the same like "powder cocaine". I think this progress alters the substance a lot.
From what I've read crack is a lot stronger than street powder cocaine.

[2cesarewild]

jesus... 'powder' cocaine is a salt, 'crack' is a crude form of freebase cocaine. Smoking crack is like taking a snorted cocaine high but mad times more intense and very short duration.
Can't believe this thread is still going. Someone should take that china white, and jab the syringe right into my throat for me, to cope with this sad state of affairs.

[RELAYER]

hahahaha fuck this thread is stupid as shit, well besides my 60% comment, other than that it's pretty pointless. ANd yea coke is more like flying, and crack is more like a rocket ship.

[BellBottom]

I agree, I'm just glad that LoriBaby finally realized her own inadequaties and stopped posting under that nick.
I mean what do you expect from someone who can't differentiate between Colombia and the Columbia University.

Someone had to teach her a lesson.

[RELAYER]

I think, now I very well may be wrong, but I think the word is inadequacies

[LSDPsychonaut]

well u cant snort tar....and smoking it is useless
so the best way with tar is mainlining..........and of course u dont want that

i truly dont know about tar though .....i live close to wilmington which is a major heroin city in NC and ive never seen it here
But isn't mainlining it the only way to really get your money's worth?