If Abbie Hoffman were alive today...

[Templedragon]

He would be Flabby Hoffman!

[carpet cleaner]

steal this doughnut?

[carpet cleaner]

He would be a republican.

[tuatara]

he would be 70 this year but he definitely wouldn't be a republican

[IronGoth]

He'd be a Republican.

He'd also sue anyone who tried to remind him he once was a kiddie diddler who supported NAMBLA.

[drew172]

I actually wonder sometimes what he would really think of our society today. So much has changed since he was in action and since his suicide. I really doubt that he would look at the world and think that it's current condition was inevitable. The things out there today are constantly poisoning our environment, politics, bodies and minds. Our consumerist culture has only expanded in the last 2 decades and continues to grow because of the media's influences, which are destroying the kinds of values that people like him held close during the sixties and early seventies. What we need now is people to rise up again from these corporations and corruptions and get the messages out like he worked so hard to do. Some wouldn't say that he did a helluva lot for society's views but I sure like to believe he did!

Alrite, that was a bit of a ramble, and I got off what I was trying to say...

I just think that if he were still alive today, he would not just sit back and watch the news that we do, he would be in the news, getting the messages out and trying once more to make a differance in the way we view our world.

[Templedragon]

A republican? Based on what... your fowl mood or shallow ignorance?

When Abbie Hoffman died (some believe he killed himself) he was anything but a republican. He had a best selling book out (Steal This urine Test), and he had mellowed ot a lot, and being Abbie Hoffman, the famous radical, he could afford to.

If Abbie Hoffman were alive today, at 70 years old, you can almost guarantee that he would not be out radicalizing and doing the Barnum and Bailey theatrics that made him famous, because people change with age. They season, mellow, get a deeper and broader perspective.

As for the republican stuff, and the nambla reference, it is all so juvenile and moronic that...well... why should I even continue?

Abbie Lives!!!

[carpet cleaner]

A republican? Based on what... your fowl mood or shallow ignorance?

When Abbie Hoffman died (some believe he killed himself) he was anything but a republican. He had a best selling book out (Steal This urine Test), and he had mellowed ot a lot, and being Abbie Hoffman, the famous radical, he could afford to.

If Abbie Hoffman were alive today, at 70 years old, you can almost guarantee that he would not be out radicalizing and doing the Barnum and Bailey theatrics that made him famous, because people change with age. They season, mellow, get a deeper and broader perspective.

As for the republican stuff, and the nambla reference, it is all so juvenile and moronic that...well... why should I even continue?

Abbie Lives!!!At least I didn't call him fat.

[pieman]

abbie would never be a repukelikkkan

[earthmother]

If Abbie Hoffman were alive today, at 70 years old, you can almost guarantee that he would not be out radicalizing and doing the Barnum and Bailey theatrics that made him famous, because people change with age. They season, mellow, get a deeper and broader perspective.


They do? Only speaking from experience: We acted, we saw some change, we "dropped out" and sat back watching the rest of the world go by as we worked on ourselves, learned to survive, grew a garden, and raised our families. We watched from the bleachers and saw energy fade to apathy, we witness the world falling apart a piece at a time, and now, older and wiser, we want to creat change ALL OVER AGAIN, but this time a more spectacular one. The only thing lacking is the spokespeople. The ones who follow in the footsteps. The NEW ones in the news. I know they're out there somewhere. It IS time. It could be anybody, maybe YOU? :X

[carpet cleaner]

and jerry will never be a wall street exutive.Let's give the dead a chance to make up their own minds.None of us can really say one way or the other.

[THUDLY]

Thank God he is dead--such a fool!

[gate68]

Thank God he is dead--such a fool!When's your turn?

[shameless_heifer]

A lot of us were 'taken out' to stop us from spreading the message. There were also a lot that surcomed to the pressure and ust simply wanted off the bus, or came so close to narvana that they decided not to come back.
They took it as far as they could, it takes a lot of energy to change a nation, or a world. We faught with every fiber of our being. The Abby Hoffmans, the Tim Learys, even the Emmitt Grogans-Kenny Wisdoms. All of us right down to the street hippies taking blows from the Man.
With ur babies coming we had to get them out of the line of fire. We spread out to the country where we could live off the land and raise our children and teach them the way of Love and Peace.
Abby would for sure be in the country on a farm away from all the BS of politacial mish mash. He would be writing more books to help guide the youth of our country away from war and greed.
I believe that our heros from the 60-70s went as far as they could go. They learned so much and lived so hard and fast because they had so little time to get the message out the window before it closed with the ears of our young ones coming up behind.
Listen to EM's wise words. She like a lot of us here has 'been there and done that and have the t-shirt to prove it'.
Abby was nobodys fool. We all find out the Truth when it's all said and done. Chose your words wisely as not to tred heavily on someones grave.
May Peace and Love be your strength
sh

[SLOTH]

My God and Jesus!
You Two Woman
Shameless_Hefier and Earthmother
are still blessed with the insight and words
that make people listen~
You can't imaging how much you both have inspired me~
How much I consider you my mentors~
How much I value and treasure your friendship
and all that you have brought to the hippie forum and to my life~
Keep it going girls~
We are not licked yet!!!
Carol~

[shameless_heifer]

Hey Carol,
We teach as well as learn, we learn everyday.. our message is as strong as it ever was..we are still toughing out hoping for the sun to shine on all mankind and peace rain high. We still hold our Freak Flags High and wave them as we boldly go forward.
We stand here in our tye-dyes with our hearts reaching out to the Likeminded. We come to comfort and share what we have gained in knowledge and love. We scream it with our refusal to bow down to any Man/Woman and keep the faith that we were honored to hold and to pass on as the firestick burns brightly showing the way.
Abby carried the fire as long as he could.. he Was a human being with all the frailities of what that brings. The strenght it took for him and ones like him to step up to the plate and take a swing is the kind of courage that motivated others into thinking and doing for themselves. One at a time joining together we will concure the Beast.
sh

[gate68]

Then there was my buddy wino.All he did was get drunk.Spent some time in Folsom.Probably there now if he ain't dead.Didn't give a shit about you or me.All he wanted was to his personal freedom and the right to be a fuckup.He was good at it too.Who knows where Abbie'd be today,time and cosmos have a way of changing everyone.Good morning ladies...

[shameless_heifer]

GM Gate,
WE all fuck up, that's how we learn. But the ones of us that are left that did survive have a foot in the door. We at least acknowledge the need for change and the need for Unity. We come here seeking it and giving it to reach more and more of us. Some of us choose not to see, it's to hard to open ones eyes and not see the pain and suffering of humanity. Some choose to drown the pain. Some decide to end it, some carry on with the firestick. We each have our own path to follow.
Blessed Be
sh

[tuatara]

i grew up a few miles from where abbie grew up .........the great big changes that they tried to bring about were done in some ways ..a lot of the laws were softened and if you look at today ..some things that would have put you in jail for a long time are now not even looked at ...there have been changes but not enough yet ..

[SLOTH]

:Amen to that!

[pieman]

hey abbie still lives in our hearts!!!

[OnlyOne]

Whateverz, I am THE ONLY hIPPY.

[OnlyOne]

nice azzhole, but not hipp, just anuder nuttered shorthair, pussy whooped, vuked in duh ass jewboy.

[hippiestead]

Whether you agree with Abbie or not, he and many other counter-culture heros promoted many ideas which shaped the world we live in today.

[OnlyOne]

Whateverz, vuk that fat vuk pie eater, I am the only Hip hipy.

[hippiestead]

Thank you Shameless, for removing those posts. we couldn't sit back & let a good friend get harrassed like that.

(we put our appreciation on this post to clear the vibe in here. :) )

[shameless_heifer]

Take a hint jailmate.. stay out of here.. I'll delete your every post.
SH

[OnlyOne]

gee teacher did Ih say sunthin wrong.

[shameless_heifer]

It's cool Hippiestead.. He's outta here.. I'm sorry there are ones out there that have no cool, that just want to start trouble.
I don't know what else to do but delete their posts.
sh

[shameless_heifer]

don't start no shit and there will be no shit!!

[hippiestead]

don't start no shit and there will be no shit!!
& remember, Wavy says 'You aren't what you eat....you are what you don't shit out!' ;) ;)

[OnlyOne]

man you got bulls?

[THUDLY]

Did I evah tell ya I ate breakfast with Wavy Gravy (Hugh Romney) and A.J.Weberman (the Dylanologist and Garbologist who got punched out by his subject) at a greasy spoon across from Tompkins Square in 1967? No? Well, A.J. was my friend (still is!) but Wavy didn't impress me a bit. He had the counter-culture con going just right: hell, he made a career out of it.


Remember what Peter Towmsend of WHO did to the nitwit at Woodstock.

All these legendary hippies that you mention, yes I knew them, they're quite tame-- I have to re-arrange their faces and pretend that they ain't lame.

[shameless_heifer]

There is nothing new under the sun...
All our leaders/elders have taken us as far as they could go. They themselves surcomed to their own human condition. Most everyone of them OD or took their own life someway.

When I got to the Haight in 66 it was dwindling down. Drugs had concured the minds of our spokepersons and they went to a place where Ego rains supreme. The men sucomed to the young girls with eye shinning in awe at the great leaders of Hippiedom. The lines of groupies throwing themselves at their feet in acid induced trances, mindless of what was happening to them.
13 year olds being passed around in inisciation(sp) to dope fucked to say no or even care. Our fearless leaders injecting heroin into virgin veins of the children robing them of their youth and innocents. While the women cleaned up the mess and raised the multiude of fatherless babies they were left to attend.
If the truth were known and you ask the women of that era most of them would have a different slant on just how cool and groovie it was to be left with broken promises and shattered dreams beliving the lies of men.
The temptation was too great. There were no presidence to follow, just make it up as you go.
Everyone laid them down with unlimited supplies of any and every drug imagainable, a durg smorgishborg to cloud their judgement and reasoning abilities.
They lost their souls to greed and lust. They became as corrupt as the ones we were fighting against. They were only human, not gods, they held no special powers nor did they invent revalution, it's been here since mankind became disgruntled over injustice.
I think the message is what is important and not the man hisself.
They were but flesh and bone as we all are. The mind is willing but the flesh is weak. I don't believe any one man/woman possecess unltimate knowledge on any given subject. I believe we find our strenght in Unity and Community.If it takes a village to raise a child, what would it take to raise a nation.
sh

[gate68]

Well,well said.Power corrupts,no matter who it is.

[sprout]

Mashuganah!

[hippiestead]

When I got to the Haight in 66 it was dwindling down. Drugs had concured the minds of our spokepersons and they went to a place where Ego rains supreme. The men sucomed to the young girls with eye shinning in awe at the great leaders of Hippiedom. The lines of groupies throwing themselves at their feet in acid induced trances, mindless of what was happening to them.
13 year olds being passed around in inisciation(sp) to dope fucked to say no or even care. Our fearless leaders injecting heroin into virgin veins of the children robing them of their youth and innocents. While the women cleaned up the mess and raised the multiude of fatherless babies they were left to attend.
If the truth were known and you ask the women of that era most of them would have a different slant on just how cool and groovie it was to be left with broken promises and shattered dreams beliving the lies of men.
The temptation was too great. There were no presidence to follow, just make it up as you go.
Everyone laid them down with unlimited supplies of any and every drug imagainable, a durg smorgishborg to cloud their judgement and reasoning abilities.
They lost their souls to greed and lust. They became as corrupt as the ones we were fighting against. They were only human, not gods, they held no special powers nor did they invent revalution, it's been here since mankind became disgruntled over injustice.
I think the message is what is important and not the man hisself.
They were but flesh and bone as we all are. The mind is willing but the flesh is weak. I don't believe any one man/woman possecess unltimate knowledge on any given subject. I believe we find our strenght in Unity and Community.If it takes a village to raise a child, what would it take to raise a nation.
sh
Cinnamon of the Hippiestead here. Reading over this post of Shameless Heifer's, a passage that I wrote in a fictional novel came to mind. In my book, one of the Pranksters is talking to a teen and the Prankster is telling it like it was:

"Looking back at the acid test days, I feel like we might have made some mistakes, sometimes things got out of hand. Then again, we were trying to push the boundries of reality." "Most of my generation was brought up to conform with society; girls were expected to become wives and mothers; men were the breadwinners and the rulers of the roost. It was hard to break away from those standards, even in the hip community. The guys expected us chicks to cook and clean, to care for the children. Lots of the time, stuff just didn't get done, we were too stoned to care. Luckily, at some point, most of us grew up a bit and got it together."

When the teen askes if there were a time machine would the Prankster change anything...the Prankster replies:

"Well, there isn't a time machine and even if there were, I wouldn't want to take a chance of changing anything. We unlocked the doors of cosmic consciousness in the sixties. Maybe the keys were rusty but they worked and a lot of good things came from opening those doors. The keys for your generation aren't as rusty; you just need to keep them polished for the next generation."

The conversation in my book goes on to talk about all the things that have grown from generations of flower children...enivironmental awareness, equality for all people, community interaction of all kinds.

Guess what I'm really trying to say is that while the 60's weren't all sunshine & roses, sooooo many good things have grown out of that era.

[darkside]

Like to drift in on occasion and see how the good people are doing. It helps ease my mind. There's always bad with the good. The essence of the time and era was pure and good. We were so close to that world that we could almost touch and breathe it in. It just wasn't truly it's time. It just was not yet to be. That seed got planted though and at some point and time when the time is right that seedling will break through and a mighty tree will grow. That train is acomin'.




Keep the Love.

[Templedragon]

Like to drift in on occasion and see how the good people are doing. It helps ease my mind. There's always bad with the good. The essence of the time and era was pure and good. We were so close to that world that we could almost touch and breathe it in. It just wasn't truly it's time. It just was not yet to be. That seed got planted though and at some point and time when the time is right that seedling will break through and a mighty tree will grow. That train is acomin'. Keep the Love.

Wow, what a beautiful way of putting it. You must be really cool.

All of you make very valid points. Well, I guess not everybody did, as someone got deleted.

I feel that there is always injustice, ingorance, ego, manipulation and power over by the powerful, just as there is always beauty, nurturing, discovery, and redemption. It is life.

The very valid point that Shameless made a while back in the thread referring to the way that women were sometimes victimized in a cultural sense is noteworthy. But even still, I think a lot of the advancement that has taken place in society since then is on the back of the sixties counter-culture.

Abbie Hoffman accused the goverbment of being exactly that which is has been exposed to be now. Partly evil, corrupt, corporate, militaristic, murderous, impersonal. He stood up to the dominant power paradigm and called out the bullshit in a way that garnered media attention.

I will always respect that. It makes me wanna stand up and yell...

Yippie!

[THUDLY]

Ah, Hippiestead---your term, a "fictional novel", is redundant.


Shameless heifer was for sure there... I've been saying the same goddamn thing for 37 years, but nobody wanted to hear it.

Vote Republican.

[OnlyOne]

vuk all yoh old suicidal fuulz, get hi stay hip, an believe me.

[shameless_heifer]

Graduating from the school of hard knocks, I have come to relize that is impossible to Love everyone... one has their limits.
The most vaulable lessons I have brought from my 'Time in the Haight' is.. To Thine Own Self Be True. Do what you will, but harm none. Think for yourself and follow your gut instint..
There were some truely fine men back in the day and I must give them their due. The ones that held fast to their values and provided a home and sustanance to their families. Most of whom moved out of the cities and relocated to the safty and peace of the country. They are the ones that have paved the way for freedom of choice, by living what they preach. To get Back to the Garden.
sh

[tuatara]

Graduating from the school of hard knocks, I have come to relize that is impossible to Love everyone... one has their limits.
The most vaulable lessons I have brought from my 'Time in the Haight' is.. To Thine Own Self Be True. Do what you will, but harm none. Think for yourself and follow your gut instint..
There were some truely fine men back in the day and I must give them their due. The ones that held fast to their values and provided a home and sustanance to their families. Most of whom moved out of the cities and relocated to the safty and peace of the country. They are the ones that have paved the way for freedom of choice, by living what they preach. To get Back to the Garden.
sh i'm one of the ones who moved out of the city to the peace and tranquility of the countryside to raise a family ........glad i did ........as far as it is impossible to love everybody it it way easier not to HATE anyone ..that has been my motto in life and let me tell you it is so much easier to go through life not having hate burn up your guts and peace of mind

[hippiestead]

[QUOTE=THUDLY]Ah, Hippiestead---your term, a "fictional novel", is redundant.


QUOTE]

so it is; not enough caffine, I suppose.....

Cinnamon

[Templedragon]

Graduating from the school of hard knocks, I have come to relize that is impossible to Love everyone... one has their limits.
sh
No it is not impposible to love everyone, many people have achieved that. It is not about everyone else's limits, it is about our own when it comes to that.

Vote Republican? Those two words should never be used together!

Zippity doo dah diddley dee dumdy dum dum~ Zoit!

Pffffft! Shakyamuni! Om Ma Ni Pad Me Hum <<<< ---- <<<<<


Trimple Traggin' Love Ya! - Bomp

[shameless_heifer]

It's a wonder tha any of us made it out alive with all the hostilities that were building within our own Hippie structure. The drugs were taking their toll on our young minds and bodies. Some slipped off into the deep end without ever even knowing it. Everyone was carring a weapon of some sort and the trust that we once held had turned into paranoia. As their tracks got deeper their hearts grew black.

I hate taxes,fire ants and disease but I don't believe I hate any one person. I may hate the things people do, but not the people. I don't even hate George Bush, I hate what he's doing, he's a lost soul but even Bush has Buddah in him. He just don't know it.

I don't spend my time hating the Bushes of the world. Life is too short. I spend time on growing food and beautiful flowers, I spend time making the babies laugh and loving my husband. I spend time wetting a worm and listening to the fish tales of the old men linning the shore catching Crappie and cursing the big one that got away..

If Abbie were alive today, I wonder where he'd be. In the city beating a dead horse or in the country riding a live one instead.

Brightest Blessings
sh

[SLOTH]

Hey there good buddy,
Shameless~
I love that new avator for sure!
Loved your words and play on
them too at the end~
Did you get my pics?
Just sent them to you last night!
Please rsvp me with what you SEE~
Do you know how teepie is doing?
Been sending her PM's without replies~
Could you ask her to e-mail me~
Thanks~

[shameless_heifer]

Hey Carol. there you are.. no I have not recived your eye picture as of yet.. you say you sent them last night?? humm.. they should be here by now.. send them again.. Abbie would...lol..

[SLOTH]

Hey Mary,
I did just re send them to your yahoo e-addy
please let me know when you get them~

[shameless_heifer]

TD,
I think you can lve humanity, but there are gong to be some you just clash with due to chemistry makeup.. some chemicals blend and become more inhanced and some are deadly when mixed.. I find it true however, that everyone has at least one redeaming quaility. Even if that quaility is being hard assed.. it is a type of strenght and strenght is admirable. But to truly LOVE LOVE LOVE everybody you'd have to be Jesus Christ, and most of us are NOT that tolerent. We humans have not eveluted that far yet.
I do think it will happen eventully, but I doubt if it will be in my lifetime.
TD do you love everyone? Now that would include george bush and his minnions. It would also include sadam husane, ben laden, hitler, mussolinni, jack the ripper, hamibal lecter, jeffery dhamer, the oil cartell and all the demons that run this planet.
Where is the love for them and does one waste their loving energies on demons..
If you have the answers to that then please let us in on the mystery of how to accomplish it and still be true to self.
Brightest Blessings
sh

[shameless_heifer]

Hey Carol,
(takes a deep breath).. The pix you sent would not open(my pc is a dinosaur).. could you perhaps post them in The Healing Tree in Personal Forums under the thread, Healing Herbs,Oils & Potions, Where Teepi and Heifers_Calf have posted their eye pix.
It would make it easier for me to look at as my pc will Not open the file.
I do hope you have a lovely weekend with your family dear Carol.
Brightest Blessings
sh

[old tiger]

Shamelesss..
Always a pleasure to read your postings..
well..what will i say..Haight Ashbury wisdomhttp://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif
who can say that??not many..
Great respect for what you try to explain to us here..

tigerhttp://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[THUDLY]

Old Tiger, my man! Things are looking better for me-- the weather has improved so I can get at least 1 or 2 days a week in; I'm getting food stamps and soon will get cash and medicine benefits. Also, my whore cat isn't preggie again (knock on wood!)


I want to send you something in return for the 10 Euro note you mailed me, but your handwriting is big-time difficult to decipher-- you speak American fine, but your printing is archaic or just stylized. Send me a PM and print your address and I'll return the favor. Thanks, pal. Burl

[shameless_heifer]

Brightest Blessings Old Tiger, so nice to see you. I hope you are well. Everyone paints such a pretty picture of The Haight Ashbury sceen, but there was a deep dark side of it also, as in everything else under the sun.

Burl, why don't you have your whore cat fixed and settle the problem from now on. I think they have 'clinics' where you don't have to pay.. check with your local SPCA and see if they are having one in your area soon.

[THUDLY]

Well, ShamelessYoungFemaleCattle That Has Never Been Bred-- (That's what a heifer is!), there are no free places to get these cats de-nutted or de-ovaried around here. I'm just such a pussy: I should just kill them all--that would solve it. FUCK IT! THEY HAVE TO LIVE, TOO, and I must have to deal with it. (These were drop-offs-- I never asked for them.) I have been stern in the past with men--many drunken fights--, but I have never instigated any.

I love SH, ANGEL, and myself. (And, of course, you meanies-- my estatic and irritating felines!) (And, my children-- BUT NOT THEIR RIDICULOUS PETS!

SNAHHHHHH!

[THUDLY]

I've always loved "shameless sluts" (or, whores, trollops, hussies, twat-queens, monster-gashes---all these ultimate words of fuckstick, bed-room cunt-pounding delicate love.


Wasn't it great in those days?

Signed-- A true romantic.

[teepi]

Hi Mr. Romance......thats all I got...

[earthmother]

"YoungFemaleCattle That Has Never Been Bred-- (That's what a heifer is!)"


Not exactly, It's just a young female cow. You can have things like "first calf heifers". And it ain't immaculate conception!

[shameless_heifer]

lol..now that's funny..nothin' immaculate about me.. or shameless for that matter.. Where in some parts of the country one would call a GF a beotch, or something o that nature, here we oft' use the term Heifer in the same way.
At times I can be a bit outspoken and a gf of mine use to call me shameless heifer and it became my handle as at that time I was rasing calves so shameless_heifer it was.
I hope I have never given the impression of being anything like what Burl has decribed above. If I have please shoot me now..
sh

[Templedragon]

Shameless, although I do very much know it is possible to love the spirit in everyone and still have no love at all for the actions of those dark hearted and ingnorant humans who commit demonic evil, I feel that I apparently owe you an apology.

I grew up in the 1960s, I am a little younger than you, and I had an entirely different experience than the one I see you write about sometimes. But that is the nature of life, I think. I am in no way qualified to instruct anyone on the art of unconditional love for all people, I just know it can be achieved. Me? I have trouble loving the person who cuts me off in traffic, let alone my enemy. But I am trying.

I meant no disrespect, and humbly submit to fall on my nerf sword and maybe even throw meself in front of a parked car or two. I personally am trying to evolve to a point where i can evolve some more. That should keep me busy for a while.

I send you all blessings, and wish you much peace and happiness.
Happy Trailmix, TD

[shameless_heifer]

Way to go Tuatara,
I give thanks that some of our culture did not surcumb to the temptations of evil and greed.
In all my years in the Haight, and all the people I knew back then. I only know 1 couple that is still together and that's Bernerd and Judy. They were very cool people and did a lot for me and my boy Jomie. ( if your listening I love you guys and thank you from the bottom of my heart).

I had to get back to The Garden.. I was in danger of losing my soul to the drug demon.
I was rowdy and ten feet tall. I wasn't caring a gun, but I did have a switchblade in my pocket and had used it.
I didn't like the badass me that I was becoming. I was a Flower Child. I was on a quest to find GOD and found the devil instead. But facing the demon opened my eyes and I got the hell outta me. I changed my mind and took a left turn and got back on my path. I belive that I would be dead by now if I would have contenued on the path i was traveling. My babies saved me. My love for them overpowered any demon that challenged me. I laid the drugs down before they took my soul. It wasn't hard. I had so much to replace them with. The love of my family is worth far more than being a drug addict any day of the week. Some learn in life some learn in death. Life is better.
Brightest Blesings
sh

[shameless_heifer]

TD Bless your heart,
Fall on no nerf sword for me goodfellow, I do not require it.
If in fact we are here to learn then I believe the harder the lesson the stronger the learning. You have not offended me kind sir. I apperciate the offer tho.. thank you .
Brightest Blessings
sh

[OnlyOne]

go home 2 texass fuul.

[shameless_heifer]

I am in texas, so who's the fool here?!?, dont start no shit with me dude. who in their right mind let you back in. Keep up your bullshit and I will personnaly have you banned!!! Be Gone, pesky germ, biomutant woman hater.. You are not welcome here. Go annoy someone elses thread. Or better yet move to Iraq when woman haters are appreciated.
sh

[tuatara]

Way to go Tuatara,
I give thanks that some of our culture did not surcumb to the temptations of evil and greed.
In all my years in the Haight, and all the people I knew back then. I only know 1 couple that is still together and that's Bernerd and Judy. They were very cool people and did a lot for me and my boy Jomie. ( if your listening I love you guys and thank you from the bottom of my heart).

I had to get back to The Garden.. I was in danger of losing my soul to the drug demon.
I was rowdy and ten feet tall. I wasn't caring a gun, but I did have a switchblade in my pocket and had used it.
I didn't like the badass me that I was becoming. I was a Flower Child. I was on a quest to find GOD and found the devil instead. But facing the demon opened my eyes and I got the hell outta me. I changed my mind and took a left turn and got back on my path. I belive that I would be dead by now if I would have contenued on the path i was traveling. My babies saved me. My love for them overpowered any demon that challenged me. I laid the drugs down before they took my soul. It wasn't hard. I had so much to replace them with. The love of my family is worth far more than being a drug addict any day of the week. Some learn in life some learn in death. Life is better.
Brightest Blesings
shfunny how people think riches come from money .if that is true i am poor .....but if one counts friends ,family,health and one's ability to surmount all adversities i am one ofthe riches persons you will ever know ........while i may not have met abbie ,i still to this day think that he was right ........whether some people thought he was a self promoting person or not .........i hope the world breeds more abbies

[THUDLY]

Isn't a "female cow" redundant? I was raised on a farm, too, and a heifer is a cow that has never had young--look it up.


Actually, we had 60 head of sheep and if God put anything dumber with four legs on this earth , I don't know what it is. Even a goddamned possum can feed itself. To this day, I won't eat lamb or mutton; it makes me ill to smell it. Jesus, I hated those fucking no-brain, B.B.-shitting , stinking, escape-artists. The fuckers would eat nightshade and die, stand in a herd, not running, while dogs ate them alive, get loose in the middle of the night so I had to herd them home. The goddamn rams would try to kill us, the ewes would keep us up in the middle of the winter birthing, every spring we had to dock tails and de-nut the rams-- AND THE WHOLE FUCKING TIME THEY HAD THAT SHEEPY-STENCH OOZING FROM THEM!

Thank God every one I ever knew is long dead! Would that their memories were too.

[earthmother]

Isn't a "female cow" redundant? I was raised on a farm, too, and a heifer is a cow that has never had young--look it up.


Actually, we had 60 head of sheep and if God put anything dumber with four legs on this earth , I don't know what it is. Even a goddamned possum can feed itself. To this day, I won't eat lamb or mutton; it makes me ill to smell it. Jesus, I hated those fucking no-brain, B.B.-shitting , stinking, escape-artists. The fuckers would eat nightshade and die, stand in a herd, not running, while dogs ate them alive, get loose in the middle of the night so I had to herd them home. The goddamn rams would try to kill us, the ewes would keep us up in the middle of the winter birthing, every spring we had to dock tails and de-nut the rams-- AND THE WHOLE FUCKING TIME THEY HAD THAT SHEEPY-STENCH OOZING FROM THEM!

Thank God every one I ever knew is long dead! Would that their memories were too.

Must be something to do with what part of the farming community your'e from. My dad always called them first calf heifers, and in the sale papers, and at the livestock sales that's what they called them too. There even appears to be such a thing as a SECOND calf heifer in those parts...

Oh, and you forgot SHEEP LICE. And fishing the bitches out of the multiflora rose bushes when they get all tangled up... And standing out in the rain getting pneumonia when they could be in the barn if they weren't so DAMN stupid!

[THUDLY]

Yeah, probably a local thing, but I'm going to check the dictionary anyway.BTW, speaking of sheep my friend's father was almost killed by a ram. He was in his late 70's, fixing fence by himself in the winter,when a ram knocked him down and broke his leg. My friend was at a wedding reception when his mother called. He found his dad trying to crawl through the pasture in the cold. After he accompanied his dad to the hospital, he went home and shot the ram. He should have shot the whole goddamn shebang--the wool isn't worth squat-- but he makes too much money selling the male lambs to the local Greeks who eat them at Easter.

[gate68]

Yeah, probably a local thing, but I'm going to check the dictionary anyway.BTW, speaking of sheep my friend's father was almost killed by a ram. He was in his late 70's, fixing fence by himself in the winter,when a ram knocked him down and broke his leg. My friend was at a wedding reception when his mother called. He found his dad trying to crawl through the pasture in the cold. After he accompanied his dad to the hospital, he went home and shot the ram. He should have shot the whole goddamn shebang--the wool isn't worth squat-- but he makes too much money selling the male lambs to the local Greeks who eat them at Easter.Went head to head with one when i was 5,left a circuler ring on my forehead with a lotta little bumps from where his antlers had been cut off,then there was the time i was kicked by an ostrach...how many of you can say that?

[earthmother]

Not I. I ate ostrich burgers once tho. And chased a pair of emus with the car. Boy, they're fast, and stupid too. They would NOT get out from in front of the car, just ran down the middle of the road for almost a half mile...
Been stepped on by a horse, chased out of the pasture by a bull. Attacked by roosters, geese, and turkeys. Spit on by a llama. "Ridden" by a cow in heat, and pissed on by billy goats. AND broke a 2x4 over a rams head one time, then ran like hell... Fuck a bunch of farmin'... I made a Tee shirt that said that on it, with a picture of a farmer on a stump doin' the wild thing with the sheep...

I suppose Abbey would have liked this conversation.

[SLOTH]

Heyu Hippiestead:
That pic of the bus is the coolest~
Man does it remind me of the good old days!

Patsy~
Like always~
You are the best and
I Luv Ya~

[THUDLY]

Just a reminder Gate68--sheep have horns, they're permanent; deer have antlers, they shed them every spring.


Baa, baa, black sheep, have you any.... Thudly leans over the fence...BOOM! Silence in the pasture.

[gate68]

Just a reminder Gate68--sheep have horns, they're permanent; deer have antlers, they shed them every spring.


Baa, baa, black sheep, have you any.... Thudly leans over the fence...BOOM! Silence in the pasture.i knew i'd get that wrong'oh well.It still hurt.
Our emu died on our front porch waiting for my wife to get home.Just sat there and fried.Then our pot bellied would get real friendly when her time of the month came around.Then there was my daaaad(ol farmer joke).

[THUDLY]

Thass alright, Gate-- we all make mistakes. For example, I once thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.