rangerdanger's Guide To Guerilla Growing

[rangerdanger]

Class Come To Order

As promised, rangerdanger is here to give you step-by-step instructions on growing boxfuls of phat sticky buds.



Lesson One

Rent the flick Homegrown, starring Billy Bob Thornton & Hank Azaria. It’s a great movie all about guerilla growing.

AND

Go here and read this:



And right now is a great time of year to buy hiking boots. You’ll also need a frame backpack and a hiking guide (buy at a sporting goods shop).

Look through it.

You’ll also need a army surplus-type folding shovel.

Also, start saving up seeds. It’s nice to have seeds from killer strains, but even if it’s mids, that better than none.

And know this: the pot you harvest later this year will be better than the pot the seeds it came from.

Cause you will take better care of it, and plus YOU grew it.



Start saving your dough. It will cost approx. $10.00 per plant in potting soil and a couple bux for nutrients later in the growing season.



Now comes the dicey part.

Only if you have a friend you trust implicitly and is like your best bud, have a partner.

It makes it easier take care of cause pot needs water every 3 days. If it doesn’t rain, you have to bring them water. So if you and your partner take turns, you’ll only have to go out every 6 days.

But it has to be someone reliable, someone who doesn’t mind working a $100.00/hr. part-time job, someone who can keep their trap shut.

TELL NO ONE ELSE.



So that’s it until in the next week or 2.

[40oz and chronic]

Go here and read this:

theres nothing there....edit it please :) and thanx for all this info i deffinatly need it for this summer/fall or next

[rangerdanger]

I had a long in formative post at another site but I just checked and it's no longer there.

I think I have it saved on one of my hard drives but I'll have to check around for awhile, or re-write it.

[steffan]

start them indoors, move them outside as soon as the nights get over 60. plant them in sunny areas, move them onto west facing hill, or perferbaly cliff sides before fall to speed up budding

[WayfaringStranger]

you can make clones indooors, and if you dont move them out until late in the season, july/august they will be short and virtually undetectable. a creative person might try floating them on standing water that has some movement or circulation, to avoid the watering part.

[steffan]

theres always the old two gallon container trick,, just pock a small hole in the bottum and it will slowly leach out, takes days
you can also just plant them a bit downsteam and run a small syphin line

[MikeE]

TELL NO ONE ELSE.
Not even the deer? Or is that in the next lesson?

[rangerdanger]

Growing Marijuana Guerilla Style



If you don’t like the idea of hiking miles on a hot dusty trail while your friends are partying at the beach, read no further.

If you don’t have the inclination to dig holes (very hard) and transport potting soil (very heavy), go play a video game.

If you can’t commit to a project that lasts 7 months, beat it.



Now that we’ve gotten rid of the riff-raff…

Those of you still here may be interested in growing massive quantities of quality bud for just a few bucks.

That’s where I come in.

Cause I can help you.

In fact, if you follow my instructions, you will have more weed that you’ve ever had before, and it will be the best pot you’ve ever smoked.

Honest.

I’ve been doing this for a long time, and have talked to many other growers, and here you have over a century’s experience in guerilla growing in an easy-to-read format, for free.



This week’s topic is choosing a location Pt 1.

Think remote.

More remote than you’ve ever been.

Somewhere NO ONE EVER GOES.

EVER.

The best way to find one of these locations is to walk yourself down to the nearest large sporting goods store and purchase a trail guide to the nearest Nat’l Forest etc. It wmay have a title like “100 Hikes In The Angeles”.

You and your partner (see earlier post for choosing a partner).start scouring the trails listed. You want to pick a trail that DOES NOT connect with other trails. This cuts down on hikers.



Points:

-Read the first part of the hiking guide. It usually tells you about history, flora and fauna, do’s and don’ts and local restrictions.



-You’ll want to choose a trail that crosses a stream, because you’re gonna have to water your plants. A 7’ tall plant in full veg requires a gal of water at least 2 x/week and water weighs 8.5 lbs/gal. When it doesn’t rain you’ll have to bring water to them so you’ll want a nearby water source.



AND, read a growbook, cover to cover.



I’ll be back.

[rangerdanger]

P.S. You shoud know this:

I'm a crotchedy old man, and if you deciede to join you must do as I say.
You shouldn't take some of my suggestions and mix them with someone else suggestions. You might not end up with anything at all.
Everything will be fine if you JUST FOLLOW ORDERS!!!

[bUrNEd_oUt420]

no new posts?????

[meangreen]

All the info needed at this time is available,the tasks at hand for this time have been given.

[rangerdanger]

This is the most important factor in guerilla growing.
It doesn't matter how many plants of what strain you have growing if someone finds them and rips you off.
Remoteness in most cases is key.

Don't stroll into the woods for a few minutes and expect to find a place to successfully grow/harvest marijuana. Too many people poking around.
Hike deep deep into the wodds--I suggest AT LEAST an hour's hike on an unpopular trail before you start looking (the further the better).

Look for
-a clearing off the trail, the further the better
-seek an area that you don't mind if you have to carry up to a gal./water to the plants 2x/week.
-good southern exposure
-a way to get in and out WITHOUT leaving a path off the trail.

It's a good also a good idea to have multiple patches of weed if you want to increase your chances of harvesting mondo sticky buds. I like to have 3 so if rippers get one, bugs/animals get another, I'll still have weed.

Again, TELL NO ONE.
The temptation is great (esp. for beginners) to take your pals out to show them what you're doing.
DON'T DO THAT.
Remember, you're growing money trees. The best pot is worth as much as pure gold.
Think of a pot plant as a bush that has let's say 40 hundred-dollar bills hanging from it, and there's 1o bushes like that.
Now, if YOU know where a money tree was growing, might you be tempted to go out and pick a few of those hundred dollar bills?
Even if they belonged to someone you knew?
Even if you wouldn't be tempted, many people would/will be.

[rangerdanger]

Except for your partner (if you have one):
Don't tell anyone you have pot growing.
If you've mentioned to others that your considering it, tell them that you found out it too hard or you planted some and it died.

After harvest
Keep the fact that you grew successfully a secret.
Like don't whip out any fresh (wet) weed.
Even when you have slow-dried/cured weed, don't let on.
Still be asking your friends if they know of any good deals on pot; even buy some occasionally.
When they're around and you bring some of your pot out, tell them you bought it from a friend of a relative they don't know. Tell them it cost a lot so they won't be interested in buying it, or if you have a lot and you want to sell, tell him that you'll ask your relative's friend for more, have him give you the dough and tell him to come back the next day, then give him the weed.

Here's why you shouldn't tell anyone you have a bunch that you grew.
-They'll follow you next year
-And they'll be like "c'mon dude turn me on to some, it didn't cost you nothing."
Well it DID cost you something.
Sweating out the hikes, digging the holes, carrying the water, spending time on learning how to grow (like here), spending time tending the plants when everyone else was partying at the beach.
Besides, if your friend wanted pot that "didn't cost nothing", HE could have grown some of his fucking own. Tough shit; you have more balls than him it's not your fault he's a pussy.

[MasterAdam]

Besides, if your friend wanted pot that "didn't cost nothing", HE could have grown some of his fucking own. Tough shit; you have more balls than him it's not your fault he's a pussy.

great post^ and so damn true

[rangerdanger]

Ok, you've got your grow buddy, you've found a site--now what?

First you have to deciexde--do you want to go as cheap as possible and dig holes, or do you want to buy planters?
You're gonna have to choose. You can't just throw seeds on the ground and have them grow.
You can do it in the city like in a yard or something. Fertile soil, water, sure.
Out in the woods it's a different story.
You have to plant in good soil. You're gonna have to carry it in.
The best potting soil is Fox Farms Ocean and Forest also Black Gold Potting Soil.
They are chock full o good organic nutrients like kelp, guano's, worm castings etc.
The soil is so rich you don't have to use fertilizer for over a month.
The 2 brands I mentioned may be unavailable in your area, or really expensive.
Look around, like call big plant nurseries. Ask for soils that are pre-amended with ORGANIC nutrients.
Avoid potting soil that has chem. nutrients added.
It would be better to get plain old potting soil.

If you choose to dig, be prepared for some sweaty work. You will need to dig a hole 3' x 3''. It's backbreaking work but it'll be good for ya.

Or, you may chhose to use planters. The only one that I recommend are PULP POTS. (see pic)
You want the largest size, but an approx. 15" x 20" will do if you can water more often .
If no one in your area carries pulp pots, ask a nursery to order some for you. Tell them a friend on the west coast told you about them. The large size are about $25.00.

The beauty of pulp pots
-they are bio-degradable (they last for about 3 years, more if they don't get rained on much)...
-They are made from recycled paper pulp...
-they blend in with their surrounding more than any other type container...
-they don't heat up like other containers, good because heat can destroy roots...
-the paper pulp acts as a moisture regulator. Use lots of water and the pulp will absorb it, so the plant doesn't drown; when the soil gets dry it can get some of that moisture back from the pulp.

How much potting soil:
A hole 3' x 3' requires about 2 large bags of potting soil.
Note: potting soil is VERY heavy. A large bagob weighs like 75 lbs.
This is where your partner coimes in.
Using frame packs, depending on your size and strength, you can carry 75 lbs. of potting soil on your back in a frame pack. Otherwise, split the load up; make as many trips as required.
If the area you're growing in had good soil, you can get away by re-filling the holes with a 50/50 mix of potting and existing soil.
Good soil is dark and has a good "earthy" aroma, almost like something that's been baked.
If using existing soil, be sure to mix it up well with the potting soil, removing all rocks.

[bUrNEd_oUt420]

thats what i was goin to do, i was going to turn the existing soil ( when the ground melts) i could use some potting soil and the existing soil......and yes i was goin to use Fox Farm......

[geckopelli]

Ranger danger is full of shit!

Here we go:

"Lesson One

Rent the flick Homegrown, starring Billy Bob Thornton & Hank Azaria. It’s a great movie all about guerilla growing.

AND

Go here and read this:"

CRAP!!!!!

Read "marijuana botony" for chriet sake!

"And right now is a great time of year to buy hiking boots. You’ll also need a frame backpack and a hiking guide (buy at a sporting goods shop).

Look through it.

You’ll also need a army surplus-type folding shovel."

Everybody doesn't live in northern california, ya know!

...and in any case, do you think you're Colin Fletcher?

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?!?

"Also, start saving up seeds. It’s nice to have seeds from killer strains, but even if it’s mids, that better than none."

WOW!- such wisdom! The power of the obvious!

"Now comes the dicey part.

Only if you have a friend you trust implicitly and is like your best bud, have a partner.

It makes it easier take care of cause pot needs water every 3 days." If it doesn’t rain, you have to bring them water. So if you and your partner take turns, you’ll only have to go out every 6 days."

Not in the Southeast mr teacher- and more often in most of the SW!

"But it has to be someone reliable, someone who doesn’t mind working a $100.00/hr. part-time job, someone who can keep their trap shut."

Someone you can kill, if nessacary.

"TELL NO ONE ELSE."

SHIT!

You're going to have 20-50 (if you do it right, that is) pounds to get rid of- start feeling out your distribution network

"So that’s it until in the next week or 2."

CON'T

[geckopelli]

"If you don’t like the idea of hiking miles on a hot dusty trail while your friends are partying at the beach, read no further."

Read no futher for sure!

throw the party and grow weed to!

"If you don’t have the inclination to dig holes (very hard) and transport potting soil (very heavy), go play a video game."

It's hard in rocky soil a la northern cali- it's easy here, and countless other places.

"If you can’t commit to a project that lasts 7 months, beat it."

Someplaces, if you plant in July, you're looking at 4-5 months


"Now that we’ve gotten rid of the riff-raff…"

But you're still here!

"This week’s topic is choosing a location Pt 1."

You're so conservative- ever read the purloined letter?

Remote does not always require distance from civilization-

[geckopelli]

P.S. You shoud know this:

I'm a crotchedy old man, and if you deciede to join you must do as I say.
You shouldn't take some of my suggestions and mix them with someone else suggestions. You might not end up with anything at all.
Everything will be fine if you JUST FOLLOW ORDERS!!!
Go fuck yourself- mr guru!

ask questions, THINK, and ignore this wannabe demi-god!

any idiot can grow- and get better with practice!

but it's different everywhere- an ART, not a SCIENCE.

[geckopelli]

I can't stomach this meglomania anymore-

if you want to know about growing outdoors, post a thread with your approximante loction and any info you got-

but don;t buy into the mahareshee's BS.

I'd be doing life if i followed that high-school advice

[WeeDMaN]

But why hike when you could jus get a ride or drive yourself out of town in the country in the middle of nowhere?

[rangerdanger]

But why hike when you could jus get a ride or drive yourself out of town in the country in the middle of nowhere?
How many places have you been to that you can drive to but no one else can?
You hike to find a remote location.
So no one else can find it.

I've been growing pot for decades, and I'm always on the lookout for suitable locations. Very few places you can drive right to are suitable for growing pot.
Because other people might see you and wonder why you're there and go back sometime to look around.

That being said, sometimes you can find pot in unusual places.
Back in the 60's, 70's & 80's, people would clean their pot while on the freeway and toss the seeds out the window. A few would end up in the landscapiong on the sides of the freeway.
In fertile soil, watered regularly & lots of sunshine, they did very well. y friend used to work for Cal-Trans and they'd find these stray plants all the time.
And sometimes find maintained gardens as well.
But you'd have to get to the site without being seen, and hop a fence.

gecko--
Don't worry. You'll feel better in a few days when your period's over.
In the meantime, you may want to work on your atrocious spelling before you start criticizing others.
I have helped scores of people grow hundreds of lb's of pot, inc. someone I visited a few weeks ago who has a SUV & a boat that she bought by growing pot that I taught her how to grow.
There's a lot of stuff I don't know shit about (like computers) but there are very few people who have more knowledge than I re: outdoor growing, coupled with the desire to spend hundred's of hours to help.

If you want to help, feel free to do so.
If you just came here to menstruate, eat shit and die.

[40oz and chronic]

an ART, not a SCIENCE.growing is not all art, most of it is science you fuckin dip shit, if you dont like his ideas then shut the fuck up and go back to crying in the corner wacking off to gay miget porn until its daddys happy hour, fuckin idiots these days i swear, your arguments didnt even prove anything against rangers advice

[meangreen]

Cannot a more mature method of disagreement be made then all the assumptious name calling?Not everyone has the same approach to a specific task whether one agrees or disagrees.

[WeeDMaN]

hahah years ago I lived on a farm, along time before I smoked pot I was too young for that, we lived about 22 KM out of any town, had neighbors but no planes fly over excpet people that would be hired to take pictures from the plane of your farm, frame it and send it. Now I wish Ilived on that farm, FOREST EVERYWHERE, PLENTY OF WATER/ponds etc;. Even a dead end road. Fuck if I lived there RIGHT NOW Id be like a dr. greenthumb heh. There where so many places out there to grow even if my perents had dissallowed it I could still plant some somewhere. haha I think Ill buy an acerage one day.

[WeeDMaN]

How many places have you been to that you can drive to but no one else can?
You hike to find a remote location.
So no one else can find it.

I've been growing pot for decades, and I'm always on the lookout for suitable locations. Very few places you can drive right to are suitable for growing pot.
Because other people might see you and wonder why you're there and go back sometime to look around.

That being said, sometimes you can find pot in unusual places.
Back in the 60's, 70's & 80's, people would clean their pot while on the freeway and toss the seeds out the window. A few would end up in the landscapiong on the sides of the freeway.
In fertile soil, watered regularly & lots of sunshine, they did very well. y friend used to work for Cal-Trans and they'd find these stray plants all the time.
And sometimes find maintained gardens as well.
But you'd have to get to the site without being seen, and hop a fence.

gecko--
Don't worry. You'll feel better in a few days when your period's over.
In the meantime, you may want to work on your atrocious spelling before you start criticizing others.
I have helped scores of people grow hundreds of lb's of pot, inc. someone I visited a few weeks ago who has a SUV & a boat that she bought by growing pot that I taught her how to grow.
There's a lot of stuff I don't know shit about (like computers) but there are very few people who have more knowledge than I re: outdoor growing, coupled with the desire to spend hundred's of hours to help.

If you want to help, feel free to do so.
If you just came here to menstruate, eat shit and die.
agreed, but in 1 small unused field down here, do you know how many small bushy areas there are? And how many roads there are where NOONE is ever found on etc; On the other hand i guess its quite the heat bag when ppl notice someone driving down there every couple days.

[rangerdanger]

Of course, if you're talking about a private road behind a secure locked gate, What I said about driving doesn't apply.

But it would have to be a GOOD gate, off-roaders pull down gates all the time.

Most people don't have acres of land to grow on so close. I lived in one of the biggest metropolitan area's in the U.S. but lived 1 hr. drive from a trailhead in a seldom-traveled area of the Nat'l Forest.

And all it would take is ONE person walking/biking/driving down a road ONE time to cause you to lose your entire crop.

[grouchy_old_dude]

ranger's advice is most always sound, his methods are sound. What I read soo far, pretty much standard basics for most guerilla growers, that I know of.


"Different strokes" gecko'

[2cesarewild]

Geck only comes out to trash on others and he fails to respond to substantial questions with substantial answers.

[meangreen]

Geckopelli can back himself up,he has been doing it a great many years and its all about 2 grouchy ole bastards(joke guys) of which I am becoming; set in there ways.

[bUrNEd_oUt420]

why must we argue??? obviously everyone has their own method of growing their buds...now ranger is just trying to give his way, if you dont like it make a post on your own " GUide to Guerilla Growing", im not tying to be an ass, but arent we adults lets not fight like we're in the 8th grade........

[2cesarewild]

Everybody fights man, has nothing to do with age. Geck just chimes in seemingly only to be a dickhead sometimes. Other times he'll have very knowledgeable posts... maybe he's just tired of explaining himself to people all the time lol.

[bUrNEd_oUt420]

well u woudl think that he woudl be more mature about the situation, dont u think, hes not a newbie, close to 2,000 posts.........c'mon lets be mature!!!!

[rangerdanger]

More On Choosing A Location--


So let's say you've found a cleaing out in the woods.
How do you know if someone goes there or not?
Of course, look for signs like cigarette butts, gum wrappers, footprints, stuff like that.
But there may be no obvious signs, so how do you find out for sure? Here are 2 methods I've used:
Find a rock that's the right size to sit on. Drop a handfull of coins next to it, like the $ fell out of someone's pocket when they sat down. I used shiny coins, always including a Kennedy half-dollar (people love those).
Another way is I'd buy a cheap 3 dollar compass, put a string on it and hang it from a bush next to the trail, so it looked like it snagged off someone's neck as they hiked past.
You'll have to visit the site a lot, so you need to find a way to get in and out without leaving a path.
There are a number of ways to do this.
Often, when I had a grow, I'd use 3 pairs of shoes everytime I went in.
First there were my hiking boots. I'd do the long hike in and when I got to the bottom of the canyon, I'd change into a pair of old tennies I had hidden under a rock. I'd wear these to the general area, then wade across the stream at an unlikely spot.
Then I'd stop and change into moccasins (which my nephew made at camp btw) and softly walk the remaining 100 yards or so.
Rock-hopping is another way to travel without leaving a path, so is walking across rough gravel.
You need to do deep into the woods to do this, deeper than most yahoo's are willing to travel to look for/rip off someone's garden.

[meangreen]

Pretty early morning postin there ranger,couldnt sleep last nite? good to see ya adding more literature to the thread.

[geckopelli]

growing is not all art, most of it is science you fuckin dip shit, if you dont like his ideas then shut the fuck up and go back to crying in the corner wacking off to gay miget porn until its daddys happy hour, fuckin idiots these days i swear, your arguments didnt even prove anything against rangers advice
youy stupid motherfuker!!!!!
But i'll forgive you- because... never mind! it's too easy!!!!
But your stupidity is why you've NEVER SMOKED WORJLD CLASS WEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I pitty you!

Ranger is a poser!!!!!!

I challenge him- no books involved!!

Set a date- you wuss!

2 minutes response time- any weeed growing question!!!!!!
ask meangreen who will win- and he konws his shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No one here stands wih me in overall experience-
sorry meangreen- he whom approaches perfection!!!!!-
But this is- has been- my life for a LONG TIME.

free weed for everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you wold do well to take advantage of such company- younglings!!!!!
(ASK AROUND! MIGHT NOT A JOINTMAN OR GEL OR... COUNTLESS OTHERS (?) SPEAK UP?)

[meangreen]

Have all the challenges you may,but keep it respectful and on topic.I do believe you have voiced your opinion Geck and any further ranting is unneccesary.Thankyou Geck

[geckopelli]

Nothing ranger says is pertient to growing inthe SE.

I'm sick of BS!!

HOw do I deal with a patch of dirt in Fla?

What of a forest in the appalachins?

And foot hills in southern Cali?

Or the strakness of the mojave?

Or the ozarks?

no- ranger needs to specify his BS-

ANY boby can gro in NO Cali! THEY LET YOU!!!!!!!!

gromwing outdoor is area specific-

and 2ceasarwild-
ask away-
I don't need books!

but be carefull what you ask- in the past i've found it difficult to dumb down the answers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[I know I sound stuck-up. but you GOT TO UNDERSTAND HARM REDUCTION!!!!!!
Hate me all you want---- but know I speak TRUTH!!!!!
FREDOM OF INFORMATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!]
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The Future of Music is Now!

[rangerdanger]

I will not accept a challange from someone who is so obviously out of control.
And I would not accept a challange unless there was a significant amt. of $ involved, to make it interesting.
Rant and rave all you want lizardboy, you come across as just another ill-mannered child.

Btw, FYI, I grew for decades not only in the foothills of SoCal, but the higher elevations (forests--Palomar, Cleveland Nat'l Forest & San Gabriels) and in the deserts (Mojave, J-Tree and Anzo-Borrego) as well.

[rangerdanger]

Now back to doing what I do best--helping people grow mass quantities of phat sticky buds.

More on maintaining a guerilla grow area:
NEVER NEVER EVER use booby-traps.
For one thing, they are self-defeating. Someone's out poking around, they get injured, the go to a hospital there will be cops involved.
Even if the victim doesn't call the cops, the hospital will.
The cops will question the victim, he'll tell/show them where he was injured, and the cops will wait for the grower to return and bust him major league big time. Not just for cultivation, but for the booby-traps (more serious in most locations than growing pot).

I worked for the forest service for decades (as a volunteer; maintaining trails/trail guide, campground host.
One afternoon I was at a campground 8 miles in by trail (except I had a car and could access the campground via a dirt fire/service road, behind a locked gate I had the key to) when a man came running into the campground begging for help.
He had been hiking with his wife and 10-year old daughter. The little girl had to pee and walked off into the bushes to do so and got fishooks embedded in my scalp.
By the time the girls parents reacted to her screaming she had already toirn chunks of flesh and hair from her scalp.
Cell phones/radio's didn't work in the canyon we were in, I drove to the nearest phone 6 miles away and called dispatch, which sent in a rescue truck.
And immediently a 24-hour surviellence was set up around that garden.
2 days later the grower showed up to tend his garden and leo's were waiting for him.
I was one of the people who testified at his trial. He ended up getting convicted and sentenced to 8 years in prison.
P.S. the girl had to undergo several surgeries to repair the damage the fish hooks had caused.

So-
No booby traps, lose your plants,
Booby traps--lose your plants AND spend years in prison.

[bUrNEd_oUt420]

just plant, in a few different areas if some asshole decideds to steal them..At least he only got one crop......so i f you plant more than one obviously more buds!!!

[rangerdanger]

When To Plant

In the spring, after the spring soltice (Mar. 20 this year) and after the last danger of frost has passed. If you don't know when that is in your neck of the woods, call a local nursery and ask them.
So it's months off, and you have a lot to do before you plant seeds anyway: finding a location and prepping the area.

However, you can give your plants a head start and a great advantage if you start them inside right about now.
If you put them outside at the start of spring when they're already a foot tall, they'll be able to jam right off the bat.

To start them inside you'll need a growspace, with lights and ventilation. And you'll want to raise them under 16/8 light.

If you want to start them inside, count backwards 4 weeks and start them inside then.

Btw, 4/20 is a great time to plant.

[bUrNEd_oUt420]

well right now i am currently growing 15 NY City Diesel and they are only 9 days above soil from seed, so they wont be done untill 4/20, but they obviuosly are going to go in the flowering cab, so i will have my veg cab.....but the only thing is i only wanted to keep my outdoor plants inside for only 2- 3 weels, and i was going to put out 50 or so plants, 5 in each area, and i already have the areas preped, i have ot drive about a half hour to get there and then walk i'd say 2 miles, but obviously im not going to put all 50 near each other.......


what do u think about the strains i have so far for outdoors........

Pure Power Plant x B52 (femmed)

NY City Diesel

NL #5


thats what i've got so far and i live in NH.......what other strains woudl u suggest?

[rangerdanger]

Of all aspects of marijuana growing, knowledge of specific strains is what I'm most lacking in.
But since you live in N.H. where I believe cold weather come's early, if I were you I'd pick strains based on how long flowering takes/when they finish.
Most seed banks websites contain that info.

I've never been to much into strains. I've always tried the parent plants' buds before I've started the seeds/put out clones.
Here's how I judge strains:
If it gets me to where I wanna be, high-wise, that's good.
I like to have S-dom's for when I'm active--out and about like hiking or rafting. But S's also tend to make me paranoids which is not good for where I live, deep in the woods, surrounded by bears and lions.
Kickin it at home I prefer an I-dom.

[passittotheleft]

Don't worry. You'll feel better in a few days when your period's over.

If you want to help, feel free to do so.
If you just came here to menstruate, eat shit and die.nice

[geckopelli]

How do we deal with a sheet flow problem, know it all?

Poser!

[meangreen]

It is a difficult thing to control unwanted water covering the ground .If its a high water table causing it then your fucked.If its run off from rain then either find the source and change its avenue of travel or bring in a massive amount of top soil to raise the elevation of the ground above the flooding depth.No easy or cheap way about it.

[rangerdanger]

Thanks mg

[2cesarewild]

lol, wow geck, I think if you're trying to make a point you're better off asking something that requires expertise to answer, not common sense.

[STON3R]

ranger ur my hero
iv gained so much knowledge from reading ur posts and i dident even have 2 leave the forum

p.s. how much do u smoke man? if u got mad budds comming out ur ears u must b ripped all the time ,oh man it makes me smile just thinking about it

peace and keep up the awesome work

[rangerdanger]

Thank you kindly STON3R.

I haven't posted recently because that there is nothing you can do right now outdoors except possibly hike around and look for a place to have a garden.
Things will start to chage 03/20--the vernal equinox (first day of spring).
All you can do right now is get ready. Re-read my earlier posts in this thread.

[bUrNEd_oUt420]

is april to late to veg plants and plant them outside, veg for about 3 weeks.........grown in 5 gallon buckets????

[rangerdanger]

is april to late to veg plants and plant them outside, veg for about 3 weeks.........grown in 5 gallon buckets????
I don't understand your Q.

[rangerdanger]

Dangers In The Woods

Plants
Poison oak,ivy,sumac:
Basically the same plant, it can grow as a bush or small tree or a vine. They can be plentiful. In California it is the most common wild native plant near streams. They can be indentified by their leaves.
You don't want to get "bit" by one of these.
You'll be itching for weeks. And a BAD itch thatg will keep you awake at night, and if you scratch it, it will never go away.
Once I was clearing an area for a garden deep in the woods and pulled up some dead plants (they didn't have any leaves so I didn't recognize them as poison oak).
I got it so bad the toxin was in my blood and I had to go to a clinic and get an injection and take steroids for a month.

Stinging Nettles: hurts as bad as a bee sting. The first time you brush up against one of these fuckers with your bare skin, it will feel like someone just drove red-hot needles into your flesh.

How to identify these plants--ask a boy scout or backpacker, or visit a Forest Service Office or go on a Sierra Club/nature hike.

Insects
Usually just a minor annoyance.
Except for mosquito's which can transmit West Nile and ticks, which can transmit Lyme disease.
Long-sleeved shirts and long pants with liberal amt's of Deep Woods or repellents which are DEET-based helps, and there are natural repellents you can spray on.
Eating a few cloves of garlic will help keep the 'skeeters (and most of your friends) away.
Ticks are more difficult. Wear a long-sleeved shirt and long pants and use repellents, and also put a rubber band around each sleeve and pants cuff.
And when you get home, take a showers and it's not bad to have a friend check your body to make sure you are tick-free. They're easy to remove if you get to them in the first few hours after they start to dig in.

Animals
Snakes:
Snakes would much rather avoid than confront you.
When I hike I walk heavily and sing and tap my hiking staff of rocks.
This alerts any nearby snakes of my presence, and they split.
Never put your hands or feet anyplace you can't see.
Let's say your bopping down the trail and come around a bend and right there in the middle of the trail see a 5' rattlesnake sunning itself.
Not to worry. Just yell at it. It will slither off and you can continue your hike.
And start singing.

Bears: They will go to any length to avoid you. The only exception are campground bears who will steal your pikanic basket if you leave it unattended.

Mountain Lions: I've only been lucky enough once in over a thousand miles of hiking during the last 30 years to see a mountain lion. They've seen me plenty of times no doubt, but they are no danger if you're over 3 feet tall or with people, unless you get too close to a mother with kittens.

Coyote's: Again, no danger to people. Yell at them and throw rocks.

I invited my 10-year old neice to go hiking with other family members and she told me she was scared.
"Scared of what?" I asked.
She went down the whole list: snakes bears, lions and stuff and I told her what I posted here--no danger.
However, the is a very dangerous animal that you definately encounter in the woods.
People.
Unlike animals, people will sometimes fuck with you for no discernable reason whatsoever.
AND girls should NEVER hike alone, or without at least 1 male.
Sorry to say, men can be dangerous to women when loosed from the constaints of civilization.

Now lace up those hiking boots and hit the trails.

[rangerdanger]

A dog.
They help in so many ways. Besides being your pal, they will keep any evil-doers away.
They will also warn you of/scare off snakes & stuff.
When you stealthily approach your garden, your dog will alert you of anyone lurking nearby.
AND
Feed your dog meat the night before and the morning of your hike.
When you get to your grow, feed him a bran muffin.
Works on dogs just like with people.
Now you have the shit of a meat-eater in your grow area. This will deter deer who, when they smell it, will know it came from a carnivore.
You know, thinking about it, the ideal meat to feed your dog before a hike would be venison ;) .

So make your dog your grow buddy.
And reward your dog when you have your pounds of ganja. Lots of petting will do for a female dog; if it's a male, find him a bitch in heat.

[meangreen]

Poison ivy
http://www.cattail.nu/ivy/ivy_classic.jpg
http://www.cattail.nu/ivy/ivy_tree2.jpg
http://www.cattail.nu/ivy/ivy_red.jpg

[meangreen]

poison oak

http://altnature.com/Poison_ivy/2lfpoisonivy7md_small.jpg (http://altnature.com/Poison_ivy/poison_ivy_picture.htm)
http://altnature.com/Poison_ivy/ivygroundcover8292md.jpg

http://altnature.com/Poison_ivy/poisonivyatfencemd7714.jpg

[meangreen]

poison sumac

http://jaxmed.com/articles/Diseases/p_sumac.jpg
http://jaxmed.com/articles/Diseases/poisonsumac1.jpg
http://www.ivystat.com/images/plants/poison_sumac2.jpg (http://www.ivystat.com/images/plants/poison_sumac2_big.jpg)

[rangerdanger]

Hey thanks a mil mg, totally kool.

[WhisperingWoods]

Your posts are inspiring, but I don't think I'll have the time to do all this stuff until I've stabilized my career and all that crap. Heheh, thanks for all the info and ideas.

[digitalldj]

very good so far!

[40oz and chronic]

Dangers In The Woods

Plants
Poison oak,ivy,sumac:
Basically the same plant, it can grow as a bush or small tree or a vine. They can be plentiful. In California it is the most common wild native plant near streams. They can be indentified by their leaves.
You don't want to get "bit" by one of these.
You'll be itching for weeks. And a BAD itch thatg will keep you awake at night, and if you scratch it, it will never go away.
Once I was clearing an area for a garden deep in the woods and pulled up some dead plants (they didn't have any leaves so I didn't recognize them as poison oak).
I got it so bad the toxin was in my blood and I had to go to a clinic and get an injection and take steroids for a month.

Stinging Nettles: hurts as bad as a bee sting. The first time you brush up against one of these fuckers with your bare skin, it will feel like someone just drove red-hot needles into your flesh.

How to identify these plants--ask a boy scout or backpacker, or visit a Forest Service Office or go on a Sierra Club/nature hike.

Insects
Usually just a minor annoyance.
Except for mosquito's which can transmit West Nile and ticks, which can transmit Lyme disease.
Long-sleeved shirts and long pants with liberal amt's of Deep Woods or repellents which are DEET-based helps, and there are natural repellents you can spray on.
Eating a few cloves of garlic will help keep the 'skeeters (and most of your friends) away.
Ticks are more difficult. Wear a long-sleeved shirt and long pants and use repellents, and also put a rubber band around each sleeve and pants cuff.
And when you get home, take a showers and it's not bad to have a friend check your body to make sure you are tick-free. They're easy to remove if you get to them in the first few hours after they start to dig in.

Animals
Snakes:
Snakes would much rather avoid than confront you.
When I hike I walk heavily and sing and tap my hiking staff of rocks.
This alerts any nearby snakes of my presence, and they split.
Never put your hands or feet anyplace you can't see.
Let's say your bopping down the trail and come around a bend and right there in the middle of the trail see a 5' rattlesnake sunning itself.
Not to worry. Just yell at it. It will slither off and you can continue your hike.
And start singing.

Bears: They will go to any length to avoid you. The only exception are campground bears who will steal your pikanic basket if you leave it unattended.

Mountain Lions: I've only been lucky enough once in over a thousand miles of hiking during the last 30 years to see a mountain lion. They've seen me plenty of times no doubt, but they are no danger if you're over 3 feet tall or with people, unless you get too close to a mother with kittens.

Coyote's: Again, no danger to people. Yell at them and throw rocks.

I invited my 10-year old neice to go hiking with other family members and she told me she was scared.
"Scared of what?" I asked.
She went down the whole list: snakes bears, lions and stuff and I told her what I posted here--no danger.
However, the is a very dangerous animal that you definately encounter in the woods.
People.
Unlike animals, people will sometimes fuck with you for no discernable reason whatsoever.
AND girls should NEVER hike alone, or without at least 1 male.
Sorry to say, men can be dangerous to women when loosed from the constaints of civilization.

Now lace up those hiking boots and hit the trails.what about a gun? or a hunting knife? wouldn't those to good in times of need?(not just shooting and killing another living thing but to like scare it away by shooting next to it) or if it does actually attack then you have a trusty 7 inch hunting knife by your side, no need for your dog to suffer wounds from an angery bear right? cept my dog, it's an American Bull dog which may come in handy ;)

[rangerdanger]

Dude, if a bear attacks you a handgun and certainly a knife ain't gonna do you any good.

I can tell you this: I've hiked over a thousand miles and I've never once needed a gun.
Guns are fun for plinking though.
Knive's I carry, but not for stabbing stuff.
More like for opening stuff like chips and beer, cutting fishing line and stuff like that.

[digitalldj]

if u were going to the lengths where u were growing where u could encounter grizzlies, i think a rifle would help for sure, i wouldnt hesitate to shoot a bear if it meant me getting by unharmed

[meangreen]

I am sorry to say,a 45 caliber+ handgun will drop a brown,grizzly,black,or polar in a heartbeat assuming the possesser of the gun wasn't a bitch and freaked instead of handling the situation.Then again if any of ya were at all familar with bears,they are to be avoided but typically attacks generally occur when a bitch has youngins present otherwise ya got a better chance of getting run over by a drunk driver!!
If ya have ever hunted ,which i do every year, bear hunters or large game always carry a large 45 cal+ hangun for close quarters backup situations.In reality,with a properly placed shot;one can drop a bear with a 22 caliber.

[2cesarewild]

A 22? DAM that's a good shot mean, people get shot in the head with 22's and survive, can't imagine taking a bear out with one, although a bit more feasible with 45+ caliber. You guys heard the latest, that cheney was "clearly inebriated" when he shot his buddy? lol... kinda off topic but the whole guns shit reminded me, sorry not intended to hijack the guerilla thread, good work you're doing here ranger, no room for bs at all, pretty straight to the point.

[bUrNEd_oUt420]

yeha i think you would have to be within like 10 feet to kill a bear with a 22. but a 45. should do alot of damage to a bear.......

[ninfan77]

Guerilla shot down in the mist.

[digitalldj]

hahahahahah

kill a bear with a .22? give me a break

and any hunters carrying a .45 around as a "sidearm" are retards, how the hell are u putting yourself in a situation to have a "close combat" situation with a bear? i would be 100000 times more comfortable just following him with my rifle until he left or i had to put him down

as for killing a bear with a .22 i would say it's nearly impossible, with a black bear there is the slimmest slimmest chance, with a grizzly, no chance.

[LuMpYtRiChOmEy]

Guess ya never saw a 22 mag load then. and Its just good sound thinkin to have a sidearm at your hip for if ya stumble upon something ya didnt expect.

[rangerdanger]

Like I said before, I have hiked over a thousand miles in some of the roughest, bear-infested woods in Calif.
I've never ever had a problem with bears.
There have been times when I've encountered bears: at campgrounds during meal time.
A bear will start walking your way--most people will back off.
For every step backwards a person takes, the bear takes a step forward (towards your food, not you). Since the bear figures you don't want the food anymore, he helps himself. When he's done, he leaves (bears do not recognize people as a food source, inotherwoods we're not on their list).
A male bear may challange you if he finds you in his territory during mating season. He may rear up on his hind legs and roar (this happened to me once and honest to gawd I pissed my pants--he was about 20' away, stood about 7' tall and weighed something like 350 lbs.).
But I slowly backed away.
Every time after that I brought all 3 of my dogs with me, including an Akita (bred in Japan to hunt bears). I never saw the bear again, tho I saw his tracks and 1 night camped in the woods my dogs went ballistic so I knew he was nearby (nearby for dogs in the woods is 1/4 mile). They lit out after him but I called them back.

That's why I said what I did about bringing your dog with you.
Not so your dog will get in a life-or-death fight with a bear or mountain lion, etc.
But because when wild animals smell a dog they skidaddle. They already fear humans, humans + dog = bad news for bears.

The Forest Service (and Boy Scots and other people who spend a lot of time in the woods) suggest that if you see a bear--yell, wave your arms around, rattle pots and pans and throw small rocks at it.
And if as bear ever charges you, there's only 1 thing you can do--curl up in a ball, stick your head between your legs and kiss your ass good-bye.

Worry more about people than wild animals.

[2cesarewild]

hahahahahah

kill a bear with a .22? give me a break

and any hunters carrying a .45 around as a "sidearm" are retards, how the hell are u putting yourself in a situation to have a "close combat" situation with a bear? i would be 100000 times more comfortable just following him with my rifle until he left or i had to put him down

as for killing a bear with a .22 i would say it's nearly impossible, with a black bear there is the slimmest slimmest chance, with a grizzly, no chance.
Dam dude I think all those dicks getting violently rammed down your throat are finally taking their toll on your brain. Why would you be following the bear with a .45 that was brought only for an emergency close-"combat" scenario, key word being emergency? Obviously if you're going out to specifically hunt for bear you're going to have heavier artillary. But did this thread say rangerdanger's guide to hunting bears? Or how to be a dumbass with a .45 and follow bears around so you can get into some close combat with them and a bonus appendix that includes greco-roman wrestling moves that are guaranteed to take that bear down? No I don't think that's what it said. Maybe you can't see past all the glaze on your face though.

[digitalldj]

Dam dude I think all those dicks getting violently rammed down your throat are finally taking their toll on your brain. Why would you be following the bear with a .45 that was brought only for an emergency close-"combat" scenario, key word being emergency? Obviously if you're going out to specifically hunt for bear you're going to have heavier artillary. But did this thread say rangerdanger's guide to hunting bears? Or how to be a dumbass with a .45 and follow bears around so you can get into some close combat with them and a bonus appendix that includes greco-roman wrestling moves that are guaranteed to take that bear down? No I don't think that's what it said. Maybe you can't see past all the glaze on your face though.
umm ok...

have u ever been hunting in your entire life?

do u have any sort of survival training or outdoors experiance?

have u ever even held a gun?

shut up.

i'm done because i dont want to piss off rangerdanger because i need as much good info as i can get.

[2cesarewild]

The answer is no I don't go out to the woods to kill things, the answer is yes to every other one of your questions, unfortunately for the weapon one especially as far as my opinions go, and i'm known to get quite filthy out in the dirt and wetland, if you're that interested ya smart ass. Like you said though, this is ranger's thread so let the man share his wisdom instead of you sharing your pathetic indirectional drivel.

[rangerdanger]

Listen guys, I believe in letting people have their say, but this is a thread about guerilla growing marijuana and no one who's interested in growing should have to scroll thru pesonal arguements.
If you want to continue by all means do so, but start your own thread for it will ya please?
Thanks.

[STON3R]

im not from cali i am from northern alberta canada, it is possible to grow weed? its not cold all the time btw

[rangerdanger]

Marijuana grown outside isn't ripe until mid-Oct, so if the frosts in your area don't occur until after mid-Oct., (call a local nursery if you're not sure) then go for it.

Plant his spring after the last danger of frosts have passed.

[40oz and chronic]

im in northern california, is there any GOOD places you know off your head by Marysvile/Yuba City? i know of woods and stuff around here but i just wanted your advise =]

(and if you don't know where thats at, its like right in the midle of the Valley)

[passittotheleft]

When I go out to garden I will definitely have my 9mm at my side. I have 3, 15 shot mags for it. If 45 9mm rounds cant drop a bear then I deserve to die for being such a bad shot.

[digitalldj]

When I go out to garden I will definitely have my 9mm at my side. I have 3, 15 shot mags for it. If 45 9mm rounds cant drop a bear then I deserve to die for being such a bad shot.
lol give me a break

[bUrNEd_oUt420]

alright now, lets not start that shit again....lol

[rangerdanger]

passittotheleft, the only way a bear would cause you a problem is if you fuck with it.
Why would you want to do that?

[rangerdanger]

After frantic calls from my attorneys, I’ve been advised to make the following stipulations re: my guarantee to get 4 oz. per plant if you follow my instructions:

I cannot guarantee that your plants will not be found and ripped/seized.

I cannot guarantee that all your plants won’t be males.

I cannot guarantee that your plants will not be teleported to an alien spacecraft, or eaten by dinosaurs.

I also cannot guarantee that weather conditions will not adversely impact your yield.

Offer not good where restricted, taxed, prohibited, or banned.

One per customer. May not be mechanically reproduced. No purchase necessary. Your mileage may vary. Suggested serving. Not to be used as a personal floatation device. Apply 3 times a day as symptoms persist. Discontinue use if you develop a rash or the ability to speak Swedish. An equal opportunity employer. You have the right to remain silent and bear arms in church.



To qualify you must be a smoker over the age of 18 and not currently on parole for crimes against humanity or driving backwards on the I-5 at 3 a.m. naked except for high-heeled shoes.

Applicants must show proof of insurance. Mandatory drug testing. Some heavy lifting required. It is illegal to own a dildo in Texas. 50% of the people you know are below average intelligence. God’s REAL first name is Al. You must agree to draw a handlebar mustache on every portrait of any politician you see and recite the ABC’s without singing them.



Guarantee not applicable to people named Earl.

[NaturaAtraSpiritus]

I cannot guarantee that your plants will not be teleported to an alien spacecraft, or eaten by dinosaurs.
HAHA Like on Cheech and Chong's Next Movie where they were teleporting the weed plants up into the spacecraft.

I like your guide rangerdanger good job.

[WeeDMaN]

hahahahahah

kill a bear with a .22? give me a break

and any hunters carrying a .45 around as a "sidearm" are retards, how the hell are u putting yourself in a situation to have a "close combat" situation with a bear? i would be 100000 times more comfortable just following him with my rifle until he left or i had to put him down

as for killing a bear with a .22 i would say it's nearly impossible, with a black bear there is the slimmest slimmest chance, with a grizzly, no chance.
shoot him in the head, or if ya wanna nuetrolize him, in the ballsack.

lmfao, digital, suddenly your coinsuence(sp?) comes into play.

[STON3R]

lol dj u must b an expert hunter,eh?
i can garantee that i could drop you or are a bear with a nice shot to the head with my .22
the bullets might be small but they would crack skull

[2cesarewild]

Who cares, guns suck anyways, let's just drop the caliber dispute and listen to more info about growing.

[STON3R]

^^ ur 100% right, lets hear what ranger has 2 say!

[digitalldj]

lol dj u must b an expert hunter,eh?
i can garantee that i could drop you or are a bear with a nice shot to the head with my .22
the bullets might be small but they would crack skullkilled enough things in my day to consider myself a decent hunter, and 100% your faggot ass couldnt kill a bear with a .22 if it was comin at u, let alone a human for that matter, u dragged me back into this stupid discussion so fuck off and stop biting my steez, there's only room for 1 asshole on these forums and it aint you.

[rangerdanger]

Ok look I asked you nicely to take your shit slinging elsewhere.
If it doesn't stop, I'm gonna bail on this thread.
I don't have time to waste on people who treat this thread like a bunch of 1st-graders in a schoolyard sandbox.

[theinsideman]

jesus fucking christ guys. you cant killa bear with a 22., DJ, stop calling him a faggot, stop the flames both of you. you are like little kids begging for some titty. so please just get along, or ill cyber whoop both your asses.
BtW, the only way your killing a bear with a 22. is with the butt, or at point fucking blank. if you want to give that try, go for it. but i want to learn how to grow some fucking herbs. ranger, is there anything else to add to this beautiful guide? and can i copy it and put it on my hard drive?

[digitalldj]

is it ok to ask quesitons regarding stuff already posted and things i need more info one, or u want me to wait until the whole process is typed out?

[rangerdanger]

By now you should have already got things ready.
Broken-in hiking boots & hiking sox, a frame pack, folding shovel, seeds, trails to hike marked in your hiking book, money saved for soil and a grow buddy.

Now, if you are willing to settle for a smaller yield and spend $15 you can avoid digging holes by buying the planter pictured.
They are called pulp pots. You'll prob. have to order these from a nursery.
They are far superior to plastic planters because
-they "breathe"...
-They absorb excess water and act as a wick when the soil begins to dry...
-they blend in with the surroundings...
-when the roots of the plant outgrow the planter they grow right through it into the ground...
-they don't heat up like plastic...
-they are made from recycled paper pulp.

Hurry up. Spring starts Mar. 20.

[rangerdanger]

Whoops...

[rangerdanger]

I'll try again in a few.

[Stussy]

what would u consider a reputable source for seeds?

i have a head shop in my town which sells seeds, but i've never heard anything of the use of them

[rangerdanger]

what would u consider a reputable source for seeds?

i have a head shop in my town which sells seeds, but i've never heard anything of the use of them
If you live in the U.S., sales of seeds are illegal; no place openly sells them.

Because of the recent crackdown on seed sellers, I'd recommend "bag" seeds for a first grow.

[Stussy]

If you live in the U.S., sales of seeds are illegal; no place openly sells them.

Because of the recent crackdown on seed sellers, I'd recommend "bag" seeds for a first grow.
i live in canada, and there's a couple head shops that sell em openely, but would u trust them??

also..to do with those pots, is it a good idea to bury the pots like half way in the ground? that seems like they would get more moisture

[bUrNEd_oUt420]

i woudl trust them, why not? but i would go in person, not order them from their site. obviously.... but i dont know about burying the pots in the ground??? i just put rocks or marbels on the top of my soil, it helps alot (moisture wise).

[Stussy]

i woudl trust them, why not? but i would go in person, not order them from their site. obviously.... but i dont know about burying the pots in the ground??? i just put rocks or marbels on the top of my soil, it helps alot (moisture wise).
rocks and marbles??


anyways what are the odds of this working?:

say i had free pots and soil etc. and just had to buy the seads, do u think i could drive far out, plant like 30 plants but some good fertillizer etc. and just leave them and mabye go once a month?

i'm curious about this because around my house there arent many places i feel totally safe having a larger grow within 1 hour + from my house

[rangerdanger]

Yeah you can "bury" containers but imo if you go at least half deep go the rest of the way (ideally 3' deep) and don't use a container at all.

Marijuana requires water a min of 2x/week. If it doesn't rain you must bring water to them.

[Stussy]

Yeah you can "bury" containers but imo if you go at least half deep go the rest of the way (ideally 3' deep) and don't use a container at all.

Marijuana requires water a min of 2x/week. If it doesn't rain you must bring water to them.
if your only goin 3" deep, why do u make it sound like such a chore to dig holes?

if u just leave a good shovel at the site that seems like it would do the job easy


[not bashing u or trying to insult u, just questiong the work of dragging lots of pots into a site rather then 1 shovel]

[rangerdanger]

if your only goin 3" deep, why do u make it sound like such a chore to dig holes?

if u just leave a good shovel at the site that seems like it would do the job easy


[not bashing u or trying to insult u, just questiong the work of dragging lots of pots into a site rather then 1 shovel]
First of all, it's not 3" (inches) deep, it's 3' (feet) deep. That's up past your knees.
Second, digging holes out in the woods ain't like digging a hole in your backyard.
It can be extremely hard work, and sometimes you may need a pick.
A good place to grow is about 15'--30' from a stream. Bring a piece of rebar or similar and poke it in the ground to find a place that's easy to dig.

[geckopelli]

A dose of THE REAL WORLD:
Seed sales are protected by UN treaty
Conspiracy to grow marijuana is illegal; seeds, per se, are not.

I'm bitting my tongue...!?!?

[Stussy]

A dose of THE REAL WORLD:
Seed sales are protected by UN treaty
Conspiracy to grow marijuana is illegal; seeds, per se, are not.

I'm bitting my tongue...!?!?
shut up.

k so 3 feet deep, now i understand


what do u say about building in an area which is "swampish" with lots of peat moss etc. on the ground wich seems to stay naturally damp

[rangerdanger]

"Swampy" area's, or places where the ground is usually moist (like next to a stream or water source) are bad choices for planting in the ground.

Marijuana thrives in area's where the soil dries out occasionally.
If you choose to plant there, use a plastic or other non-pourous container, elevated on rocks/bricks/etc. so the container has adequate drainage.

[Stussy]

this question is a little forward but probably my main concern with this whole growing setup, all i'm looking for is a yes or no answer and then i can wait till u get there but, is it possible to cure and dry the weed outside as well?

[rangerdanger]

"is it possible to cure and dry the weed outside as well?"

Probably not in the way you mean it.
It depends on the ambient hujmidity of where you live. In rare instances I suppose the humidity would be just at the right level (I wouldn't know what that is) that hung upside-down under trees it might dry slow enough to avoid that harsh "hay" taste.
And curing almost certainly has to be done inside. Someplace where the jars could be stored for a few weeks (with daily visits to vent) and be protected from sunlight and tempeture extremes. A shed might work, the corner opf a garage/basement/attic would be ideal.

NOTE:
In Columbia and parts of Mexico, marijuana is dried and partially cured outside, in piles.
The buds are placed in piles in full sunlight, and "turned" (like compost) frequently (at least once/day).
But this is very tricky and require humidity be low enough to keep the buds from drying to fast yet not moist enough to cause mold.

Be inventive. I've heard of pot being dried in the trunk of an abandoned car sitting out in a field. And tool sheds, and chicken coops.
Be aware though--pot has a very strong odor when drying.
Not until you container them for the cure can you control the smell.

[Stussy]

bah...and those ways doing it outside sound sketchy, obviously if i was gonna take the time to do all this i would want to do it right..

gonna have to find a good place to do all these after-steps

[Stussy]

TTT

are u going to get into like planting the seads, how to tell male/female etc.???

sorry for being so impaticent but my planting time is coming up on myself very quickly and my main source for info is this thread

[rangerdanger]

Calm down.

I'm taking this step-by-step. I will post everything you need to know to turn seeds into pounds of dank, when you need to know it.
It's not time to plant seeds yet (unless your starting inside).
Unless you're growing from clones, you're not gonna be able to tell sex until late-Aug.
So patience mi amigo, I'll be here when you need me.

Early on I recommended reading a grow guide, that will give you a good grasp on growing.

[Stussy]

recomend any certain books?

[bUrNEd_oUt420]

the marijuanan bible, this is his site so you can just click on the flashy thing above. or get it at amazon.

[rangerdanger]

I posted several sites in this thread that are good resources.

[LuMpYtRiChOmEy]

I took out 12 grizley bears with one shotgun shell once! I was walkin threw the woods one time when I suddenly found myself surrounded by a PACK of wild snarlin grizleys. I didnt have a gun or NOTHIN! Then I spoted an old rusty shotgun shell sombody musta dropeed a while back or somethin. The bears were closin in on me and tightinin theyr circil so I grabed the shotgun shell off the ground, tore it open, dumped the bukshott down my throat and chugged my beer on toppa it. I shook my belly like a madman and PEED THE BUKKSHOTT OUT at such a great force that it took out 12 of the closest bears and the rest ofem ran like cowards! http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif -so Dont tell me ya cant take out a bear with a 22, I took 12 out with nothin but a shottgunn shell and my dick http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif !

[LuMpYtRiChOmEy]

Im sorry Folks. I couldnt control myself. It really didnt have so much to do with my dick, it was more the bukkshott and the Budweiser! :) Blessins :)

[rangerdanger]

Peeps, it's almost here.
The Vernal Eqinox (days & nights of equal length) in Mar 20 this year.
It's not time to plant outside yet but will be soon.
Do you have all your stuff?

SEEDS
For someone who has never grown anything I recommend whatever seeds you can get your paws on. Obviously you want seeds from the best pot you can.

For those who HAVE grown stuff before (tomatoes, etc.) consider buying Northern Lights (NL) seeds from a seed bacnk.
NL is imo the best strain to grow whether experienced or beginner.
It's very hardy, very forgiving of mistakes.

[Floyd Soul]

Can all NLs be used outdoors so?

[rangerdanger]

Spring has finally sprung.
There may still be snow on the ground where you are (like here), but it won't last long.
Winter, which began just before x-mas, is finally over and what a looong freaking 3 months it was!

Now it's time to start getting this show on the road. The road to marijuana independence.
Hope you've got all your shit together.
Starting within the next few days I'll begin making posts re: beginning for reals.

[rangerdanger]

The most critical factor in outdoor growing.
If you can't grow in your backyard safely, you're gonna have to choose a remote place.
The more remote the better.
Because even if you have a dozen plants with branches sagging with pounds of bud, it's all wasted time & effort if you go out to water (or worse go out to harvest) and find all your shit gone. It's happened to me 8 or 9 times, even in moderately remote places.

General
Ideally you want to choose someplace where you can park without being seen from passing cars.
Cause leo's and rippers aren't stupid.
If they see a car frequently at the same place they will be pretty certain that you may have a grow nearby and start looking for it. And some leo's and rippers are excellent trackers.
If there's no place like that, you'll have to park someplace where there are lots of cars (like a popular trailhead) so your car won't stand out.
A love of the outdoors, a desire to have pounds of weed for pennies, and an MP3 player all help tremendously on a long hike.
On any trail there are usually lots of side paths.
YOU NEED A TRAIL GUIDE AND COLORED STRING FOR THIS NEXT PART (GPS's are good too but not necassary). Hiking guides are especially important because they show streams/lakes, etc and tell you whether they are seasonal or year-round.
Walk about a mile or 2 in and start looking for side trails. Take the path less traveled (and mark the junction with a bit of colored string). Try to take as many side paths as possible.

What To Look For
You want a clearing that has a full view of the southern, eastern and western sky (for sunlight). There can be lots of tree's to the west. That's ok because they don't block the sun. Old cabin site's are usually excellent choices because there's already a clearing.
You want to be close (but not next to) a water source. You don't want to be right next to water source because water atrracts both 2 and 4-legged animals.
Unless it rains you will have to bring water to the plants. A 6' tall plant in full veg will drink up to a gallon of water every few days, and water weighs over 8 pounds per gal.
The best way to transport it from a nearby water source is in a green or brown 5-gal plastic bucket. Scoop up water and lug it back.

You also want a way to get in and out of your grow area without leaving a path. Rockhopping or walking on gravel is a good way to not leave a path. Avoid area 's that have you walking through grass.

A clearing does not always mean completely clear. There can be bushes. In fact, bushes are an excellent cover.

more to come...

[passittotheleft]

Earlier in this thread you said to call the local nursery to see when the last frost is but I went to the nursery and they said they had no way of telling. It was a pretty small place and didnt help a whole hell of a lot. I live in Wa and lately the weather has been completely unpredictable. I plan on planting in mid to late april. Do you think this will be ok?

[rangerdanger]

Earlier in this thread you said to call the local nursery to see when the last frost is but I went to the nursery and they said they had no way of telling. It was a pretty small place and didnt help a whole hell of a lot. I live in Wa and lately the weather has been completely unpredictable. I plan on planting in mid to late april. Do you think this will be ok?
I'm amazed that a plant nursery doesn't even know when to order stock!
You can check an almanac which contains frost dates for the U.S. & Canada.

[passittotheleft]

Allright I will do that. Thanks.

[Floyd Soul]

Youd probably find it online somewhere too.

[WishIWasAHippie]

Ranger, I started my plants in beer cups (due to lack of availability of pots and that's generally how I start things) but I'm worried they'll tip, any ideas to make them stable that don't require burying them (worried about too much rain)

[buffoonman]

Sorry to bust in am trying 3 plants outside for the first time in the UK. Can excessive rain be damaging during flowering. How can I keep pests off plants i.e catterpillas mites etc. Have started the plants indoors but dont know when to plant outside. In England we can get frost right through April. Can they handle a frostie spell?

[rangerdanger]

WIWAH:
I don't understand. Why don't you plant them in the ground?

P.S. you can usually get used planters free at a plant nursery. Make sure to wash before re-using.

[WishIWasAHippie]

Bury the plants with the beer cups in the ground, or bury the plants directly into the ground?

I can't put the plants directly in because it rains a whole shitload in the summer in Florida (for about 45 minutes non-stop pounding rain at about 3 everyday, then sun for the rest of the day)

If I bury the beer cups, won't the plant get all the water from the ground?

[rangerdanger]

First off, you shouldn't have used beer cups.

Here's what ya do:
Get an empty 3-liter plastic container and make a mini greenhouse for each one (detailed instructions somewhere on this thread).
Carefully transplant into the soil (ditch the cups).
Usually, by the time the young plant outgrows it's little home, it's put down enough roots to anchor it in place.

If you don't fancy downing that much soda, cut a deal with a local recycler.

buffoonman, while marijuana is a highly adadaptable plant, the UK is not pot cultivation-friendly. Not enough sunshine and warm weather.
Some strains of pot hold up well under frosts, can even survive a snowfall, but some die off from a hard frost.
I'd say give it a go. What have you got to lose? Maybe this year with all this global warming, the UK will have a long hot summer.

[buffoonman]

Cheers Ranger my friend grows outdoors in the UK and is quite successful. Ive now been told to plant out from the beginning of May and get the earliest flowing strain possible. Might try some Lowryders for a bit off fun. Nirvana claim to have a lowryder cross that is potent.

[rangerdanger]

Anyone still with me?
Planting time is fast approaching, here are some things to help you grow massive quantities:

KEEPING DEER AWAY
There are numerous ways.
Most effective:
Get a roll of 4' chicken wire. It comes in rollss like 25' or 50' long. Cut 6' lengths of the roll (this takes a l-o-n-g time and you need snips). Make circle's of these (attach cut ends together with wire) then flatten them for easy transport.
Then get some uprights. These can be 5'--6' lengths of rebar or something similar. I used drapery rods since I had access to them.
When you get to your site, center the wire tube over the plant site and mark. The excavate a trench 6" deep by 1" (use a stick) and place the wire tube in place. Drive the re-bar into the ground with a hammer on the interior of the tube.
Now you have a little cage to protect your plant.

Other ways:
2nd best way is dog shit.
Feed your dog meat the night before and before you leave to tend your garden and bring your pooch and a bran muffin with you.
When you get to your site, give your dog the muffin.
Works on dogs just like people.
Deer will smell the shit and can tell it came from a meateater and stay away.

Get a roll of bailing wire. This is thin, easily bendable wire and is cheap. Get the dull non-shiny kind.
Using existing vegatation/tree's (or re-bar), encircle your grow area.
1 strand 18" off the ground, 1 at 30", the last at 4'.

Ask your local barber to save you some floor sweepings and scatter this near your plants.

Using 2 or more of these in conjunction will help keep your plants deer-safe.

If this seems like a lot of work, consider that each plant can yield as much as a pound or more of buds.

Keep in mind nothing short of a concertina/razor wire-topped chain link fence will keep starving deer away.

[digitalldj]

i'm still with ya...


just realized though me and my buddy who are gonna do it live in a far too suburban area, so we have to drive about an hour and a half away to get ours goin..

since we have to go so far, we kinda got an idea have u ever used like a timed water resoivior?

my buddy says supposidly there are like battery powered timed watering things which i guess u just attach 1 end of hose to from the resioivoir and another hose from it to the plants, i've never heard of anything like this being battery powered, but it seems like it could be decent if there is such a thing

[rangerdanger]

I can tell you a way we automatically watered our plants at one patch we had going for years, but you need a water source, such as a year-round stream or pond.

You will need
-a 12-v battery preferably the kind used for trolling motors (deep cycle).
-1 or 2 solar panels (the kind used to charge car batteries)
-a small 9-v timer
-a submersable 12-v water pump
-a plastic 5-gal. bucket w/lid
-hoses of varying thicknesses
-drip emitters

Get the 12-v battery and solar panels at someplace like Kragens, Napa or large auto-parts store.
Get the small timer at Radio Shack.
Get the water pump at a RV supply place.
Get the hoses and drip emitters at any large builder's supply place like homedepot.

The solar panels charge the battery, the timer turns the pump on for 1 hr/day (bestt time is 8 a.m.). One hose (the largest diameter) goes from the water source (put a mesh filter or sock over the intake to keep out sediment) to the bucket in which sits a 12-v pump and filled with water (primer for the pump) with the lid on.
Drill 2 holes near the bottom of the bucket, 1 for intake 1 for outflow.
the main outflow hose goes to the garden area and using splitters run a line to each plant. Put a drip emitter on the end of each hose (1/2 gph in the spring and last 5 weeks of flowering, 1 gph in the summer).
You'll need to tweak it, and visit occasionally to add nutrients.

[40oz and chronic]

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[2cesarewild]

You can even do this with gravity, and take the pump out of the picture. Hang buckets of water in a tree and run 1/4 hose down to a T that connects to a soaker hose placed in a ring with its emitters pointing down into the soil. Of course you still want a timed valve, but that would eliminate the need for a pump if you haven't got the resources. Guerilla irrigation is l33t.

[WishIWasAHippie]

Ranger, do you have any advice on how to get the large pots or any large equipment back to the grow spot? I find it hard to do it...I usually don't see people while I'm walking to my spot...but I'm worried if I'm walking with something suspicious people are gonna get...suspicious haha

Any advice?

[buffoonman]

Good question I have the same problem have found a spot but need to walk with soil spade plants e.t.c past fishermen and people walking there dogs. Then somehow I need to cross a small river.

[buffoonman]

I thoght of a good idea if you drag a dead body along with you people will think you are buring that and not growing plants.

[WishIWasAHippie]

haha good point

[cotter builds]

so i planted about 40 seeds on 4/20 in a 2ft long trench about 3-5inches deep. in loose soil thats on a hill next to a holly tree. gets sun almost all day. around here it rains somewhat frequently and has very high humidity. how long will it take for me to expect sprouts to start happenin? the seeds i had were collected from shwag and mids mostly.

[passittotheleft]

Well judging on if they sprout, you should be seeing some any day now.

[rangerdanger]

You can even do this with gravity, and take the pump out of the picture. Hang buckets of water in a tree and run 1/4 hose down to a T that connects to a soaker hose placed in a ring with its emitters pointing down into the soil. Of course you still want a timed valve, but that would eliminate the need for a pump if you haven't got the resources. Guerilla irrigation is l33t.
How do you intend to get water in the tree buckets?

[rangerdanger]

The biggest piece of equipment you need is a folding shovel.
I would bring my planters out to the site at dawn, when no one was around. If you're concerned about that, forget about planters and dig holes.

You don't plant seeds in a trench. You dig holes 3' x 3' for each plant, 6' apart.

[cotter builds]

yeah, i realized that shortly after postin...went back out and scraped dirt off the top. now the seeds are an inch to half inch from the surface.

[buffoonman]

Would it not be better to germinate them first and grow them an inch or two before planting.

[cotter builds]

i germintated them and put them in the ground....i dont like growing them in pots or anything cause im a very poor feller. a couple years ago i managed to get some plants growin without germinating them....only problem was, a hurricane killed em all before they could mature...they were just beggining to flower too....

[WishIWasAHippie]

I know the pain of losing a grow to a hurricane...

I was seperated from my plant haha...had no chance to move it because the park was closed for the week when they knew the hurricane was coming...but they had 1 guy at both enterances and I couldn't park my car on the side of the road...cops everywhere...civilians no where...

[cotter builds]

i didnt have it that bad....we just didnt anticipate the hurricane comin up this far....by the time we knew it was coming, the storm surge flooded the route to get to the plants. marijuana plants + hurricane = :(

[digitalldj]

when is it gonna be too late to plant?

[rangerdanger]

Every day from here on out means less yield.
You could concievedly plant as late as Aug. 1 and still get some pot but it'd just be a few grams of weak bud.
But why wait?

[mikey palmice]

Ok, rangerdanger, I read this entire thread and would like to first thank you for the time spent on it.

If I just wanted to grow one plant on my deck in a pot, would now be a good time to start?

I don't have an indoor growing area, but is there anything I can do before putting the seeds into the pot outside?

I want to just buy some seeds and give one plant a try. Do I have to test the seeds first inside to determine if they are female by planting them in small cups?

If I put one plant in a pot on my deck, how high will it grow?

Would it be a bad idea to do this on my deck, I have one acre and houses on all sides, I am worried that it will grow tall and maybe be noticable.

Thanks

[WishIWasAHippie]

Growing 1 lant on your deck will be no problem

To keep it short, do Low Stress Training (google it)

If you don't do training, it can grow anywhere from 2 feet to a monsterous 8 depending on the strain

I wouldn't reccomend growing just 1 because if you grow for 2-3 months to end up with a male...it'd suck.

With that large of an area, if you plant other shrubs and such around it, you can grow about 4-5 plants without anyone noticing...and then you'll have 2-3 females that you can flower that way.

Is it a raised deck? If so, you may want to plant on the fence line (well, near it) because it will make it harder for prying eyes to see.

[WishIWasAHippie]

...Ps....be creative http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif...some of us wish we had the luxury of our backyards...we're out in the woods haha

[rangerdanger]

You won't be able to tell sex until Sept.

People with growrooms can take clones off vegging plants and sex the clones but it doesn't seem you have that option.
You said you have an acre of land...why not plant out in the ground?
By creative topping you can make the plant grow in a dome shape. Attach some fake flowers and berries and it won't even look like pot.
If you plant in containers, use the biggest possible (at LEAST 5 gal.) and make sure you have good drainage.
AND
1 plant per container.
Just plant each seed sideways, 1/2" deep.

[buffoonman]

Grow an indica strain these tend to grow short and stocky whearas sativas strains can grow really tall. Afghani, kush, hash plant are a few indicas to name just a few. I would grow 3 or 4 plants to increase your odds of getting a female. As soon as they show sex you can remove the males. Theres also the option of buying feminised seeds wich are a little more expensive.

[WishIWasAHippie]

Just bumping this to the first page because it would help a lot of the threads that we've been getting from new people...which is ironically the reason this even ended up on the second page...

[rangerdanger]

Ok you lazy little maggots have you been busy hiking trails, poking around for a good spot for your guerilla garden, or better yet do you have a site and all already to rock?
I hope so because once the sire is located, the holes are dug/amended or planters in place and filled comes the easy part.
All ya gotta do is go out every 3 days and water/fertilize the plants.
If it rains that's great; it saves you a trip.

If you are wise beyond your years you have a dependable grow buddy, and your location passes within driving distance to a campground.
People who are in tune with nature make better gardeners.
I don't have a green thumb. But as a backpacker of no little reknown I am in tune with nature, and know what my plants need and when.

The best of all worlds is if there is a little-used backpack campground a few miles hike from your garden.
Spark a fattie, crank up Get Together kick back and imagine...
It's a warm summer day. You hike in and make camp. Then eat some shrooms and spash around in a cool stream.
Late afternoon fish and catch a few tasty trout/bass/catfish etc.
Start a campfire. When you have a gdod bed of coals toss in a foil-wrapped potato, then cook up the fish (or roast some wienies) while burning a fattie.
Eat, roast marshmello's and get falling down drunk. Then get up at dawn and go water your plants.

I did this for like 25 years.
Some of my best memories occured while camping.
Like meeting a girl who I later on had the best sex I've ever had with oh baby oh baby. Thanks Brenda.
Like stumbling on a group of naked hippie's who I am still the best of friends with.
Like my Kaos In The Kanyon mini-raves (35--50 people).

Note: Don't talk about pot, especially about cultivation with anyone you meet hiking/camping.

If you can't go backpacking, at least camp out at drive-in campgrounds.

[shockseventyfour]

damn that sounds like fun. I'm up in New England and I was talking to a gardener the other day and he said the last frost threat is this week so I guess it all depends on where you are.

[Willy_Wonka_27]

i have been following this plan since the beginning. i have 12 plants that are about 3 weeks old now that i started inside. i was recently busted by the cops at school, and i was concerned about a search of my home. i removed the plants from my room and planted them in a temporary spot in the woods about 10 days ago.
anyway. now that the heat is off me for a little bit i would like to move the plants to my permanent location. all 12 plants are at least on there 3-4th pair of leaves.
do you think it is feasible to move all or some of them. i don't know how far the root growth is at this point, and i want to move them with the least stress to the plants as possible.

[the_midnight_rider]

i have a question...when you say one plant per 3' by 3' hole, does that mean only one seed per that 3' by 3' hole i tediously dug? cause that sure is a lot of digging and the amounts of soil you would need for say six seeds would be very large
(around 12 bags)

[rangerdanger]

W W 27: Dig up as much of the surrounding soil they're in now--say 8" and 8" deep, put these in planters or other suitable containers and tranport these to your perm. site.

Dig a hole in your prepared soil the same size as the plant and surrounding dirt you just brought there.
Inotherwords, try to disturb the roots as little as possible.


t m r:
Actually you should plant 3 seeds per 3' x 3' hole, and after a week or 2 cut off the 2 shorter ones with scossors at soil level, leaving the strongest.
The 2 most labor-intensive job in guerilla growing is digging the holes and transporting the soil.
It takes approx 2 cu ft to fill a 3' x 3' hole. A 2 cu. ft. sack of potting soil weighs about 80 pounds. For each hole I would have to split the bag up into 3 loads and backpack out 3 times per hole.
Hard? Hell yeah. But soil and sun are the two most important factors in growing pot.
Now, occasioanly I'd locate a grow site near a stream. Sometimes the soil would be pretty good (near pine tree's though is bad). You want rich dark soil, not hard packed. Look for bends in the stream and piles of rocks where leaves and twigs might get washed to and collect (and decompose) during winter rains.
If you've got rich, good draining soil, you can get by with mixing quality potting soil with existing soil on a 50/50 basis. You will spend less on potting soil but more on nutrients (but then again nutrients don't weigh NEARLY as much as potting soil).

The advice I give is geared to getting you the best possible yield.

A few years back I offered a friend part of a patch where I was growing for him to grow. I said "you prep and plant them, chip in for nutrients and I'll water them when you can't".
He didn't feel like hauling potting soil and against my advice he just dug up some mucky junk from near the stream and mixed that 50/50 with the soil where he dug the holes.
Most everything else was the same--same nutrients, same amt. of sun, etc.
The end result--,y plants yielded twice as much bud as his.
My plants weren't all that much taller than his, but mine were bushier (had lots more branches) and the buds were bigger.
So I eneded up with lots more pot per plant than he did, and by the time I harvested ,the aches and pains from hauling our that potting soil was long forgotten.
So it all boils down to this:
do what you want. If you want to save some sweat and don't mind having fewer buds, by all means go that route.
Personally, I think the extra effort is well worth a little extra sweat and a few sore muscles.

[buffoonman]

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[rangerdanger]

Nutrients/fertilizers indicate the composition by N-P-K, which stands for Nitrogen, Phosphorus and Potassium (Potash).
For veg you want something that is highest in the first number, like 10-5-5. Nitrogen is needed for growth and make plants a beautiful vibrant emerald green.
And use organic nutrients. For rock bottom $$ you can use a tea made out of chicken shit (buy it or use well-rotted chicken shit from your coop, the hard dusty stuff from the bottom of the pile). Fill up a 5 gal. buckets 1/5 full of chicken shit, the fill to the top with water. Stir it several times/day. It smells terrible and may make you gag.
Do this for 2 weeks and now you've got concentrated fertilizer for a few pennies.
Add 1/2 cup of this to every gal. of water you use on your plants.
Or better use something like Fox Farms nutrients.

[boothy]

is it too late for me to start planting? and how easy is it to do it in the UK... temparatures in summer of around 30 decrees centigrade at the highest, rapidly gets quite cold nearer winter... will it still work, and when is the maximum deadline i can plant by?

and if its too late to start planting outdoors... is there anyway i could speed up the growing process (indoor growing for example) and then m ove it too outdoors, when it has caught up with how it should be, if ya get me :)

[Willy_Wonka_27]

damn, i never got a chance to move my plants to a permanent spot and all of them got ripped out. but its cool.
I'm gonna keep checking out this thread anyway. theres gonna be some good bud shots later on.

[rangerdanger]

boothy, I'm the wrong guy to ask about growing in the UK/Europe.
I've always been told that weather conditions, especially in the UK/Ireland, are very poor when it comes to growing pot.
Pot needs lots of sun & warm weather all the way to mid-Oct.
Someone I know who is from Scotland says that to grow pot in the UK you need to bring them inside to a growroom in Sept. to finish.

[buffoonman]

Down south it is unusual to get frost before the end of October.
Some of the strongest herb I have smoked was grown outdoors in Herefordshire thats in England.

[boothy]

boothy, I'm the wrong guy to ask about growing in the UK/Europe.
I've always been told that weather conditions, especially in the UK/Ireland, are very poor when it comes to growing pot.
Pot needs lots of sun & warm weather all the way to mid-Oct.
Someone I know who is from Scotland says that to grow pot in the UK you need to bring them inside to a growroom in Sept. to finish.Yeah I wasn't holding much hope for a UK outdoor grow, but sooner or later I will give it a go indoors :)

[buffoonman]

My mate used to grow an outdoor strain called Bradford Bastard.

[sweetj17]

Well, I had about 50 seeds in a plastic zip lock baggie on top of a moist paper towel. Of course, they germinated. I don't have an area to start them indoors, or any lights for that matter. 2 of my buddies are starting 86 plants in his closet, he's got no room, so I can't start them there. I have a spot picked out to grow, but I need to know if I can successfully start them outside.

Can I start them in small pots with a larger plastic Zip lock bag over them? Wouldn't it act as a sort of greenhouse?

Any help is appreciated... thanks

[rangerdanger]

Put each sprout in it's own 6" container (the kind house plants come in) filled with quality potting soil. Put them outside in shade for the first 3 days then partial shade for 3 days.
Pick a site and prep it as per my instructions.

Tell your friend he needs 6000 lumens per sq/ft in his closet (regular lights don't work). Also tell him he has to have powered flo-thru ventilation and no more than 1 plant per sq/ft.

[sweetj17]

Thanks for the information! I guess it would make sense to keep them in shade for the first 3 days. I'll also let my friend know about what to do with the closet situation.

[Floyd Soul]

If you can grow pumpkins and sweetcorn successfully outdoors in Ireland and England, then with a suitable strain, perhaps pot too?

Provided it's in a sheltered, sunny spot, and the summer turns out a good one!

[Floyd Soul]

If you can grow pumpkins and sweetcorn successfully outdoors in Ireland and England, then with a suitable strain, perhaps pot too?

Provided it's in a sheltered, sunny spot, and the summer turns out a good one!

[buffoonman]

Yes mine are out in the boiling sun. We should see no frost before the end of October.

[lizziet84]

is it safe for your plants to be exposed to the sun like that? i know they need the sun for them too grow but wont they wilt if they left out there too long?

[rangerdanger]

is it safe for your plants to be exposed to the sun like that? i know they need the sun for them too grow but wont they wilt if they left out there too long?
I don't think it's possible, if you provide adequate water, for a pot plant to get too much sun.
Marijuana LOVES sun. The biggest plant of the most potent pot I've ever grow was a plant on a hilltop.
It was the first point in the area that got sun in the a.m. and the last to lose it at dusk.

[sweetj17]

well i took your advice i prepped a new area got 15 small 6" containers, using organic soil. I bought some cow manure, too. I guess its high in N my friend told me to mix some of it in with the other soil. Of course, i'll take your advice and put them in the shade...should I use a blanket? (not to cover them, just provide shade) About watering... will the soil stay moist if I water once a day, provided they are in shade for the first three days? what happened last time was that I had 15 germinated and in pots, but before they sprouted i had them in direct sunlight, pretty stupid of me. soil dried out, and that was the end of that.

Hope it works this time.

[rangerdanger]

Alright freaks, it's time to get serious.

You hiked and hiked and found the perfect spot, dug holes, hauled potting soil and have been making those long treks every 2--4 days to keep your plants watered and fertilized.
Now it's mid-July and things start to get interesting.

I just noticed one of my 12 plants start to begin flowering. Over the next 4 weeks they'll all start.
For me this is not that important. All of my plants are clones from known females. But for people who grew from seeds you gotta watch your plants like a hawk.
Because during the next 5--6 weeks (could be tomorrow could be Sept.1 or anywhere in between).
And you want to get rid of the males. Rip them up without mercy.

Anyway I'm jazzed. I always look forward to this time of year. It's amazing watching the plants develop, and observing the buds forming.
Keep at it dudes, we're coming into the home stretch.

[buffoonman]

Rangerdanger trying my first outdoor grow in the UK after following your thread. Everything is going well so far. Plants are now a good size and looking healthy. I am a bit worried about the rains and bad weather to come in the later half of september. Especially as the plants have gotten this far. Was thinking of erecting one of those lightweight portable slot together, polythene greenhouses. What do you reckon? Is it a good idea or can I get by without it. Is there any problems you know of associated with greenhouses apart from being seen?

[rangerdanger]

I just did my a.m. watering and I noticed another plant starting to flower.
And yesterday I visited a friend and one of his 7 plants is beginning to flower.

B-man, I don't have any experiences with greehouses.

The problems I've read of UK outdoor growers having is the lack of bright sunlight and warm temps during Sept & Oct. A greenhouse will help with warmth but won't provide more light.

[buffoonman]

In the UK we don't normally get any frost untill well into November. Will keep you posted how it goes.

[buffoonman]

sorry ,posted twice

[Blakkout]

This is one of the best threads I've read on this forum. Amazing job so far Ranger...

[buffoonman]

I agree it certainly en