So I am smoking legally for the first time

[lynsey]

right now and it feels different-like not as fun. The lack of deviance makes it feel, well rather medicinal as oppossed to freeing. Plus it was a bitch to get, mush easier to get from just somone around than a licensed grower.Thoughts?

[Raving Sultan]

you can always roll your joints out of a dollar bill and be destroying govt property while smoking

[Trippin' Billies]

lmao sultan

[ConcealedCulture]

Did you get a medical card? And yeah, the forbidden fruit thing is why a lot of people smoke. Just another reason to legalize..

[TopNotchStoner]

Shit, I'd be smoked out, legal or not. If that is enough to make you not wanna smoke, you shouldn't be smoking for recreation, anyway.

[ConcealedCulture]

Yeah, I will smoke just as much when it becomes legal.

[lynsey]

yep picture and all. and ya know what I look kinda stoned in my picture heh it's funny to be stoned on my stoner card lol(:Did you get a medical card? And yeah, the forbidden fruit thing is why a lot of people smoke. Just another reason to legalize..

[Pinhead]

what do u hav 2 make it legal 4 u 2 smoke it?

[generic]

like multiple scelerosis or arthritis i think, but in the Uk you get these crappy THC pills instead. Just bland when used recreationally cos i think it's the mix of chemicals in bud like THC CBD CBN etc that make the high enjoyable.

[Pinhead]

cool. i think i might 'develop' some chronic pain an hav 2 smoke weed to help me :D

[MikeE]

Until the government stops putting sick people in jail for using medical mearijuana, I'm going to continue getting high illegally.

Faking illess and claiming that I am entitled to use medical pot is not how I support our truely ill brothers and sisters in federal prison.

[ConcealedCulture]

In CA, you can get a card for any ailment that can be treated with cannabis, including psychological/mood disorders. What county do you live in lynsey?

[LuMpYtRiChOmEy]

Everyone who can should tryan get a med card for whatever reson they can even if its just to make it more comonplace. Making this stuff closer to legal is way beyond you and me, its for doin the rite thing for the enviorment. No one really cares if you wanna light up a bowl and no ones tryin to protect you from yourself. Sad fact is, if the powers that be in control here on earth allow you and me to light up some Herb theyd have to allow you to grow it for petrolium replacement and pharmacutical replacement purposes too. Just like the guy on tv says, you cant copyrite a herb but you can copyrite a drug. Take a look at the tag on your couch that your not supposed to rip off and read it, made outa petro aint it? Just bout your whole fukkin couch is made outa somekinda petro chem based shitt. Thats whats the deal were dealin in. Congradulations on the med card Lynsey! I hope that whenever you smoke your Herb it takes you to the Church inside yourself. Blessins on you!

[MikeE]

Marijuana should be legal for both medicine and recreation. However it isn't. Even in states where state law permits medical marijuana, the feds arrest and imprison sick people for using it as medicine.

Choosing between two evils, I would prefer that I, who use pot for recreation, suffer from government idiocy before they imprison the truely ill people who need it for medicine.
Getting a doctor's note, "even if its just to make it more comonplace", feels to me to be hiding among sick people crying "don't hurt us". I prefer to say "me first!" while blocking their path to the sick folks.
By choosing to act outside the law, we must make sure of our ethics. Getting unwarrented med cards is an ethical issue for pot outlaws in more and more states.

My friends are divided on this issue, but I urge anyone who tries to get an unneeded med. card to consider the issue and be aware when they make their choice.

These comments are NOT directed at any ill person who is looking for medicine. Nor am I making any assupmtions about the medical needs of any of the posters in this thread. The issue only arises when when someone thinks about getting a med. card so they can get high "legally."

[LuMpYtRiChOmEy]

I bet that most of the Folks who say they use Herb for med resons but are actually gettin "high" prolly dont come to a full complete stop at stopsigns either. I personaly cant stand it when someone just rolls threw a stop sighn! I got a real ethical issue with that! Dose anybody roll threw stop sighns around here? :) Heh heh

[MikeE]

Just trying to point out an issue. I can see why people would want to make either choice. I just want people to see there is a decision for them to make.

I'll bet those rolling stoppers aren't on a motorcycle. (I almost got killed that way 5 minutes into my first ride.:&)

[LuMpYtRiChOmEy]

Now then. We can see wich criminal activity is more dangerous! :)

[synaptic aether]

right now and it feels different-like not as fun. The lack of deviance makes it feel, well rather medicinal as oppossed to freeing. Plus it was a bitch to get, mush easier to get from just somone around than a licensed grower.Thoughts?hehe i've always thought that would happen for most people, including myself. but you could try viewing it in a different way now. like, think about all the things you liked about it besides the illegality and focus on that 'till you have a new formed love for it. *shrug* that's what i'd do, anyway. i'd focus on how i like the increse of patients, understanding, acceptance and how much fun everything becomes.

[Pinhead]

marijuana is also a good hangover cure

[WishIWasAHippie]

With your license, are you able to grow? Because if you can, get to work :)

[jamman]

I bet that most of the Folks who say they use Herb for med resons but are actually gettin "high" prolly dont come to a full complete stop at stopsigns either. I personaly cant stand it when someone just rolls threw a stop sighn! I got a real ethical issue with that! Dose anybody roll threw stop sighns around here? :) Heh heh
why is that an ethical issue for you? Is it because of the law, or safety reasons. Because where i live (in the middle of no where) there are quite a few spots where rolling with not be dangerous at allll in any way. I wouldn't doit in traffic, but thats because of safety. If i'm not affecting anyone else (or myself actually) how is it unethical?

And also i'm not sure i get the connection between rolling signs and people justifying their getting high with fake illnesses. If they do that than they're probably concerned with legality, therefore would care more about stopping at a sign than one who smokes illegaly...

[LuMpYtRiChOmEy]

The conection is comical at best but it could be used to show that rolling threw a stopsighn without stoping is mush more dangerous than saying you need Herb for medical resons just to be able to get "high" legaly. You could also actually get hurt and hurt others rolling threw stopsighns. Really what Im sayin is that we gotta do whatever we gotta do to make Herb an accepted part of life and if we fein an illness in order to skirt the law we should in order to partake in one of our God given rights. The more openly we smoke our Herb the more comonplace it becomes and it should be comonplace to see normal Folks smokin Herb responsibly. Im just tryin to point out here that the bigger crime is actually rollin threw stopsighns. :)

[PokeSmot]

I don't get the fact that my grandfather, whos like 80-something, can take a pill to make his dick hard, yet I can't smoke a plant that grows in the wild.

[LuMpYtRiChOmEy]

^^^^Another fine example of how society's got its priorities screwed up. For some reason$$ the goverment seems to think its more better for gramps to have a boner than it is for me to smoke my Herb. Boners can be verry dangerous things even in the hands of a 70 year old. My Herbs compleaty harmless! You could eat a pound of it and you still couldnt hurt yourself! Only a fool wouldnt know the priorities of the powers that be. For the sake of the dollar theyl put a loaded boner in the hands of a 70 year old.

[Lilyrayne]

I prefer to say "me first!" while blocking their path to the sick folks.
Wow, dude, that's really honorable. I respect you for that.

For the record, I am one of those who needs MJ medically. I might ;)have only smoked it recreationally just once. All the other times I might ;) have smoked it would have been for medicinal reasons, to get relief from a chronic vestibular condition that I suffer from. I think MJ should be legal, medical or not, but at the very least for medical reasons because honestly, sometimes nothing else works. Unfortunately I live in a state where you can't get a med card. :( So for me, it's either suffer or break a law. I don't like either choice.

[MikeE]

Just to clear up a couple of matters.

One, the ethics I am concerned with is truthfulness not obedience to the law.

Two, I am not even suggesting that others follow my path. I am pointing out that path (it seems to be a little known path). But I am not critisising those who use fake scripts.

And, as I said before, I have no issue with anyone who feels they have a medical need.

[LuMpYtRiChOmEy]

Im most concerned with lyein stopsighn roller threwers! When a man lies and says he needs Herb for meds when he just needs Herb for personal use he commits a lesser moral offence than a man who rolls threw stopsighns. How many sick Folks have you helped by jumpin in fronta them rite before they got busted and yellin "NO TAKE ME INSTEAD! I ONLY USE HERB RECREATIONALLY!". Do ya think it would work anyway? Why do ya pick this issue to be "truthfull" and then roll threw stopsighns? You could actually kill someone rollin threw stopsighns. Hey. Mabey if ya went to your local pd you could take yer Herb in and turn yourself in and tellem,-There ya go, now yous can take the day off and not arrest any med users because I turned myself in? Hey.. Now theres an idea for ya- Why dontcha go an turn yourself in as a sacrifice. Mabey theyl understand exactyl whatcher doin and prolly let alla the med users go! Dontcha see dude? No one recognizez your effort. Satisfying your sense of ethics while the mater at hand gets outa hand turns your ethics into a mute issue. It seems that at this time we gotta work outside the law to make Herb an accepted part or life. The more we use it responsibly out in the open(when its wize) the more normal it gets. If we cant use it in front of some Folks we should at least talk about it in a positive light so they can get to know it better. Blessins

[MikeE]

.. The more we use it responsibly out in the open(when its wize) the more normal it gets. If we cant use it in front of some Folks we should at least talk about it in a positive light so they can get to know it better. BlessinsHear! Hear!

Showing postive, responsible marijuana use is something that we both agree on.

Have fun!