help for a heroin user

[Psylence]

Ok so I am on probation and the only drug I do is heroin and oxi's.. I shoot up (no lectures, please)
and i have a test on the 20th..I havent been using to get high in the past week, only enough to not get sick...
so what can i do to pas this test. i am not going to use untill the test..so will i be clean in 4 days or do i need to do stuff to help me pass?

[camper]

I don't know how long you have to be clean to pass a urine. What about methadone? Kind of lecturing. Better than going to jail.

[El Guzano]

Ok so I am on probation and the only drug I do is heroin and oxi's.. I shoot up (no lectures, please)
and i have a test on the 20th..I havent been using to get high in the past week, only enough to not get sick...
so what can i do to pas this test. i am not going to use untill the test..so will i be clean in 4 days or do i need to do stuff to help me pass?..

[lordcthulhu]

You can try one of those expensive detoxifiers, alot of money, but i hear they work. The easiest(er actually hardest in your case) would be to stop heroin use and go through withdrawl while drinking alot of water. Also take multi-vitamins to clean out yer system.

OH! and i forgot niacin. I took 6 niacin the night before my test and 2 more pills every two hours before the test and passed. This is the only one I know for sure, cuz it worked for me. Niacin is also very cheap, i got 50 40mg pills at walgreens for somewhere around 2.75. If your getting a standard drug test, I'm sure this will work, but I dont know how it'll make you feel combined with heroin. When I took the six pills before I went to bed, I got really really HOT, but I still fell asleep.

If I was in your situation I'd go to rehab becuase you obviously cant funtion without heroin, but as for the drug test I'd still try to stop using for at least a week and drink tons of water along with multi-vitamins. Then the day before the test I'd take the six niacin pills at night, the next day I would take two more every two hours. That should help you piss clean.

[Psylence]

You can try one of those expensive detoxifiers, alot of money, but i hear they work. The easiest(er actually hardest in your case) would be to stop heroin use and go through withdrawl while drinking alot of water. Also take multi-vitamins to clean out yer system.

OH! and i forgot niacin. I took 6 niacin the night before my test and 2 more pills every two hours before the test and passed. This is the only one I know for sure, cuz it worked for me. Niacin is also very cheap, i got 50 40mg pills at walgreens for somewhere around 2.75. If your getting a standard drug test, I'm sure this will work, but I dont know how it'll make you feel combined with heroin. When I took the six pills before I went to bed, I got really really HOT, but I still fell asleep.

If I was in your situation I'd go to rehab becuase you obviously cant funtion without heroin, but as for the drug test I'd still try to stop using for at least a week and drink tons of water along with multi-vitamins. Then the day before the test I'd take the six niacin pills at night, the next day I would take two more every two hours. That should help you piss clean.
Thanks, i hope it works

[Psylence]

..
dont you have anything better to do? yeah im a junkie and i prolly rob your fucking house to get a bag..so what?

[seancourt]

dont you have anything better to do? yeah im a junkie and i prolly rob your fucking house to get a bag..so what?Does that make you proud?

[illusion25]

dude you can be clean from herion within 2-3 days easy. just drink water and stay clean. you will pass the piss test. tust me...i

[IronGoth]

Kick that crap and get a life.

[Psylence]

Kick that crap and get a life.Ok a life? I run my own bussines laying marble floors, I make about 65,000$ a year. I have 2 kids, and the oldest is in a private school, My girl is in collage to be a nurse..she looks like a fucking model..(no lie) I own my house and rent out my other one...we both have new cars....
I sell just enough of this shit so i get my dope for free. I have been shooting opiates for 5 years and havent had to pay for them in about 2 years, so my use other than my probation (I damn near killed a guy for grabbing my girl at a bar) doesnt not get in the way of my life...
so I have this LIFE thing figured out,
Did you feel better about yourself for saying that?

[Psylence]

dude you can be clean from herion within 2-3 days easy. just drink water and stay clean. you will pass the piss test. tust me...i
thank you..you have been the only person I can really talk to on here about this avenue of drug use..i wish ppl that contribute nothing to the topic would not even post..thanks again man

[Psylence]

Does that make you proud?
I was being sarcastic...

[2cesarewild]

Ok a life? I run my own bussines laying marble floors, I make about 65,000$ a year. I have 2 kids, and the oldest is in a private school, My girl is in collage to be a nurse..she looks like a fucking model..(no lie) I own my house and rent out my other one...we both have new cars....
I sell just enough of this shit so i get my dope for free. I have been shooting opiates for 5 years and havent had to pay for them in about 2 years, so my use other than my probation (I damn near killed a guy for grabbing my girl at a bar) doesnt not get in the way of my life...
so I have this LIFE thing figured out,
Did you feel better about yourself for saying that?And behind all that, you're still a junkie who is so goddammed stupid that you talk about your conspiracy to manufacture mdma in a public forum. Next you admit to slanging schedule 1 substances to feed your habit. You're an idiot, and I feel bad for your children if you don't smarten up.

[Blissful Thinking]

Sure fire way to pass any test for heroin. The only method I have found to be right on every time so far. First step is to ingest ATLEAST 10-12grams of rat poison, as this will begin the process of cleaning your system. Step two is a little bit harder to follow. STOP BEING A FUCKING SELFISH ASSHOLE AND SHOW SOME RESPECT FOR HAVING A GOD DAMN FAMILY, PUT THE NEEDLE DOWN ASSHOLE. Step three is simple, piss in the cup. Your 100% guaranteed to be clean, no worries.

<3
-Bliss

[Psylence]

maybe you are jealous that I am a fucntioning drug addict, for one I NEVER have drugs in my house, and NEVER bring them around my kids EVER. Im sorry that I have a grip on my addcition and Im not saying that Im immune to the consequencs, but I have a good handle on it for years, so untill it really gets in the way, im not going to stop, But trust me, I care about my family and my job much more than anything else ion the world, and dont you DARE say other wise, you dont know me. Im not some dreeaded out veggie eating liberal scum bag...I work, i pay my taxes, I volunteer with the american red cross, i teach CPR to babysitters and gave 3 mo. of my life to the 2004 hurricane season.
I know that when you hear heroin user , you assume some dirty , low life and yeah 99% of the people that use any drug are, but some of us can manage, so dont judge me, cuz im pretty sure I have more at 24, then most of you will your entire lives

[Bassist]

cuz im pretty sure I have more at 24, then most of you will your entire lives
You have money, cars, a family, etc....but you need heroin to get by.

I have more than you have. I have freedom from chemical dependence.

[Duke of Prunes]

uhhhh it says that he's 24. he couldnt have a child older than six. im thinking he's lying.

[Duke of Prunes]

oh wait nevermind i though he meant that his daughter was training to be a nurse not his wife. the word girl was a little confusing to me. sorry my mistake.

[Bassist]

oh wait nevermind i though he meant that his daughter was training to be a nurse not his wife. the word girl was a little confusing to me. sorry my mistake. It confused me, too...http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

I'm not used to that slang.

[soaringeagle]

ok..i'm not gonna condemn ya or come off as an asshole (hopefuly) but to be honnest what i think your best bet is, instead of even worrying about the piss test, take the initiative, check yourself into a rehab, & get clean..if you do that they wont even give ashit about the test, cause u will be doing what u need to to get off it..its the right thing for you & your family & will keep u out of jail too
i lost a good freind to heroin recently..how woulfd yopur kids feel if they came home & found you lying on the floor dead?
dont worry bout beatting any drug test..worry bout your family, & doing whats right...& that will also keep ypu out of jail
its the only real way to win in this situation

good luck

[seancourt]

Whatever dude, Heroin destroys lives, and even though it hasn't yet, it will destroy yours sooner or later.

[Psylence]

You have money, cars, a family, etc....but you need heroin to get by.

I have more than you have. I have freedom from chemical dependence.
Not so much Ineed it to get by, I mean don't get me wrong I am a addict..but im very clean, I switch needles often, dispose of them at the hospital...
Every now and then i quit just to bet my tolerance down , or if we go on vaction.
I will say that sometimes I wish I would have never started. for the most part it has been fun, sex on this stuff is great, I can last for hours and get her off like a m, times..
Anyway I get your point and even apprecaite the concern that had been expressed In this thread. I know I am playing with fire and someday I will want to quit for good and this is the place i will turn for advice

And that last little commnet, well no shit
I dont see why people have to post off topic im gonna make a junkie bashing thread so you self rightious fucks can feel better about yourselves

[Psylence]

Whatever dude, Heroin destroys lives, and even though it hasn't yet, it will destroy yours sooner or later.
I know what you mean, and im not ignorant to that fact, but im having fun with it right now, and i pray to god that it wont take everthing away that I love...

[Psylence]

oh wait nevermind i though he meant that his daughter was training to be a nurse not his wife. the word girl was a little confusing to me. sorry my mistake.
Yeah I have a 4yr old daughter, a 7mo old daughter and my girl is 20...yeaj I know young when she had the 1st kid (shes not mine but i love her just the same as my own) and we have cats

[Psylence]

ok..i'm not gonna condemn ya or come off as an asshole (hopefuly) but to be honnest what i think your best bet is, instead of even worrying about the piss test, take the initiative, check yourself into a rehab, & get clean..if you do that they wont even give ashit about the test, cause u will be doing what u need to to get off it..its the right thing for you & your family & will keep u out of jail too
i lost a good freind to heroin recently..how woulfd yopur kids feel if they came home & found you lying on the floor dead?
dont worry bout beatting any drug test..worry bout your family, & doing whats right...& that will also keep ypu out of jail
its the only real way to win in this situation

good luck
Thank you so much for putting it like that, I can tell It was heart felt and you werent just saying it to hear yourself talk.....Its just so scary to imagine my life without having that escape

[George]

Have you ever taken LSD during the five years you've been on H? If you have, where did it take you as far as your addiction is concerned. I mean, it doesn't seem to me that you feel you have a problem, you're just asking how to pass a drug test, right? You seem to have you're life completely undercontrol, but obviously you still get some type of pleasure from the drug, connection right. I'm just guessing that you haven't dossed with someones wisdom connected to your thoughts, wisdom such as Ram Dass, Timothy Leary or Aldous Huxley, because I bet, like I said "from my own experience" that in the first three hours after taking LSD, you'd have a nearly complete and deep understanding of exactly why you have the mental addiction in the first place. Sorry for being presumptious, but from my experience with friends has lead me to believe that there's a void in those friends lives in which heroin fills. I bet you'd be able with a little spiritual reading, internal consiousness and a dose of LSD to fill the void that heroin is filling now and jump to a state of mind more sacred than you've ever felt before. All this said assuming you haven't reached the highest point of spiritual awakening that your internal being has known is there ever since the day you were born. I mean if that was you, you would understand a psychedelic way of life, you wouldn't be scared to imagine your life without that escape and ultimately wouldn't do heroin. This is written with love and concern for you, brother, not your family, not you kids, just you, the human in you.

"A truely consious being understands that mans role in the entire dance, is to relieve suffering, that becomes your function, not because it's good to do it but because that's what you do" or "You don't fulfill social responsablity out of a sense of ought or should or fear, you do it because that's what you do.
:Ram Dass

Don't Lay up your tressures where moth and rust corupt and where theves feel in.
:Jesus Christ
Love George

[Psylence]

Have you ever taken LSD during the five years you've been on H? If you have, where did it take you as far as your addiction is concerned. I mean, it doesn't seem to me that you feel you have a problem, you're just asking how to pass a drug test, right? You seem to have you're life completely undercontrol, but obviously you still get some type of pleasure from the drug, connection right. I'm just guessing that you haven't dossed with someones wisdom connected to your thoughts, wisdom such as Ram Dass, Timothy Leary or Aldous Huxley, because I bet, like I said "from my own experience" that in the first three hours after taking LSD, you'd have a nearly complete and deep understanding of exactly why you have the mental addiction in the first place. Sorry for being presumptious, but from my experience with friends has lead me to believe that there's a void in those friends lives in which heroin fills. I bet you'd be able with a little spiritual reading, internal consiousness and a dose of LSD to fill the void that heroin is filling now and jump to a state of mind more sacred than you've ever felt before. All this said assuming you haven't reached the highest point of spiritual awakening that your internal being has known is there ever since the day you were born. I mean if that was you, you would understand a psychedelic way of life, you wouldn't be scared to imagine your life without that escape and ultimately wouldn't do heroin. This is written with love and concern for you, brother, not your family, not you kids, just you, the human in you.

"A truely consious being understands that mans role in the entire dance, is to relieve suffering, that becomes your function, not because it's good to do it but because that's what you do" or "You don't fulfill social responsablity out of a sense of ought or should or fear, you do it because that's what you do.
:Ram Dass

Don't Lay up your tressures where moth and rust corupt and where theves feel in.
:Jesus Christ
Love George
Honestly I have done alot of psychedrlic drug and have had religiuos exp with them as well, I had a mentor in my life from the age of 16-19 and he taught me alot about shamanic plants and things of that nature. I have done DMT, cappi vines, virorla, phalris grass, san pedro, amanitas, salvia, angel trumpets, alot of RC tryptamines and Phenethylamines. Point being I was on a path and didnt do hard drugs, but then he and his g/f moved back to oregon. Im not blaming this on that, but your words reminded me so much of him I had to mention him.
So I am into 7 hours since I last shot up, im gonna try to stop, and get my head and body cleaned up...wish me luck

[dangersun]

good luck =D

[Trippin' Billies]

yeah man, hope you can kick it

[Neuronaut7]

Perhaps I'm just a product of the propaganda machine, since I've not immersed myself in the opiate culture...isn't heroin the "rich man's cocaine?" From what I understand, heroin is a bunch more expensive, so wouldn't that make a case for this guy actually having a salary that more than supports the basic needs?

Tellin him he's trash isn't gonna help him, it's just gonna make him get all defensive. Try and help someone out once in a while.

The kids thing always works, if it doesn't, you don't have a soul.

I hope this guy pulled/ will pull through.

[polymer]

it'll take a lot more than LSD to break the pleasure feedback loop of heavy addiction, LSD is not strong enough for that purpose.

it'll take....ibogaine :)

more effective than even rehab, makes methadone look like a joke.

[LSDPsychonaut]

Ok a life? I run my own bussines laying marble floors, I make about 65,000$ a year. I have 2 kids, and the oldest is in a private school, My girl is in collage to be a nurse..she looks like a fucking model..(no lie) I own my house and rent out my other one...we both have new cars....
I sell just enough of this shit so i get my dope for free. I have been shooting opiates for 5 years and havent had to pay for them in about 2 years, so my use other than my probation (I damn near killed a guy for grabbing my girl at a bar) doesnt not get in the way of my life...
so I have this LIFE thing figured out,
Did you feel better about yourself for saying that?
Sounds like someone has some anger management issues.

[silenceinc]

psylence - you never left that path from 16-19 ... it's here and now - still happening - the plants and spirits are testing you - make good choices - remeber the truth - and stay in de world of love. hope you'll kick the H. man ... !!! ... you might not see it anymore - but that stuff is really bad man ... it might feel good but ... you know what we mean ... . much strength ... don't forget the plants!!

[LSDPsychonaut]

psylence - you never left that path from 16-19 ... it's here and now - still happening - the plants and spirits are testing you - make good choices - remeber the truth - and stay in de world of love. hope you'll kick the H. man ... !!! ... you might not see it anymore - but that stuff is really bad man ... it might feel good but ... you know what we mean ... . much strength ... don't forget the plants!!
Whoa, man. What are you on?

[polymer]

i dunno, but he's got the right idea...

tabernanthe iboga is one such plant (tree, really).

there's been much speculation that it might be the original "tree of life"

[drumminmama]

Look, I kicked this and yes, it IS hell. BUT I got me back without that icy lizard crawling in my soul.

[trippedelia]

Whoa, man. What are you on?
who cares what hes on if it is anything, theres nothing wrong with being high if it gives you that mindset:D

[EarthMusic]

ok ok well here it is when i was 15 i started smokeing and snorting heroine almost everyday and when i was 16 i started shooting it but i have to say it only stays in you r system for 4 days but if your shooting it alot it could stay up to a week or two but if you need any help quiting talk to me i know how it is ive been clean for almost 2 years.

[morrisonforpres]

you just owned the shit out of him man

[freedomforall...ALL]

What happened Psylence, you clean? If so, congratulations. If not, try again.

[trippedelia]

yeah psylence where you at? i hope all is well.

[stalk]

as do i.

[stalk]

This is a digital community,

How can you treat him like that?

He needs help, and only positive support
and facts are going to help,

not derogatory pointless
negative ignorance.

Ugh, bullies.

[hebrewnational00]

idk wat to say to this guy, but 4real for your kids i would quit, cuz u obviously know it destroys lives and i kno u kno its bad and i understand ur addicted, i only live with my dad and if anything would happen to him i wouldnt kno how to feel, or deal with it so...just try to quit man its the right thing to do.
but like all other things in life ITS GONNA BE HARD AND A TIME PROCESS AND ITLL BE WORTH EVERY MINUTE AT THE END...trust me

things that take the most focus and time and pain end up to be worth it the most.
its not easy, but its worth it.
good luck brother.

[roundthewheel]

right on

[MatrimCauthon]

You said you'd quit when if it ever affected your family? Failing the drug test would do that I think.

How you would do it? Hell I don't know. I can't quit smoking, drinking, or jerking off. Hmm, I'm reading the second book of The Dark Tower, let me see how he saves this guy from HEROIN and I'll let you know. Just kidding man, best of luck to you, enjoy life.

[frerich]

Psylence,
Sound like your doing fine. I am new to the site and would like to be added to your friendslist. clint...

[wonderboy]

haha no shit, that blew me away
you just owned the shit out of him man

[Psylence]

What happened Psylence, you clean? If so, congratulations. If not, try again.

Yeah been clean for about 6mo..did rehab...moved to vegas, got a new girl(check my pics)

[mr.morrison]

congrats man!

[Psylence]

Thanks. It was a rough road..living in Las vegas now, makes it rough, but I am doing quite well....I am taking up yoga and kung-fu