some help? hikaru?

[chineseeyesguy420]

tonight, i plan on doing some salvia for my frist time. we are doing the 20x extract. before anyone jumps on me and says "start with a 5x or so" i feel as though i am ready for it. i have done plenty of research and i know the effects and have ready many stories of peoples trips. my question isn't how to smoke it, what should i use or anything.

my question is more of an opinion. there are 2 places i could smoke it tonight. i could smoke it in my room (parents will be home but they know i smoke pot and are completely ok with it) or i should smoke it in a friends shed like thing that is really roomy, complete with a heater and a table and some chairs. i'm pretty sure my parents aren't aware of salvia, although i have told them what it is and that i will be trying it. i am going into this with a clear mind and i don't expect anything to happen that i have read. i am not set of tryin to trip, whatever happens, so be it. like marijuana, i completly respect the plant and will go into my experiance with respect for lady salvia and really just hoping for the best. the only problem i have with smoking in my room is my parents coming in and maybe freaking out because of the effects. like, if i'm tripping and am moving around, i don't want them to come in and get scared. on the other hand, if i'm in the shed, i might be a little cold and that could make me uncomfy. although, i do plan on bringing blankets and what not to make sure i am in a good mind set.

should i have the lights on or off? how about music? should i play a playlist that i like and can relax to? how about a radio sation? i plan to wear some baggy warm clothes. also, i am smoking out of a little metal bowl with a screen. this way, it won't break if i drop it. i am using a regular bic lighter and will hold the flame to the extract while i take my hit.

anything else you guys can provide to help in my experiance, please let me know.

thanks for any replies in advance. keep on tokin, respect yourselfs, but most of all, respect the herb. :)

[seancourt]

Well to start off, if you're doing 20x, theres no way your gonna be getting up and walking around, you're gonna be pretty much physically paralyzed, i would do it in a friends shed, away from my parents, cause you said it yourself, your parents might freak seeing the effects, but take a big ass hit, and hold it in your lungs for a good 20-30 seconds, and don't worry about taking a second hit, cause if you do it right, after your first hit with 20x, you're gonna be tripping BALLS, good luck man.

[seancourt]

And one more thing, make sure you use a trip sitter, just in case bad things happen. Also, some nice and relaxing music would be good, or just some music you really enjoy and can be comfortable in

[seancourt]

Also, i hope you really are ready, becuase your going to be taken on an INSANE ride, and i don't think you even realize it yet, but do watever you feel your ready for. Just don't come back here complaining about how Salvia is just too intense, because you did it to yourself.

[chineseeyesguy420]

thanks for the help. i won't come back and complain. you said it yourself, i am doing this to myself. therefore, i can blame no one but me. i have read stories and know the effects that salvia provides. i'm just gonna sit back and be ready for the ride.

[seancourt]

Sounds good man, i hope you enjoy it.

[chineseeyesguy420]

it should be an experiance i will never forget.

[mellow]

hmm well heres what i think you should do, I definatly think you should do it in your room, its much more comfortable and familiar. Tell your parents that you will be trying it in your room and ask them not to disturb you for the next 30 minutes, if needed maybe put up a do not disturb on your door lol.

I would also do it with the lights dim, with no music. It doesn't really matter what you wear as long as you completly comfortable in it. Also I would definatly use a bong, you prolly wont be able to hold the smoke in for very long out of a pipe...a bic lighter works, but a torch is better.

BTW I always recommend a sitter too ;)

[chineseeyesguy420]

does salvia have a smell? not that it really matters because my parents know that i smoke and they are fine with it, as i said before. i have also smoked with both of them numerous times. i just wanted to know for my sake. depending on when i go to smoke, i might smoke in my room. it is really cold and windy out.

i will probably have a sitter. either a third person or my friend will wait until my trip is over to start his. i am pretty comfy in my clothes that i was going to wear so that won't be a problem. i don't know about the dim lighting because i only have a light that goes on or off. so would you suggest the lights on or off? also, i heard that smoking some weed will cause the salvia not to have its full effects...can anyone clear that up for me?

[Hikaru Zero]

before anyone jumps on me and says "start with a 5x or so" i feel as though i am ready for it.

Yeah?

I thought I was ready for it too.

But I'd never been more wrong in my life.

But, if you feel prepared ... do as you please, I certainly won't stop you.

my question isn't how to smoke it, what should i use or anything.

I'm going to refer you to the thread "More first timer Q's" on this board. I've typed up how to smoke it too many times. If you haven't read that thread yet, it's a good place to start.

like marijuana ... (omitted)

The problem is, you are probably not expecting what Salvia is. You say that you respect the plant, but ... 20x for a first time? That's not what I'd consider to be respect.

the only problem i have with smoking in my room is my parents coming in and maybe freaking out because of the effects. like, if i'm tripping and am moving around, i don't want them to come in and get scared.

I can almost guarantee that you're going to do more than trip and move around if you smoke that 20x your first time. A single hit of 5x can easily send me into an intense trip: think about that. I predict that you'll end up tripping so hard that you'll go way beyond a level 6 experience, and lose consciousness altogether.

does salvia have a smell?

Yes. It's actually a very calm and pleasant smell (in my opinion). It smells kind of minty, almost evergreen in a way. It's not a sticky smell like tobacco. And it'd be virtually impossible to place.

i will probably have a sitter. either a third person or my friend will wait until my trip is over to start his. i am pretty comfy in my clothes that i was going to wear so that won't be a problem. i don't know about the dim lighting because i only have a light that goes on or off. so would you suggest the lights on or off? also, i heard that smoking some weed will cause the salvia not to have its full effects...can anyone clear that up for me?

Good idea to have a sitter.

In my experiences, I have found that bright lights create bright, colourful, vivid trips, and near-darkness creates deep, introspective, and meditative experiences.

As far as smoking weed ... delta-9-THC and salvinorin-A affect some of the same kappa opioid receptors. I've noticed many times that when I smoke a heavy amount of good weed (to the point where you start seeing fractals and lose most of your ability to communicate or navigate), the experience seems reminiscent of a level 3 Salvia trip.

I've smoked weed and done Salvia before ... if I had to compare Salvia with and without weed, I'd have to say that without weed, your thoughts are a bit more "together" and the experience has more of a plot, and with weed, it's more "playful" and random, and possibly because of the randomness it may seem more powerful and disorienting.

Good luck dude.

[chineseeyesguy420]

i do respect it. i didn't skip the 5x. 10x, and 15x, because i feel that ready. i was out numbered when it was ordered so i have to deal with what i can. i wanted to start with a 10x but it didn't go my way. but as going as far as saying that just because i am doing a different grade of salvia for my first try, i wouldn't call it disrespect. i could be wrong and more than likely i will be wrong with wanting to do such a high grade for my first try. however, i do respect salvia and everything that it does. so i would say that i have respect for it.

again, my question wasn't how should i smoke it or anything, it was just a matter of opinion from people who have had experiance and to see what was the best way, setting wise, to do it in so my experiance can be the best as possible.

as far as not expecting what salvia is, i have done my research and have a pretty good idea. i admit that i am no where as good as you with salvia, but i know that if i didn't think i could handle it or even have no respect for the plant, i wouldn't even think about doing it. i am sure that i will be blown away with the experiance. there is no doubt in my mind that it will be more than i could ever expect. going with this, i know that every experiance is different and that nothing can really get me ready for salvia.



side note: hikrau, please don't take any disrespect to my comments here. i mean no disrespect with anything that i have said. i respect your advice and you trying to help me. so thanks again.

[redgreenvines]

you will be comforted by familiar things in your room
but paradoxically
you will be alienated by the strangeness of familiar things
so
just relax and keep on realxing.
as if letting go were the new movement and sense organ combined