Going to the Republican National convention Protest?

[givepeaceachance]

Hey
I was wondering if anyone here was planning on going to the protest in New York on August 29 at the Republican national convention. I was looking for a place to stay that's somewhat near by. Anyone have any ideas?

[Sera Michele]

I am not going, but I do have to saw, please be careful. The haven't handed out any permits to protest (that I know of yet) so it looks like they might be just waiting for trouble.

[Polka Dots and Strip]

Why would people protest at a party conference?

[beachbum7]

I'm sure there will be some hotel rooms in North Jersey. If can find a hotel room (or any relatively inexpensive lodging), you'll be able to find a bus or train that can take you into the city.

[Porkchop_Mcgee]

http://www.protestwarrior.com/nimages/signs/pw_sign_21.gifLets go.

[rainbow doobie]

impeach adolf bush,and charge him with crimes against humanity,genocide,and various other war crimes,this is the u.s.a.,not the u.s.s.a. rainbow doobiehttp://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/mad.gif

[Jozak]

You are basically protesting people's right to assemble, and the elements of democracy we have in our nation. (Since it is a democratic republic). What's the point of protesting that or the DNC convention, or any political party for that matter?

[Eugene]

It is not really protesting their right to assemble, it is more about having all the assholes in one place lined up and ready for the kicking.

[RevoMystic]

it's pretty interesting to see that the rightwing still "patrol" this website on a daily basis...perhaps a small contigent of those working to enforce the "patriot act"?

anyway, for information regarding the RNC protests, check out:

www.rncnotwelcome.org
www.counterconvention.org
www.chicagonewyork.net
www.rncwatch.org
www.democracynow.org

Hundred of thousands of people from all over the country are expected to converge on midtown manhattan...with some planning and coordinating non-violent civil disobedience. A clash a cultures is imminent....

[sadeyedlady]

>>>>>You are basically protesting people's right to assemble, and the elements of democracy we have in our nation. (Since it is a democratic republic). What's the point of protesting that or the DNC convention, or any political party for that matter?


We're not protesting the fact that they're assembling..We're taking the advantage of they fact that they are to protest them and their policies. We WANT them to assemble and aren't trying to stop them.

And if we were protesting someone's right to assemble, that's also a freedom covered by the "elements of democracy." We can protest another person's right as long as we don't infringe on it.

givepeaceachance, I have lots of friends in New York City, and I'm sure I can find you a place to stay if you need it. Give me your email or email me and I'll contact you closer to that time.

[Jozak]

it's pretty interesting to see that the rightwing still "patrol" this website on a daily basis...perhaps a small contigent of those working to enforce the "patriot act"?

anyway, for information regarding the RNC protests, check out:

www.rncnotwelcome.org (http://www.rncnotwelcome.org/)
www.counterconvention.org (http://www.counterconvention.org/)
www.chicagonewyork.net (http://www.chicagonewyork.net/)
www.rncwatch.org (http://www.rncwatch.org/)
www.democracynow.org (http://www.democracynow.org/)

Hundred of thousands of people from all over the country are expected to converge on midtown manhattan...with some planning and coordinating non-violent civil disobedience. A clash a cultures is imminent....
I seriously hope you were not talking about me, I am not even CLOSE to a right winger.

[menlo1]

It's amazing how many people on this board aren't aware that they are right wingers.

[Jozak]

I'm not. I have repeatedly stated my Libertarian views, I am no right winger by any means. It's foolish for someone to sit there and call me a right winger when I'm clearly not.

[stilanas]

Why would people protest at a party conference?
Because Bush is the world's biggest Douche bag.

[The Silky Way]

Just curious but what does one hope to accomplish by protesting a party conference? How tight is the security going to be?? I would think that any protestors would be like 10 miles away. Are protestors going to be able to get close enough to even be noticed??

[DrRobert]

i will be attending the convention in new york, with full plans to demonstate. anyone who feels the same and plans on doing the same, iw ould love to hear from you!!!

[freesue]

:H

Protestors beware. Go, and protest, it's your right. However, be on the look out for instigators of violence. Remember 1968.

Republicans would like nothing better than for violence to errupt. I would bet that there will be those there who will see to it that it does. Then they can be "justified" in hauling all those who express their freedom of speech and their right to assemble off to jail. If violence does errupt, make sure it's not you who starts it and try utmost to see to it that the bruts who DO start it are seen.

This administration wants to stop all those who oppose their positions and actions and if they can silence the voice of dissent, all the better for them. If they can't do it legally, they will do it illegally with "plants" in the crowds to start the shit.

So please be careful. Tho I can't be there physically, I will be with you in spirit. Just remember these wise words...

There's something happening here
What it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware

I think it's time we stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

There's battle lines being drawn
Nobody's right if everybody's wrong
Young people speaking their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind

I think it's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

What a field-day for the heat
A thousand people in the street
Singing songs and carrying signs
Mostly say, hooray for our side

It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away

We better stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, now, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

[Angel_Headed_Hipster]

You are basically protesting people's right to assemble, and the elements of democracy we have in our nation. (Since it is a democratic republic). What's the point of protesting that or the DNC convention, or any political party for that matter?
Because the democratic party no longer represents the working class, or the real americans anymore, and the republican party, well, i think that should be self explanatory why people would protet there...

Peace and Love,
Dan

[freesue]

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You are basically protesting people's right to assemble, and the elements of democracy we have in our nation. (Since it is a democratic republic). What's the point of protesting that or the DNC convention, or any political party for that matter?You are not protesting peoples right to assemble. You are protesting TO those people assembled.

You are there to voice your disagreement with their policies. You are there to show your dissatisfaction with the way they have been running things. Not the "delegates per se, but the parties that they support. If you think it's ok for your government to kill innocent people around the world so they can increase bottom lines for those companies that foot the bill to get them into office, if you like the fact that your government is controlled by the Oil Cartel and Corporate gonglmerates, if you think it's ok for the government to put you under surveillence for no good reason, if you think it's ok to have your elections sabotaged and people denied the right to vote for no good reason, if you like the fact that both parties are bought and sold by corporate America and that those very corporations are the ones in control of your government, if you like the fact that eventually the only free speech that will be allowed is that which supports the ruling class then by all means stay at home and set your apathetic ass down on your couch and watch it all on your local FoxNews channel.

[Jozak]

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You are not protesting peoples right to assemble. You are protesting TO those people assembled.

You are there to voice your disagreement with their policies. You are there to show your dissatisfaction with the way they have been running things. Not the "delegates per se, but the parties that they support.

Okay, fair enough I see your point.


If you think it's ok for your government to kill innocent people around the world so they can increase bottom lines for those companies that foot the bill to get them into office, if you like the fact that your government is controlled by the Oil Cartel and Corporate gonglmerates, if you think it's ok for the government to put you under surveillence for no good reason, if you think it's ok to have your elections sabotaged and people denied the right to vote for no good reason, if you like the fact that both parties are bought and sold by corporate America and that those very corporations are the ones in control of your government, if you like the fact that eventually the only free speech that will be allowed is that which supports the ruling class then by all means stay at home and set your apathetic ass down on your couch and watch it all on your local FoxNews channel.
I am not apathetic the least bit. I am, like you, against a 2 party system, I am a libertarian for the most part, and I am registered voter as a libertarian. Chill the fuck out, I was just asking your motives that's all.

[soulrebel51]

i really want to go to this. anybody out west driving through wisconsin?

[Sera Michele]

I'm not. I have repeatedly stated my Libertarian views, I am no right winger by any means. It's foolish for someone to sit there and call me a right winger when I'm clearly not.
Maybe you don't claim to be a republican, but from your posts here it is obvious that you hold conservative values. Maybe people are wrong to imply that you are republican, but I don't think anyoe can argue that you aren't conservative. Which is fine, my parents are pretty conservative, I consider them to be very intelligent people. We have some good political conversations too :P

[menlo1]

Bloomberg isn't going to issue any permits for people to protest at the RNC convention. He's a Republican billionaire in the same boat as Bush.

It was really foolish for the RNC to pick NY for their convention. They thought Bush was going to be seen as a hero after the 911 attack and that he'd win the charm of all the New Yorkers. It was all a Hollywood dream, just like that big production when he was on that boat in San Diego harbor in his old national guard flight suit mimicking MacArthur and saying 'bring em on'.

[freesue]

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I am not apathetic the least bit. I am, like you, against a 2 party system, I am a libertarian for the most part, and I am registered voter as a libertarian. Chill the fuck out, I was just asking your motives that's all.;)
Sorry if I perceived apathy where there is none. It's just that nothing ruffles my feathers more than apathy amongst people. I personally blame apathy for alot of our problems. Low voter turn outs etc. Also, there are so many folks these days who just accept the status quo with an attitude of "...it's not affecting me in my backyard, so why should I get involved...". I remember when the war protests were going on there was a few folks here who were pissed at the protester because they were an inconvenience to their daily commute. So many people talk the talk but are unwillingly to walk the walk..

So, like I said, sorry if I misperceived.

[chaos]

me and my posse are gonna be there.

don't go to a hotel, many folks have offered space for folks to crash. take a look at the afformentioned websites.

Less talk, more rock!

[Jozak]

Maybe you don't claim to be a republican, but from your posts here it is obvious that you hold conservative values. Maybe people are wrong to imply that you are republican, but I don't think anyoe can argue that you aren't conservative. Which is fine, my parents are pretty conservative, I consider them to be very intelligent people. We have some good political conversations too :P
I am conservative WHEN it comes to economics and government. On the old forums, it was apparent that I supported gay marrige/civil unions by the state, legalization of marijuana, free speech, uncensored media, etc.

[dangermoose]

right wingers always kick lefties out of their conventions. even in not so police states like canada

[HippieD9]

I am conservative WHEN it comes to economics and government. On the old forums, it was apparent that I supported gay marrige/civil unions by the state, legalization of marijuana, free speech, uncensored media, etc.
Yeah, you support free speech.... Civil Disobediance is still Disobediance... yeah, you're REAL liberal. What a joke.

[dhs]

I was at the Medicinal Marijuana rally in Battery Park during late May. They had clearly stated that there will be no permits issued for group organization within the city during the RNC. Apparently there will be plenty of different impromtu gatherings as close as allowed too MSG, which I'm sure will be quite a distance away as well as in Central Park.

[The Silky Way]

No offense to anyone wanting to protest the RNC, but I don't blame them one bit for not wanting large groups of people assembling around the center. Why doesn't somebody organize a permit legal protest in Washington?? I don't see how being at the RNC would make any more of an impact than D.C. As long as there are enough people protesting I think it would just as eye opening.

[stilanas]

Being in Florida which puts me 1000 miles away from were the even will be held, I highly doubt that I will be able to attend. However, given the "security measures" put in place I should be pretty close to the "free speech" zone.

[soulrebel51]

Being in Florida which puts me 1000 miles away from were the even will be held, I highly doubt that I will be able to attend. However, given the "security measures" put in place I should be pretty close to the "free speech" zone.
haha I got that one.
Looking at a map, I shouldnt be too far from it either:rolleyes:

[Jozak]

Yeah, you support free speech.... Civil Disobediance is still Disobediance... yeah, you're REAL liberal. What a joke.
I am not a "liberal" or a "conservative"---your thinking is so linear. I have my own views on things.

Instead of making assumptions about my picture, you could just ask me in a civil manor and you would know I just think the picture is hillarious.

[EricConk32]

hi i am from toledo ohio and will be attending the rnc protest i was wondering if anyone could help me out with a place to stay. also if anyone would like a ride and you are on the way i would be happy to pick you up my email is EricConk32@aol.com. i am looking forward to this i went to the protest in DC back in feb of 03 and it was amazing.

[NewNoise]

Well, I think protesting at the convention is a good idea. It doesn't have to be about trying to get it stopped, because obviously, that won't happen. It's more to voice your opinion. Let Bush know how you feel about him and his people. Who cares if you're 10 miles away, your voice will be heard.