Is DEA watching us? [Archive]

ccn

11-22-2005, 03:14 PM

With tecknology today and the war on drugs I am wondering How secure this site is? I am not trying to scare aneyone but BIG BROTHER is theret to me. If the DEA is monitering one of us is he monitering all of us? Hackers arnt just kids theas days, their are hakers in the GOV. too. I am new to this site and support it and every one on it (MOST). It is a fantastic forum for us to learn and evolve into true hodiculturelists (you know what I mean). Because I donated to this site my name Credit card # and info is know tied to it. Can any one ease my mind?

SG69

11-22-2005, 08:33 PM

Psykadelik_Budsmoka

12-27-2005, 02:03 PM

I don't care i live in germany, and the dea can lick my hairy ass... Well, the DEA is as criminal as the mafia... They don't only hack, they kill and trade drugs themselves, the fucking hipocrites!

Nolan14

01-04-2006, 05:08 AM

I don't care i live in germany, and the dea can lick my hairy ass... Well, the DEA is as criminal as the mafia... They don't only hack, they kill and trade drugs themselves, the fucking hipocrites!tru tru vops r the worst man.

HerbalTea

01-07-2006, 02:34 AM

Heya ccn-It sure is worth at least a passing thought, about security. And now we've got the NSA doing domestic spying/eavesdropping, supposedly in the name of anti-terrorism, but ya just KNOW who's more likely to get caught up in their draconian, fascist nets. And while Psyk does have a point, Marc Emery prob'ly thought HE was perfectly safe in Canada, too. Those gov't assholes have a lot of pull, my friend, even in foreign countries, and can make your life difficult, even if they can't necessarily touch you.

WeeDMaN

01-07-2006, 07:52 AM

nasty lil buggers arnt they.

syd

01-07-2006, 07:59 AM

They usually post threads like "Hello, I am a hip young bopster who would like to purchase some marijuana in Texas, El Paso" no imagination....

Psykadelik_Budsmoka

01-09-2006, 09:04 PM

Many of these buggers sell drugs themselves! The fuckers secrure the own farms for Coke or Grass, or Heroine and LSD... They only let the drugs pass, when the farmers pay, or the connection pays, or if they produce them theirselves! They (CIA&DEA) raid groups for example Communists in South America and destroy their drug plantations, mainly Cocaine, Opiates and a low amount of Cannabis. But like always money makes the world go round. If the mafia pays, they leave them, even fascist milices are left in peace, when they pay, and support the US!

They ruin peaceful families, who just wanna live in peace, and fuck, who cares, maybe daddy sometimes smokes a joint, and when they recognize they squash the shit out of him!
I think this is a violation of the U.S. Constitution(written on Hemp)

SirTokesAlot

01-09-2006, 09:17 PM

Yup, the DEA watches our every move... you better grab the shotty and go look outside, they are probably after you RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!

geckopelli

01-13-2006, 06:22 PM

I would of been locked up long ago if posting on the web was anything to worry about

THEPRO

03-10-2006, 09:34 AM

I have had the plessure as a window cleaner to walk thru and talk to the natourious dea folks there mostly normal people who understand the unimportance of busting your closett settup so thank your local gakker zombie(meth addic)for taking the attention off of us good stoner people....overgrowthegoverment...THEPRO

tiedye420

03-12-2006, 09:05 PM

I thought the DEA was watching me....
Then I discovered it was just the local plumber, who had bought an old cop car at an auction. Sure looked scary enough to see them drive by lookin my way. Turns out he is a good friend of my neighbor the electrician, and was checking to see if he was home!
This all came not too long after the local homeowners accociation posted threats in thier minutes through the backwoods newspaper here. About how they called the sherrif and no-one was concerned- so they called the newsmedia and DEA and the plants were removed. Fucking assholes. They actually called the dea about my outdoor garden last year. The sheriff was not concerned because he had pictures of my documented medical grow already.
The plants were removed because the highschool kids were giving me problems ripping offmy moms that were outside. I was actually shocked a few weeks later to see the minutes for the Acc. meeting posted stating the above info.
I was pissed that they made it look like they forced me to remove my plants- when I actually just brought them into my bedroom.
But figured I should probably lay low and keep quiet about it ;) L.O.L.
NEEDLESS TO SAY THIS WAS WHEN I STARTED NOTICING THE PLUMBER AND HIS OLD COP CAR DRIVING BY MY HOUSE STARING.
I was actually paranoid for about six weeks on that one...! L.O.L.
I even got a couple friends paranoid- that i felt should know I was being watched.
Fortunatly it was all a false alarm, and the DEA or newsmedia isn't concerned about a small garden either. Because the phone calls did happen, just no-one was interested...
there were over a million plants uprooted in cali this year. I believe at least 90% of them were grown by mexican immigrunts working for some cartel- or working alone.
If your a US BORN CITIZEN- the chances are the DEA is hoping you'll make a profit off it- so the money stays here long enough for them to figure out a way to tax it.
Im hearing they are asking clubs for growers 10-99 forms this year......

Skip

03-27-2006, 09:23 PM

Just assume big brother is ALWAYS watching and act accordingly.

hippiehillbilly

03-27-2006, 09:30 PM

anyone that thinks there not bein monitered here is a fool..

AllieCat

03-27-2006, 09:47 PM

It's not illegal to talk about drugs; it's only illegal to use them.

http://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/1461/stoned.jpg

Skip

03-27-2006, 11:39 PM

It's not illegal to talk about drugs; it's only illegal to use them.

For the time being... That can change.

They've already tried to make just linking to drug information illegal. But the idiots in power couldn't figure out how to make information illegal...

hippiehillbilly

03-27-2006, 11:46 PM

the best goverment is that, that is in debate ,,least when it comes to the global political myth some folks have no choice to bow down to. ;)

we are all still fucked.. ;)

well,, you know what i mean brother..

luv n lite..

tiedye420

03-28-2006, 10:17 PM

If it were not for my medical status, Id be paranoid as heck to visit this or any other site. I was actually a member of this site at the time i got my med status- but was growing in a 2x4 closet so not too worried.
Now i got a bedroom full- but the sheriff has taken pictures of my outdoor garden and documented my med grow. I dont grow more than 60 plants usually- way below enough for the feds to worry about. With two or three scripts here- our numbers are even covered- by exemptions of course.
Screw it if the sherriff can take pics I figure it's ok for me to share a few with my friends online. I don't aknowledge federal laws because they dont aknowledge my vote- I figure turnabout is fair play. I keep it way below the "99" federal limit though.
I grow as many as I need to keep us in smoke- now I need an upgrade so the grow pays for itself- we are moving to a bigger place and leaving the grow- because it's been documented it's safe here.
Any cop wsting his time trying to bust me for posting online- will more than likely find a lawsuit for depriving disabled people of thier right to study medicine instead.

DancerAnnie

03-28-2006, 10:43 PM

It's not illegal to talk about drugs; it's only illegal to use them.

http://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/1461/stoned.jpg
Well, most people on here admit to using them...

HHB is right...anyone who thinks this place isn't monitored by the Fed's is an idiot.

Even a police officer-in-training told me that it's totally monitored, one day when he saw me searching around these forums...

rmorgan

03-31-2006, 10:10 PM

http://www.copssuck.net/

Musicman550

09-13-2006, 08:31 AM

Is it just me or is it when ppl get an idea about the goverment it ends in a parrinoid obssesion for everyone wich can be a mojor buzz kill i will admit i kno that cops are the worst but when you mention something like that everyone gets parrinoid for awhile do they not?

T.H. Cammo

09-13-2006, 08:46 AM

If they are watching - which I'm sure are; they have learned to grow some real kick ass weed by now!!! Maybe they'll stop confiscating our's. LMFAO

buffoonman

09-13-2006, 02:02 PM

My advice would be keep your grow small. You can fit 6 plants in a small cuboard and still get 12 ounces a crop. An ounce a week of the strongest weed out there will keep most smokers happy. Then if you are busted a slap on the wrist is the most likely outcome.

RELAYER

09-13-2006, 02:36 PM

buffoonman

09-14-2006, 02:44 PM

How did you manage to squeeze in here.

RELAYER

09-14-2006, 02:46 PM

Burger grease and milkshakes squeezed all over ;)

buffoonman

09-14-2006, 06:09 PM

gros garçon sneaky.

RELAYER

09-14-2006, 06:14 PM

교활한 여우

RELAYER

09-14-2006, 06:42 PM

Skip (webmaster of hipforums) is actually a government agent...
異常な道化師の武装隊

RELAYER

09-14-2006, 07:07 PM

lol

medicalbud

09-15-2006, 11:37 PM

U.S. Constitution(written on Hemp)

OOOOOO I so like this info thx!

in California with SB420 now out alot are by state law to grow sweet.

WoodstockChild

09-17-2006, 01:54 AM

Screw the DEA.

ConRev

09-17-2006, 02:01 AM

Hi I just joined HF, and I hope some Feds are watching so they can see how totally harmless we are.

In a related matter, can someone explain how I get photos in posts? I tried uploading to a gallery but the files were too big--so do I have to compress them and then link the galleries url? DOn't laugh!

Or do I attach them?

medicalbud

09-17-2006, 02:44 AM

We have medical pot clubs in california for 8 yrs and as long as you have a card obey your state law you should be ok. Or we hope.

ahelpinghand

09-21-2006, 04:35 AM

My understanding is the servers for these forums are located in Amsterdam. The servers would have to be either hacked or supeona-whatever. Nothing is stopping a hack, but as far as legally getting the information, and basing a case solely on your postings, I don't believe Amsterdam would be leveraged into handing over the server info-at least not as easily as if they were located in lets say Canada. However, if they did hack in and gain your personal info, it would be enough for a needy DEA agent to possibly begin an investigation, and if you are slipping in enough areas of your grow or personal/smoking life, a warrant is just around the corner-especially in this age of terrorism, the Patriot act is nuts.

Using a proxy server can greatly cut down on your risk, and if nothing else hide you from your local ISP, which is a biggie if you ask me. If you have the DEA looking in on you you probably did something to attract their attention, like maybe being tipped of by your ISP that 3 hours a day are spent on grow sites...

Another huge thing, IMO, especially if posting, or even surfing and growing, is you drop any and all other non-marijuana drug related activities. Too many growers go down because they get a little money together and want to start blowing and then selling coke or other shit like that. It seems obvious, but who doesn't know someone that's done or doing just that. It's just dumb and a huge percentage of them go down.
The other is to be extra respectful of the neighbors, no parting, no yelling, no smoking 3 consecutive blunts in the backyard when the neighbors kids are in the backyard playing. Seems obvious, but too many easily slip, and its not worth it. Even if you are a Medicinal holder, why put the good thing at risk, I believe medical smokers should be that much more secretive, so as to preserve their right. Why flaunt and push it, driving someone with power to make a stand and if nothing else cause you a huge headache? These last things would also aid in the case an investigation was launched, cover your bases, and many investigations are let go. Why not increse your chances of this?
I got abit carried away, but I think proxies and respect are enough to carry 80+% of grows through with minimal hassles...

AHH

medicalbud

10-06-2006, 05:01 PM

The vote next month in CO maybe will pass and they trying again to give pot bad name hard the last 2 months.

all I know is last 7 yrs I took 340 painkillers (not counting meds to cure or try to)a month now I cut out almost 200 with the MMP

It was doctors idea and I did not have to ask for it or pay extra and they were like maybe your organs will last longer again. This was after left eye has to remove a cataract unger 32

So its worth a try and not only did cut pill I dont sound all dopped up as much too. Not in a fog as much and doing more as well.

ninfan77

10-07-2006, 01:04 PM

Ive never heard of an ISP notifying the po po because your SURF drug sites....

420fuchs

12-05-2006, 05:48 PM

They usually post threads like "Hello, I am a hip young bopster who would like to purchase some marijuana in Texas, El Paso" no imagination....
LMAO

tuesdaystar

09-14-2007, 06:29 AM

i wudnt post on here if i had sumting to hide. the computer alredy nos ive smoked green if i googled my name id probly find my blotter i have in my favor that i dont grow or sell drugs... or drink wink wink to readers with badges and guns i'm better than your laws cuz im not high on booze and as longer as your reading your welcome for getting myself off junk without costing you a precious penny.

crimsonburn

11-12-2007, 11:31 PM

You know whats sad? If you look at John Locke's "Two Treaties of Government", one fo the most influential documents to our founding fathers in forming the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, Locke explains that we are all bound to "social contracts". This basically says that people never had to form societies, but that we did for our own protection and benefit. It says that when people form a society, we in a way "hire" a government to hold the society together, because most people don't want to deal with setting trade regulations, maintaining public works, and dealing with real illegal problems such as murder, rape, burglary, etc. This means that we are all in a social contract with the US government and the Constitution, for our own benefit. The founding fathers definatly believed in this fact (just check out the Federalist papers). And yet, in modern times, we seem to live in a world where this whole fact has been toppled on its head, and that instead of the government working FOR us, we live in a time where the government is increasingly in control of us. Meanwhile, our connection to control in government is slowly fading, look at how much anyone's vote counted in the 2000 popular election. This NEEDS TO CHANGE! Its ridiculous. There has never been any real substantial evidence that shows a SOCIAL danger in marijuana and its recreational uses, yet since the 1920's the US has propogated a negative opinion against it, successively made it illegal, and now enjoys fucking up otherwise law-abiding citizens who like to smoke on weekend nights with their friends. I think Locke, Jefferson, Madison, and alot of other men from that era and school of thought would look at this situation, as well as the many other hypocritical and unneeded things our government does, in disgust. We need to re-establish the original social contract that the American people had with the Constitution and change this bullshit, if over 50% of the American people find no SOCIAL danger in marijuana, then it should not be illegal! This government is suppose to be working for us for our benefit. Sorry for the rant, but I'm a government major and and avid weed smoker, and these kinda things just really piss me off. Peace yall.

Roct

11-14-2007, 03:43 PM

I'm sure law enforcement does check in on this occasionally. However, I don't believe the DEA or any other agency is going to devote too much time or money to bust some kid with a hundred bucks of weed. Now, if someone got on here and started bragging about growing acres and acres and having pounds and pounds, then maybe their ears will perk up. But I'm sure the cops in every town know the alley, or behind what garage, or whatever where people smoke. Do they go by and bust people sometimes? Sure. Do they set up elaborate sting operations to bust kids with joints? No.

As for where the servers are located, who cares? This is a public forum. All they have to do is read it on here. You guys may not know it but, you can go up top and do a search for every posting by any one person. You don't need a subpoena for that. You don't need special, classified, CIA computer programs for that.

And if you're still paranoid about it, just log off and reregister. Only this time, don't use your real name and hometown.

And finally, with all the members on here, I still have yet to find one story where someone posted that said they got busted because of what they posted on here. If it happened, don't you think they would tell about it? Or is their silence just part of the conspiracy?

Whiskers123

12-10-2007, 07:54 PM

If you think the DEA is watching these forums then I would leave America. Thats way to big brother for me.

tcruse11

12-24-2007, 12:36 AM

Of course they are watching, but like you said unless you are saying something about having 3 pounds of weed, they don't care.

They care more about the "hard drugs"

temp303

12-27-2007, 02:54 PM

i dont think there watching they cant watch everbody at once they only watch people that they hav been informed 2 watch well thats wot i think if u go around shoutin ur mouth off 2 every tom dick an joe ur gonna get caught 4 sure but if like most smokers u keep urself 2 urself then nobodys watchin u except a large dose of paranoia lol ive thought alot about the whole government drugs thing i dont agree with any other drugs apart from mj bad past experiences nasty addictive barstards lol but wot i think is it should be made legal 2 grow weed but stay illegal 2 smoke it this in theory would knock out nasty drug dealers of shit an under weight weed but not give the smoker enough power 2 run around lightin up joint after joint intoxicating everybody even if they dont want it i mean if it was legal 2 smoke 2 then 2 many would abuse it like alcohol and cigarettes witch r used 2 way liberally but thats ok coz its taxable lol wot do u think bout my idea?

sm0key42o8

12-27-2007, 03:54 PM

I think the thing we have in your defense unless you have pictures of you in them with anything illegal its all just text and who is to say how is really typing. I know they can tract my IP addy, but they cant really prove who is sitting at the pc at that time

sm0key42o8

12-27-2007, 03:55 PM

Oh, btw, I have heard of people on myspace getting busted b/c of pics of them with large sums of money and piles of herb-but thats just fucking retarded anyway!

sandbar*pain

01-21-2008, 12:20 AM

Just dont go posting pics of your heroin lab producing 5 tons a week and you should stay on a pretty low profile.

Pennyroyal_Tea

04-18-2008, 11:37 AM

Well it goes for any website that has educational information about illegal things. I'm a member of another forum that has software piracy written all over it. However, if the feds did crack down on it could they really even prove anything? I mean afterall, forums are just text basically.

Yeah, they could on a piracy forum. They'll get a warrant, start searching homes for cds, dvds, etc. anything containing pirated anything. Then you'll be in federal "pound you in the ass" prison. (damn I love that movie)

This forum, well, they couldn't do shit unless they proved you were a dealer or a user, even then they'd have to bust you with product.

Read my signature.

Eskimo101

07-24-2008, 01:02 PM

crap hes onto us...YOUR ALL GOING DOWN HIPPIES!!!jk dont post your adress if your so worried about it

orison319

07-24-2008, 01:15 PM

1600 pennsylvania ave.. lol..

Born25YearsTooLate

07-25-2008, 02:06 AM

If the DEA's watching me, I hope they're getting bored of watching me go deliver newspapers, jerk off, occasionally shop for food, post in this forum, smoke occasionally and talk to my friends online. Ah..the life of a criminal. So luxurious...so plush. Where'd I leave my porn....time to entertain the little voyeurs a little more.

CanniEvergrow

07-25-2008, 04:31 AM

I usta be fraid of the garbage man. Now I live in a legal state where we'r alowed to make our own home made meds. I feel like a giant weight's been lifted off me. One by one the states will legalize. Once the knowledge covers the lies the the basterds wont know how to defend themselves. In this modern day with the internet and everything, theyre bein exposed. Its kinda funny in a sick way -- everybody knows whats goin on with the Herb but only a fyew will recognize it. Blessins on everyone and stay safe.

dragginwagen

08-06-2008, 09:23 PM

yo FUCK the POlice hahaha.. everyone that wants to hear some SICK CIA/government bullshit.. listen to "Peruvian cocaine" by Immortal Technique... its a rap song but listen to the lyrics and pay attention. and you will be BLOWN away by these guys

Its true

Lemme know what you think little niggas

medicalbud

10-13-2008, 06:37 AM

Just stay within your state laws.

ZeroxBleach

10-13-2008, 07:26 AM

Actually, while they might be watching they more than likely couldn't do anything legally. They're too busy trying to control the distribution of pharmaceuticals on the internet, or with Major marijuana hot spots around the country. Not only that but the media would more than likely be dragged into play, and it could bring up a major supreme court case and upset many people. It would be a direct attack on Free Speech.

Legally, there's probably a lot that could go wrong. As far as finding major growers through the site... don't post your address lol.

Lynnbrown

10-13-2008, 07:39 AM

of course they watch! That's part of what the "Patriot Act" is about, imo.

Wilson

10-14-2008, 05:00 AM

Pennyroyal_Tea

10-14-2008, 08:04 AM

I know for a fact that police monitor these forums. Be careful not to give out to many names or places. And the assholes could use information you post on this website as evidence against you in court.

Are they really going to give a shit about an 18 year old upstanding citizen with a good job who's just here to study America's underground? (see sig)

Honestly...

They have much better things to do with their time than watch my ass...
They'd get so bored they'd put their guns in their mouths...

ZeroxBleach

10-14-2008, 10:53 AM

Are they really going to give a shit about an 18 year old upstanding citizen with a good job who's just here to study America's underground? (see sig)

Honestly...

They have much better things to do with their time than watch my ass...
They'd get so bored they'd put their guns in their mouths...

Yeah they're pretty much only looking for MAJOR growers, or information leading to the arrest of major growers through the internet. They might be monitoring here, but if you have no affiliations with major marijuana growers you're probably pretty safe.

Wilson

10-15-2008, 12:39 AM

Are they really going to give a shit about an 18 year old upstanding citizen with a good job who's just here to study America's underground? (see sig)

Honestly...

They have much better things to do with their time than watch my ass...
They'd get so bored they'd put their guns in their mouths...

I know for a fact that they monitored my posting. They won't bust you just for posting about smoking weed on here...but they could use it as evidence if you get arrested for drug related crimes. My phone got tapped as well. Be careful not to post names/places.

Do you really think your sig is fooling anyone??

Pennyroyal_Tea

10-22-2008, 01:03 AM

I know for a fact that they monitored my posting. They won't bust you just for posting about smoking weed on here...but they could use it as evidence if you get arrested for drug related crimes. My phone got tapped as well. Be careful not to post names/places.

Do you really think your sig is fooling anyone??

Reasonable doubt... I could just be taking stories from other people and posting them, poking around for scientific research into statistics on lifestyle choices by those among the counterculture...

I'd love to see them prove otherwise...

That said, I don't even know anybody who knows a grower... I know a guy, who knows a guy, who knows a guy... Yeah, it's one of those situations... :)
The less I know, the better.

butterbean

03-29-2009, 04:03 PM

i dont think the big boyes worry much about use little folks they are wanting biger fish.i know we all like to brag about or grows,thats why im comeing here,the big thing is dont tell your friends are any that you think want say any thing,thats the one how tell there friends that tell someone,and befor long the man is busting the door in just to get three or four plants

Roll.a.J69

04-01-2009, 06:23 AM

I think they are. Its pretty pinner how the DEA is busting hippies and g's. Look at all the wackos out there. DRUGS only hurt the users, but they dont see the piont.

medicalbud

04-02-2009, 06:48 AM

I dont worry I dont do no wrong.

butterbean

04-03-2009, 12:51 AM

i quit posting for along time when they pasted the patriot act, this is my 1st time back on the web in years. i guess if they were going to get me then they would have allready becouse i had lots of pics on the site,but im still here so i guess they dont wount people like me.2 small i guess

DerrtyJake

07-14-2009, 10:28 AM

Does the government care about a bunch of hippies on a marijuana forum?

unfocusedanakin

07-15-2009, 07:04 AM

It requires time and energy to earn trust on these forums. Is it really worth a cops time to get a few hundred posts up, just on the off chance that he may hook up with someone with something interesting? Especially when they don’t really know how to do it.

How many times do people register, post twice asking for drugs, then when they can’t score right away they never come back? Those are cops sometimes I am sure.

Still I’m careful not to name names. It’s a free country, you can talk all you want about things, it’s just the issue of getting caught doing it.