War/Hitler..

[Tricksters-Choice]

I am wondering if any of you have knowledge about Hitler and what he did that you would be willing to share. Stuff he did, concentration camps, ect.
I'm just curious, and I really want to know more about what went on in the concentration camps.
Also, if anyone has had experiences in the war, I would love to hear them!

^_^

[ragethebong]

I bet you might find a little better response in the history forum. Good luck in your search, though!

[Tricksters-Choice]

lol ty... I didn't even notice that there was a history forum ^_^

[drumminmama]

Ok, now that this is in the history forum:
Find the following books:
Witness (companion book to a PBS special) personal accounts from survivors, a few former Hitler youth, some people who hid Jews, & resistance members
Night: Eli Wiesel
Lucy S. Dawidowicz's The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 (1975).
And a wonderful portal site:
http://www.nizkor.org/

Never Again.

[Quest_techie]

read mein kamph



then research his supreme court case....


that'll get you started.....

[somethingwitty]

Libraries are your friend.

[MarryMeEdward]

I think you'll get a wealth more of knowledge from a library or a book store. It seems difficult to just give you random bits of information on Hitler. He was an ass, but he had issues. If you'd like to discuss a particular topic about Hitler that you find in your research...it might be easier for me to comment.

[guy]

i'm sure you'll find that he didn't actually do anything

he got other people to do it for him

the gassings, shootings and torture weren't actually committed by him

thats the beautiful thing about authority you can make other people do things that you don't want to do personally.

i've made another commentry on hitler earlier on, check it out

[Gratefuljefferson~]

Most people don't know, but he used some of the people in the concentration camps to make counterfeit money, english money. his plan was to drop it in england so it would totally ruin the economy because he made tons of this. but i think the war was over before he did this plan, you might want to do more research on that

[Alden]

Check Wikipedia, you really don't want to hear what I have to say about him.

[40oz and chronic]

If you want to learn about what really happened in the concentration camps read this book 'Night' author: 'Eli Weisel' its a true story from this man that was in the real concentration camp and everything it really touched me and i learned alot of interesting stuff in here too.

[alex714]

what exactly do you want to know about??

there a few i could recommend. actually, more than a few. just tell me a certain area of intrest (resistance, nazi policies, ghettoisations, etc.) and i can give you a list of readings.

the definitive text, a good starting point (still be critical though) is hilberg's destruction of the european jews

[Big Bull]

Yes the library is the best place to check this out.
You must remember it wasn't just the Jews in the concentration camps! They also put in homosexuals, Gypsies, Freemasons, and political prisoners! Which raises the question of a strange story, Dr. Edward Block a Jew, was Hitler's mother's doctor. Hitler saw that no harm came to him and his family. Anti-Semites was all over Europe at the time. I have known personally two US servicemen that liberated a camp, they would not talk about it, even 60 years later! These men have seen the horrors of war, and don't want to remember it.

[drumminmama]

Bury Me Standing by Isabella Fonseca has a good passage on the Devouring (the Romani "Gypsy" term for the Shoah/ holocaust)
if this is all you want, it isn't worth the price of admission (price of book) but if you enjoyed Jan Yoors' Gypsies, you will like this new take on the culture.

[StonerBill]

hitler was a great, intelligent, and powerful man in his individual right. morals aside, he was one of the greatest men on earth perhaps. if it wasnt for america joining the war, i recon the axis could have won. but a country the size of germany verses england, russia, AND america? well i dont blame him for losing.

hitlers ideas were logically sound from what ive read. but then again, most logically beneficial (for mankind) routes DO involve killing off existing humans and we just cant have that. hitler probably lost any compassion for human life during the great war. it was then merely a matter of gaini9ng to power

[Megara]

hitler was a great, intelligent, and powerful man in his individual right. morals aside, he was one of the greatest men on earth perhaps. if it wasnt for america joining the war, i recon the axis could have won. but a country the size of germany verses england, russia, AND america? well i dont blame him for losing.
it was hardly germany vs the rest. Did we forget italy, japan? Why do we always forget the war in the pacific? Half the freaking war!

[lakshen]

hitler was a great, intelligent, and powerful man in his individual right. morals aside, he was one of the greatest men on earth perhaps. if it wasnt for america joining the war, i recon the axis could have won. but a country the size of germany verses england, russia, AND america? well i dont blame him for losing.hitler was a stupid and mentally unstable guy who killed off his generals and thought he could run a war by his own head, guess what!? He couldn't

[Green]

Hitler was a phonomenal speaker, but he was insane and drugged with amphetamines daily. Hitler, like Stalin, had an bad childhood and abusive father. Each of them had a woman who was close to them die (I think it was like Hitlers neice who died). Before Hitler was elected leader of the Nazi party he was an artist who painted landscapes. He applied to a college for art but the council (comprised I think entirely of jews) rejected him because he could only draw landscapes and not people.

Something Hitler did during the war was destroy his home town, a small village. He destroyed it to remove any evidence that he was related to jews (somebody in his family was jewish, either one of his parents or grandparents, I forgot). He thought his nose looked ugly because it was jewish. When he was angry he chewed carpet.

Hitler could have won the war. Instead of sending troops and supplies to fight the russians, he sent it to the concentration camps to kill the jews faster. Killing jews was more important than winning the war to Hitler.

[matthew]

Something Hitler did during the war was destroy his home town, a small village. He destroyed it to remove any evidence that he was related to jews (somebody in his family was jewish, either one of his parents or grandparents, I forgot). He thought his nose looked ugly because it was jewish. When he was angry he chewed carpet.


Are you sure ??..
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v09/v09p380_Ries.html



Hitler's youth was dominated by German nationalistic thought. At the turn of the century, this was synonymous in Linz with anti-semitism and racism, especially against the Czechs. Hitler's hatred of the Jews found its final outlet in the Holocaust, with many millions of victims. It is not thought likely that this hatred of the Jews formed itself in such a radical form during his youth in Linz.

After the "Anschluss" of Austria into the German Reich, the "Führer" had many projects for his "hometown": Linz should become a "World Town" and the "most beautiful town on the Danube". He also envisaged that he and Eva Braun would live here in Linz during the time of retirement. However, in April 1945, it seemed that his confinement in the Berlin Bunker would provide the end of the "Thousand Year Reich". Despite this, Hitler continued with plans for new buildings in Linz.

http://www.linz.at/archiv/nationalsoz/index.html?ekapitel1.html~haupt


Hitler could have won the war. Instead of sending troops and supplies to fight the russians, he sent it to the concentration camps to kill the jews faster. Killing jews was more important than winning the war to Hitler.

You would have made a very good capaign manager.. if stonerbill did not beat you too it..that is.

Personaly... Hitler was a ass.. prompted and perpetuated by those around him.. even mein kampf was half written by another..

[Nimrod's Apprentice]

There is evidence, that Hitler underwent massive brainwashing and other occult mind control tactics, during his time in a hospital after getting hurt in WWI. Also there are stories that during this time he came in direct contact with Aleister Crowley and other Golden Dawn, and occult society members. There are conspiracies that the man known as Hitler was only the Darth Vader of the Third Reich. With behind the scenes occult organizations guiding him through all his actions. And trying to institute an Occult State underneath the guise of The Aryan Mythos, and National Socialism. They were gonna breed a version of super communism. After destroying the monotheistic god, but first they needed scapegoats to trick the people. Thats why they killed the mentally handicapped, the Gypsies, and the freemasons, who even though were somewhat occultists in their own right. Or RITE I should say. They were the little sister to the real occult groups of the time. And were a good front to pretend they were completely "christian".
Then finally they got to the big boys. The Jews. Because the Jews have intense occult knowledge, The kabbalah, theres a ton of Jewish mysticism, too much to list all here. THese elements are very similar to the occult beleifs of the secret societies. Thus if all the Jews are dead. The Nazis could take the Jewish knowledge, carried down by the Cohanigm, since the days of Babylon and the true Royal Family of Egypt via, Moses and Akhenaten's Exodus of the wisdom from the corrupt nation of Egypt to pursue the kingdom of heaven somewhere else.
Training the SS, in this wisdom under the false "aryan precepts" to bring the whole racial issue into it. They were eventually going to just create the upper caste, of their new society. Then the rest of the world would be underneath them. Then unleashing knowledge thats been "hidden" by elite secret societies since the beginning of time to the mass public.
Thus viewing Adolf Hitler as a version of the Christ. And his descendants therefore would be Christ Children. Upholding a divine monarchy.
However too bad Himmler was a squirreling wuss, and found out that when hitler died he would not be leader of the Reich. Singlehandedly had meetings with the United States, pinpointing the exact locations of the Nazi Oil Fields. The man dead found by the Russians was not Adolf Hitler in the bunker. It was some poor german sap with a round face and a mustache.
The third reich was succesfull because there was no death of the hidden powers behind the it. These Hidden powers some say, created a monster that could'nt die. Either way they reached their gains. There whole plan was to either destroy the one god and reinvent it, or PURSUE THIS ONE GOD IDEAL WITH THE CAPACITY FOR MASS CONTROL. You ask how did they do this? The answer is Israel. Now with the jewish people in a time of turmoil the secret occultists could infiltrate all the jewish ranks. So now these secret occultists who are in control of Israel, have control over the ancient temple and jerusalem. This is why the muslims want them out, they know its not the same JEWs of ancient times. Its not the Jews of the time of christ, even though they still are notorious as not being very smart and curteous back then. Israel was the biggest front in modern history. The third reich is continuing in Israel as we speak, as they gain allies with the same people that destroyed them in Germany. They want to take over the muslims rightful land because of power and gold and oil in the area.
The occultists played both sides, and thats the only way to ensure a victory. Now look at the shitmess Israel IS, only 60 years later. Everyone hates them, and HATES THE FREE WORLD, because of it. Europe will back out, and only AMerica ! Will save them, and If were not already infiltrated by the virus were gonna be soon. Because they've already infiltrated the other side. Good Old Binny! Bin Laden might as well be wearing an SS uniform.
Seriously the longer we back Israel the closer we fall into this trap.

[Alden]

it won't help if you write that here you need to put that shit on the news.

[matthew]

it won't help if you write that here you need to put that shit on the news.
They have that kinda thing on cable TV.. the reason it is not on the news is because most of us have a very narrow view of the world around us.. It might be perfectly reasonable to some .. but it is speculation.. evidence is the key..

Imho the simple truth is that it was not quite as 'exciting' as all that.. more like a couple of nut jobs spent some time in prison wrote Mein kampf.. wanted some power dabbled in zealous politics.. killed millions of people.

[MeatWagon499]

hitlers quack doctor injected him with methamphetamine every day for a couple of years (cannot recall how many). maybe sleep deprivation and constantly being poisoned drove him over the edge to think he had more power than he really had.

[Alden]

Cha right on

[Ladylocks]

Hitler was vegetarian and had a Hindu astrologer. Himmler had the Bhagavad Gita in his pocker.



Proof that Hippies are borderline Nazis, LOL.

[~MorningManiacMusic~]

I read in this book that when Jewish woman had there babys in the concentration camp hospitals,the german doctors would throw them out a window onto a truck where they would be taken' to the nazi troops and be thrown up in the air and shot,then when they landed on the floor they would let the dogs rip them apart.


That is so fuckin' wrong....Why can't there be peace?

[happy]

i just finished watching a show on the discovery health channel about hitler...they were saying that he was addicted to meth (his doctor was giving it to him claiming it was "vitamins") and also that he had parkinsons disease. it was really interesting

[Big Bull]

Hitler was vegetarian and had a Hindu astrologer. Himmler had the Bhagavad Gita in his pocker.



Proof that Hippies are borderline Nazis, LOL.
Ladylocks is correct, Hitler was a vegetarian, but because of stomach trouble he had a hard time digesting meat, he also suffered from uncontrollable farting. This may be because of the meds he was on.

[dd3stp233]

If get past all the nonsense, the reason for World War 2 was World War 1.
Also Germany didn't start WW2, Japan did, with the 1937 war with China. This was 2 years before Germany and Russia invaded Poland. Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, not Germany. Also Hitler was even German, he was born and raised in Austria.

As a young man, Hilter was an artist slumming it Vienna, selling his paintings to get by. See what happens when artists get into politics. Minister of Propaganda, Goebbels was also an artist, as a young man. As a poet, he slummed around Europe like many still do today. His diaries from that period read something like "On the Road".

[Flight From Ashiya]

Towards the end of World War Two :Ian Fleming (the 'James Bond' creator) visited Devil-Worshipper Aleister Crowley in prison to see if he would do something for the war effort.Crowley emphasised his patriotism & summoned the dark forces against Hitler.Not long afterwards Hitler committed suicide.

[slangshot1]

i read night, didnt really think of the holllocaoust as a big thing untill then. it was unthinkable how they treated the jews

[zeppelin kid]

Its not that hard to know things about Hitler. And if you dont you should be ashamed of yourself.

[hippiejessica]

Really good book: 'The Holocaust Chronicle'.

And there's nothing better than a memoir.