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[mary jane]

I'm relatively uninformed when it comes to opiates, but lately I've been very curious about them. I haven't had a chance to do them since I was about 16, and I haven't been around opiates much since. I'm really curious about the high that you achieve, and the differences in opiates. I just want to know if it's something I'd like to try or not, so information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

mj

[eat_some_LSD]

Opiates are a very complex class of drugs since they're often distributed in combination with APAP (Tylenol). Since APAP causes liver and kidney damage, you want to avoid APAP-containing medicines. Ideally one would obtain Dilaudid, however, this is nearly impossible to find without a connection inside a public health facility. I recommend either Oxycontin (20 mg, 40 mg, 80 mg, and 160 mg doses) or morphine sulfate (sometimes sold under MSContin) (15 mg instant-release or 60 mg time-release doses).

It's dangerous to mix opiates with alcohol, and I wouldn't recommend a newbie using anymore than 80 mg Oxycontin or 60 mg MSContin for a first time, as I would also recommend avoid mixing with alcohol.

Check Erowid's Opiate Vault (http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/opiates/opiates.shtml) to find exactly what's right for you. I recommend exercising extreme caution with tampering with opiates as they have a high rate of addiction.

[makno]

some folks are sensitive and cant even handle more than 20 mg oxys .....if your concidering h split the bag in 3rds n do a line waiting 15 min before the next .....you realize that getting comfortable doing theese things has a price .....and not the cheap money they cost you ....

[makno]

the only ones that are good are hydromorph [dilaudid] ....oxymorphine [numorphin] ...oxycodine .....and diacytlmorphine [heroin ]....besides a liquid or powdered [not time released , more chance of misdosage and bad time ] morphiene hydrocloride n sulphate.....#4 thai smack is the bomb .....you must realize that you probably ruin your life but i gave you the benifit of my discriminating taste ......my advice is if you do h , do it with someone who has survived doing it for a long time ..... there are old h users and bold heroin users .....only there are no old bold h users .....but eating , shitting living feeling n stuff are better ,,,,,try it if u must but dont rush to its embrace .....it lasts a lifetime .....u got to do it 3 x daily for over a month ta get minamaly hooked ....but fuck around for a year and surprise yer snagged !

[eat_some_LSD]

Hey now...don't be railin' no lines of bird just yet. If you do decide to try H, just bump that shit. I hope you realise, makno, that 5-10 mg of good diacetyl would kill a non-tolerant user?

However, you're quite right about the addiction potential...I recommend Erowid's Experience vaults for just a slight insight to an H addict's life. Listen to any Nine Inch Nails, or Tool's "H" as well...

[makno]

theres probably 10 to 20 mg in a nyc dime , and yes sniffing a whole one can kill an unacoustomed user ....thats why i sugessted 1 third of a dime first time ....and further suggested finding a more healthy hobby .

[makno]

raw dope in the n e usa is 66.6% now a days ....they should make 30 dimes ....before 96 it was 98% thai dope , and a gram had to make at least 50 sacks or overtake lethal dose for half of humans exposed [l d 50%]...ergo they approched 20 mgs ....do da math thats 50 000 ten [or 20in atlanta ] dollar bills per kilo retail max for pure dope like they only got in australia now ,....but raw colombian retails 300000 bucks in nyc 600000 bucks in atlanta ....aproximatly at best.

[oOflyeyesOo]

I suggest oxycodone for your first opiate, opiates give such a nice high, so relaxing, so perfect, you will see.

[eat_some_LSD]

"Come here, little girl...hop in the van and eat some of daddy's special candy!" ;)

[seancourt]

well if you have never tried ANY opiates, then i would suggest starting with something like hydrocodone, some people are really sensitive to opiates in general, and you may even puke from taking only 2-3 hydrocodones, so i would start with something a little less strong then heroin, you can go through hydrocodone, oxy, morphine, then maybe if u really wanna ruin your life start doing heroin...

[swede]

eh

[psychoactive321]

you start w/ loratabs and percocets, get tired and buy a 40 OC and blow that, u really like the high that 40 to the dome gives u so u buy more, next thing u no ur paying 55 for a 80mg contin. so ur buddy says hey man i got stuff that will give u a better high a fraction of the price, so u buy urself a 20 and do some lines.. well just liek when u were doing them 80 oc's shits getting boring and expensive again. so buddy say lemme show u my friend, he pulls the plunger back and your in heaven.. u never want to go back to reality.. u never want to blow an OC or smack.. u want mr. brownstone and u want it in ur vains.. u want the rush of the plunger shootin smack into ur vains. the days go by and stuff just seems less and less important. nothing matters cept for u and ur new best friend.

[mary jane]

I have no interest in doing heroin...I just wanted to know what the high is like and basic information like that...