Mailing hash across the atlantic

[PLyTheMan]

Is there any way to do it? There's no goddamn hash around (least no one I know can find any) and of course my friend in Lebanon is bragging to me about how cheap it is to get in the market place. I dont even want a lot, just enough for a few bowls for the sake of trying it. Is there any chance of getting it across without being arrested as a terrorist?

[TopNotchStoner]

Is there any way to do it? There's no goddamn hash around (least no one I know can find any) and of course my friend in Lebanon is bragging to me about how cheap it is to get in the market place. I dont even want a lot, just enough for a few bowls for the sake of trying it. Is there any chance of getting it across without being arrested as a terrorist?Tell your friend to put a ball of hash in a box full of chocolates and mail it to you.

[PLyTheMan]

Do they sniff out the packages as they go over seas? or are there any private couriers that wouldn't check for that kind of thing? Thats a good idea to throw it in with some choclates, but if the dogs sniff it out I'm sure they'd know the dog's smelling more than just choclate.

Also, he wouldn't have to put a return adress, but if it does get caught up in the mail, that would land me in a fair deal of legal trouble, correct?

[TopNotchStoner]

Do they sniff out the packages as they go over seas? or are there any private couriers that wouldn't check for that kind of thing? Thats a good idea to throw it in with some choclates, but if the dogs sniff it out I'm sure they'd know the dog's smelling more than just choclate.

Also, he wouldn't have to put a return adress, but if it does get caught up in the mail, that would land me in a fair deal of legal trouble, correct?
Nobody can prove that you had any knowledge of the package. For all they know, it could just be a surprise package that friend spontaneously decided to send to you.

[nesta]

don't you ever get junk mail for people that used to live at your place before you? have it addressed to one of them, with no return address, and no marks indicating you on it whatsoever. since its a friend, hopefully there will be no evidence such as emails or orders online for such things. IF you get questioned about it, it would be entirely possible to plead ignorance. you can't be arrested if its not mailed to you and they can't prove you knew what was going on....otherwise i'd just mail some heroin to bush and get him out of office for a while!

[nesta]

oh, and as far as customs is concerned i know you have to declare whats in a package thats being sent over. you don't have to be 100% specific though.

a better idea than chocolates might be for him to go buy a big candle, heat up a bit of wire to make a clean cut through the middle to the wick, then cut the wick. put the two peices next to a heater or in the sun for a bit to allow them to warm and soften up just a bit. while this is going on, he can wrap some hash several times in saran wrap or foil or something. then, hollow out half of a cavity in the top peice, and a corresponding half in the bottom peice. put the hash package inside the cavity, use a hot glue gun to make sure theres an airtight seal between the two peices when put back together, then melt a seal around the candle at the seam. if this makes the candle look all fucked up, you could easily dip it in new melted parafin a few times until it regains the appearance of a normal candle. put it in some stupid looking wooden "presentation box" and print up a stupid fake insert for the package from a computer, i dunno saying something about how a made up company's name has been making only the finest lebanese candles with only the finest raw materials for 20 years, blah blah blah. i doubt the wax thing will ENTIRELY prevent dogs from smelling it out, but it might help a good bit, and it would be cheap and easy to do.

it would definitely work better than the chocolates, all things considered.


the candle comes to your house under the previous tenant's name, you smash it on the ground and collect your prize. if it gets caught up in customs, theres no return address (or the fake company's fake return address) so since they can't pin it on you, and there IS no candle company to track down, no one gets in trouble.

[PLyTheMan]

Very creative idea with the candle. My family is the first to live in the house, but mislabeled mail does make its way to us every once in a whle, might as well get something worth while =D

Thanks for the tips. I'll have to talk to my friend next time he signs online...

[Twizz]

Nobody can prove that you had any knowledge of the package. For all they know, it could just be a surprise package that friend spontaneously decided to send to you.In that case,

CALLING ALL MIDDLE EASTERNERS! SEND ME AS MUCH HASH AS POSSIBLE!

[TopNotchStoner]

Lol^^^

[yazzer]

I've discussed this before with people. I'm still not so sure if it's a good idea or not. I have asked people to send me stuff before. But they just won't do it. They're too lazy and stoned all the time and can't be bothered!
Still, worst case scenario, if you got caught, it would only be a misdemeanor, if it was just alittle tiny bit. (That is IF you actually were found guilty for some stupid ass thingy).

[nesta]

not true at all...international drug smuggling tends to be harshly dealt with...

[kris_p]

i had half an ounce of pot mailed to me..mind you it was only going from province to province here in canada but it made it fine

get your friend to put a fake return address on it, if it makes it to you then awesome..if it gets busted then it doesnt get traced back to the sender

if you do something like nesta suggested i think you'd be fine

[peacelovebarefeet]

have you guys ever heard of that stuff called "Dog-Off" or something like that? It's mostly used to keep dogs of people's furnitures and stuff. I read something on the internet about a guy living in the states, but he used to live in Hawaii.. and he would get hawaiian hash mailed to him... all the packages were sprayed with that "Dog-Off" stuff... No problem.

No guantees though... I've never tried it.

[2cesarewild]

Heard of people doing this with stuff that is a lot crazier to be dealing with than trees. I look at people funny when they say they do this and act like it's no big deal. Even if it comes through, how do you know they didn't notice the drugs and start watching you to bust more people? IDK it's just crazy to me, not into taking risks like that for stuff I can get locally cheaper than most.

[adoutsider]

I would also add, getting a P.O. box to receive it could be a good way to go, so many people will have had it befor you, that if it is addressed to something like "Mr. Smith" They could never get the receiver in trouble, more likely they could go after the sender, but as long as the sender isn't stupid about it(Like bleeding on the package, from a cut he gets fucking around with a candle) The biggest risk about sending something in the mail is the risk of never seeing it, if it gets caught up in customs and you never see what you paid for.

[nesta]

if you do something like nesta suggested i think you'd be fine
i wouldnt count on it. what i posted was merely an idea i've had, i've never heard of it being used and i've never tried it. i dont trust getting that kind of thing in the mail, and would never try it myself. drug dogs have MUCH MUCH MUCH more highly tuned noses than humans do, and there's still a good chance you could be caught this way. it just seems like it might be a little safer than just wrapping it in some tinfoil and mailing.

but basically i wouldn't trust rumors you hear about what will protect you from being caught. if you've heard about it being done, most likely people have been CAUGHT doing it.

only in a few circumstances would i ever, EVER consider smuggling across international borders. i dont even like taking pot with me on road trips...

[TopNotchStoner]

Drug dogs do have a very highly tuned sense of smell, but smearing vasoline over the bag will completely mask the smell. Just put the hash in a sack and ball it up, then smear vasoline over it, bag it again, smear more vasoline and put it in yet another sack. No dog in the world could smell that.

[nesta]

if there really was a foolproof method that cheap and easy, i can garauntee almost nobody would be caught at customs.

like i said, if you've heard of it being done, most likely people have been CAUGHT doing it. thats how you hear about it. good methods aren't generally spoken of except among the "professionals"

every industry has it's highly gaurded trade secrets.....


smearing vaseline on the bag may help, and do it if you want, you may well get away with it....but i would never do it personally. i simply don't believe almost anyone's claims that one easy method or another is "safe"

[TopNotchStoner]

I've never heard about it in the news or from authorities, but I've heard about it through friends. One coat of vasoline is very effective at masking the smell, two or three coats of vasoline on multiple layers of plastic would be ALMOST perfect. And you could do all of this AND put it into a full shampoo bottle to mask the smell even more.

[Eugene]

IDK yo. There's this thing called quantum tunneling, and basically it means that a molecule or a particle only has a probability of turning up somewhere. most of the time it's within the thing itself, but parts of the molecule form a 'cloud' where it's likely to be outside of whatever packaging you make.
This means that drug dogs can smell anything, there noses are that fucking sensitive.
Now, most of the time they don't run a drug dog. Since it's from lebanon then you'll probably run a risk of having a bomb dog sniff it, or lebanese officials opening the mail.
Even if the package goes through, that doesn't mean that you aren't busted. Sometimes they let it through knowing what it is so that they can then watch you when you get it, and judging by your reaction decide what to do.
And i don't know what's up with lebanese civil rights, but your buddy might get some serious pound-me-in-the-ass prision time for all of this.

[nesta]

just remember that the Man Who arguement is almost always faulty and can not be trusted.

just because there was a Man Who happened to do this and get through customs doesnt mean it works. it could mean they never encountered dogs, it could mean it was a fluke, it could mean the dogs weren't very good, it could mean any number of things. i still dont believe this would be fully effective, even though it MAY WELL help a lot.

the Man Who argument, if you haven't heard of it, is an argument people (everyone!) tend to make to rationalize doing something likely to end badly. people who smoke cigarettes, when faced with facts about how damaging tobacco is, may make use the argument "i knew this one guy that smoked three and a half packs a day and lived to be 83 with no problems at all..." but just because such a story could be true doesnt mean it always, or even usually, will be, and it may well be an incredibly insignificant event statistically speaking. another example of the Man Who argument is "i don't wear seatbelts because my friends got in a car accident and were thrown through the windshiled 40 feet and survived. they were torn up, but had they buckled up they would have been crushed inside the car" these things happen in real life, truly enough, but statistically it is FAR smarter to wear a seatbelt than not, because they are proven to save more lives than they occasionally take.

so what i'm trying to say is that your idea SOUNDS reasonable, and it MAY in SOME instances help a lot, but it does NOT garauntee ANYTHING, and drug dogs are TRAINED to baffle such attempts as these. its just playing with fire - if you want to take the chance, fine, but don't EXPECT it to work. the downfall of most smugglers is their arrogance and sense of untouchability. just because there was a Man Who got through customs with vaseline smeared baggies of pot doesnt mean that it is statistically significant enough to claim that this works. i've also known people to take completely unmasked drugs on international flights and not get in trouble. does that mean this is a good idea, or that pockets will baffle drug dogs? no, it just means she didnt get caught.

i think your idea is a decent one as far as easy things you can do to HELP eliminate smell, but i would never try it and never expect it to be effective. too risky! besides, like i said, if it were that easy to cheaply and effectively hide smells, no one would ever be caught by drug dogs....

it just doesnt all add up.

[TopNotchStoner]

I still think it would be the best way to go if someone decides to try "mailing hash across the atlantic". But you're right, transporting drugs across international borders is generally not a smart thing to do.

[deathtripp]

Its really not a great idea, but think about this. WHat time of year it is, and how many packages are going how many different places in the world on a daily basis. Afew grams of hash, fuck, even if customs did find it, you would probably only get a letter in the mail, and that would be the end of it. Ive seen afew of those letters my freinds got for trying to send weed through customs. I wouldnt rely on that or anything, but its not like you would have the feds on your ass. now 10 pounds, thats a different story. Its definately a good idea to use a previous owners adress, they cant prove it was you, and if its not enough of an amount to care about the dealer, nothing will come of it.

[MelvnDoo]

a friend of mine had some hash sent from a country in the european union to the place where he works. since he was tight with the manager, it was cool to have it sent there, since the manager was the one who was receiving the mail.
there was a fake return address used (made-up) and then it was addressed solely to the business´ name (not a person´s name). 3 out of four packages made it through.

the packages consisted of a reg. bubble-wrap padded envelope with a CD inside. then, behind the CD was pressed hash wrapped in plastic. that´s it.