Get rid of the post count

[bird_migration]

Post count leads to spamming.
I suggest you get rid of the postcount, so people can play games etc. without being warned for spamming and/or trying to get their post count up.

Some (obviously rather unintelligent and obsessed) people accused me of posting some things in the fora only to get my post count up.

Get rid of it; it is worthless, meaningless and pointless.

love, bird.

[Lilyrayne]

I second this! If you're so freakin' worried about bandwidth, getting rid of the post count would solve a lot of problems. It'd get rid of a lot of bullpoop posts too. Post counts also cause respect or disrespect where it's undue.

I was accused of merely trying to up my post count also, when I wasn't. VERY insulting. I honestly don't see the point in post counts.

The only reason I can think of to keep the post counts is because you secretly LIKE that people post so much to up their counts, because you want your site to be successful and you like being able to have a big head and coming down on people who just do post count uppers, to feel all good about yourself.

But I know this isn't Skips problem.

[leprcon]

But I had 1,000,000 posts in the old forums, and a was a super geriatric senior member! Now I have to start all over! :(

JUST KIDDING!

I have to agree! The post count is stupid, and serves no purpose, other than inflating people's egos and making them think they are super cool cuz they have nothing better to do than post constantly!

Please get rid of the post counts!

[EllisDTripp]

Er.... well, it's him who;s the one doing the narcissistic megalomaniac impression right now because of his delusions about people flooding their way up to having more posts when they weren't doing that at all.

And yes, Skip clearly likes to grow his own inflated ego by deluding himself that everybody in here is so obsessed with his site

Shall we place bets on how long this topic lasts before Skip deletes it because it doesn;t positively stoke his reputation and he can;t be assed to reply ?



If you have such a negative opinion of the person who makes this site possible, why the hell are you here?

Could it be that there aren't too many other forums that would tolerate your attitude?

Skip works his ass off so we all have this place to enjoy. If you just want to bitch and cut people down, find another place to do it....:(

[Antimatter235]

Astrocat is such an asshole "Holier Than Thou"... Whatever.

The post count is important. So you can quickly guess who are newbies, regulars, etc.

And who cares about people accusing you of getting the number up. They are the idiots for caring about it. If something appears to be spam then complain about the post.

[Dolphin~Rider]

I don't know Skip, but I know he must be a truly great guy to have brought this wonderful place into being-I love it here and plan to stay for as long as it is in existence. I also plan to become a supporter today (if my old computer will let me)LOL. However, I'm not wild about the count system either. I also don't like the reputation points. I'm not telling you all this to disrespect Skip or the forums. I just think you should know how we really feel and use that information to make this an even better site than it is now-if that's possible!! Thanks for letting me voice my opinion.

[Antimatter235]

You already have the option to deactivite your reputation.

[Dolphin~Rider]

Yes, and I did it already-but I don't really see the purpose of the option, other than creating a popularity contest. That defeats the purpose of the forums. It's only my opinion, and I love it here, so it's a very minor issue to me.

[DarkLunacy]

Its a mixed issue. I mean there are those who use post count/rep count as a way to seem better and all but I think its also good to know who has been here longer. Maybe we can make the post count in our CP's so its a personal tracking thing and then keep titles like, Senior Member and stuff.

[Heat]

Do you have any clue as to how running a site of this magnatitude works....do you have any idea of the amount of space your damn complaining and spamming takes up and how if you run a site this size you need to server to also back up the data for you.

Well my gosh your files got dumped. Get over it. Within less than 48 hours this site was up and running again. I would say that is service, for my measly 10 bucks a year.

The provider was responsible for backing up files and did not meet the contractural responsiblity.

Well, welcome to the world as not only your little tidbits were lost.

You mentioned possibly hosting your own site......well have at it, as then you may just stick your key board and hush about it. You can also then listen to all the whiney nuts list their complaints when you are trying to simply keep a main frame forum up and running for those who appreciate it rather than slam it.

Lordy you are like a dog with a bone.... rather ironic.

You do not like the service, which you do not pay for in the first place.......move the hell on.



yeah, get rid of the post counts

Re: "The only reason I can think of to keep the post counts is because you secretly LIKE that people post so much to up their counts, because you want your site to be successful and you like being able to have a big head and coming down on people who just do post count uppers, to feel all good about yourself.

But I know this isn't Skips problem."


It isn't ?

Er.... well, it's him who;s the one doing the narcissistic megalomaniac impression right now because of his delusions about people flooding their way up to having more posts when they weren't doing that at all.

So if it isn;t his problem, then whose is it ?

And yes, Skip clearly likes to grow his own inflated ego by deluding himself that everybody in here is so obsessed with his site, and values having large numbers of posts in here so much , that rather than enjoying themselves OBVIOUSLY people are just trying to flood-post their way up to a larger number...er.. I have still to figure out why he imagines that we were doing this though, since Skip didn;t deign to elucidate at all.

I mean... like we we really CARE about his stupid precious post counts... Myself, i wanted to keep my posts DOWN since i equate having lots of hip forums posts with having nothing better to do / being too ill to do more than post in the hip forums, but all the same i liked the games enough to play them all the same, regardless of the (I think) negative impact it had upon my rapidly increasing post total

Shall we place bets on how long this topic lasts before Skip deletes it because it doesn;t positively stoke his reputation and he can;t be assed to reply ?

In fact, if Skip really cares so much then why doesn;t he set up the games forum to take posts off your total when you post in there, to stop us all from carrying out our obsessive compulsive preoccupation with increasing an irrelevant variable by playing fun games

~Astro~

[TreePhiend]

I don't think that the post counter encourages spamming, just conversation... I like it, its good to know who is a regular here and who is not.

[Peace]

its kind of funny because you guys are complaining about the post count yet ive seen about half of the people complain that they lost there post count.

[sonik]

Personally I enjoy post counts.

I figure if people are abusing the system (spamming just for post count) then they can be handled by the mods. Otherwise why take somthing away that many people no doubt find enjoyable?

*shrug*

:cool:

[DharmaBum]

Level the Field...the Counter has no Useful purpose.


I Agree with getting Rid of the Post Count aswell...i dont see what purpose it serves other than who Post's alot and who doesn't..but why should that make a difference?..terms like "newbies" "regulars" i dont get it..everyone's opinion is equally valid regardless..I've noticed that some people with High posts wear it like a badge of pride as if Their opinion somehow matter's more because they have more time to spend on the Forum's than other's...And the reputation Counter is so open to abuse it's not even funny...just my two cents.

[WayfaringStranger]

i think this is a terribly silly request. if you dont care about post count, then dont look at it. if you care about controling what other people think or feel based on something that you dont even care about, then you have more deepseated problems.

[WayfaringStranger]

YES!!! my 80th post!!!

[Peace]

haha wayfayer. way to go!

[daysye]

i personally don't care either way about the post counts...as for it being down only 2 days it was down longer than that at least i think so....it took me 5 days to be able to actually acces the website...but i really don't care about that....i am just glad that it is up and running again.....

another thing about the post count is that there are some poeple that are on everyday for a few hours but only have very few posts, i am one of them, or there are the people that have many posts because they have more things and opinions to talk about....i just think we should be grateful that they were able to get it back up and running.....so who cares if you have to start out fresh again....that will just give us more to talk about...

[Heat]

Astro

Just so that you know I did read it and frankly can not be bothered to answer you. Your bitch and stich is all over the boards and has been since the day it came back on line. This post, is a courtsey, to say that I did read your drivel. Pffffttttt.

Like I stated, you do not like the service, then why stay and instead host your own.

[xaosflux]

>Post counts do serve a purpose, in general a member with more posts is less likely to be thaught of as a spammer if they try to s^Htalk about anything that is for sale. User titles would suffice, I'm not sure of the limitations of the software to remove it from the posting screen though.

>Users that abuse the system will be moderated.

>vBulletin has a feture of marking certain forums as NONCOUNTED, meaning that posts made in them will not contribute to a users post count. This feature may be turned on for selected forums (perhaps all personal forums) in the future.

[stilanas]

Post count leads to spamming.
I suggest you get rid of the postcount, so people can play games etc. without being warned for spamming and/or trying to get their post count up.

Some (obviously rather unintelligent and obsessed) people accused me of posting some things in the fora only to get my post count up.

Get rid of it; it is worthless, meaningless and pointless.

love, bird.
I agree with this whole heartedly

[Skip]

Post count leads to spamming.
I suggest you get rid of the postcount, so people can play games etc. without being warned for spamming and/or trying to get their post count up.

Some (obviously rather unintelligent and obsessed) people accused me of posting some things in the fora only to get my post count up.

Get rid of it; it is worthless, meaningless and pointless.

love, bird.That is NOT the reason the games forum was removed. Far from it.

You can either believe all the lies/rumors going around or not. I don't care. I don't have time to play this game with those who do nothing but disparage this site and me.

It's simple. Don't like the site, leave.

BTW, it is against the forum guidelines to attack any member. FYI, I too am a member.

[bird_migration]

That is NOT the reason the games forum was removed. Far from it.

You can either believe all the lies/rumors going around or not. I don't care. I don't have time to play this game with those who do nothing but disparage this site and me.

It's simple. Don't like the site, leave.

BTW, it is against the forum guidelines to attack any member. FYI, I too am a member.
Erm.... What does not liking postcount have to do with not liking the site?
And where did I attack you personally?

I am amazed by those accusations, unless you quoted the wrong person ofcourse.

[Dizzy Man]

Here are 10 reasons I'm strongly in favour of the post count:

1. It discourages people from constantly changing their username, or using more than one username, which is confusing and annoying.
2. It gives a fairly good representation of how involved people have been with the community, and how well known they are.
3. Very low post counts are a good way of detecting spammers, and people posing as regulars.
4. It's always useful to be able to tell when someone is a newbie, so you can go easy on them and help them settle in.
5. It allows us to gauge how frequently someone makes posts, either by glancing at their joining date, or just by noticing how quickly their post count is going up from day to day.
6. It can also give us a hint about people's lifestyles. The people with 20,000 posts are usually sedentary types who don't get out much. They also do nothing all day (despite having well paid jobs).
7. The post count gives people some (small) sense of achievement from spending time here. They're building something up. People are more inclined to return to the forum than if their posts counted for nothing. If you've spent years of your life on a forum you want at least something to show for it!
8. Milestones such as 1,000 or 10,000 are fun (although forums dedicated solely to people celebrating such milestones are definitely not fun!)
9. Your post count is just an interesting piece of information to know. My post count is always much lower than I would have guessed.
10. It allows each of us, at a glance, to see how much of our lives we've wasted here.

Abolishing the post count would be totally stupid.

[HappyHaHaGirl]

I agree, Dizzy...I've never been on a message board that didn't have a post count. It does help us to determine how much credibility someone has whenever they try to sell you something or get you to visit a site.

[sonik]

Excellent post DIzzy, I agree with you on all points you made.

Have some rep points.

:cool:

[bird_migration]

Here are 10 reasons I'm strongly in favour of the post count:

1. It discourages people from constantly changing their username, or using more than one username, which is confusing and annoying.
2. It gives a fairly good representation of how involved people have been with the community, and how well known they are.
3. Very low post counts are a good way of detecting spammers, and people posing as regulars.
4. It's always useful to be able to tell when someone is a newbie, so you can go easy on them and help them settle in.
5. It allows us to gauge how frequently someone makes posts, either by glancing at their joining date, or just by noticing how quickly their post count is going up from day to day.
6. It can also give us a hint about people's lifestyles. The people with 20,000 posts are usually sedentary types who don't get out much. They also do nothing all day (despite having well paid jobs).
7. The post count gives people some (small) sense of achievement from spending time here. They're building something up. People are more inclined to return to the forum than if their posts counted for nothing. If you've spent years of your life on a forum you want at least something to show for it!
8. Milestones such as 1,000 or 10,000 are fun (although forums dedicated solely to people celebrating such milestones are definitely not fun!)
9. Your post count is just an interesting piece of information to know. My post count is always much lower than I would have guessed.
10. It allows each of us, at a glance, to see how much of our lives we've wasted here.

Abolishing the post count would be totally stupid.
That sucked, try again.

[HappyHaHaGirl]

Admit defeat, Nerdy Birdy! Gotham City is safe.....for now...

[bird_migration]

Admit defeat, Nerdy Birdy! Gotham City is safe.....for now...
What defeat?
I made a valid point.

[HappyHaHaGirl]

I am the Avenger. Don't cross me.

[Dizzy Man]

Thanks Sonik! :)

I think Bird Migration is just trying to piss me off by writing in big words, but it won't work because my words are just as big, but even better.

[bird_migration]

Thanks Sonik! :)

I think Bird Migration is just trying to piss me off by writing in big words, but it won't work because my words are just as big, but even better.

Wrong judgement, my friend.
On both subjects.

[Lilyrayne]

Here are 10 reasons I'm strongly in favour of the post count:

1. It discourages people from constantly changing their username, or using more than one username, which is confusing and annoying.
2. It gives a fairly good representation of how involved people have been with the community, and how well known they are.
3. Very low post counts are a good way of detecting spammers, and people posing as regulars.
4. It's always useful to be able to tell when someone is a newbie, so you can go easy on them and help them settle in.
5. It allows us to gauge how frequently someone makes posts, either by glancing at their joining date, or just by noticing how quickly their post count is going up from day to day.
6. It can also give us a hint about people's lifestyles. The people with 20,000 posts are usually sedentary types who don't get out much. They also do nothing all day (despite having well paid jobs).
7. The post count gives people some (small) sense of achievement from spending time here. They're building something up. People are more inclined to return to the forum than if their posts counted for nothing. If you've spent years of your life on a forum you want at least something to show for it!
8. Milestones such as 1,000 or 10,000 are fun (although forums dedicated solely to people celebrating such milestones are definitely not fun!)
9. Your post count is just an interesting piece of information to know. My post count is always much lower than I would have guessed.
10. It allows each of us, at a glance, to see how much of our lives we've wasted here.

Abolishing the post count would be totally stupid.
Ok, I admit these are pretty good reasons for keeping the post count. It makes sense now, at least...

[HappyHaHaGirl]

Thanks Sonik! :)

I think Bird Migration is just trying to piss me off by writing in big words, but it won't work because my words are just as big, but even better.

AAAAGHHH!! MY EYES!

[Samhain]

i'm new on here but i like the rep system, its nice to be able to give something to people that i feel have helped me to feel welcome and have made interesting, intelligent or entertaining posts.
sadly i think like everything else its up for abuse, as people could send negative views too but i suppose thats life

s

[Fractual_]

Here are 10 reasons I'm strongly in favour of the post count:

1. It discourages people from constantly changing their username, or using more than one username, which is confusing and annoying.
2. It gives a fairly good representation of how involved people have been with the community, and how well known they are.
3. Very low post counts are a good way of detecting spammers, and people posing as regulars.
4. It's always useful to be able to tell when someone is a newbie, so you can go easy on them and help them settle in.
5. It allows us to gauge how frequently someone makes posts, either by glancing at their joining date, or just by noticing how quickly their post count is going up from day to day.
6. It can also give us a hint about people's lifestyles. The people with 20,000 posts are usually sedentary types who don't get out much. They also do nothing all day (despite having well paid jobs).
7. The post count gives people some (small) sense of achievement from spending time here. They're building something up. People are more inclined to return to the forum than if their posts counted for nothing. If you've spent years of your life on a forum you want at least something to show for it!
8. Milestones such as 1,000 or 10,000 are fun (although forums dedicated solely to people celebrating such milestones are definitely not fun!)
9. Your post count is just an interesting piece of information to know. My post count is always much lower than I would have guessed.
10. It allows each of us, at a glance, to see how much of our lives we've wasted here.

Abolishing the post count would be totally stupid.
you raise some good points.

i was with bird on this one until i read this.

[bird_migration]

you raise some good points.

i was with bird on this one until i read this.
I think you really should have your own opinion.

[Juggalo4ever]

1. It discourages people from constantly changing their username, or using more than one username, which is confusing and annoying.

I do agree here

2. It gives a fairly good representation of how involved people have been with the community, and how well known they are.

Not really, one example are those "association" games that get peoples post count up and doesn't make them anymore involved or well known

3. Very low post counts are a good way of detecting spammers, and people posing as regulars.

Skip and most moderators among others have a low post count, it still doesn't mean anything.

4. It's always useful to be able to tell when someone is a newbie, so you can go easy on them and help them settle in.

Why would you treat anyone different from others.

5. It allows us to gauge how frequently someone makes posts, either by glancing at their joining date, or just by noticing how quickly their post count is going up from day to day.

ok.

6. It can also give us a hint about people's lifestyles. The people with 20,000 posts are usually sedentary types who don't get out much. They also do nothing all day (despite having well paid jobs).

Yeah and so does caring about thing such as this.

7. The post count gives people some (small) sense of achievement from spending time here. They're building something up. People are more inclined to return to the forum than if their posts counted for nothing. If you've spent years of your life on a forum you want at least something to show for it!

And it also incourages them to spam to get to higher post counts. Spending years here should have something more to show than just a number.

8. Milestones such as 1,000 or 10,000 are fun (although forums dedicated solely to people celebrating such milestones are definitely not fun!)

ok.

9. Your post count is just an interesting piece of information to know. My post count is always much lower than I would have guessed.

See #6

10. It allows each of us, at a glance, to see how much of our lives we've wasted here.

Hmmm good point.

[bird_migration]

1. It discourages people from constantly changing their username, or using more than one username, which is confusing and annoying.

I do agree here

I disagree here, if someone wants a new username they take it anyway.
Speaking for myself, my postcount would not stop me if I wanted a namechange.

2. It gives a fairly good representation of how involved people have been with the community, and how well known they are.

Not really, one example are those "association" games that get peoples post count up and doesn't make them anymore involved or well known

I agree with Juggler here.

3. Very low post counts are a good way of detecting spammers, and people posing as regulars.

Skip and most moderators among others have a low post count, it still doesn't mean anything.

I agree about the posers, however it is very uncommon to the point of nihil.

4. It's always useful to be able to tell when someone is a newbie, so you can go easy on them and help them settle in.

Why would you treat anyone different from others.

Yes, why treat anyone different?

5. It allows us to gauge how frequently someone makes posts, either by glancing at their joining date, or just by noticing how quickly their post count is going up from day to day.

ok.

So? What good would it do if you know how frequently someone posts and why would you care?

6. It can also give us a hint about people's lifestyles. The people with 20,000 posts are usually sedentary types who don't get out much. They also do nothing all day (despite having well paid jobs).

Yeah and so does caring about thing such as this.

Biggest nonsense I have read so far.
It does say absolutely nothing about someones lifestyle.

7. The post count gives people some (small) sense of achievement from spending time here. They're building something up. People are more inclined to return to the forum than if their posts counted for nothing. If you've spent years of your life on a forum you want at least something to show for it!

And it also incourages them to spam to get to higher post counts. Spending years here should have something more to show than just a number.

People come here to share their opinions and/or to interact with others, not to check on their postcount.

8. Milestones such as 1,000 or 10,000 are fun (although forums dedicated solely to people celebrating such milestones are definitely not fun!)

ok.

What makes them fun? I do not see the fun in that.

9. Your post count is just an interesting piece of information to know. My post count is always much lower than I would have guessed.

See #6

How is postcount an interesting piece of information?
See #5.

10. It allows each of us, at a glance, to see how much of our lives we've wasted here.

Hmmm good point.

The signup date gives us that information, not postcount.

[velvet]

Dizzy.. pay attention 'cause you know I don't say this a lot when it comes to your posts: but I agree with you ;) I know what you mean about going easy on newbies, being carefull with spammers (we had quite a few of them for a while in the Real Kinky forum and the Love & Sex if I'm correct) and I even do agree that it can form a measurement to the level of involvement of people (very high post count being not very interesting social life). However, an other user made a valid point that it doesn't work the other way, since Skip, some admins and 'oldies' like ourselfs don't have very high post counts, although we are pretty involved (I'm not making a statement here about our social lives ;)). I guess we just *think* before we post a thread or a reply ;)

Nice seeing you back here as well.. although we don't always agree, it makes this place absolutely more interesting! ;)

As for bird migration.. somehow I feel not so happy anymore with you being a Dutchie aswell.. */turns on really big annoying letters* I wonder why that is */off with the big ones*

..edit..
.. maybe a better way of seeing how someone's doing is looking at their post per day rate... and yes, I think you can make assumptions based on that. No offence.. but what to think of someone who posts 69.25 posts per day? And yes.. this IS a specific, existing user... I wonder whoooo....

[monosphere]

Velvet agreeing with Dizzy??? Has hell finally frozen over??


I don't know how much of an opinion I have on the post count. I can see the benefits, but at the same time can see the problems. I look at some ppl who have a high post count per day and wonder how much time they spend in front of their computer, or if they are actually giving worthwhile posts or just filling space, etc. I also look at the ones with less than 10 posts who have been here since it reopened and wonder if they're just busy outside of the world of computers, or if they are spammers, or just not very talkative. And then I think to myself, why do I need to know this info? I can understand moderators having this to their disposal, but do we need to know? It's kinda like that reputation thing. I kinda question that, although someone sent me some good vibes there and I thank them for it, so maybe I shouldn't complain about it. I don't know if I have a point to make. I was just trying to add another post to my thread on my way to 100.:D

Mono