Peace Fest [Archive]

lunar forest

06-23-2004, 02:12 AM

Ok, so who is really seriouse about helping to orgonize The Peace Festival?!

It will take a lot of work, and a lot of peacful loving people, but I think this thing can really happen. Here are my thought on it:

We could call it "The Peace Festival." I think simple is sometimes better. Just plain peace. What do ya think?

I vote we have it in Ohio! But I that's just convient for me. ;) Maybe we could take it on the road? Maybe it could be held in several different locations throughout the summer?

I've been thinking about this a lot. Dh and I have been involved with these kinds of things, but we've never done it ourselves. We've seen a lot of failure! If I were doing it (and could do it) right now, this is what I would do, locally speaking, anyway:

I would find a camp site/huge lot of land to hold the festival. It woul have to be somewhere very large (obviously) and somewhere cheap! (I do know someone who has land in ohio that they use for festivals....maybe I could get ahold of him, I bet he'd be really into this...)

We would get lots of good bands who are willing to play because they love making music and getting heard, not for money (in this day, this may prove to be the hardest part!) They could sell their merch., but otherwise be making no money on the gig. It's kind of like a charity, right? :)

We would charge for people to have booths to sell their goods at, but not outragouse prices, just for the sake of covering some of the cost of the site. We'd have food venders, homebusinesses (like handmade goods,) organizations and non-profit goups (of course only peaceful ones!)

People would camp at the site for the festival, and they would only pay what it costs to camp there (of course, at the group rate.)

I think the biggest problem I'm thinking of right now (the point my husband brought up to me) would be the sound equipment and stages. We would have to be renting these, and this can be very expensive! Perhaps because this is a nonprofit event some one would donate it?! That would be what to hope for, and try to get, IMHO!

So what does everybody think?
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soulrebel51

06-23-2004, 02:43 AM

i think it sounds like a very good idea. all your points were great, but I think you would overall get alot more people to see it if you went on tour. where i live there is alot of open spaces like that, public and private, but im sure that many of the nice people would let you use their land for free. im not sure where you would get the sound equipment and stages, but if i would be able to travel along with it i know i would help set up each festival, and i have friends that would help also, all for free

Nathan11

06-23-2004, 02:46 AM

that's a bitchin' idea. i'd be willing to help any way i can. if you did take it on the road, i'd be able to set something up here. i may be a bit young, but i am older than my years. i can get things done.

if you need anything, pm me

lunar forest

06-23-2004, 04:32 AM

Thanks for the replies, so far! It is good to see at least some people willing to help with something bigger than their own gratification! These days there are yuppies everywhere who think only of themselves, it is refreshing to see something different!

I don't think age is a problem in the least! I personally know how mature "young" people can be. People usually only live up to what they are expected to. But back to the topic!

I would love to take something like this on the road, but that might be a little ambitouse for the first one! Also, I, personally would have a little trouble with it because my husband would have to take off work for the whole time (which is not an option) or I would have to go without him with my two little ones, which would be pretty hard (but lots of fun, I'm sure!)

I really am wondering what we could do about equipment, does anyone have an idea about it?

alice_d_millionaire

06-23-2004, 04:37 AM

when exactly do you plan on having this thing? it sounds lovely, by the way. if you want free music, my band would be glad to play, simply because thats what we like doing. the only problem is getting there, but tennessee isnt too far away from ohio. best of luck on your endeavour.

lunar forest

06-23-2004, 04:41 AM

Thank you, adm!

I am thinking that summer 2005 shouldn't be too soon, but maybe it is?

I should say, if anyone is seriously interested in playing, volunteering, or even having a booth at a peace fest in ohio, you can pm me! But we can talk here, too, it!

alice_d_millionaire

06-23-2004, 05:36 AM

summer '05 sounds great. i'll be out of school, and out on my own. how many days ya think it will be?

lunar forest

06-23-2004, 06:16 AM

See, these are the kind of things we need to talk about... I don't know how many days. A weekend seems to short, but a week seem too long. What do you guys think?

Acorn

06-23-2004, 03:40 PM

i love the idea! theres not much i can do. you need to do some advertising too, nothing to fancy, just enough so people come and know about it. it would be cool if we could find a place that would donate peace stickers or buttons too. i think 4 days would be cool. not to long but not too short.

NCguitarhippie

06-23-2004, 04:27 PM

we can have everyone post flyers and posters in their towns and cities, mostly the big hang out spots for teens and college kids. that will p[retty much take care of publicity. and if the media hears about it, they'll cover it. i mean, we have people from all over the country on these forums, we have nationwide support. we should get in touch with the admin for hipforums and see if we can get a topic thing on the homepage of the website. you know? then everyone will see it and offer help. title it "The Peace Festival." or perhaps something encourageing help. i'm sure the ageing psychedelici rock bands would love to play one last peace convention... there's just no way to get to them.

did woodstock cost anything?

peace,
keith sweezy

maryfairy

06-23-2004, 04:48 PM

i'll post flyers. i'll be in sanfrancisco then and i'm sure a lot of the people there will want to go. will someone be making a flyer and then giving everyone here it so we can print it out and everything? or do we make our own? i guess this is something to decide later.

here's some of the prices and other things i thought you might fing useful about woodstock 69:
1.60........Minimum hourly wage paid workers preparing the site
6.............Months of prep time before the festival
6.50........Price (in dollars) of advance sale ticket for a single day
8.............Price (in dollars) to be charged for a SINGLE day ticket
at the gate
18............Number of doctors who treated 6,000 patients
36............Number of nurses who treated 6,000 patients
50............Number of additional doctors flown in from New York City
on August 16
80............Width (in feet) of the stage
80............Lawsuits filed after the festival
346...........Number of off-duty New York City policemen hired at $50
per day each, joined by 100 local sheriffs, several
hundred State Troopers and deputies from 12 counties
600...........Number of Port-O-Sans (portable toilets)
1,300..........Pounds of canned food, sandwiches and fruit flown in
by emergency helicopters
1,500..........Paid (in dollars) for Santana's 45 minute performance.
4,062..........Ticket holders who received a refund check because they
were unable to gain attendance
7,500..........Paid (in dollars) for The Grateful Dead to perform
11,200.........Paid (in dollars) for The Who to perform
50,000.........Reported price (in dollars) paid for 600 acres of Max
Yasgur's pasture
500,000........Estimated cost of festival (in dollars), revised to $2.6
million ten months after
1,300,000.......Dollars collected in advance sales

NCguitarhippie

06-23-2004, 05:56 PM

woah. thats alot of info/ money

who organized it?

maryfairy

06-23-2004, 06:02 PM

John Roberts, Joel Rosenman, Artie Kornfeld and Michael Lang

NCguitarhippie

06-23-2004, 06:07 PM

woodstock, i mean.

NCguitarhippie

06-23-2004, 06:08 PM

like, w ho are they. names mean nothing.

lunar forest

06-23-2004, 06:13 PM

Wow, that is a lot of information! Thanks, maryfairy!

Now see, this is the thing. I really think it needs to be free, or REALLY cheap for people to go. However, I don't think that we should have to pay for people to go to a cheap or free fest, either. We would have to be able to get most of the costs either donated (which I doubt will happen,) or paid for by advanced ticket sales, vending fees, and that kind of thing.

About flyers. I suppose as long as it has all the same information that everyone can make their own. Advertisement IS very important, so it is something to think about. I think everbody has good ideas, keep 'em coming!

maryfairy

06-23-2004, 06:41 PM

like, w ho are they. names mean nothing.The counterculture's biggest bash - it ultimately cost more than $2.4 million - was sponsored by four very different, and very young, men: John Roberts, Joel Rosenman, Artie Kornfeld and Michael Lang. The oldest of the four was 26. John Roberts supplied the money. He was heir to a drugstore and toothpaste manufacturing fortune. He had a multimillion-dollar trust fund, a University of Pennsylvania degree and a lieutenant's commission in the Army. He had seen exactly one rock concert, by the Beach Boys. Robert's slightly hipper friend, Joel Rosenman, the son of a prominent Long Island orthodontist, had just graduated from Yale Law School. In 1967, the mustachioed Rosenman, 24, was playing guitar for a lounge band in motels from Long Island to Las Vegas. Roberts and Rosenman met on a golf course in the fall of 1966. By winter 1967, they shared an apartment and were trying to figure out what they ought to do with the rest of their lives. They had one idea: to create a screwball situation comedy for television, kind of like a male version of "I Love Lucy". "It was an office comedy about two pals with more money than brains and a thirst for adventure." Rosenman said. "Every week they would get into a different business venture in some nutty scheme. And every week they would be rescued in the nick of time from their fate. " To get plot ideas for their sitcom, Roberts and Rosenman put a classified ad in the Wall Street Journal and The New York Times in March 1968: "Young Men With Unlimited Capital looking for interesting, legitimate investment opportunities and business propositions. " They got thousands of replies, including one for biodegradable golf balls. Another seemed strange enough to work as a real business venture; Ski-bobs, bicycles on skis that were a fad in Europe. Roberts and Rosenman researched the idea before abandoning it. In the process, the two went from would-be television writers to wanna-be venture capitalists. "Somehow, we became the characters in our own show," Rosenman said. Artie Kornfield, 25, wore a suit, but the lapels were a little wide and his hair brushed the top of his ears. He was a vice president at Capitol Records. He smoked hash in the office and was the company's connection with the rockers who were starting to sell millions of records. Kornfeld had written maybe 30 hit singles, among them "Dead Man's Curve," recorded by Jan and Dean. He also wrote songs and produced the music for the Cowsills. Michael Lang didn't wear shoes very often. Friends described him as a cosmic pixie, with a head full of curly black hair that bounced to his shoulders. At 23, he owned what may have been the first head shop inthe state of Flordia. In 1968, Lang had produced one of the biggest rock shows ever, the two-day Miami Pop Festival, which drew 40,000 people. At 24, Lang was the manager of a rock group called Train, which he wanted to sign to a record deal. He bought his proposal to Kornfeld at Capitol Records in late December 1968.

shadowofthesun

06-23-2004, 07:17 PM

ALright.....this sounds like an awesome idea. I'm In. Honestly and 100% in. Let's see here... So first off, forget the flyers/advertising/etc. for now. The major thing is finding the location. I'd say the best way to go about this is to set up one location, central U.S., at the begining of summer '05....Like...early June? That way, if the first festival turns out to be a big hit, that would be half the advertising for the next fest. Then, that second location could be set up and advertising would, like I said, be half way down. Am I clear on this or am I confusing? Let me know.
Secondly.... Stages shouldn't be hard to find/set up... Otherwise, and this sounds nutty, but, if you find a location and no stage, make sure the location has a hill....preferably one that rises abruptly. LOL. Who needs a stage, than?! LMAO. Anyhow.... I hope this helps in someway....and maybe by next year I'll have a band together. I do know the members of a good band and they may do it but I'd have to talk to them closer to time. Their website is http://www.garageband.com/artist/Blindpoet3 You can listen to a few of their old songs on their...
Okay, but, I think that everyone should have to pay like....I dunno...$2 to get into the booth/concert area, while campsites would go for like... $7/person? But if one group of people decide to rent two adjoining campsites they should get like one person free or something.....You know what I mean? Probbaly sounds stupid.... erh... I'm trying to think of things here.... Well, anyway, if you all need me to help than I'm with you all the way. That's for damn sure. Peace Fest will be born!!!!! Summer 2005. ....Guess what?! I'll be 18 on May 24th, 2005.....FREEDOM! LOL. L8er, guys.....Peace, love, and freedom.

lunar forest

06-23-2004, 07:22 PM

Ok, real quick about the stages. You need a stage for the acustics, so that the sounds don't just go into the ground.

I'll post more later, I'm going hiking with my doggies and kiddos, see ya!

shadowofthesun

06-23-2004, 07:23 PM

Thought of something actually..... two things
One---- The reason for having the first on in early June is not only the advertising for the second....but it gives time to set up a second location. We should set up the second location in advance and have it pending the results of the first fest. You know?
Second--- We can't really figure out ticket prices until we know the approximate total cost of all expenses for the fest. So, 86 my cost suggestions. Loves.

MichaelByrd1967

06-23-2004, 07:49 PM

There should be little or no profit from these shows. Tickets should be cheap, and refreshments should be cheap, and the money from that goes to the hard working roadies and people working the consession stands. The only down side to some festivals is that some bands will refuse to go on until they see their cash. That's not what we should do. It should be something like Monterey where all of the bands played for free, because it should be for charity. That's what these shows should earn money for.

Charities like AIDS research, Cancer Research, Money to the poor in Africa & India, Environmental Help, etc., are charities that should benefit from concerts, not companies like Clear Channel, who killed Bonnaroo.

There has to be a good representation of our way of life, presented in all aspects of the show. Whether it be music, money making, food, the crowd's well-being, etc.

One other reason why big festivals like Woodstock, Monterey, Bath, etc. went well, was because of the feeling. The feeling is what matters the most. We have to have the right kind of music, folk, rock, country, etc. Peaceful stuff. Stuff that the crowd can soak in, and enjoy. No Kid Rock or Korn or Metallica, but music that's heavy enough to please.

That's what a festival should be. Cheap, good for the world, and good for the people coming there. And putting it on the road, going to outdoor ampitheatres, would spread it to a wider audience so big, that the flow would be uncontrollable.

DrRobert

06-23-2004, 08:21 PM

I was talking with lunar forest regarding this idea and it's really great to see so many people so passionate about making this happen. Now that the ball has begun to start roilling, it's time to really make this happen.

1st)a site...enough room for campsites, a stage, and massive amounts of people. not to mention vendors.

2) a budget....we need to try and figure out how much everything will cost

3)sponsors...obviously needed to make this cost cheaper.

4)musicians...folk and rock only. we all saw what happened to woodstock 99 when a group like Limp Bizkit was invited. DMB, The Dead, Bela, Phish, etc.

5)advertisement...starts with flyers, eventually if it gets big enough the media will pick it up and from there we're golden.

I think we should start finding people to head up different things. im gettin really excited folks, as this could truly be somehting special, and to think it started at hipforums on a whim. so any volunteers to head up certain aspects, please stand up. i will do all i can in making this happen. lets do it guys. lets stamp our generation on the map and give the 1960's gen. something to be proud of.

peace and love
adam

MichaelByrd1967

06-23-2004, 08:46 PM

Funny, it was my whim... (not to brag though)

I'd be glad to head up event planning.

shadowofthesun

06-23-2004, 08:49 PM

I will volunteer my time and energy for anything. SO, just place me in a certain aspect of this festival and I'll do my damnedest. Right... so...I would definately do just about anything including setting up/cleaning up....traveling w/ everyone involved to help... all that what not. I could also do alot of advertising, etc. I don't know....just place me in a mission and I'll strive to ge beyond and deliver over 100%. Loves to you all......This is not only exciting but something that MUST happen.

lucyinthesky

06-23-2004, 10:11 PM

im so down and in. for sure. dont forget meeeeeeeeeeeee

Pobble

06-23-2004, 10:51 PM

what side of the atlantic would this festival be held?

Nathan11

06-23-2004, 11:47 PM

If you all think it is a good idea, I could make a really groovy website about the fest. If we are all in agreement, then I will call it http://www.PeaceFest2004.tk Does that work for everyone? If so, I'll get started a.s.a.p.

MichaelByrd1967

06-24-2004, 03:46 AM

Both sides of the Atlantic, if it's a travelling show. And how can we be sure if it will be in 2004?

Nathan11

06-24-2004, 03:48 AM

Jesus...haha, I meant to put 2005.

staples420

06-24-2004, 04:42 AM

Count me in! I'd be willing to volunteer for anything needed. Ohio would be convenient for me as well, but whatever everyone decides on will be cool. I would be willing to set up a booth too if more are needed. Just let me know and I can start gettin stuff together to sell. I'd be willin to help advertise and everything too.. It's really a great idea! I think a website would be helpful also.. Well, PM w/ further plans.

lunar forest

06-24-2004, 05:37 AM

This is the kind of brainstorming that we need!

I think that if we can get enough people invovled than we could hold it in differnt locations. It wouldn't evne have to be the same bands, because it's not a about the bands. It's about music in general, and more importantly, peace and love!

I think that the bands NEED to volunteer, because it is not about money, and if they are in it for the money, I think we'd all rather not have them. That also makes it a whole hell of a lot cheaper! Also, everyone needs to volunteer, otherwise the costs would be impossible, and again, it's not about the money, it's about the love!

The sponsors idea is exelant!!! Who are we thinking of?

Folk, rock, and I'd have to say Reggae, too! But you are right, we don't want any fred dursts smashing things and getting everybody worked up!

Nathan, you could get cracking on that web site. I think that is a great idea! Can we have a message board kind of thing on there, so that we can discuss all this there, or is that too much?

Did I forget anything?

NCguitarhippie

06-24-2004, 05:42 AM

i'd like to point out that wherever it is, it can't be in the south. it will be too hot in the sumemr, there wouldn't be enough water and people would be dehydrating. just a thoguht.

and i'm in on trying to help, just as long as someone gives me a ride... haha.

peace,
keith sweezy

lunar forest

06-24-2004, 05:47 AM

The heat is a good point. Again, I think ohio is a good place! ;) Does anyone have any other ideas on location?

alice_d_millionaire

06-24-2004, 05:56 AM

nice... we'll need someone to make posters perhaps? or some kind of art work any way... your wish is my command!

Nathan11

06-24-2004, 06:38 AM

oh, I'm sure i could, it might take a bit of hardwork on my part, but i could get it done. i'll start working on it to see what all i can get done.

Republican

06-24-2004, 07:04 AM

Charities like AIDS research, Cancer Research, Money to the poor in Africa & India, Environmental Help, etc., are charities that should benefit from concerts

I think the best charity that could be supported by a group of hippies that would help the most to undo the damage caused by the 60's generation, and help stop the lasting effects of the USSR's efforts to "overthrow america through there youth"(as Khrushchev said) would be a charity that helped combat drug addiction. I know many of you like drugs or want them legalized but your opinions would change if your children's lives went to hell in a handbasket because of them....

now just incase you dont know that the USSR did have a role in drugs....
1. Khrushchev gave a speech at the UN in the 50's or early 60's regarding it..
2. the USSR supported many countries who sell drugs as a cash crop (columbia, china, and cuba and they exported them themselves)
3. its working.. as evidenced by the increasing percentage of our population living behind bars due to drug-related crimes....

If they did this they would make a big difference and parents would like the fact that the rock scene is not supporting drugs for once... I know from my expierence that drugs are common at rock concerts and I'm sure parents know... doing this the bands could break a stereotype that is true for the most part..

alice_d_millionaire

06-24-2004, 07:11 AM

oh no! better go stop the reds! but you do make some good points.

Nathan11

06-24-2004, 08:17 AM

The site I made for the Peace Fest is up and running. It is: http://www.PeaceFest2005.tk It needs an intro on the first page, and a 'info' page so curious people can know more. I have also created a forum for just the Fest. There is a link on the .tk page. Hope that someone could help me out with an intro essay. Thanks!

Republican

06-24-2004, 08:58 AM

oh no! better go stop the reds! but you do make some good points.
Im not sayin aneything bout communism.. Im just saying the USSR is bad.. although I think Gorbachev was a great man. I wasn't saying do it to beat the USSR I was pointing out that It was something we should do because it is an attack on america.. the war on drugs hasn't done aneything.. we need to keep it up but getting drug users into rehab would be much more of a sucess and if rock bands would do it it would be a win/win situation..

Magical Mystery Girl

06-24-2004, 09:10 AM

For a Peace Fest, my band would definitely travel and play. Keep us in mind: www.fluidrouge.com (http://www.fluidrouge.com/) :)

Pobble

06-24-2004, 11:32 AM

hey- If you come over to england, come play at glastonbury- the food etc. is great and the people around here are all really friendly towards hippys http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/hippy.gif

NCguitarhippie

06-24-2004, 06:52 PM

DEFINATLY have fluid rouge play.

you know what would be great? instead of having a whole PA system, let's have everyone that owns an amplifier with a wattage rating over 100 watts to bring it. then, wwe can hook em all up together.

keithsweezy

moonlightdelerium

06-24-2004, 11:52 PM

I would love to play!!! I opened for Dr. Hook (the guy who sings Cover of The Rolling Stone) and I gig around locally every weekend. You know what. Maybe all the possible musicians should send in a bit of what they do to whoever would be in charge of that aspect of it just so that we have a bit of insight into what to expect. You know who else would probably be into this is SitarEric. This is a great idea ya know.

soulrebel51

06-25-2004, 01:02 AM

i would love to be a part of the peace fest, and i would do anything/volunteer for anything concerning the peace fest. id have to travel with alice d. millionaires band tho...lol
but i could definately start advertising as early as tomorrow around where i live. if its for peace ill do anything.
instead of going against all drugs, why not just go against the ones that will really fuck you up, and the drugs that are "safe", we speak out for them. just an idea

Nathan11

06-25-2004, 01:30 AM

soulrebel, i know what you're trying to say, but we aren't going to advertise "HEY BRING YOUR HERB! WE SMOKE TOO!" I mean, how stupid would that be? To each his own I say, if someone wants to bring drugs, they're going to, we wont be able to stop them. we will deffinatly be supporting no drugs though.
hope this makes since to you

Peace Fest Forums (http://peacefest2005.proboards27.com/)

soulrebel51

06-25-2004, 02:05 AM

i wasnt trying to say "bring you herb we smoke too", i was kinda going for telling people about the dangers of doing drugs, but letting them know that marijuana is the safest drug around, not like their teachers told them. the only problem with weed is the smoke, but any kind of smoke will give you cancer and people need to know that. i hate getting lectured by a teacher about the dangers of marijuana smoke when they themself smoke cigarettes, which are possibly the most dangerous/stupidest thing you could do to your body

MichaelByrd1967

06-25-2004, 05:15 AM

If heat and dehydration is a problem (not just in the south, but everywhere it would be hot), we should set up a few tents with Air Conditioning and Drinks. I would also love to play, I have a band. And I'd love to play some original songs.

NCguitarhippie

06-25-2004, 05:35 AM

i'd be happy to be in charge of music if this gets rolling. we should have cities designated as leaders. you know, have like chapel hill be music(my town). or perhaps even whole states. the idea is to get a group of people (not just one person) to take care of a topic, and if it's designated by city, then these leaders can meet together. just an idea

how's about everyone post their AIM sn on here... if you don't have it, get it :-). that way, we can post a time that we can all meet in a chatroom and talk.

i'd like to point out the RIDICULOUS price of water nowadays. so it will be hard to do water unless we sell it. but we can't have crazily inflated prices. also, the airconditioned tents is a great idea, except...

WHERE DO WE GET POWER FOR ALL THIS!!!
generators? i doubt they'l be able to power hundereds of watts and power to the amps. they would work fine for tents though.

i think this shouldn't be a traveling thing. it would cost too much money. also, we would have a higher attendence rating if it's only one place for like a week/weekend. trust me, people will travel for peace fest.

oh yeah, and we don't need to be advertising yet... we don't even have a place to do it!

peace,
keith sweezy

(BTW... my screen name is shadyguitarplyer. message me people.)

earthy44

06-25-2004, 05:39 AM

Whenever, Where-ever, I am IN!

staples420

06-25-2004, 05:48 PM

I think designating groups to certain topics is a great idea, and it will probably be much easier to accomplish things that way. It would be easy to do within cities, but cities may not be a large enough.. States would probably be too large though... Anyone have any more suggestions on this? Oh yea, my AIM screename is happyfreak06

soulrebel51

06-25-2004, 10:48 PM

oh why cant we use msn? I have aim but it wont load anymore

NCguitarhippie

06-26-2004, 06:23 AM

well.. cuz it's used by most people and i'm on my mom's computer and i can't install anything, so... i'm using AIM through their quickbuddy service... (which you could probably use too)

soulrebel51

06-26-2004, 07:04 AM

oh hey its working now. my sign on name is pimpjuice5169

shadowofthesun

06-26-2004, 07:41 PM

Okay.....So I'm just going to jot down real quick what I think the control topics should be....You know, like, the topics that certain people are going to work under....Tell me if I miss anything. Also, pretty much everyone has to work together at some point, the different areas and all that....BUT, only on a few aspects of ever topic. I also think there should be a team leader for every topic so that team leaders could converse with eachother on all plans, problems, etc.

1)Event location planning:
Put together a list of requirements for the event location, such as, how many people expected vs. acres/square feet; type of terrain vs. health/sanitation/security/weather problems; location vs. relevancy to the event itself.....does a certain location have a spiritual/historical meaning?... All those kinds of things. It's alot of work...Lol.
2)Sanitation/Food/Water:
That's self explanatory.
3)Music/soundstage/etc.:
We're certainly shooting for a certain type of music....SO, I think that whoever posted that idea about sending samples of the music and going over what can be expected/choosing who should be there, had a great idea.
4)Campsite manager:
How many people vs. size of campsite...any pricing information...rules on campfires/booze/etc. (work w/ security on that one). The rest is self-explanatory.
5)Product Vendor Mangagement:
Once again.....Self-Explanatory.
6)Security:
People who would be in charge of getting security information regarding the regulations of this kind of event....also, after attaining the said information, they could be the Peace Fest "Anti-Police" Security....not as a title, but in theoretical terms. You know what I mean, I hope.....Anyway....Also,in charge of basic rules for overall conduct.
7)This one is a maybe..... But a team of people who have other assignments as well, who could travel around and pick up the volunteers a couple days before the show until a couple days after for set-up/clean-up, etc.
8)Advertisement management....Ofcourse, EVERYONE will advertise but there should be a plan for when to release certain aspects of the Peace Fest details and how to go about it. Also, where the areas of advertisement should be...A main "logo" or "symbol" specifically designed for Peace Fest to be used and manipulated on all posters.......etc.
9)Volunteers to be placed where needed the most.

Okay.....that's all I've got for now. I hope I helped in someway. Peace, love, and freedom.

/|\

06-26-2004, 10:45 PM

i dont want real police as our security...they can be too controlling at times. We need signs/posters/flyers to be hand made or printed out and distributed to people and maybe the media. We also should decide early on about a set date, length of the festival, and location.

ozzy63347

06-26-2004, 10:48 PM

Hey I would love to join in on the fun

soulrebel51

06-26-2004, 11:10 PM

[QUOTE=/|\]i dont want real police as our security...they can be too controlling at times.QUOTE]

yes no real police, i dont feel like getting arrested for speaking my mind again, and besides I dont think many pigs are all for this thing they call peace

lunar forest

06-27-2004, 02:34 AM

That is great, shadowofthesun! I posted it over on the peace fest forums. If anyone isn't over there already, come! http://peacefest2005.proboards27.com/index.cgi

shadowofthesun

06-27-2004, 09:06 PM

I think that policemen are something that we are just going to have to deal with. I believe there is a law stating that they need to be at all events such as that. No? Especially an event with a large amount of people. Okay, I'm going to start posting in the "Peace Fest 2005 site/forum" instead of this one now...I think everyone else should, too. Should I copy paste my last post in there though? Shit....I'm going to.
Peace,love, Freedom.

mama jade

06-28-2004, 12:29 AM

the rainbow gathering.........lots of people volunteer their time for this and it's all free. money really isn't accepted there, it's just trade that works. i'm sure someone else has been to a rainbow gathering and knows what i'm talking about. what i'm saying is study how that's done...............it's been going on for years and is successful every year. there's no fee for camping, food, anything. i don't know where i'm going with this...............i just thought of the rainbow gathering when i saw this thread.
peace

Starr

06-28-2004, 01:19 AM

Id love to help out! This sounds like a great idea for an awesome cause.

The mounted police at Bonnaroo this year didnt bother anyone that I know of at all. They were just kind of there in case violence broke out (which it didnt) and they didnt really care about drugs or speaking your mind (from what I witnessed). So if it is mandatory to have poilce present...try to tell them only to react to violence, which wont be a problem at a peace fest, lol.

If theres anything I can do, just let me know. Im an art major at a small university in huntsville, al. so maybe I can help with posters or something. I also know a few friends that would love to pitch in and help.

soulrebel51

06-28-2004, 06:39 AM

in amerika the pigs here will go after anyone that is doing anything illegal, especially drugs. thats how it is where I live anyway. so i do not think that local police would just turn their backs on the population that is smoking weed or whatever

lespaulman83

07-06-2004, 05:56 PM

hey, i love this idea this is awesome! but we can't do it this soon. liek you said it's going to cost $$$. so i figure if your serious & can get people to do it i'm ready. we need to get flyers up, we need to advertise this. i figure next years some time we should be able to get it going. i mean yea it's a long time to wait but we need people that are willing to donate money & to come & watch. we also need bands, cover bands, little town bands, i'm presonally in a band, but we aren't doing to great. we need a drummer & singer...i could handle the drummer & i might be able to sing. but i could paly there. it would be great if you could im me on aol or e-mail me so wecould talk about it. ohio sounds good to me as long as we have room to do this...we could build the stage. i could drive to the place, build the stage, if we were that low on money, & it's be cool. also we need the amps. amps are going to be hard to get we need big ones so the people in the back can hear. we're going to need to charge money though for them to come & see it or have a donation thing. well i dunno e-mail me or instant message me on aol. e-mail: epiphonelespaul6@hotmail.com aol: super426birdhemi

jimi morrison

07-11-2004, 09:44 AM

Hey i love this idea, im sorry i havent read all the ideas, im in the middle of break at band practice, so im sorry if some of these ideas are repeats, but i was thinkin my band could play there mabye raise some money for the fest mabye u can contact some real famous bands well whatever u do ill be there.

jimi morrison

07-11-2004, 10:02 AM

ive read some more about it sound great ill put flyers up my band will play for free, plus we have some connections, we might be able to get some big bands to play for free and some good stage equepment cheap, but im not promissing but we have some connections ill kepp u posted. i was wondering if any one will be donin fundraisers, well when we start makin more money we will send some if u can just tell me were to send it we will be glad to.

all you need is love!!!!

jimi morrison

07-11-2004, 10:42 AM

i just e-mailed a fellow musician he wrote the song wipe out and played in his band mu, he knows people form candheat, spirt, jimmy vaughan,and alot more ill keep u posted this shit is exiting man

soulrebel51

07-11-2004, 12:24 PM

yes but no matter what, the bands have to play for free. check out the boards at peacefest2005.proboards27.com/index.cgi

jimi morrison

07-12-2004, 05:39 AM

i e-mailed merelle and got this response:

"Dan
Ive played many a peace rally in my time..., and lived through the 60s & 70s...
If it was near where I live in Calif. it might be feasable, but being a working
musician , playing for no pay dosent cut it as I have people to support and
bills to pay. Maybe if it was a one day thing and nearby or trans was provided,
and professionaly promoted..
Best Of Luck,
Merrell"

i dont know how many bands we can get without money, or professional promotion?

we need to do something about this, we need the big bands to get the kids to show up. i really hope this all works out.

jimi morrison

07-12-2004, 05:40 AM

oh yea why are there no posts on the peace fest site?

kjhippielove88

07-12-2004, 06:31 AM

this is a great idea and i think it could really bring people together. setting up booths for people to sell their own hand-crafted jewelry and other things is a fantastic idea. word of mouth is good advertising- and its free. i would really like to be a part of this process. if theres anything i can do just let me no

misc

07-12-2004, 06:45 AM

As was said in the first post the sound/lighting/staging is going to be expensive/detailed. I wish to offer my (free) services as a the Lighting and Sound Designer and the Technical Director for this amazing oppertunity for us hippy's to show everyone what we are made of.

After I graduate from High School I plan to major in Technical Theatre and get my masters in Lighting Design.

Of course my services would be free, and I am sure I can get a crew of people that would help run the "show". The only expensive would be the rental of equipment. Contact me offboard and I will supply more information about how much we are looking at.

Peace, love, and safety.

jimi morrison

07-12-2004, 08:05 AM

we will need to pay, we need the big bands to get the big turnout, and no big bands will play for free, plus we have no proffesional promoting, we really look like a bunch of kids with a dream, we will need to pay them so they belive we are serious, we need to get sponsors (its real easy to get sponsors they will give you banners and shit like that and if you put the banners up they will pay u for advertising them) they will give money to pay the talent, if we can get a big bus company as a sposnor we can get free buses from any of the company locations, i belive we can do this

and if we dont get the big bands and the big turnout we wont be able to do it again, no bands will show up to play a show that didnt do well befor, and the corwds will keep getting lesser until the thing runs into the ground, we need to make sure we do this right the first time get all the advertising we can do what ever we can even if it means paying money and alot of it, at the first woodstock every one was payd and at the end of the 3 day festival they made no money they lost money, but with all the god advertisment and bands that there MONEY could buy they had a huge following, and they made a huge profit on the next woodstock because it had a good reputation, we have to pay the talnet we have to get all the ads we can we have to do wlovever we can to get a crowd, we may not make any money we may lose money but if we build a good reputation the next show will be a hit , and we will make money for the CHARITY'S.

oh yea post messages on website u need to join- http://peacefest2005.tk

kjhippielove88

07-12-2004, 08:21 PM

i heard the tickets cost $150.00 plus a $5 parking fee for woodstock 99. thats carzy. i also found this site that had stats from woodstock 69 http://www.woodstock69.com/woodstock_stats.htm

soulrebel51

07-13-2004, 07:18 AM

jimi morrison, you havent been with PeaceFest since it was first thought of like I have and a lot of other people have. If bands want to play for money and not for the love of the music, then they are not worth the time. just go to the forums, not the website, and check out posts there and sign up(i think you gotta sign up to read posts and threads and what not there)

kjlove, it also cost a hell of alot of money for woodstock, because of all the big bands that were paid to play.

misc, email lunarforest or nathan11(flowerchild) about that. thatd be great if you could do that

jimi morrison

07-13-2004, 08:45 AM

i belive thats true but if we dont pay no bands will come it dosnt matter how much they love music belive me i worked in the music bissness tour promoter,manager, and musician, they wont take the people that are heading this thing that seriously plus most working class musicians have familys to feed and bills to pay i didnt think much bands were going to do it and ive been talking to alot of bands and they wont take me seriously they love the idea but i always get the same response, "i wish i could do it, great idea, its to far out of the way in oiho, i my be famous but i have mouths to feed and bills to pay, if it dosnt pay im sorry but we cant do it, i wish i could and i might if it was closer to my house in california, but i cant, best of luck. " and that was what i got from john fogerty of CCR, and basically all of my conections. its just my opinion but i think they should be pay at least a small amount, these are the type of guys u need if u want national attention if u want to spread the message of peace. well maby some bands will do it im sure unknown bands will mine would love to and im sure there will be a great turnount but if you want it to be a sucsess and u it to happen again u r going to need to pay to get good artists its really not that hard when i worked as a manager my bands got paid at alot of diff fests not by the people that started the fest but by the combanys who sponserd the fests alot of the people who started these fests didnt have to pay a thing, i my be wrong i dont think so but i truly hope im proved wrong.