How is this plant going????

[cervixgirl]

Hello there, these plant is 5-6 months old. I'd like to read some opinions about it. It's a natural girl, plain Sun and everything. I thought it'd be ready by sept-oct, and it may be, but some of its "buds" (if you can call them that way because they measure no more than a human finger) are now totally brownish. Some others still show lots of white or clear pistils, but some have the total branch showing brown (kinda dead) pistils. should i cut them out? should i leave them as they are? I wouldn't like to cut the whole branch, brcause i don't have more seeds. It would be better just to peel the branch's flowers and leafs and wait for new leafs and flowers to grow in it. but i'm no expert.

What do you recon?

Check the photos.

[meangreen]

honestly it does not look like a variety to carry on progeny with.Get some better seed stock and try again.Is that the same plant you have had numerous probs with over the last 6 months?

[cervixgirl]

Oh i thought the girls were doing fine. Yeah it's the same plant. The prob is that i'm afraid to get some commercial seeds. These come from a smoke i had on december. Real good. I'm not sure if potent (cause i'm not a pro smoker) but 3/4 of a joint gave me some 4 hours of strong reaction, the last hour i even felt kinda bad and with cold hands and feet. It was too much i guess.

Hmmm....so, what is that you see is not woorking on my plannts? Are the buds too small? not a nice color or the leafs?

I'm so glad someone like you (veteran) can help me and give me advice about my babies.

Cheers !

[BigBong]

it looks like a hermie to me.. hard to tell with the picture quality..

[newagehippie]

not really a whole lot you can do with it now except just let it grow untill harvest. next plant you start, you should split the stalks slightly down the middle when they are just about 6 to 12 inches high and the single plant will grow into two plants, do it again when the two start growing strong so those will grow into 4 plants from one stem. that will help the plants grow more bushy and thicker rather than straight up and thin like the one in your photos. the nuggs should grow to be thicker that way. dont cut the leaves off the nuggs untill you harvest them.

[cervixgirl]

i'll try that stemming cut you said with a small plant i've got. How does a hermie looks like? By the way......another plant i've got hasn't really sexed ......6 months old. Is it a male? or is it too lazy.

[StonerBill]

that is sativa right? im jsut learning about the plants myself, but it seems that way. theyre not well known for big buds are they? or that much bushiness either..

still id expect, with a platn that big, some bigger buds.

[InTheFlesh]

They look beautiful! I can smell them through my monitor!

[tiedye0420]

HOLD ON A MINUTE, this is my department guys- sorry mean no offence here intended.

I been outdoor growing, since 1972. 11 years old i threw some seed in a new planter box at the jr high.scool i went to- smuggled them home on the bus in milk cartons. grew them in my yard until my dad caught me. But I been messing with this shit outdoors ever since.

What you have is spring buds dying because it is summer- that is good- your strain is not autoflower like we suspected-but aren't you like in austraila ? your seasons will differ gratley from mine.

Regardless, when the buds turn brown in the early summer like that, it is reverting to veg, I do this almost every year, it is fine, it will act dormant for three weeks or maybe four, and shoot growth from everwhere soon. The plant will explode- leave the buds on, maybe top a few down to split growth if you like- but the more you remove ,the less will come back later.

The second time that plant buds in the fall- the buds will be more compact, more resinous, and have crystals dusted everywhere. Let her rip girl you stumbled on an old trick of the outdoor trade. bud a plant twice, the second time around is knarlier.

I thought your plant had progressed rather nicely myself, though it does look predominatly sativa, if you like the high, and wish to regenerate the strain there may be some polen appearing soon, when they regenerate sometimes they think they are dying, and give a few random pollen sacks. collect them pods for when she buds again.

No ,males usually show colors regardless of light hours at 2- to 3 months old.
by five to six months it is very unlikly it is a male, the other plant you mention just did not put out spring bud, it may bud later than the other one too, but it's probly a female, probly bud in sept oct like you figure.

[alice11]

That is one damn gorgeous looking plant :)

[DarkLunacy]

that is sativa right? im jsut learning about the plants myself, but it seems that way. theyre not well known for big buds are they? or that much bushiness either..

still id expect, with a platn that big, some bigger buds. Indica is purple

[tiedye0420]

bullshit,

some indicas are, some are not.
but even the ones that are have lime green buds too.
Purple kush, a landrace indica for example,from the seeds you will plant from a pure purple kush strain, you will get some buds that are gold, some that are green ,and some that are purple. there are very few totally purple strains on earth, almost all will have some green ones come forth.
Indica is purple

[meangreen]

Tie,are you talkin dirty again.I am all balled up inside now,LOL.My opinion is a plant with little yield is a waste of time,sativa or indica.

[tiedye0420]

"Im just a dirty white boy"mean.

Yeah, but if ya like the high, chances are it will adapt to your enviroment and become a heavier yielder, if'n ya make some seeds from it
If everyone made their own seed, the people at the seedbanks would be forced to supply landrace or go out of biz.slowly undermine tha banks every chance ya get.
the selectively inbred strains like bubblegum are of course an exeption.

[geckopelli]

What you have is spring buds dying because it is summer- that is good- your strain is not autoflower like we suspected-but aren't you like in austraila ? your seasons will differ gratley from mine.

Regardless, when the buds turn brown in the early summer like that, it is reverting to veg, I do this almost every year, it is fine, it will act dormant for three weeks or maybe four, and shoot growth from everwhere soon. The plant will explode- leave the buds on, maybe top a few down to split growth if you like- but the more you remove ,the less will come back later.

The second time that plant buds in the fall- the buds will be more compact, more resinous, and have crystals dusted everywhere. Let her rip girl you stumbled on an old trick of the outdoor trade. bud a plant twice, the second time around is knarlier.

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This is exactly correct.

That's why photo-sensetive plants (in the northern hemesphere) are generally planted after april 1 outdoor.

But wait 8 more weeks or so- THEN see what you've got!

[mr.TEIL]

looks just fine to me...probably would've done better indoors

[geckopelli]

looks just fine to me...probably would've done better indoors
Not in a million years.

[veg-0-matic]

I agree with meangreen, your seed stock is not showing hybrid vigor, rather it is struggling because it has poor genetics.

when you use a seed out of a bag, which is a fantastic way to experiment and learn about the plant, it usually is a result of a hermaphroditie, in which case the genetics may be 2-4 generations removed from the orginal plant from which it came. Each time you get farther away from F1 (the orginal plant with heavy buds, high thc,etc..) the quality of the plant drops. I have started seeds from bags with mixed results, but nothing compairs to f1 generation seeds. Its not too scary to order them, and many places will ship worldwide, just be smart, dont put it on a credit card, get a money order....
Other than that, your plant looks great, and you are taking great care and pride in what you are doing!! That is the first step into a great realm, enjoy!

[cervixgirl]

Guys, thanks very much to everyone. It's great to exchange ideas and experiences with you. Im from Egypt, which is northern hemisphere as you know.
I'll post you some more pictures to show the evolution of this girls n probably some boys. That way, everyone will be able to increase their experience and knowledge... nature always acts interestingly.

About breeds... hoy do you get an F1? how do breeders get those "first strains" and what should i do and dont with the offspring (in case thay seed).

Cheers !

Here are some chuldhood pictures from them...they were born jan-feb

[geckopelli]

Let a male develop if seeds are hard to get. A seedy crop will be no less quality, just less quanity.

When you've got all the seeds you need, you can grow a sinsemilla crop.

[cervixgirl]

Here are some pictures of their actual stage. I've seen how the size AND shape of the pot can dramatically determine the size AND shape of the plant. At leat with me, the plants that are on tall n big pots grow big, small but WIDE pots deliver short and bushy plants! That's Interesting.

[geckopelli]

Holy shit!

Don't let anybody tell you different- you're doing FANTASTICK.

You're looking at up to a 1/2 kilo or more of buds 3-4 months from now.

You'll want to increase the phosphours that's available to the plant now. Also, be ready with some sticks to prop the plants up with, as the look like they're going to be top heavy.

[tiedye0420]

maybe you should try to stick one of the round wire tomato plant holders over {under maybe- like set the pot inside}them now while you can. that should hold her up when she buds. or at least help considerably. They do look nice, better than mine that i started around the same time, but im always hacking mine up around here.L.O.L.

[cervixgirl]

I think they'll be strong enough to support their buds, the stem of the biggest plant is thicker than my thumb and almost wood-strong. That may be due to the strong winds they often have to deal with.
The big ones stand up to 4-5 feet (totally, including the bucket). The strange looking girl looks like that because i had to tie its tip and make a loop in order to avoid it being seen by someone.
The really thin one resisted a draught once i went on holidays 2 months ago. I decided to cut almost all the dead stems and leaves. Then, lots of leaves started popping out and that's the result. She is 3 feet tall and very compact.

Hey TieDye, what do u mean by hacking your plant? Are yo chopping parts of it and smokin em ? or cookin em?

I just cut a handfull of leaves and some flowers (very few and small flowers) and let them dry. Then i put them on the blender and made MJ Powder. Like 60 ml of powder (+- 10 grams?). 3 or 4 heaped spoons of green powder.

Can i use that? or my plants are not potent yet. How effective is leaf usage when the plant hasn't flowered yet? How much leaf should i use to cook or smoke? How less potent is a leaf gram than a flower gram?

[tiedye0420]

yeah i smoke even the males, sometimes i'll pull a couple bottom leaves from a potential breeding male to sample taste and stone.but i even save the stems, if you get a couple pounds of stems and leaves it makes good butter.boil it in water and use butter- strain the stems &cannabis out and chill in the fridge overnight. the butter hardens on top the water . use it for cooking and it is not gritty like using straight cannabis.

but if you have some blended, it might go alright in some cooking. or even a pipe.

most other peoples leaf gives me a headache, but for some reason mine compares to decent bud. just not as long lasting of a high.

[cervixgirl]

Really !??Are just 2 or 3 leafs enough to feelthe cannabis effect? So, ifi make a joint or pure leafs, will i feel something? I mean, i don't expect 5 hours of trip, but wil they cause an effect?

I fert the plants and areate (move) the soil and i noticed like 20 leaves that were yellowish or partly dead. they were the bottom ones that doesn't recieve much sun. They were easily separated from the stem.

Do kind of dead or yellowish leaves work as well as the living green leaves? what would happen if i cooked or ate or smoked the "ill-looking leaves?" do they still have their THC?

[tiedye0420]

those are mainly the ones i smoke, when they first start to lose the green color, the plant is ready to shed them and you might as well smoke em before they lose all the green color. kinda inbetween green and yellow is the best time to pull them.As to yours im sure it is worth smoking, might not taste the best( leaf can be harsh) but it should give you buzz.

[geckopelli]

When you have some buds AND JUST CAN'T WAIT, this is how you sweat cure (one day in the hot sun ought to do it):

Stick the buds (or leaves) in a jar, seal it, and place it in the sun.

About every 2 - 3 hours the jar will be wet inside and the green will start to fade. Pour out the water and leave the jar open - in about 15 to 20 minutes it will be dry.

Repeat. After 8 or 9 hours of sun (2-3 times that much in cooler, wetter places) little water will be left in the plant, has reflected by the small amout of "sweat" in the jar, and most or all of the green will be gone.

One last air dry and you'll get a surprisingly smooth smoke.

[cervixgirl]

Wow, so, is it better to smoke yellow leaves than green ones?
Is the clorophile what feels harsh? Cause when i cut some leaves, if i let them dry in a dark place, they conserve their green color. They even show a deeper green. Should i leave the leaves get yellow? Don't the SUN destroys the THC when the plant's cut or dead?

What i did to the leaves i told you one week ago (the ones i converted into powder) was to dry them in a small electric oven. for 5 minutes or 10.

How important is the curing and how should it be done? Gecko, what if i leave the leaves (hehe) just in a dark jar, for 2 days? is that better or worse than direct sunlight?

This is such an interesting topic !

[geckopelli]

Some THC loss occurs from sun drying. It's not ideal- just quick and adequate.

Yes, the harshness is primarily due to the chlorophyll present.

[tiedye0420]

the longer it stays moist- the more of the strches and clorophill will turn to sugar, so yes the jar is good unless you let it get moldy.
No, the leaf is best picked before it turns yellow, but on the verge of turning.
Im getting sick of smokin leaf, and cannot wait to get some fully developed buds soon.

[cervixgirl]

soon buddy, soon ;)

I've haven't smoked, nor eaten any of my plant's parts, as you could guess from my kind of questions. I'm afraid of having a Test soon. At work, rumors say there may be tests comming soon. I haven't touched MJ for 7 months. Im curious. I'd like to know if my plants make any effect, but i don't want to pour some MJ powder into a friend's milk or give em cookies without telling them. they wouldn't understand me. hehehe

Afraid of tests, afraid of getting seeds...... hehe .......nah ....CAUTIOUS :P

[cervixgirl]

I'm doing just that with the yellowish leaves i cut 3 days ago. They are inside a plastic bag and in a dark, cool place. They're still kindof fresh. No opportunity to dry off as thay are INSIDE the bag.

Do you know what happened with the good forums intended for MJ growers and curing and cloning and .....specialized topics? Is this the only we've got?

Do someone likes the taste of weed?

[tiedye0420]

just go here and click on the grow forum link at top left.
http://www.marijuanagrowing.com/
Id be glad to see ya drop by- sometimes i feel so alone there since the site meltdown. (L.O.L.)

[cervixgirl]

wow, that's great !! Thanks, i was so sad about it "been deleted"


I just took a look at it ant it seems to be the same.

I'll post some stuff soon.

Cheers Mate ! hehe

[medicinalhydro2]

This plant seems to be a waste of time if you ask me. But who the hell asked me??? They do look nice, but 90 days is all you should need to produce a good plant. I would reccomend getting some beter seedstock for you.


Tie, Geck, Mean? How can we get this gal directed to some seedstock?
Egypt is a little out of my range. Can a medical patient send her some? Can she order from a seed bank?

[sm0key42o8]

not to bad...

[openmind]

HOLD ON A MINUTE, this is my department guys- sorry mean no offence here intended.

I been outdoor growing, since 1972. 11 years old i threw some seed in a new planter box at the jr high.scool i went to- smuggled them home on the bus in milk cartons. grew them in my yard until my dad caught me. But I been messing with this shit outdoors ever since.

What you have is spring buds dying because it is summer- that is good- your strain is not autoflower like we suspected-but aren't you like in austraila ? your seasons will differ gratley from mine.

Regardless, when the buds turn brown in the early summer like that, it is reverting to veg, I do this almost every year, it is fine, it will act dormant for three weeks or maybe four, and shoot growth from everwhere soon. The plant will explode- leave the buds on, maybe top a few down to split growth if you like- but the more you remove ,the less will come back later.

The second time that plant buds in the fall- the buds will be more compact, more resinous, and have crystals dusted everywhere. Let her rip girl you stumbled on an old trick of the outdoor trade. bud a plant twice, the second time around is knarlier.

I thought your plant had progressed rather nicely myself, though it does look predominatly sativa, if you like the high, and wish to regenerate the strain there may be some polen appearing soon, when they regenerate sometimes they think they are dying, and give a few random pollen sacks. collect them pods for when she buds again.

No ,males usually show colors regardless of light hours at 2- to 3 months old.
by five to six months it is very unlikly it is a male, the other plant you mention just did not put out spring bud, it may bud later than the other one too, but it's probly a female, probly bud in sept oct like you figure.ive been an out door grower for 10 yrs and have had plants yealding 3 and 4 pounds
cut off the buds smoke it and wait til next year youl have a bumper
crop
and if you want a few more just clone it when it gets into vegative grouth again

[tiedye0420]

Hey Med. L.O.L.
Well for one that is breeder steve's job, not mine im just a med grower, and mainly for my head stash. She is leery of getting anything sent in from a seedbank. And im very leery of anything with a customs slip attached.
Most outdoor growers are used to the fact, your gonna need a growing season to get a harvest.

She was contemplating making her own seeds, not sure if she saved some pollen from a male or not, but if she makes her own seeds from those plants, next year they will do much better, because they will be adapted better to the climate.
If the high is good, the yield will improve with acclimatization.

[tiedye0420]

This plant seems to be a waste of time if you ask me. But who the hell asked me??? They do look nice, but 90 days is all you should need to produce a good plant. I would reccomend getting some beter seedstock for you.


Tie, Geck, Mean? How can we get this gal directed to some seedstock?
Egypt is a little out of my range. Can a medical patient send her some? Can she order from a seed bank?
Actually i was thinking that her plants look nicer than mine, the ones i started about the same time.Mine got reverted and stunted and suffocated though.And now are moms, or they are going out to pasture (meaning I have selected a new mom from A healthy cutting- so i'll let it bud naturally outside)
Im thinking she would be better off procuring foxfarm products, like ocean forest, and marine cuisine.

Im starting to believe that you will never know a strains potential, until you stick it in some ocean forest.

[thrawn]

Does egypt have medical growers?