legal question "hearsay"

[ezyrider50]

Okay this question is about hearsay. If you have a a good trustworthy friend but you don't want to show them your grow room because of that fact that any information about the groowroom could be used against you. Could you just tell them why if you think they would understand your situation that you just don't show anyone that type of thing. my question is could someone who you thought was trustworthy eventually get you in court by telling LEO specific information about where it is located. OR do they have to have hard evidence and present facts such as how many plants you have and so on and such.
also what about someone who lives with you. Would they have a better chance of busting you because they live with you???

[Pawy]

Its simple trust no one......

Its allways tempting to show off your pride and joy but it just isnt worth it..

Post a few pictures here if you want to show it off...

But yes your friends can or will say something to police.... Drugs have different laws depending on the country, But it doesnt take much to get a search warrant for drugs these days...

Pawy

[ezyrider50]

true, i was just wondering what was permissable in court. It's just i might live with my friend or my girlfriend. but i think i'll just get my own place.

[rangerdanger]

If you only tell you're friend your growing, that's usually not enough evidence to get a search warrant; if he's SEEN your garden and is willing to testify to it in court, you're sunk.
Witnessing a crime (seeing your grow) in not hearsay. He tips off the cops, they get a warrant, he testifies in court he saw it.

P.S. most grow busts, in fact most arrests, are the result of someone seeing and telling.
Even if the guys a friend, he may get busted for whatever and decides to drop a dime on you to save his own self.
Lovers/spouses who become ex-lovers/spouses are also a clear danger.

[ezyrider50]

hey thanks guys, that answered some of my questions

[geckopelli]

"if he's SEEN your garden and is willing to testify to it in court, you're sunk.
Witnessing a crime (seeing your grow) in not hearsay. He tips off the cops, they get a warrant, he testifies in court he saw it."

"Witnessing a crime (seeing your grow) in not hearsay"- this is correct, the rest is NOT THAT SIMPLE.

If I see your grow room, the pigs MAY get a warrant on MY word, because I'm a known associate with a long arrest record for drugs. In other words, the court is likely to view me as knowledgable and reliable- an "expert" witness.

However, most people have no "creditials" and a warrant cannot be issued on the word of a "laymen" alone.

It's a little sticky. if I were you, I'd be more worried about getting ripped off.

" most grow busts, ..., are the result of someone seeing and telling.
Even if the guys a friend, he may get busted for whatever and decides to drop a dime on you to save his own self.
Lovers/spouses who become ex-lovers/spouses are also a clear danger."

This is correct, BUT, you should add< "and then the pigs come to the door and ask too search and the idiot grower lets them".

I've been ratted a few times- but only when the guy was actually a cop did it matter much.

[ssj3gotenks]

It is my impression that in the US warrants are only used when one is either growing, selling, or possessing massive quantites (over a pound) within their home. but if you have an eighth at your house i wouldn't count on it.
despite the fact that their are search warrants for homes in our country, your home is where you are entitled to the most privacy.

[geckopelli]

Once more, a forigner repeats nonesense about the US. A warrant for quanities but not eights? You must live in a facist country, indeed!

here, we have the incomparable 4th and 5th amendments (not to mention the 1st).

The US is the most difficult country in the world in which to obtain a warrant to search a private residence.

[brandonveg]

Somebody was talking about spouses who become ex spouses will rat you out......if you are married a spouse cant be forced to testify....also hearsay is a out of court statement made in court to establish the fact of the matter.........if you just tell your friend then that testimony should be considered hearsay and be stricken from the record.

[LAB RAT]

Yes Geckopelli but I inderstand the US is ONE of the easiest countries in the world to have your phone tapped.
Also read about LINCON breach of civil liberty.
He used AMERICAN SOLDIERS to search CIVILIAN HOUSES & intered pollitical opponents
NOW THATS WHAT I CALL FREEDOM
YOUR GOVERNMENT WILL BREACH YOUR LIBERTY
WHEN IT SEES FIT TO DO SO

[geckopelli]

"Yes Geckopelli but I inderstand the US is ONE of the easiest countries in the world to have your phone tapped."

That's propaganda- a flat lie. Perhaps you should study a subject a little before you expound so all-knowingly about it. Indeed, IT IS THE MOST DIFFICULT.

"Also read about LINCON breach of civil liberty.
He used AMERICAN SOLDIERS to search CIVILIAN HOUSES & intered pollitical opponents
NOW THATS WHAT I CALL FREEDOM
YOUR GOVERNMENT WILL BREACH YOUR LIBERTY
WHEN IT SEES FIT TO DO SO"

And that's all history. About one hundred and fifty years ago. What was your gov doing then?
Look at your own history before you throw stones.

The US evolves- it's made that way.

Our gov fucks us- we have legal recourse. You, on the other hand, don't.

The US is far and away the closest thing on this planet to a free country- and all the jealouy inspired propaganda in the world won't change that.
Deal with it.

[LAB RAT]

Hold on I think I hear a ticker tape parade march'in bye
p.s In our country we count all the votes & HER MAJESTY can dismiss her gov
instantly you on the other hand have to wait till the term of office is over, what kind of re-course is that.
HERE WE HAVE CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE THAT (ACID ROTS THE BRAIN)

[geckopelli]

"HER MAJESTY can dismiss her gov"

HER GOVERNMENT?!?!??

over here, it's OUR government!

a tyrant (albeit benevolent) who rules by birth right- do you really think she's better than you?

[LAB RAT]

Of course I do thats why I took her shilling & served in her Army

[geckopelli]

Of course I do thats why I took her shilling & served in her Army
And that says it all!

[LAB RAT]

Explain to me a benevolent tyrant.(real lack of education here)
The Queen is politically impartial but has the right to dissmiss her goverment
at our say so.
This is true Democratic freedom
Not Democracy (Texas Oil Barron Style)
Where the rich come first
Wake up & smell the coffee a high school education awaits you if you want one

[geckopelli]

Whatever-
a queen who rules by birth right- because she's better than you- personifies democracy. Sure thing.

You're arrogance is exceded only by your ignorance. (Frightening, really.)

Face it- your queen and HER gov are just a couple more of Bush's Bitches.
They'll continue to do has they're told, and they'll like it.

P.S. Don't send me anymore pm's - I'll never buy in to your slave mentality.
No one is better than me; certainly not a leach that lives on welfare- even if some smuck(s) calls her "queen".

[rangerdanger]

Oh boy, a war where I am not involved.

I'm just gonna sit over here -------------------------------------------->x
and let you 2 duke it out whilst I smoke a joint as big as a horse's leg.

[WeeDMaN]

#1 America isnt perfect, and will someday if not soon fall.
#2 neither is scotland
#3 neither is any of us in any country

yall start bitchin about eachothers countrys when you both live in iraq and lebanon.

[WeeDMaN]

"HER MAJESTY can dismiss her gov"

HER GOVERNMENT?!?!??

over here, it's OUR government!

a tyrant (albeit benevolent) who rules by birth right- do you really think she's better than you? She may not be better then him, but she decides what happens to his country so he respects her.

Not to mention G . W Bush really cares about YOUR opinion....ya.

[WeeDMaN]

HERE WE HAVE CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE THAT (ACID ROTS THE BRAIN)
sry for so many posts but I forgot to mention that this is correct, its why Hunter S Thompson Killed himself, and its why my moms cuzin killed himself, and probably why most Long time lsd users kill themselves. But I dont know what thats gotta do with this conversation.

[LAB RAT]

Weedman Your right Scotland Is not perfect nor have I ever claimed it to be.
P.s Here's my ACTIVE SERVICE RECORD
NORTHERN IRELAND 89-90
PERSIAN GULF 90-91
NOTHERN IRELAND 92
BOSNIA 93

I HAVE WALKED THAT MILE IN ANOTHER MANS SHOES
AND I HAVE THE GONGS TO PROVE IT

[WeeDMaN]

Weedman Your right Scotland Is not perfect nor have I ever claimed it to be.
P.s Here's my ACTIVE SERVICE RECORD
NORTHERN IRELAND 89-90
PERSIAN GULF 90-91
NOTHERN IRELAND 92
BOSNIA 93

I HAVE WALKED THAT MILE IN ANOTHER MANS SHOES
AND I HAVE THE GONGS TO PROVE IT hey my dad was in the GERMAN Army a little erlier than those years. Fought in that war in 1981 or something like that I think he doesnt like to talk about it.

Oh ya and I wasnt taking any sides in this conversation either lol.

[geckopelli]

weedman,

This is the first time I remember you being a dumbass.

All I did was correct the propaganistic lies labrat was preaching.

Only a fool thinks thier country is perfect; and I am many things, but a fool is not one of them.

All gov sucks- the US just sucks less.

anarchy is the way.

so take your head out of your ass and read the words as they are written, and leave your mis-interpretation at home.

[LAB RAT]

Only one PROPAGANDA MINISTER on this forum
& if your not a fool you do a good IMPERSONATION OF ONE
You don't even remember who started this

[meangreen]

Keep the subject guys,this thread has little to do with whose country is better or worse for whatever reasons.Peace

[LAB RAT]

Peace

[WeeDMaN]

weedman,

This is the first time I remember you being a dumbass.

All I did was correct the propaganistic lies labrat was preaching.

Only a fool thinks thier country is perfect; and I am many things, but a fool is not one of them.

All gov sucks- the US just sucks less.

anarchy is the way.

so take your head out of your ass and read the words as they are written, and leave your mis-interpretation at home.
haahah I never said anything about sides, so quit bein an asshole. I surely wasnt tryin to be one to you.

[ezyrider50]

what is meant by if you are married you spouse can't be forced to testify against you? Is that is your married and lets say someoene finds out your growing they could take you and your wife in but your wife wouldn't have to testify in court? That is if your both in on it? So technically you could tell your wife who is "ok" with the growing just not to testify or talk with police until she has a lawyer or do you think the juctice system would try to make only one case instead of pin you against your wife?

[Erasmus70]

How is Geckopelli so familiar with the Laws on Warrants in 'other countries'?
There are 200+ other countries and why he seems to think the USA has a corner on personal liberties I have no idea - oh wait... from watching TV shows while he is stoned?
No, Scotland is not perfect but why anyone thinks you can just enter a mans house without a warrant over there is beyond me.
Last I checked the USA got all their stuff from the UK to start with.

[geckopelli]

In the past, I have been involved in international smuggling.

that's how.

[LAB RAT]

hehe

[Erasmus70]

In the past, I have been involved in international smuggling.
that's how.
Were you a Pirate?
Serious Question.

[geckopelli]

No. Not in the traditional sense anyway.
I'm no thief.

[Erasmus70]

Would you say that stashing some (substance) in your car or boat while you were boating/driving really makes one an international drug smuggler.
I mean, technically it would.
We used to smuggle all kinds of stuff across the border like fireworks, booze, weed and cigarettes, clothing whatever.

I mean.. am I really an 'International Smuggler' in the sense of some sort of real qualified titleholder?

Id also ask if it really is or is not stealing when you do these things.
Your not paying taxes.
Thats stealing from your community isnt it?

[geckopelli]

Taxes are for schmucks.
I don't pay somebody to tell me what to do. I GET paid if I have to follow orders.
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Technically bringing a joint across the border is international drug smuggling...

but I think that riding a few thousand pounds of contraband by custom is closer to the commonly accepted meaning. Or maybe a ki or two- depends.

[Erasmus70]

Taxes are for schmucks.
I don't pay somebody to tell me what to do. I GET paid if I have to follow orders.
So you are an admitted thief in the sense you are intending to (and have) taken money that was due (and required by) your community?
Fair enough.



but I think that riding a few thousand pounds of contraband by custom is closer to the commonly accepted meaning. Or maybe a ki or two- depends
Do you regret helping drug addicts destroy themselves (at least faster and with greater ease) thanks to your contribution to problem?

Serious question.. would like to know your feelings on what you did?

[geckopelli]

Can you read?

Putting words in my mouth doesn't work- and not for lack of trying!

I'm no thief. I don't buy into your slave mentality.
I'm not part of the herd-er, ah,- "community". It gives me nothing and I owe it nothing. Indeed, being forced to pay taxes, "or else", is extortion.
That would make your cumminity a collective thief.

"Laws are made by the rich to protect thier money"

Rational Anarchy is the way.
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for the rest-
On each of us our resposibilities lie...
"I'm not my Brothers Keeper..."
(Are you a communist or a nazi? or perhaps a fundie? serious question.)

I don't judge the actions of others. Be it choice or idiocy, I don't care if some moron can't handle thier dope.

I believe in Freedom. The only "free community" is the underground.
That makes me an Independent- or an outlaw by standards of the herd.

Everyone has the right to choose thier own road to Hell.

[Erasmus70]

Can you read?
Yes.

Putting words in my mouth doesn't work- and not for lack of trying!
No, but words from your mouth can implicitly state something else too.

I'm no thief. I don't buy into your slave mentality.
I dont have a slave mentality. Im opposed to slavery.


I'm not part of the herd-er, ah,- "community". It gives me nothing and I owe it nothing. Indeed, being forced to pay taxes, "or else", is extortion.
That would make your cumminity a collective thief.
Yet you freely use the community property and benefit from it too.
Are you meaning to tell me that you drive on their roadways?
You enjoy the direct benefit their traffic lights give you too I bet?

So you may not be a 'Thief' but you are definately a freeloader. And really that is 'thieving' isnt it because you even know that a bill is expected for you to pay before taking up that roadway space.

"Laws are made by the rich to protect thier money"
And you. If not there would be nothing stopping a gang from easily taking all your stuff.
You would be stealing police resources (which you did not pay for) if you called 911.
Something which you refuse to pay into.

Rational Anarchy is the way.
Ok.

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for the rest-
On each of us our resposibilities lie...
"I'm not my Brothers Keeper..."

That seems to be clear. You wont even chip in to pay for protections that your brother AND you yourself would share.

(Are you a communist or a nazi? or perhaps a fundie? serious question.)
None of the above. Not even close and actually a bit to the opposite of all three of those ideas.


I don't judge the actions of others. Be it choice or idiocy, I don't care if some moron can't handle thier dope.

The key words there are 'I don't care'.
I appreciate you are, at the very least, Honest.

Well.. in a sense I suppose you care since the moron who cant handle his dope is simply more business and cash in your pocket.


I believe in Freedom. The only "free community" is the underground.
That makes me an Independent- or an outlaw by standards of the herd.

It is the underground that survives off of the benefits (and counts on) the benefits of what the Herd produces.
Otherwise it would not be an 'underground' and have nothing to harvest in the first place.


Everyone has the right to choose thier own road to Hell.

Well if you have decided to go to Hell in the first place then congrats on taking the Express Lane from A to B.
Hope 20 or 30 more Summers of 'Getting stuff' is worth it all in the end?

[geckopelli]

"Yes.
No, but words from your mouth can implicitly state something else too."

non-sequitor
-----------------------
"I dont have a slave mentality. Im opposed to slavery."

yet you do as your told and justify it as "right"...
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"Yet you freely use the community property and benefit from it too.
Are you meaning to tell me that you drive on their roadways?
You enjoy the direct benefit their traffic lights give you too I bet?

So you may not be a 'Thief' but you are definately a freeloader. And really that is 'thieving' isnt it because you even know that a bill is expected for you to pay before taking up that roadway space."

I was never asked- and in any case, all the land has been confiscated by your community, leaving me no choice. Must I pay to leave my house?

And why not tolls- why should I pay for the highway I don't use?

No- you can't force a service I don't want down my throat and call me a freeloader for not liking it- and then penalize me by denying me access to freedom of movement.

Or perhaps you're a facist?
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"And you. If not there would be nothing stopping a gang from easily taking all your stuff.
You would be stealing police resources (which you did not pay for) if you called 911.
Something which you refuse to pay into."

To quote Bugs Bunny, "He don't know me very well, do he?"

I've no need for the cops, and yes, there is something to stop a gang from taking everything I have.
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"That seems to be clear. You wont even chip in to pay for protections that your brother AND you yourself would share."

I'd not cause my brothers and sisters (be they blood or other) to pay for my help, aid, or protection. Nor would I offer payment when I was in need.

I would simply render or recieve aid as needed. Quid pro quo.
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"The key words there are 'I don't care'.
I appreciate you are, at the very least, Honest."

Than return the favor- admit you don't care about individual freedom of choice.
And what of the golden rule?
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"Well.. in a sense I suppose you care since the moron who cant handle his dope is simply more business and cash in your pocket."

I don't accept your big brother menality. I care deeply for that morons basic right to live as he sees fit- within the confines of the golden rule.
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"It is the underground that survives off of the benefits (and counts on) the benefits of what the Herd produces.
Otherwise it would not be an 'underground' and have nothing to harvest in the first place."

Do you believe we should all strive for the mean average... you're sounding like a communist again.

And what about the "over class" that owns, dictates, benifits, and produecs naught?
Let them treat the rest of us.

"Well if you have decided to go to Hell in the first place then congrats on taking the Express Lane from A to B.
Hope 20 or 30 more Summers of 'Getting stuff' is worth it all in the end?"

So, you are a fundie after all.
And I am not in the slightest bit materialistic.

Your beliefs blind you from the truth. Your dogma is destroying the World.

Personal Responsibility is my phiolosophy, blind obedience yours.

[Erasmus70]

So do you put your children in Public School too?

I have no doubt that a gang of well armed thugs banging down your door would have you phoning 911 in a hurry.
I can hear the conversation now: "Hey.. I didnt ask for 911 emergency service but... since I need it now.. its your problem you exist.. PS.. I dont need anything from anyone because Im a free man and nobody tells me.. BAM BAM BAM.. (dial tone).

What if I beat the hell out of you for walking on my Public Sidewalk me and the other 'Slaves' built?
Yes.. we ARE keeping you from moving freely on our property.
How about that?

PS.. can I have your address so I can send this information to my slave bosses in the IRS?
No.
Thought not.

[LuMpYtRiChOmEy]

So whoever pays the most taxes is the bigest turd then rite?

[geckopelli]

"So do you put your children in Public School too?"

It's compulsory.
You nazis would lock me up if I didn't.

Even so-

they, too, screw your facist system.
My daughter is a straight A student who only occassionally attends school.

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"I have no doubt that a gang of well armed thugs banging down your door would have you phoning 911 in a hurry.
I can hear the conversation now: "Hey.. I didnt ask for 911 emergency service but... since I need it now.. its your problem you exist.. PS.. I dont need anything from anyone because Im a free man and nobody tells me.. BAM BAM BAM.. (dial tone)."

More realalistic scenario:

ME: "get the fuck out of here!"
BANG! BANG! RAT_TAT_TAT_TAT_TAT!
My kid: "Damn it dad, another mess!"
Me: "shut-up and get the shovel!"
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"What if I beat the hell out of you for walking on my Public Sidewalk me and the other 'Slaves' built?
Yes.. we ARE keeping you from moving freely on our property.
How about that?"

you mean, "what if I TRIED to beat the hell out of you..."

It's been tried!

BANG!

and what if I blew-up your sidewalk?
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"PS.. can I have your address so I can send this information to my slave bosses in the IRS?
No.
Thought not"

I've been audited twice-

And I won both times!
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No, it ain't gonna work!

Your a non-thinking sychophant.

Do you have a picture of Bush, Jesus, Hitler, or all three hanging on your wall?

who thinks for you?

[geckopelli]

So whoever pays the most taxes is the bigest turd then rite?
Ask any American Corporation!

[LuMpYtRiChOmEy]

You aint kiddin Geck! Some Folks just like to remain ignorant. Sooner or later the stench they ooze is gonna work its way around their blinders. We shure do need to free the Herb Bruddas! It would set the solution in motion! Go ahead and ask me how Erasmus! :) -Heh heh..

[Erasmus70]

Well I think the original question was answered and basically your answer is that you refuse to pay into social programs but you will use them anyways.
You do not care and have no regrets.
Alongside that, you do not care what people do (or not do) with the product you sell them.

Well at least you admit it, so thats all I can ask for.

[geckopelli]

I admit none of your bullshit, Mr. fundie.

However, it seems you admit that you are willing to force your viewpoint by violence;
you lose, sucker!

this is a hippy site- the exact opposite of authoritarian.com!

Peace- even for you!

screw the system!

Jesus was a 'shroom head!

Rational Anarchy is the way!

[Erasmus70]

Actually you did admit it.
Rather forcefully and clearly too.
Then again, you seemed to contradict (only by insinuation) your claims you dont pay taxes by claiming you 'won' with the IRS on several Audits.
Although its possibly you escaped punishment by lying or some sort of sneakiness.
Or
You actualy DID pay your taxes after all?

Either way, you must feel like quite a little punk sometimes.
You get by, by taking from the system (using it) but then abiding by it whenever you want to avoid penalties.

How often do you think of blowing up the peoples sidewalks?
Alot?
Just at times when you feel frustrated or small inside?
Or just when you are self-medicating yourself with drugs to escape reality?

Just curious?

[geckopelli]

Listen up, oh mighty servent of many bosses:

I pay extortion- er, taxes- when I must, to avoid jail. Gety it?

Your an ass and a hypocrite- you offer violence, I merely defend.

But then again, you jesusfreaks are responsible for unlimited atrocities throughout history.

rise above it all, my child....

freedom is the way.

not blind obedience and dogmatic thinking.

if this was 1860, you'd defend slavery.
if it was 1900, you'd be with the candle makers suing Edison for inventing the light bulb...

Take your head out of the sand, mr bush.
Social evolution will occur despite your warped desire to keep others down.

Perhaps you'd consider doing society a great service:
you're a social dinosaur, so why not go the way of the dinosaur?
Make room- yesterday has gone away!
Tomorrow is at hand!

[2cesarewild]

Man I wouldn't normally want to get involved in a war like this, but jesus there are some stupid fucking comments being made here, and I have to say that geck is pretty much right on with everything he's said.

Fuck the taxes I pay, I get jack shit back, and I fucking scrounge to get by, only to have pigs steal my car and tons of possessions for expanding my consciousness. Social services, yea.. Police? Dude I don't feel safe when police are around, I feel scared, they're all corrupt. Once upon a time I got arrested and charged with poss of mj and poss of rolls wiht intent to distribute. So, a cop who wasn't there at all is the one who writes the complaint to the court. Officer dipshit made sure to write down "cocaine" instead of "mdma," now I've got a distribution of cocaine on my record that I need to go through the BS of straightening out. I pay these people's salaries, to be fucking morons, fucking lovely. How about Roads? Well I don't live in the upper class part of town, there are potholes up and down my street, as well as many others in my area. Or how about social security? I'll be dam fucking far away in another country by the time I can collect, and besides, it'll probably be LONG GONE by the time I can even tap into all that money I lost helping the rich get richer over the years. How about war? I don't gain anything from barrels of oil, or the blood of soldiers... and you wanna talk shit to someone because he has beef with taxes? Fuck you, and fuck my 'community' of junkies, nationalist pigs, and mindless drones.


On a side note Lab Rat: Here you have proven to us that no matter how many more hits of acid I'm gonna drop in my life, or how many many geck's dropped, OR HOW MANY FUCKIN HITS ANYBODY DROPS, you'll still be as stupid as a broken pair of scissors, and as brainwashed as pavlov's dogs. weedman: If you think HST killed himself because "acid rotted his brain," you have never read any of his work, or should I say, actually understood any of his work. The man was in a state of despair for lots of reasons, most of which you can't even fathom.

[Erasmus70]

[QUOTE=geckopelli]
I pay extortion- er, taxes- when I must, to avoid jail. Gety it?

.....Social evolution will occur despite your warped desire to keep others down.
QUOTE]

So you do pay taxes.
Well then thats not so bad is it. You contribute to the thing which benefit you like education, roads and soldiers who stop real dictators from taking over.
But hey.. you could move to Nigeria and see how you like it.
Probably not even pay taxes at all!
You could just beat up and shoot armies who come at you.

Im not clear on what 'Social Evolution' you expect considering you want to act like you are opposed to socialism in all forms.
Is there some Social policy you DO agree with?
What is this social program coming my way?

Did you get beat up a lot in School?
Sure sounds like it?

Are you some sort of Scientis.. lmfao.. sorry I couldnt even type it out lol!

[geckopelli]

I'm a capitalist!!!!!

you pussy!!!!!

[Erasmus70]

Did you get beat up or just bullied by other kids alot?
Dont get me wrong, Im not condoning or excusing bullies at all.
Just wondering what they did to you.
Just general shoving and that sort of thing or actually pummeling you into lockers?

Was it because you were chubby?

[geckopelli]

you're projecting.

I was the coolest kid in school, child.

The bullies got out of the hall when I came around the corner...

now go and do as you're told, drone!

[Erasmus70]

you're projecting.
I was the coolest kid in school, child.
The bullies got out of the hall when I came around the corner...
now go and do as you're told, drone!
You seem very interested in the idea of making people do your will.
Controlling others to your benefit.
Even having supreme physical control over their bodies.

This is some sort of american 'gay dominance' issue right?
Or is it just delusions of Grandeur.
I bet on the latter.
Classic case actualy.

Hey, why not post some pictures of yourself.
Would you do that please?
Id like to see how cool you are and how your face would show such confidence in the knowledge that people do what YOU want (if you wanted to use your power that is).

If not a current photo - please post a highschool photo?

[geckopelli]

You're a flamer... (are you a flaming Q... ?)... and a hypocrite.

and you harbor and anti-american predjudice! caused by an inferiority complex, no doubt!

so grease up and ride this one for awhile!

I got no use for society-
It’s got no use for me.
Can’t live my life in chains you see;
The only way to live is free.

Don’t tell me what to do
I don’t care about your rules
I rather live my life alone
Than be another worker drone

I go with what I got
I sleep around a lot
And smoke a lot of pot
It helps avoid the rot

I got no use for society-
It’s got no use for me.
Can’t live my life in chains you see;
The only way to live is free.

I don’t care what you would do
I’m not a brain dead fool
My life you see belongs to me
I’m more than just a tool

I got no use for society-
It’s got no use for me.
Can’t live my life in chains you see;
The only way to live is free.


get it, zombie?

[Erasmus70]

Great Song.
Is it true that you are making up 'antiamerican' attibutes about me in hopes to encourage others to come help you now?

Isnt it true that you have repeatedly disassociated yourself with the USA and have in fact denounced its policy, government and insist that you are not part of it?

If I am a flaming queen does that mean I am the 'bottom' homosexual as opposed to you being the 'Top' homosexual or 'Husband'?
Does that make you feel strong and good?

Howis it that you do not contribute to society by working and yet have an income or way to feed yourself and buy guns?
Is it because you sell drugs you grow in your basement?

[LuMpYtRiChOmEy]

Gecko would you please wipe your ignorasmus? You must have left it out and its leakin all over the forrums. :D