drugs are a dead end. [Archive]

Psychedelic94

08-26-2005, 05:38 AM

Drugs like heroin and coke and weed and other addictive drugs are a dead end but not drugs like LSD. LSD is fucking awesome. It's the greatest experience I've ever had with drugs. Acid is an escape from reality, and in a world and society such as this one, that's a good thing once in a while. It's beautiful, amazing, powerful, and have you tried it? to say such things you better have.

stranger

08-26-2005, 05:42 AM

ehh idk, i understand why some people still seek out drugs. specific memories of watching someone sell ecstasy when i used to do drugs come to mind, just observing all those people seeking out that chemical induced place. theyve been raised in a spiritless soul-dead communities more than likely where they are taught that life is a series of bullshitty mundane boring events, compromises of un-natural working and school just to 'survive' and be 'accepted' which is an idea almost nobody is taught to question in this world. some people genuinely find things and learn from drugs, and some dont.

those who do learn things tend to leave drugs for the most part i think because they realize their spirit is always alive and as intense as its ever been inside them. theres many ways to get to this place inside ourselves, drugs being one of them. the easiest one and i think its necesary many americans do try drugs to open their minds, but it comes to a point where you start to progress to other ways of finding that place in a more true and healthy fashion that is more in tune with yourself and the flow that resides within us all. i.e nature, meditating, fasting, chanting, drumming, dancing etc etc....

mushie18

08-26-2005, 07:16 AM

use, don't abuse...

makno

08-26-2005, 07:17 AM

use, don't abuse...because death means an end to all those lovly drugs ....

Blind_Melon_Chitlin'

08-26-2005, 07:33 AM

Drugs are a dead end. Drugs have become a virtual god for many people. Those same people are ruining their bodies and minds. See why I think this way. See my site. Get a clue.
I think alot of peoples minds are poisioned by religion but thats just me.

TheLizardKingMike

08-26-2005, 07:58 AM

It's not just you Chitlin, I do too.

psychedelic toker

08-26-2005, 08:07 AM

"We wouldn't be here if it weren't for psychedelic drugs. In terms of the role of psilocybin in human evolution on the grasslands of Africa, people not on drugs were behind the curve. The fact is that, in terms of human evolution, people not on psychedelics are not fully human. They've fallen to a lower state, where they're easily programmed, boundary defined, obsessed by sexual possessiveness which is transferred into fetishism and object obsession. We don't want too many citizens asking where the power and the money really goes. Informed by psychedelics, people might stop saluting. "Take your political party, your job, whatever, and shove it.""
Terence McKenna

DRUGS ARE OF WHAT THE CHOOSER CHOOSE'S THEM TO BE EITER ENLIGHTENMENT OR RECKONIN' THEY CHOOSE THEIR OWN PATH

-ALSO I BELEIVE THERE IS A TIME AND PLACE FOR EVERYTHING

Aerosolhalos

08-26-2005, 08:25 AM

I have no use for them. Being insane is great.
But yeah, I went through that period wherein I was delusional enough to think drugs offered spiritual enlightenment or experience or whatever. All I ended up with was a lot of depression and bad nerves.
I have nothing against them, it just so happens that whenever I want to hang out with anyone.. drugs are sorta all that happens. It makes people boring because they get so preoccupied with it and it just seems to drag down a lot of potentially interesting social encounters.. I feel the same way about sex really.
Oh, and I can't stand it when people smoke weed around me.. particularly when they try to hotbox a car I'm in.. the smell literally turns my stomach.

Aerosolhalos

08-26-2005, 08:30 AM

I think alot of peoples minds are poisioned by religion but thats just me. Yeah, I know.. every kid is going to say that. I said that too. It's like out of a handbook where you think of a zinger to silence the squares who can't figure out society is just a big put on. Yeah sure mainstream religion sucks and is the cause of a lot of evil and pain.. but if you think the whole drug subculture thing isn't just as dogmatic you're really kidding yourself.

PLyTheMan

08-26-2005, 09:00 AM

Drugs/Religion are what you make of them. Hell, religion can be like a drug, just like a drug can be like a religion.

To each their own, I say. Take all things in moderation and just be careful. Most drugs you should have an understanding and respect for not only the drugs but yourself. Using any drug as a medicine or escape is dangerous behavior (unless the drug have physical medicinal values, I'm talking about psychiatric and emotional problems).

A drug is a tool, when used properly some amazing things can come from it, but on the other hand, when used wrong it can lead to damage, both physical and emotional. Religion too can be a tool to either enlighten yourself or to hold yourself back.

tumbledownDNA

08-26-2005, 09:13 AM

im not gonna copy it but tha last three posts and stranger's post were awesome... i really agree about the drug subculture it becomes like any group that first forms against the grain - dogmatic, another religion... all the highschool kids i know are still caught up in that shit, sit around and talk about drugs waste all their money on hard shit ... ach it sucks. i must say, it took a drug to make me realize that which is why i stick to psychedelics and pot, which im cutting back on (i am on a bit of mescaline at the moment). but i see now that methods such as meditation and yoga can get me just as high in the morning as a bowl without passing out in the afternoon. the drug scene has its place but when that becomes the focus as opposed to the actual experience of the drug, it can't be used as a tool. there's no progress, and it becomes another form of being "accepted"

2cesarewild

08-26-2005, 05:36 PM

Dan67, preaching to us is a dead end.

tumbledownDNA

08-26-2005, 06:22 PM

True That

peacelovebarefeet

08-27-2005, 12:47 AM

moderation is key.

millownotme

08-31-2005, 05:23 AM

LSD is the key to THEDOOR.

Shampoo

08-31-2005, 08:00 AM

i agree blind melon..

& dan..i was being sarcastic..i use drugs..in fact im stoned right now!!

pith30

09-01-2005, 08:11 PM

All things in moderation and you will have no problem.
Pith

GanjaPrince

09-01-2005, 09:59 PM

Sex, DRUGS and music...
give life meaning

Comedy...
Keeps you from going insane

TV and movies...
fill in the time

Pain...
doesn't last forever

Spirituality and religion...
give you something to think about and experience, or fight about and believe in, or whatever your trip is

Death...
You come back again, and repeat the same process, or escape into advanced levels of being that no human mind can understand, yay for quantum physics.

Science...
is why the rich can live so comfortably.

And it comes back to drugs, one of life's treasures or curses, depending on your hand, but remember, you can fold.
So why not partake in them, they are here for us! It's worth the risk if you have a good hand.

soaringeagle

09-01-2005, 10:07 PM

christianity is the real dead end, you spend your life worrying about what might come after instead of enjoying the time you have
here & now is all you have
enjoy it, & stop worrying about where you'll go after your dead, cause you may just find you go nowhere & wasted the precius gift of life..get high & celebrate living

Starburst

09-01-2005, 10:46 PM

Drugs arent bad if you are smart about them. PLus if you think about it and do some research many religions started with them. specially mushrooms(with the incas and mayas..etc) and such things as ergot( with the greek) and those were olld as civilizations with very strong values and great kknowledge.

nesta

09-01-2005, 10:50 PM

ergot, as far as i know, was never intentionally used by itself for any drug-related purpose. it contains many other, VERY dangerous chemicals which can cause VERY serious side effects. ergotism is a particularly nasty example.

however, it was attributed to witchcraft i believe. if ergot grew on people's grains and they in turn made bread with these grains, it would have been possible for an entire community to be stricken with the very nasty effects of ergot. people didn't understand drugs at all back then, and if an entire community all of a sudden gets a strange and random disease, along with some drug-like effects, it would have been blamed on witches.

the greeks were much more keen on opium and wine, i think.

deadonceagain

09-01-2005, 11:06 PM

the greeks were much more keen on opium and wine, i think.greek are very keen on there wine,so many drugs have played a part in the growth of the human mind,scoeity,religion,and the fact that drug execst with out the help of mankinds creation i think opens the question why are they here at all...,it just so happens that these chemicals in plants have effects on the body and mind that can have a positive value(i think even negative experiances teach us things and can be positive,by showing us something new or something we didnt know)

timeoutofmind

09-05-2005, 04:29 AM

drugs are the road to nowhere, but at least its the scenic route

i saw that on a button or some shit before i dont agree with it but i thought it was funny.

Grapefruity

09-05-2005, 06:14 AM

Drugs are a dead end for me, i agree.

Why do i still do em? Desperate of time I am, I hunt for paradise and never find it.

But now with age I guess Im little by little, learning to use them without fucking me up.

dangermoose

09-05-2005, 06:16 AM

drugs are only a dead end if you're trying to use them as a solution as opposed to a means of reaching asolution

mellow

09-05-2005, 06:31 AM

moderation is key.
yep, you know it

Amanda's Shadow

09-05-2005, 06:35 AM

mellow

09-05-2005, 06:40 AM

^^^and weed isnt addictive (physically speaking)

Barbuchon

09-08-2005, 02:20 PM

Life is a dead end.
That was exactly what I was going to say.

2cesarewild

09-08-2005, 08:53 PM

lsd is worse than weed
Worse in what sense?

jojoeyes

09-10-2005, 11:02 PM

drugs are awesome

MamaTheLama

09-10-2005, 11:19 PM

LSD is the key to THEDOOR.
Ah, but DMT is the battering ram that smashes the door into a million little fragments ;)

LightGreen

09-12-2005, 09:56 AM

Some People have an addictive nature and others dont, LSD is always there and it was once said that you can get higher without drugs than with them, but i dont believe that and neither did he. Iva eatin my fair share and theres a far greater sense of learning and exploration than life itself can give you we only live once im sure so make it a grand one and know your limits, find your happy medium.
A.L.

"Buy The Ticket,Take The Ride." H.S. Thompson

whiterasta

09-12-2005, 06:08 PM

Drugs are a dead end. Drugs have become a virtual god for many people. Those same people are ruining their bodies and minds. See why I think this way. See my site. Get a clue.
Tell it to a village Shaman who has cured an illness with a psychoactive plant. This type of "christianity" gives followers of Christ a bad name. People have worshiped false gods since time began. Drugs are one of the lesser "other" Gods compared with false prophecy. That's my clue and I'm stikin' to it
WR

tenaciousjackk

09-30-2005, 04:05 PM

i love drugs

MacFeast

09-30-2005, 06:04 PM

Seeing that Dan67 hasn't replied in a while, me thinks he just wanted to piss us off.

syd

10-04-2005, 10:00 AM

"We wouldn't be here if it weren't for psychedelic drugs. In terms of the role of psilocybin in human evolution on the grasslands of Africa, people not on drugs were behind the curve. The fact is that, in terms of human evolution, people not on psychedelics are not fully human. They've fallen to a lower state, where they're easily programmed, boundary defined, obsessed by sexual possessiveness which is transferred into fetishism and object obsession. We don't want too many citizens asking where the power and the money really goes. Informed by psychedelics, people might stop saluting. "Take your political party, your job, whatever, and shove it.""
Terence McKenna

So this retard is saying the only to be free is to take psychedelics, what a cockhead! Psychedelics are fucking awesome, but thats the stupidest quote i've ever seen

psychedelic toker

10-04-2005, 05:08 PM

POSTED BY SYD:
So this retard is saying the only to be free is to take psychedelics, what a cockhead! Psychedelics are fucking awesome, but thats the stupidest quote i've ever seen

Not really, if you read the quote, sometimes it takes psychedelics to really realize what your prioitys in life are, i mean you can be a drug abuser but, im sorry im gonna be productive when i do psychedelics, when I do them I think about myself, my life and the future...if you think im a cockhead for liking a certain quote, obviously you've learned nothing from your experiances....hey call me a cockhead for this one to...what should care if you don't like my theories on psychedelics, im happy with myself....

-"I think the real test of psychedelics is what you do with them when you're not on them, what kind of culture you build, what kind of art, what kind of technologies... What's lacking in the Western mind is the sense of connectivity and relatedness to the rest of life, the atmosphere, the ecosystem, the past, our children's future. If we were feeling those things we would not be practicing culture as we are."
-Terrence McKenna

Thank you very much syd, saying what you did you read off like a complete fool
-and bearing the name Syd, you should know better anyway....seems like you say stuff and don't even think it through...?thats my opinion

2cesarewild

10-04-2005, 08:58 PM

So this retard is saying the only to be free is to take psychedelics, what a cockhead! Psychedelics are fucking awesome, but thats the stupidest quote i've ever seen
So is this 'retard' (syd) saying that he can't read? Or is he just showing us how 'good' he is at shitty generalizations that don't illustrate the real point? I mean everybody's got an opinion and it's alright for you to not like it, but that's not even where he was going with that. It's not implied anywhere in that post that there is a singular way to be 'free.'

As for Dan67:

First mistake of a programmed man,
is to fear what he doesn't understand.
;-)

TARABELLE

10-04-2005, 09:06 PM

First mistake of a programmed man,
is to fear what he doesn't understand.

Nicely said!

psychedelic toker

10-04-2005, 11:17 PM

So is this 'retard' (syd) saying that he can't read? Or is he just showing us how 'good' he is at shitty generalizations that don't illustrate the real point? I mean everybody's got an opinion and it's alright for you to not like it, but that's not even where he was going with that. It's not implied anywhere in that post that there is a singular way to be 'free.'

As for Dan67:

First mistake of a programmed man,
is to fear what he doesn't understand.
;-)
All very well put

ssj3gotenks

10-04-2005, 11:26 PM

Look man, you going on to hipforums and saying how bad drugs are is like going on a volvo forum website and telling them that driving volvos is a "dead end".
In other words, you set yourself up to critisism.

Other than that i will say that most drugs are great if used responsibly. If you smoke dank mj but don't let it control your life, you shouldn't have problems. Also, opiates are awesome... soooo awesome (excluding heroin with added crap). Doing oxys or hydros without the APAP is a superb experience.

syd

10-05-2005, 10:17 AM

So is this 'retard' (syd) saying that he can't read? Or is he just showing us how 'good' he is at shitty generalizations that don't illustrate the real point? I mean everybody's got an opinion and it's alright for you to not like it, but that's not even where he was going with that. It's not implied anywhere in that post that there is a singular way to be 'free.'

"We wouldn't be here if it weren't for psychedelic drugs"
"people not on psychedelics are not fully human. They've fallen to a lower state"

gunison

10-07-2005, 10:49 PM

Stupid people shouldn't use drugs. If you're a fool going in, you'll be one on the other side too.

ssj3gotenks

10-07-2005, 11:50 PM

youre moms a dead end - ooooooooooooohhh! snap!

syd

10-08-2005, 05:36 AM

Not really, if you read the quote, sometimes it takes psychedelics to really realize what your prioitys in life are, i mean you can be a drug abuser but, im sorry im gonna be productive when i do psychedelics, when I do them I think about myself, my life and the future...if you think im a cockhead for liking a certain quote, obviously you've learned nothing from your experiances....hey call me a cockhead for this one to...what should care if you don't like my theories on psychedelics, im happy with myself....
Thank you very much syd, saying what you did you read off like a complete fool
-and bearing the name Syd, you should know better anyway....seems like you say stuff and don't even think it through...?thats my opinion
Ah dude, i was just in a bad mood, believe me i've thought about it and realised it was stupid what i said.....

AnOriginalName

10-08-2005, 06:12 AM

youre moms a dead end - ooooooooooooohhh! snap!
Hahaha! I think that sums the whole argument up!

whynot

11-02-2005, 06:40 PM

you cant reasonably say that drugs are good or bad just like you cant say with good reason that religeon is good or bad. now think about it everyone that posts one opinion or another has a biased viewpoint on it. how many ppl do you know that are at the moment using drugs and having what they think of as the time of there lives are going to say that drugs are the scourge of the earth obviously theyll probably be pro drug. and most of the antidrug ppl only see the bad side of drugs the look at the ghettos that are ridden with crack addiction and the crime that drugs cause and summ everything up as "drugs are bad". its true that drugs bring on a lot of good times and personal learning experiences but they also are the cause of a lot of suffering. but how can u blame a piece of matter whether it be a pure chemical, a powder or a plant as the cause of all these problems ultimately its the decisions ppl make reguarding there drug use that leads to either there successful happy experiences or there demise. but honestly anything and everything causes suffering and happiness a proffesional boxer can love his job and profit millions of dollars from it but he could also end up with parkinsens disease or various other problems. just like sex sometimes it can be the most wonderful experience youll ever have in your life and at the same time it can become an obsession or you could be raped and hate sex the rest of your life.with every decision and every aspect of life there is a pro and a con and niether should used to condemn or exault anything. now to everyone out there that thinks drugs are great or evil keep in my there not the cause of all the problems surronuding them nor are they the answer to all lifes problems either they just are wat they are, drugs im sorry about all the grammar and spelling mistakes i just hope that i got my point across.

peace

erossnj

11-04-2005, 02:12 PM

yeah i definitely agree. that said...drugs for me aren't a dead end but a beginning to a life thats actually liveable. of course im talking mainly about psychedelics. i've tried just about everything i can get my hands on but after using psychedelics i have no desire to mess with what some would consider 'bad' drugs such as heroin and crack (although i find those fun too).
also i should say that i dont think one should rely solely on drugs to make life 'liveable' as i said. or at least i dont think its necessary that one use drugs for their entire lives to feel the effects of them. again im talking about psychedelics mostly. if i stopped using every drug right now and never touched one again i would be completely content b/c those 'doors' have already been opened for me. once those doors are open you (or at least i) no longer need any help finding the beauty of things. if someone becomes dependent on a drug to get them through the day or their entire life then perhaps yes its a deadend. im not that someone though so i say drugs rock!

peace and love.

oh and your mom is totally a dead end