View Full Version : How To Get Rich Growing Pot
rangerdanger
08-03-2005, 02:52 PM
Here's how to get rich from growing marijuana:
Build 3 chamber's out of plywood, one 8'x 10'x 7' high, one 4'x 6'x 6' high and 1 4'x 4'x 6'.
Put six 600 watt HPS in the large chamber, two 600 watt HPS in the medium chamber, and wall-to-wall flo's in the smallest one.
You'll also need a table top approx 3'x 4', hang four 40-watt flo tubes above the tabletop.
The smallest chamber holds approx. 6 donor ('mother') plants, in 5-gal. containers of soil.
The tabletop is where you root the clones you take off the donor plants.
The medium chamber is where the rooted clones veg for 3 weeks.
And the largest chamber is where the plants veg for 2 months.
Take 80 clones off the donor plants and root them in Oasis cubes.
Once rooted, put them in the medium chamber in two 2' x 4' ebb and flood trays.
After 3 weeks veg, they are ready to go into the flowering chamber. They should be approx. 15" tall by that time.
Choose the 64 best-looking plants and put them in the largest chamber, in four 4'x 4' ebb and flood trays, 2 on either side of a 2' wide aisle in the middle. At week 3 of 12/12, take more clones off the donor plants for the next crop. When the first 84 are done 5 weeks later, you'll have 64 more plants ready to go into flowering.
Every 2 months you'll harvest 80 oz.
That's 30 lbs/yr. At $3,500/lb. (wholesale price for quality ganja), that's over $100,000.00/yr. after overhead (elec. and nutrients). Do this for 10 years and you'll make a million bucks.
Notes:
-growing marijuana is currently illegal.
-Sales of marijuana is a serious offense.
-Selling that much marijuana (5 lbs. every 2 months) means you may have to deal with organized crime, and selling pot is WAY different than growing it.
-I'm not advocating you doing this. This post is for entertainment purposes ONLY.
TokeMEup420
08-03-2005, 06:35 PM
I grow and smoke and some times buy but growing it's illegal I dint know that part that sucks ass!!!!!! You know why its illegal right b/c mairjuana is a drug and they can't tax it so they made it illegal.
demon54
08-05-2005, 07:40 AM
thats stupid they just made it illegal because they cant tax it?!?!? Whats a messed up government we have.
BradinTheGreat
08-05-2005, 09:33 AM
Our government is eternally f***ed up, and will continually f*** with it's citizens. It's sad, but true.
tiedye420
08-05-2005, 01:04 PM
Sure this thread isnt how to get attention and busted By the DEA?
anyone caught growing over 99 plants is subject to heavy penalties and mandatory federal sentances..
Watch your numbers if you follow this formula, Id say keep it under 40 clones per cycle.
this doesn't say how to get rich off of it, it explains how to grow enough to get rich off of
close but not the smae thing
to actually get rich you have to sell the shit
and that's a whole nother story
LAB RAT
08-05-2005, 02:06 PM
Oh & BTW alcohol is also a drug in the eyes of the law its OK to drink your drugs but your not allowed to smoke your drugs, does anyone think alcohol would be legal if it were a modern invention
grouchy_old_dude
08-05-2005, 02:23 PM
alcohol is a modern invention, in comparison to mj. BUT alcohol, like the plethora of "over the counter" drugs are socially accepted.
We're just a bunch of "social deveates" :D
LAB RAT
08-05-2005, 02:40 PM
Your absolutly right G.O.D. you dont see many people getting stoned going out in the car having a wreck & killing someone like drink-drivers do every day. The most dangerous a stoner gets is going to the store & buying the last of the milk & cookies.
Ban the bevy FREE THE WEED
Your absolutly right G.O.D. you dont see many people getting stoned going out in the car having a wreck & killing someone like drink-drivers do every day. The most dangerous a stoner gets is going to the store & buying the last of the milk & cookies.
Ban the bevy FREE THE WEED I wish my initials spelt God
LAB RAT
08-05-2005, 04:17 PM
Its just much easier than typing grouchy old dude, & yes i kind of embaressed him the first time i wrote it out like that, but if you want sound advice who better to ask than your local grass growing DEITY
tiedye420
08-05-2005, 07:21 PM
Yes please legalize it so I can plant thousands of seeds at once.
So much easier to breed that way from what i hear. I dont have much experience growing 1,000 + fields- But im willing to learn If I have to teach myself.
Legaize it to free the breeders if nothing else.Save the enviroment- make paper and clothing from it. It all just makes way too much sense to me.
Where's the milk and cookies man?
rangerdanger
08-05-2005, 08:41 PM
Yes, growing it is only 1/3 of the process.
2nd is selling it, and I agree, an entirely different deal. That's conducting a criminal enterprize, and when you're dealing multiple lbs. you'll get involved with big-time crooks. 2 years ago a local grower got jacked for something like 6 lbs, the ppl. took the pot and sped off without paying, the grower and his friend chased after them in his truck. He started ramming the thieve's car from behind, lost control himself and ran into a ditch. The thieves stopped, came back while the grower & friend were trying to get their truck out of the ditch, and shot both of them, killing the grower and severly wounding his friend.
And the 3rd part of the equasion is laundering/hiding the $$$.
The gov't make get suspicious and do a little digging and ask you why is it that you have 2 new SUV's in the driveway and a house full of electronics yet don't have a job, or show any income from a legit source.
Income tax fraud baby, and they take away everything you have and send your ass off to a federal lock-up where you'll be cleaning toilets for 6 cents an hour for years.
tiedye420
08-05-2005, 10:18 PM
Thats it ranger- we finally agreed on something.. Personally i think your O.K., just a little brash at times.....
Your alright by me though, for the record. Whether we agree or not....Ya know.
Buy old volkswagons and fix em up kids, dont get caught with the SUV in the driveway man.
meangreen
08-05-2005, 11:50 PM
I will have to fire one up,as this is a first.
tiedye420
08-06-2005, 07:04 AM
Hey spark some of this stinky stuff up.. Four bongs and I took out the trash- tried to call the dogs but forgot their names....
tiedye
adoutsider
08-06-2005, 07:22 AM
If I had any of my own lnad I'd consider it.
mynameisjake07
08-06-2005, 08:24 AM
your pricing is way off
if your growing that much weed you wouldnt sell a lb for 2500
I personally would sell a lb for around 1000 if I was growing that much
rangerdanger
08-06-2005, 02:14 PM
Prices vary by potency (and to a lesser extent flavor, aroma and appearance).
My pricing is NOT off, I'm telling you what lbs. of good Emerald Triangle pot currently go for, when selling 5 or so lbs. at a time.
Single lbs go for $4,000--$5,000.
Maybe you don't have any experience with primo organically grown well-cured N. California ganja.
tiedye420
08-06-2005, 03:19 PM
Shit I remeber getting them in SD for 1,800, then 1,850, then they went up to 1,950
pretty soon a single pound was at 2250, jake 07 that was before camp helicopters, and the very early 80's... Come on inflation over the next 20 years or so.
2500 is a damn good price, 5 lot or not.
MagicMushrooms
08-06-2005, 11:15 PM
MH lights are better for veg.
rangerdanger
08-06-2005, 11:28 PM
Not so magic mushroom.
People used to think so, because, to us humans, MH appears to resemble spring/summer sunlight.
But according to Ed Rosenthal, and a increasing # of growers, HPS equals or surpasses anything than MH can do, in ALL stages of a plants growth.
meangreen
08-07-2005, 12:07 AM
Once again I disagree as most will ,indoor horticultural studies have concluded the opposite of Ranger says or what Rosenthal says. MH's are better for veg.MH's have a balanced color spectrum with a higher % of blue /violet light rays then hps.Mh's are proven to keep plants shorter,stockier,and with more vegitation then will a hps in veg ever will.Stockier plants are stronger,better able to resist disease,and more productive then a plant using hps in veg.Hps are strong in the red/orange spectrum which is proven to promote flower production and stem elogation with stem elongation being a negitive to the indoor grower and therefore inferior to mh in veg,but the best for flower.If one does not have the $ for both lights then HPS is the best for both phases as hps has more to offer in veg then a MH does in flower.
rangerdanger
08-07-2005, 12:16 AM
Ed Rosental probably knows more about indoor marijuana cultivation than anyone who has ever lived.
Given adequate ventilation, HPS equals or outperforms MH.
The BEST single bulb to buy imo is a full-spectrum bulb (they make them for both MH & HPS ballasts).
meangreen
08-07-2005, 12:57 AM
I agree with ya on Rosenthal being one of the most experiened in the field and I agree with ya that full spectrum lighting is best with a combo of MH/HPS,but nowhere does he state hps is better then mh in veg.He does state if ya have one light a hps is the best all around. Given the resources a mh is better for veg regardless of what anyone says as blues are the primary spectrum needed for vegging plants which hps has little of.Show me the proof where ed says HPS is better in veg then MH,I have read all his books???Put your money where your mouth is; as by saying this conflicts with all scientific studies ever done on plant light spectrum needs.
rangerdanger
08-07-2005, 02:05 AM
OK, if you don't want to take my word for it, call another expert.
Call Humboldt Hydro (530) 241-7454, ask for Robert.
It was about 2 or 3 years ago after Ed R. did side-by-side comparisons (which I did about 10 years ago) and found out HPS out-performs MH, even for veg, as long as there is good ventilation (which all grow spaces should have).
P.S. I've been growing marijuana for a long time. Everything I post here is a result of personal experience--trial and error initially, later in a quest for knowledge. If I don't KNOW something from personal experience I'll state so in my posts.
Myths die hard. Take for example the post in another section of this forum where people claim they get high from smoking banana peels (nope). Or that hanging plants upside-down causes THC to migrate to the buds (nope), or that setting a jug of water/sugar/yeast in a grow room results in bigger buds (nope).
I was lucky enough back int the 90's to have multiple grow chambers. This allowed me to experiment with different techniques.
One of the first I tried was MH vs HPS lighting. When I first started growing indoors in the late 80's, I was told by and experienced knowledgable growers that HPS was better for veg than MH. But everything I read said no, MH for veg, HPS for flowering. So I did it that way.
I set up 3 indentical chambers. Same system (ebb and flood), same nutrients, clones from the same donor, but 1 with MH, 1 with HPS and 1 with full-spectrum. I checked several times/day.
I discovered that HPS out-performs MH, and is slightly better than a full-spectrum bulb (HPS produces more lumens per watt consumed).
The weed wasn't any better, but I got a faster growth rate with HPS.
MagicMushrooms
08-07-2005, 02:26 AM
This reminds me of an old thread. http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79793&page=1&pp=10 It turned into an arguing match. But anyway, I agree with ranger on everything except the light factor.
LAB RAT
08-07-2005, 02:27 AM
Rangerdanger go check your light spectrums you'll find MEANGREAN has done you up like a kipper once again
rangerdanger
08-07-2005, 02:30 AM
*Sigh*
You won't take the advice of experts.
Hopefully, someday you'll see the light.
LAB RAT
08-07-2005, 02:41 AM
Yes I do, water/yeast/sugar creates Co2 plants need light from the blue end= veg & red end to flower basic stuff really
MagicMushrooms
08-07-2005, 02:44 AM
That rat looks blazed, Is he holding a joint? I cant see
LAB RAT
08-07-2005, 02:47 AM
Yes buddy & the eyes are bloodshot red too he's well smashed
rangerdanger
08-07-2005, 02:49 AM
Go ahead and disreagard the advice of people who have done comparisons and KNOW what they're talking about, rather than people who just repeat what they've heard.
Putting a jug of water/sugar/yeast will NOT result in bigger buds. I KNOW this for a fact. I've proved it. If you want, I'll explain it to you. But I fear it fall on deaf ears. You don't want to allow yourself to be educated.
So go ahead on parroting misinformation. I will keep on posting on what I know.
LAB RAT
08-07-2005, 02:53 AM
I just bought a MH light today i installed at 12o'clock today so its now been on for 13 hours my new plants are already 1/4 inch bigger than the ones under my 1000 watt HPS the MH light is only 400watts with 3x 30w flo
LAB RAT
08-07-2005, 02:56 AM
The empty vessels make the most noise
MagicMushrooms
08-07-2005, 02:57 AM
The fat chicken makes the most food
LAB RAT
08-07-2005, 03:03 AM
he he he
LAB RAT
08-07-2005, 03:05 AM
Magic you'll find if you post here often enough Rangerdanger will disagree with you too, he'll say no no no skinny chickens are best
rangerdanger
08-07-2005, 03:23 AM
Prattle on kiddies.
LAB RAT
08-07-2005, 03:25 AM
My mY are'nt we mature
LAB RAT
08-07-2005, 03:34 AM
Rangerdanger I think you will find that most people on this site seriously dout your growing skills due to the fact you continually post astronomically incorrect facts & you always tell us of this author or phone this guy or this guy did this, why dont you tell us of your achievements/experements. = your a 17yr old NOVICE
p.s. A great mind descride you to me as a Growitall how true he was!!!!!!!!!
MagicMushrooms
08-07-2005, 03:51 AM
goddamit, I just found an ant on my keyboard and squished it. now i have ant on my finger.
meangreen
08-07-2005, 04:25 AM
Ranger,I dont doubt ya have done tests,but to say plants faired better with hps in veg then Mh is ridiculous as mh supplies as close the correct spectrum can be indoors period.I still see no facts or documented evidence from you to invalidate years of research not to mention what I and countless others have proven as valid.Once again ya cant except contridiction like a man,and I give ya an "A" for effort",but like many times before no factual evidence to back it up.He said she said wont do it here,and for a old guy ya sure like to call people names when your wrong and just can suck it up and except it.Quit being bitter and be happy as this is a matter of scientific fact and not pragmatics.
2cesarewild
08-07-2005, 04:28 AM
Every 2 months you'll harvest 80 oz.
That's 30 lbs/yr. At $3,500/lb. (wholesale price for quality ganja), that's over $100,000.00/yr. after overhead (elec. and nutrients). Do this for 10 years and you'll make a million bucks.
That's a high price for wholesale pot. Around here ps go for 25-26, around 27-28 cause it's really dry right now.
rangerdanger
08-07-2005, 04:48 AM
Rangerdanger I think you will find that most people on this site seriously dout your growing skills due to the fact you continually post astronomically incorrect facts & you always tell us of this author or phone this guy or this guy did this, why dont you tell us of your achievements/experements. = your a 17yr old NOVICE
p.s. A great mind descride you to me as a Growitall how true he was!!!!!!!!!
Tell ya what labrat. Come out here and if I can't PROVE to you everything I say, I'll give you a thousand bucks.
Or would you rather stay at home and bray like a donkey?
If you don't have the nads' to back up what you allege, STFU.
rangerdanger
08-07-2005, 04:51 AM
Btw, do you know how stupid you appear for saying you know more about growing than Ed Rosenthal?
Unable to contribute anything, you lower yourself to the level of schoolyard taunts. Grow up.
tiedye420
08-07-2005, 05:47 AM
I read the marijuana growers guide when i was 15, ed rosenthal Insisted in that book that a mature male is the most potent and best high, as oppossed to seeded bud.
At the time ed didn't know sinemilla existed i guess.
ed has been wrong many times that i can recall. I knew about sisimilla at age 13, long before i read that crap about males being the best part of the plant.
Oh or is there only one right way to grow people?
Opinions are like assholes, but i can smell yours from here.
My opinion-Ed is cool and a hero for the cause- but often misinformed in his writings.
tiedye420
08-07-2005, 05:50 AM
Meangreen has taught me more that ed could ever have, by the way. Because i dont trip on learning from someone a few years younger than me ,would be my guess.
Get a grip on that ego RD it will be alright.
rangerdanger
08-07-2005, 07:38 AM
If you're claiming that meangreen is more of an expert than Ed Rosenthal, god help you.
meangreen
08-07-2005, 10:50 AM
There ya go assuming things again Ranger.If ya have actually read all his books you should know they are all directed at novice growers and dont offer much for the experienced grower.Perhaps you should get outta the 70's and 80's as indoor growing has come a long way since you last refreshed yourself.Mel Franks books have more to offer then most from that era in which you have proven to be stuck in.
LAB RAT
08-07-2005, 12:26 PM
And at no point did i say i new more than ed but i do know more than you, do you think your mommy will give you a loan of a thousand bucks, & i want to sleep in the top bunk cos i understand your still a bed wetter
P.s I would love to come to America again do you think you could arrange for an adult to pick me up from the airport
tiedye420
08-07-2005, 12:55 PM
Somebody break out the marshmallows, cause this dude is getting roasted....
ILMAO evertime i hit this thread.....
2cesarewild
Nice shot of jerry, thanks i needed that..
MagicMushrooms
08-07-2005, 01:05 PM
hmmm, guess I realy lit the fuse on this one.
rangerdanger
08-07-2005, 01:09 PM
Heh heh reduced to childish name-calling.
A sure admission that you are no longer able to stick to the subject of cultivation and are in full troll mode.
Also an admission that you've lost the arguement.
Bye little girls, I will no longer bother to read your posts.
Have fun wallowing in your own craptitude.
>CLICK<
LAB RAT
08-07-2005, 01:37 PM
The argument (mh v hps) you still havent proved to us any facts to back up your wild claims lets here it then??? Take your time go get your ED rosthental book & re-type it on screen word 4 word
tiedye420
08-07-2005, 05:32 PM
Comon guys lets spark a fatty ...
http://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/500/Dscf0486.jpg
tiedye420
08-07-2005, 05:41 PM
Ed has a good basic knowledge layed down in the MGG, he does know how to grow decently, and puts it across understadably. It actually should be everybodys first book on growing marijuana because it is fairly comprehensive. But It is also simplistic in nature, and more likened to milk , whereas Marijuana botony is meat for grownups.
Oh and I did check the revised addition of MGG that grouch posted- they did add information about sinsemilla in there, and i couldnt find the bit about male buds being the best.
Seems the updated guide might not be as primitive as the first addition.
In retrospect, it is just what it says it is-A guide. A basic guide-
They dont get very technical, but thats part of the MGG beauty. Simple logic for easy comprehension.Great for reference as well.
tiedye
meangreen
08-07-2005, 05:50 PM
Guys,ya know to whom ya are ,myself included,enough is enough.Ranger has alot of experience to offer whether one agrees or likes how he presents it,or not. I will not continue to antagonioze as it makes me the worse.Ranger,I just ask that ya take contridiction in stride in the future as we all have a opinion which will all differ to a degree whether fact based or thru pragmatics.I openly APOLOGIZE as I feel partially at fault for all the negitiveness that has been brought your way .I do hope ya will accept as I was was in the wrong and all this negitivity does nobody any good.Peace bro
LAB RAT
08-07-2005, 06:17 PM
Here Here I disengage & smoke the pipe of peace
ekul le chet
08-08-2005, 12:18 AM
nice one meangreen, i was thinking of maybe posting something about all the bitching thats been creeping in here recently. with all thats going on in the world, and with the governments against us growing and everything else going on, it seems stupid and pointless to argue amongst ourselves.
people will always having differing opinions on things, thats good and the different ways of growing should be discussed instead of going in to playground style antics. i'm sure different methods work differently for different people - surely we can discuss those things without arguing? next time before starting arguing, smoke a bit of what you grow! ;) :)
as for getting rich growing weed ... the truly rich are those who enjoy what they have ;)
twos up on that peace pipe labrat ;)
meangreen
08-08-2005, 12:24 AM
Amen to simple needs,riches cause more then not to loose track of whats important in life and no nominal value can equal those important yet simple things the rich tend to take for granted.I know more unhappy rich people thethe good ole blue collar folks.
tiedye420
08-08-2005, 12:54 AM
OY VEY
A man of wisdom.... thanks eu
as for getting rich growing weed ... the truly rich are those who enjoy what they have ;)
MagicMushrooms
08-08-2005, 03:33 AM
http://www.overgrow.com/growfaq/588
rocketdude1234
08-08-2005, 05:55 AM
i bought a 2' steam roller the other day, y not put the troubles aside and load a bowl..........
MagicMushrooms
08-08-2005, 10:45 AM
that looks like a crack pipe
rocketdude1234
08-08-2005, 04:43 PM
damn dude, two feet worth of crack smoke? instant OD. but now that u mention it it does.
MagicMushrooms
08-08-2005, 07:51 PM
but it is sexy lookin ;)
2cesarewild
08-08-2005, 11:51 PM
2cesarewild
Nice shot of jerry, thanks i needed that..
Yea man I freaking love that pic...:D
outlaw immortal
08-09-2005, 04:52 PM
you wanna know how to get rich off growing pot? look at this link someone posted. 2lbs a plant, 18 ft tall plants indoors. damn
http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showthread/t-18570.html
tiedye420
08-09-2005, 07:21 PM
Cause when life looks like Easy Street,
There is danger at your door.
OleFlowerMan
06-30-2006, 01:32 AM
I declare.. Most of us don't have any experience with that. And about how much would the electric bill run for that "How to get rich " set-up. Hypothetically of course....Prices vary by potency (and to a lesser extent flavor, aroma and appearance).
My pricing is NOT off, I'm telling you what lbs. of good Emerald Triangle pot currently go for, when selling 5 or so lbs. at a time.
Single lbs go for $4,000--$5,000.
Maybe you don't have any experience with primo organically grown well-cured N. California ganja.
rangerdanger
06-30-2006, 04:14 AM
I declare.. Most of us don't have any experience with that. And about how much would the electric bill run for that "How to get rich " set-up. Hypothetically of course....
Easy to figure out.
Look at your elect. bill and see how much you get charged per Kw/H.
That's 1,000 watts for 1 hour.
Then factor in how many watts you'll need and how many hours per month you'll need them on.
Do the math.
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