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DrRobert
07-24-2005, 05:49 AM
I've done a lot of studies on that fateful day in dallas, as well as the conspriacy and cover up surrounding it....i just wanted to see what u all think, maybe feed off of one another...for anyone who actually thinks Oswald pulled the trigger or was the lone gunman, please stay away...haha
Pressed_Rat
07-24-2005, 06:57 AM
Believing Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy is like believing the sun is triangular.
interval_illusion
07-27-2005, 04:57 AM
defiantly the CIA. same people that killed MLKJ
makno
07-27-2005, 05:01 AM
dullas had it done ....
DrRobert
07-27-2005, 08:16 AM
i agree dulles had someting to do with it, especially seeing as though he was on the warren commission...the cia had something to do with it, but i think it was a conglomerate of entities.
*Ewan*
07-27-2005, 03:02 PM
What about the anti-castro cubans or the CIA. Kennedy planned to get out of viet nam that annoyed the CIA and he gave up on invading cuba after the bay of pigs.
matthew
07-27-2005, 07:43 PM
You guys watched JFK to intently .. it was Mr Oswald
The idea that Lee Harvey Oswald, an under-achieving awkward misfit, acting alone could murder the most powerful man in the world is simply an example of how banal murders can be.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3226908.stm
for anyone who actually thinks Oswald pulled the trigger or was the lone gunman, please stay away...
*leaves* :p
Flight From Ashiya
07-27-2005, 09:50 PM
It seems to me that Lee Harvey Oswald was shot by Jack Ruby in order to: 'shut him up'.
Ruby was a local 'Strip-tease nightclub' owner with a past as dubious & as shady as Oswalds.
Oswald always maintained that: "He was a patsy". (A fall-guy).
Court_lew_0216
07-27-2005, 11:33 PM
Believing Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy is like believing the sun is triangular.You mean it isnt?! just kidding, but actually. . .
I believe oswald could've pulled off the assassination alone. . . but i strongly believe he was not the only person behind it. I also believe his death was WAY too convienient. There is proof that he couldve gotten off those shots then made it down the steps into the room, before the cops came in and took him away. . . . to tell you the truth, i believe he was the lone gunman, just not the lone conspiritor
hippieatheart
07-28-2005, 12:00 AM
i studied this alot in my history class last year. i think it was the CIA that killed JKF. JFK and the CIA had multiple plans to kill Fidel Castro and they didnt work. I think that the CIA probably hired Lee Harvey Oswald. i do think that Oswald shot him by himself from the top of that book depository building, even though people thought they heard the gunshots coming from the grassy knoll also. the only thing they found of evidence was the gun and empty shells in the building, right? and if they would have found more evidence of guns and bullets, then they would have a reason to believe that it was more than one person that shot at JFK.. but since they dont that leaves me to believe that Oswald acted alone in the shooting, but not in planning the assasination...
did anybody ever see the actual video of the assasination? and did anybody ever hear of another theory of the "Umbrella Man"?
Nalencer
07-28-2005, 03:35 AM
The cops didn't get Oswald in the book depository. They arrested him in a theater.
jim_w
07-28-2005, 12:04 PM
Yeah, and the guy who shot lincoln ran from a theater to a book depository... weird, eh?
Flight From Ashiya
07-28-2005, 03:31 PM
The Kennedy's had more people out to get them than Bin Laden!!!.
J.Edgar Hoover.......Giansanmarco........the corrupt leaders of the Teamsters' Union.......the C.I.A...........the Mafia........the K.K.K.........Fidel Castro..........
Lee HarveyOswald was indeed a 'sleeper' communist with a Russian Wife.
Many years later Robert Kennedy was shot by 'Sirhan Sirhan' whom many think was'brainwashed' into killing him as he had no real motive.Still,every dark cloud has a silver lining;at least John & Robert got to sleep with Marilyn Monroe!!.
DrRobert
07-28-2005, 11:41 PM
Lee Harvey Oswald worked for the US government...and i think he did so until the day he died. Ive seen JFK and other conspiracy propaganda, and I agree with some things and i dont. But i have done countless research on my own. For example, Big business and the ultra right in Texas must have had something to do with it. (E. Howard Hunt). As well as the Justice Department under Hoover, and to a lesser degree President Johnson. In any murder, one must ask who had the most to gain? Why would they do it? Fingers point to President Johnson as he was the one with the most to gain, and he had the power -with the help of Hoover- to cover it up. Moreover, JFK was probably gonna drop LBJ from the ticket in 64, and was going to force Hoover to retire in his second term, espceially with the Kennedy's knowing of Hoover's personal life.
Another question to ask? why did the parade route take a weird turn in Dealey Plaza? why did it go down elm, when it was easier to go down main? Well, LBJ and the Secret Service are the ones who decided to change the route. interesting....
madcrappie
07-29-2005, 02:42 AM
Yeah, and the guy who shot lincoln ran from a theater to a book depository... weird, eh?
wrong, john wilkes booth fled from a theatre and ran to a barn (which could be also called a warehouse, if they were storing stuff in there) but it certainly wasnt a book depository.
madcrappie
07-29-2005, 02:44 AM
Lee Harvey Oswald worked for the US government...and i think he did so until the day he died. Ive seen JFK and other conspiracy propaganda, and I agree with some things and i dont. But i have done countless research on my own. For example, Big business and the ultra right in Texas must have had something to do with it. (E. Howard Hunt). As well as the Justice Department under Hoover, and to a lesser degree President Johnson. In any murder, one must ask who had the most to gain? Why would they do it? Fingers point to President Johnson as he was the one with the most to gain, and he had the power -with the help of Hoover- to cover it up. Moreover, JFK was probably gonna drop LBJ from the ticket in 64, and was going to force Hoover to retire in his second term, espceially with the Kennedy's knowing of Hoover's personal life.
Another question to ask? why did the parade route take a weird turn in Dealey Plaza? why did it go down elm, when it was easier to go down main? Well, LBJ and the Secret Service are the ones who decided to change the route. interesting....
Ive done alot of research on this very subject, studied it in college too... anyways, only the CIA had the power to pull it off and cover it all up. the dallas police department had a part in it too, of course, but the government was initially involved in it...... the mob wanted the kennedy's gone and so did castro, but they had no way of covering the whole thing up..... only the government (most notably the CIA) had the power.
madcrappie
07-29-2005, 02:49 AM
wrong, john wilkes booth fled from a theatre and ran to a barn (which could be also called a warehouse, if they were storing stuff in there) but it certainly wasnt a book depository.there are also other coincidences between lincoln and kennedy.
lincoln was shot in ford theatre and kennedy was shot in a ford convertible.
lincoln had a secretary named kennedy and kennedy had a secretary named lincoln.
lincoln was inaugurated in 1860, kennedy was inaugurated in 1960
lincoln and kennedy both have the same amount of letters in their name : 7
john wilkes booth and lee harvey oswald all have the same amount of letters in their name: 15
both presidents were from the north and shot by southerners
both presidents had a vice president named johnson. lincoln (andrew johnson) and kennedy (lyndon johnson)
and as I stated before, booth fled from a theatre and ran to a barn (warehouse), oswald fled from a book depository (warehouse) and fled to a theatre.
there are others but I cant think of them at the moment.
hippieatheart
07-29-2005, 06:39 PM
there is also the theory of the umbrella man. they said that there was a british guy sitting on a curb w/ an umbrella and he opened the umbrella when it wasnt even raining because 1) right after the umbrella opened, shots were fired.. which they're trying to say that it was a que for Lee Harvey Oswald to start shooting. or 2) the umbrella was opened towards JFK because in England, if you open an umbrella towards somebody that brings bad luck. thats what my history teacher told me last year lol... i'm not sure if this REALLY has anything to do w/ the conspiracy, but it might
Tool Army2012
12-23-2007, 10:03 AM
Believing Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy is like believing the sun is triangular. I swear you know so much. Once again, how do you exactly know that more than one person did it?
lee harvey oswald was a good shot
he was highly intelligent
despite this he took a shot at kennedy from the less ideal position which doesn't make sense.
kennedy had more holes in him than bullets
many witnesses claimed to have heard shots being fired from another position
one witness claimed to have nearly been killed by another stray bullet in someother location
the kennedy assassination was a coup de tete from which america never recovered. forces unknown working against the american people and its democatic government took over. in 2007 we have a theocracy that champions some and destroys others. this carnage will continue until america gets off its addiction to religion and oil.
to understand history is to understand what came after a particular event.
XBloodyNailPolishX
02-14-2008, 04:10 PM
just like MLKJ and John Lennon, JFK was asasinated by a pawn used by the government. That's my opinion... people like these three were a threat to the government because they encouraged change, free thought, and rebellion.
scratcho
02-14-2008, 04:41 PM
I find the 1st book to come out after the murder of JFK to be the most interesting ,informative and detailed.==Mark Lane's"Rush to Judgement'.
evil i 13
02-14-2008, 04:48 PM
if you watch the zapruder film closely you can clearly see the driver of the car shoot him with a .38
XBloodyNailPolishX
02-21-2008, 05:33 PM
I wouldn't doubt that JFK, MLKR, and Lennon were all inside jobs to some point, just like 9/11.
I can't speak too much for JFK, but MLKR, Gahndi, Lennon, etc. all spoke out for freedom, peace, and revolution. That is what their government didn't like, and had to silence.
xexon
02-22-2008, 02:37 AM
JFK was killed by Israeli mossad agents for his refusel to cooperate with the zionist puppetmasters that still control Washington today.
Marilyn Monroe was killed because she slept with him. They couldn't take a chance of her knowing anything.
Jimmy Carter got off lucky.
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MellowMike
02-24-2008, 09:50 AM
JFK was killed by Israeli mossad agents for his refusel to cooperate with the zionist puppetmasters that still control Washington today.
This is a very astute point. Unfortunately most won’t have any idea what you're referring to, and wont bother to find out.
The Scribe
06-10-2008, 04:11 AM
Lee Harvey Oswald's finger prints were all over the rifle that ballistic tests connected to the bullets in John Kennedy's body, including the bullets that missed. Oswald tested positive on a paraffin test, demonstrating that he had recently fired a gun. If there was a conspiracy, Oswald was part of it.
I have difficulty believing in a conspiracy involving a large number of people because someone will talk. I doubt there was a conspiracy. However I can think of two possible conspiracies involving a small number of people.
The CIA under Kennedy's orders was trying to assassinate Fidel Castro. A small number of KGB agents assigned to protect Castro may have decided to retaliate.
Also, in 1960 Joseph P. Kennedy, John's father, hired Mafia gangsters to stuff ballot boxes in close election districts. When Robert Kennedy as Attorney General went after the Mafia, those gangsters would have felt betrayed.
The Scribe
06-11-2008, 01:52 AM
JFK was killed by Israeli mossad agents for his refusel to cooperate with the zionist puppetmasters that still control Washington today.
You really have a thing about Israel, don't you?
rambleON
08-06-2008, 05:57 AM
Lee Harvey hands down. I used to be someone who wanted a conspiracy to be true. I wanted something to justify my feelings toward the wrong doings of our government.
The evidence that sold me on Oswald as the shooter was that the governor's seat was six inches higher than that of JFK...it debunks the magic bullet theroy...and proves that one bullet could and did inflict several wounds between the two.
cecily
08-27-2008, 10:51 AM
it was just a confused nutjob, and people want to believe it was a conspiracy because it is so painful to realize that the symbol of youth and innocence in this country was murdered by just one nobody. but he was, and so were RFK and john lennon. real life is often ridiculously and painfully common, but what can you do? it is what it is.
GmanSam
08-30-2008, 12:14 AM
The JFK assassination was completely a one man job. The secret service had most of the areas in the direct vicinity of the President locked down. Oswald had to pick a less than ideal position to shoot JFK because the area was secured. The secret service prides itself on its duty to protect the President and when a chief executive is lost under their watch, many resign or are on suicide watch. The crowd was screened for weapons and I assure you that the government has learned from its mistakes as this scenario is now textbook training.
governorbob
08-30-2008, 05:21 AM
I think there was a CIA-Mafia involvement. There were eyewitnesses that saw someone fire a rifle from the School Book Depository. In light of Oswald's defection and return from the U.S.S.R., I'm sure the CIA had a spook file on him. I think the fatal shot was from the grassy knoll. Consider the trajectory of the bullets: The one that entered Kennedy's back and exited his throat traveled from slightly right to slightly left. The missed shot supposedly hit the curb 450 feet away and either shrapnel from the projectile or from the curb injured bystander James Tague. Still in line with the trajectory from the Depository. Given that the projectiles from Oswald's rifle were full metal jacket, they would likely tumble or flatten on impact. They would not explode. If you follow the trajectory from the supposed entry wound in the back of Kennedy's head, it would be reasonable that on the same trajectory, the missile should have exited somewhere under his left eye. We all know this wasn't what happened. The shot that killed JFK was either a hollow-point round, or a mercury load.
The confession of James Files is particularly interesting. He provided details that are certainly in line with a bullet from the Knoll. Files was involved with the Mafia and claims he was offered the hit. The only problem with his confession is the bullets he claimed he used in the assassination weren't made in 1963. I think he is taking credit for someone else, because most of what he claims fits very well into this scenario. Almost too well.
420UFO
09-27-2008, 11:32 PM
Oswald was a pawn... he's was a sad, pathetic little man who had a weak mind that could be easily manipulated. It was an inside job, just like with Ganhdi, John Lennon, 9/11...
killuminati
09-29-2008, 03:11 AM
it was just a confused nutjob, and people want to believe it was a conspiracy because it is so painful to realize that the symbol of youth and innocence in this country was murdered by just one nobody. but he was, and so were RFK and john lennon. real life is often ridiculously and painfully common, but what can you do? it is what it is.
not even remotely close...
idk why you act like some random nobody killing these people is more painful than a highly organized system killing these people, for a specific reason.
I would much rather some crazed loon kill Lennon or JFK out of mania, than realize that these people died because they wanted to expose/work against something grand.
420UFO
09-30-2008, 12:19 AM
it was just a confused nutjob, and people want to believe it was a conspiracy because it is so painful to realize that the symbol of youth and innocence in this country was murdered by just one nobody. but he was, and so were RFK and john lennon. real life is often ridiculously and painfully common, but what can you do? it is what it is.
oh yes, be a good little obedient sheep... do not question...
its kinda funny how all these people who were killed were all very open minded thinkers who were speaking out and bringing change, and just before they succeeded, BOOM.
longcat
10-12-2008, 11:52 PM
If you did so much research OP you would know the answer
Kratos
01-26-2009, 04:47 AM
The 90's decade was great. We didn't even know how to wipe our butts until you teenagers arrived. LOL
If anyone conspired to kill Kennedy it was the Cosa Nostra. They hated him and his brother for cracking down on organized crime.
A better question is who cares. I'm sick of hearing about the Kennedy family. They act so saintly and their father was nothing but a common felon who made his riches running rum.
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