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purple_granola
07-20-2005, 08:48 PM
Im pregnant but i love my weed, also i dont know how im gonna get through morning sickness without it, my mom smoked weed while she was pregnant with my sister and it didnt have any bad effects, what do you think?

Oz!
07-22-2005, 09:28 PM
ask yourself this...if you saw a newborn baby, would you shove a spliff in their mouth or grind skunk into their food? :shrugs:

seamonster66
07-22-2005, 09:33 PM
I think its a bad idea

EmbraceInnerPeaches
07-22-2005, 09:38 PM
whoa, youre not thinking about the baby at all.... just yourself. Are you ready to be a mom? I know that sounds rude, not meaning to but I think that you should seriously think about having it or not..... Its a big responsibility and youre only 18.... You have to think about its needs and not yours... when i have kids im going to let them have the choice to smoke pot or not... when they are 16.. not a baby...

Jabbawaya
07-22-2005, 09:56 PM
Im pregnant but i love my weed, also i dont know how im gonna get through morning sickness without it, my mom smoked weed while she was pregnant with my sister and it didnt have any bad effects, what do you think? My personal belief is that using drugs during pregnancy is a HORRIBLE idea, and is terribly irresponsible. You are risking your child's health just for your own gratification, which is wrong. Even though marijuana has not been found to harm a fetus (according to my knowledge), I still would discourage it. There's absolutely no telling what effects it might have.

I would STRONGLY recommend you do NOT take drugs until after your child is past the stage of breastfeeding. I would beg you not to.

AbloodmoneyA
07-23-2005, 04:54 AM
If you actually have to ask that question then I'd really question your parenting skills.

Just ask the question to yourself in your head: "Should I smoke weed while pregnant?". Should you smoke tobacco? Drink alcohol?

Blind_Melon_Chitlin'
07-23-2005, 05:14 AM
Bad idea, stay sober during your pregnancy, you'll thank your self later when a completely healthy child is born to you. Congrats I guess.

purple_granola
07-23-2005, 09:48 AM
actually im only 17 my profile just says 18 cuz i didnt want it blocking me from anything, and no im not at all ready to be a mom, but there is no choice left in that now, its too late. i dont believe in abortion at all, so thats out of the question

btw i dont have any parenting skills so question all you want
IM ONLY 17

Shampoo
07-23-2005, 09:54 AM
well why are you having this kid? are you just going to let your mom take care of it? you COULD put it up for adoption

purple_granola
07-23-2005, 11:24 AM
I wouldnt be able to do that, and no i am a responsible person i can take care of it, i was just fucking wondering if people heard any good or bad stories about fucking pot babies
damn for people who think that its not harmful to them only to other people,
get over the social tabboo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i just wanted facts

and you call you selves hippies
(this message is only for the people who insulted me and questioned my competency, all others thank you for your input and kindly distributing it)

Shampoo
07-23-2005, 11:27 AM
i sorry...but you said so yourself that you werent ready to be a mom and they aren't being mean they are thinking of the kid

purple_granola
07-23-2005, 11:44 AM
im just trying to deal with the fact im becoming a mom. but thanx i will be ok i have a maternal insticnt and i know for a fact the baby will be loved by some many people it will make him dizzy. and i am already engaged to be married to the man of my dreams and couldnt think of a better person to help raise my children. well no hard feelings?

SirTokesAlot
07-23-2005, 09:30 PM
Ok... pot is known to not have any bad effects on the baby at all, or its delivery, or the baby's growth... anything... unharmed...

BUT... I wouldnt do it.. look at it this way... you dont NEED pot.. and just for a healthy mind, its worth not smoking during pregnancy, ...who knows, maybe you will be the one that they discover a flaw in pot smoking during pregnancy? And when your child grows up, it could hurt them to know their mom smoked pot when she was pregnant with them..... in the end its not worth it... I reccomend just stop for awhile.

mant_its
07-23-2005, 09:33 PM
Im pregnant but i love my weed, also i dont know how im gonna get through morning sickness without it, my mom smoked weed while she was pregnant with my sister and it didnt have any bad effects, what do you think?

God I hate stupid fucking questions like that. What do you think?

SirTokesAlot
07-23-2005, 09:52 PM
God I hate stupid fucking questions like that. What do you think?
I hate stupid fucking comments like that....

Blind_Melon_Chitlin'
07-23-2005, 10:27 PM
Ok... pot is known to not have any bad effects on the baby at all, or its delivery, or the baby's growth... anything... unharmed...

BUT... I wouldnt do it.. look at it this way... you dont NEED pot.. and just for a healthy mind, its worth not smoking during pregnancy, ...who knows, maybe you will be the one that they discover a flaw in pot smoking during pregnancy? And when your child grows up, it could hurt them to know their mom smoked pot when she was pregnant with them..... in the end its not worth it... I reccomend just stop for awhile.
Good advice but the information above it is false, just like cigarette smoke, pot smoke contains carbon monxide, carbon monoxide is what can cause birth defects in babies among other things. Its not worth the risk of putting your babies health and future at risk.

mant_its
07-23-2005, 10:31 PM
I hate stupid fucking comments like that....

Yeah. I bet you do considering you are prolly one of those morons who asks, "Can women smoke pot when they're pregnant"?

SirTokesAlot
07-23-2005, 11:22 PM
Yeah. I bet you do considering you are prolly one of those morons who asks, "Can women smoke pot when they're pregnant"?
K that made no sense, since where did you see me ask "Can women smoke pot when they're pregnant"?

Shampoo
07-23-2005, 11:28 PM
im just trying to deal with the fact im becoming a mom. but thanx i will be ok i have a maternal insticnt and i know for a fact the baby will be loved by some many people it will make him dizzy. and i am already engaged to be married to the man of my dreams and couldnt think of a better person to help raise my children. well no hard feelings?
no hard feelings:)

AbloodmoneyA
07-24-2005, 01:36 AM
bad idea.

porkstock41
07-24-2005, 03:26 AM
if it hasn't been said enough...if my input will make a difference at all...i hope you're not smoking anything while pregnant or around your kid once he/she has been born for that matter

purple_granola
07-24-2005, 09:25 AM
PUT IT UP FOR ADOPTION.

My brother and sister are adopted because their teenage mother's boyfriends ran away and they were not able to get good grades and raise a child. Both their mothers are now in college or graduated and my siblings get to be raised in a household that's good for them.


who the fuck are you to say that my kid wont be raised in a household that is good for them, you dont even fucking know me, i wish everyone would just shut up about this, cant the mod just delete the fucking thread, please

mant_its
07-25-2005, 06:21 PM
K that made no sense, since where did you see me ask "Can women smoke pot when they're pregnant"?

You must be stoked out of your gord if you can't read between the lines. Do I have to make everything SO simple for you?

Jack_Straw2208
07-27-2005, 12:48 AM
when in doubt, do without.

someone on this forum said that, but i cant remember who... so i dont take credit for those words.

metabomb
07-27-2005, 12:54 AM
there are loads of mean people on this site...it's interesting. i don't think you should smoke pot while you're pregnant. i think it would be dangerous. and i'm really glad you asked becuase that's an important question.

guitarslinger
07-27-2005, 02:24 AM
there are loads of mean people on this site...it's interesting. i don't think you should smoke pot while you're pregnant. i think it would be dangerous. and i'm really glad you asked becuase that's an important question.thank you, i know i havent posted in this thread yet but when reading through this thread i was really disappointed in a lot of peoples replys.

But anyways I think i agree with another poster up there "if in doubt go without"
Ive known a few pregnant girls your age and can see where your coming from. Its a hard roll to be in and Im sure its scarier than i can imagine but there are people on here willing to help and not hate.

Inavacuum
07-27-2005, 02:27 AM
Dont risk it, its not worth risking the health of your baby

MikeE
07-30-2005, 04:31 AM
I agree that now is not the time for marijuana.

In addition to the medical issues, you have more important things to buy than herb.

Lilyrayne
08-20-2005, 04:12 PM
First of all, good for you for at least being honest about your pot use and whatnot, and not being afraid to ask or voice your concerns about pot and pregnancy. Check out the parenting forum, there's a few threads about pot and pregnancy over there.

That said, my mom smoked pot while she was pregnant with me and I was born with a birth defect in both of my middle ears that has caused tons of health problems for me and made my quality of life not so great at times. Are the two related? There's no way to know for sure, but I personally feel like they aren't. However, they actually did not discover the birth defect until I was 23. So for the first 23 years of my life, there was no apparent cause for the misery I was going through, and my mom felt guilty that entire time, thinking it was her fault because she smoked pot. It wasn't until the birth defect was found and I brought up pot in a discussion with her that she admitted that she smoked it while she was pregnant with me, and that she thought it was her fault that I've had all these problems.

My point is: it may not appear that smoking pot effects a baby's health, but we don't know for sure yet. Why risk it? If nothing else, save yourself the guilt if your baby happens to be born with a birth defect or disability. If that happens, at least you won't be wondering for the rest of your life if it's your fault and it could have been prevented.

But if you are going to do it anyway, seriously consider eating it as opposed to smoking it. Smoking isn't good for anyone, but it can complicate a pregnancy, regardless of what is being smoked.

DirtyVibe
08-21-2005, 08:00 AM
Well I know that studies have shown that babies born to pot smoking mothers are statistically of a slightly lower birthweight, I can't do anything else. It probably isn't good for the baby though. No, that is not government bullshit.

THC is fat soluble and so I'm guessing that it gets transfered the fetus during pregnancy. Marijuana can cause mental problems like schischofrenia (sp?) in people who are already at risk, meaning it does alter the brain long term. So, on a developing brain that is no where even near completion, who knows what the effects could be? That is just speculation.

When you actually get the baby though, make sure not to smoke indoors because 2nd hand smoke really will hurt a developing child/baby. It can cause or activate inactive resporatory problems like asthma. No, that is not government bullshit.

I'll be honest with you. From your posts, you really don't sound very intelligent and I have hard time believing that you're even 17. I don't know you but I really don't think your ready for a baby. Whatever thoughts that may lead you torwards (abortion? not my advice. in fact i have offered no advice and i'm not a medical expert. don't accept anything i've said.)..

StonerBill
08-21-2005, 08:24 AM
a classic case of a 17 yo teenage mother who wants to smoke dope while pregnant, citing some reason that they need to keep doing it (morning sickness in this case). do you realise that pregnancy is meant to be a painful thing? you dissagree with abortion, so your prolly christian? if this is the case then your god gave you a painful birth and pregnancy because of the sins you apparently committed.

if your just another pro-life person then why dont you just start smoking cigarettes, as a gift to your child.

all purple granola came in here was to find someone to tell her that its alright to take drugs while pregnant, sadly.

abortion would be the best route for many groups of cells in teenage stoner mother's wombs. your throwing your life away, purple, why throw your childs away too?

just give up smoking while the baby is inside of you, and save money for teh baby, then you can decide whether to pick up smoking again after teh baby is born.

anyway being a hippy doesnt mean condoning bad things. being ignorant to health is also not associated with being a hippy.

DirtyVibe
08-22-2005, 01:46 AM
My best advice would be to abort and go to college. Your choice, your responsibility.

I mean, would you really want to have been born to a broke 17 year old that smoked pot while you were born and throughout your childhood?

If you end up smoking pot to releave pains like morning sickness, you will probably get mentally addicted. If you decide not to abort, stay off the pot.

nimh
08-22-2005, 02:12 AM
ginger root!
sea bands
accupressure
bradley diet

^^these are all really valid ways of dealing with morning sickness

Morning Sickness
One of the most common problems that women experience during pregnancy is morning sickness, frequently due to low hydrochloric acid (HCl) levels during the first three months. Supplementing with betain and HCl can significantly relieve the problem. During the last three months, however, HCl levels are often too high, and supplementing with HCl and betain should be stopped.

There are also many safe and effective herbs that can be used during pregnancy for nausea. Herbalists like Rosemary Gladstar, author of Herbal Healing for Women (Fireside, 1993) and Amanda McQuade Crawford, author of Herbal Remedies for Women (Prima Publishing, 1997) suggest peppermint, slippery elm, chamomile flowers, lemon balm, small amounts of dandelion root, and ginger. Ginger has a long history of relieving all kinds of motion sickness and nausea, including morning sickness. It can be taken as a tea or as a pill in dosages up to 250 mg four times a day.

Even in the severe form of morning sickness called hyperemesis gravidum, ginger is the herb to use. In one study of 30 women with this condition, 250 mg of ginger four times a day reduced the severity of nausea and the number of vomiting attacks in 70 percent of subjects. 7.

http://www.mothering.com/articles/pregnancy_birth/birth_preparation/herbal-allies.html

DirtyVibe
08-22-2005, 03:51 AM
Also, even once you have the kid you need to stop smoking pot. It's really irresponsible to raise a kid doing something that could get the childevicted and sent to child services into some shithole orphonage and you, the child's mother, into some prison. Think of how devestating that would be to you and especially him, you being the person he most loves, wants and needs in the world at that fragile emotional time in his life. Even though the law is unjust, it comes down to this: What do you love more, your child or your drugs?

You may have been getting a bad vibe from some of my posts. Really though, you can't be focusing on negative thoughts right now, however easy that may be. You shouldn't even be considering negative thoughts. Those are counter-productive and can only hurt you. Thinking positive thoughts is productive to you and your future child and can only help you. I do wish you luck and fortune. Don't let the child prevent you from getting an education! I can't stress that enough. You being college educated will, in the end, help you and your child immensely. Bye-

StonerBill
08-22-2005, 06:15 PM
nah thats going too far, once the child is born its up to the mum whether she can handle it or not. lots of babies have died from stoned mothers though. but if the smoking is kept away from the kids then its not too bad

DirtyVibe
08-22-2005, 09:42 PM
Yeah man, it's not really the smoking that's the problem. She's risking her child's feelings and future by smoking the herb.

Dark Rose
09-02-2005, 10:32 PM
She is just a kid! First of all, I have first hand experience, and you guys' reaction does her no good! She is going to close her ears because you all sound like close-minded authoritarians (well, not all of you, some of you did speak with some tact and caring).

I have done much research on this topic. I have an immune disorder that causes my immune system to attack my organs. I use herbs to treat my illness because the traditional pharmaceuticals are things like chemotherapy drugs, no thanks. Marijuana would help my appetite, nausea, blood pressure, pain, and anxiety (*if it were legal of course*) This is a huge deal because my illness is directly related to stress. The more stress I am under, the sicker I become. I also have a hard time eating and maintaining my weight due to persistant nausea and loss of appetite. When I became pregnant, I discontinued use of all herbs. I had to be hospitalized for a month I was so sick I almost died. After much research, I finally allowed myself herbs, but just enough to relieve some of my symptoms, and not often. Then I quit again when I was able. I firmly believe that the only reason why I made it through was with the help of herbs USED RESPONSIBLY. My physicians were amazed at how well the rest of my pregnancy went! My daughter is doing very well. The only real risks on pregnancy are similar, though not as bad as smoking tobacco while pregnant like low birth wieght. It could also cause some drowsiness or even high birth wieght. If used in small amounts, chances of this decrease dramatically. You have to wiegh the risks versus the potential benefits.

This young lady sounds like she is indeed very stressed. She is already at risk to have her baby with a low birth wieght, and for that reason, I do not advise her to use MJ while pregnant. HOWEVER! If she is feeling really desperate, the occassional puff on the weekend to relieve her anxiety and help her get her mind straight is probably going to do more good than harm as long as she is safe and responsible about it ( meaning she has a good reliable source that wouldn't lace it or get her busted ). Also, she must think about her prenatal care and all those blood tests. She is a minor, and they may be ableto drug test her without consent. Being a minor, she also must keep in mind that if she gets busted, she risks losing her baby.

Those are the facts and opinions of me to put it into perspective. I would hope that she uses that to come to an educated decision , and not be merely turned off by the rantings of the other close-minded people on this board.

StonerBill
09-06-2005, 05:33 PM
do you think shell be safe and responsible with it? you smoked caus of an illness... this girl will be smoking because she wants to. you cant compare it when the line between need and want goes away

Dark Rose
09-09-2005, 05:50 PM
I actually don't think she should do it, but she is going to do what she wants to do regardless of what we say. I am hoping that if we approach her with truth and compassion, that maybe she will at least think about it a little more, and maybe at least cut back and try to be more careful. I remember what it was like at 17 and I certainly don't want to go back there, and being pregnant at that age... I can't even imagine. I do also think that caffeine would be worse on the baby than MJ. Caffeine is addictive, can cause headaches, nervousness, and low birthwieght. I quit caffeine as soon as I found out I was pregnant in all of my pregnancies.

SG69
09-10-2005, 06:18 PM
Pregnant at 17? Jesus, don't you kids know what condoms are? This is 2005, not 1932. Kids having kids, my god.

Anyway, if you're not going to abort the kid (which I would because there are enough humans on this planet as it is) or put it up for adoption (which I would if I couldn't abort it) then lay off any type of drug while pregnant.

www.VHEMT.org (http://www.vhemt.org/) - vasectomy prevents abortion

peacelovebarefeet
09-11-2005, 08:09 AM
you know, this girl needs some compassion, some LOVE.

dark rose has the right idea.

girly, i hope everything works out for you, please dont smoke bud while you are carrying a child... it just doesnt work. i am only a year younger than you... and to think if i was you, i would be a mother in like 2 years... thats scary.

i wish you the best of luck....

MamaTheLama
09-11-2005, 08:20 AM
I had to sit there and smile the other day while a woman told me she was still puffing while pregnant and then said "besides, it makes the baby smarter".
I swear I wanted to smack her so friggin hard................................

SG69
09-11-2005, 09:48 PM
Smarter? BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You should have whacked her one, I would have. right upside the head too.

BleedBaby
09-18-2005, 12:20 PM
Ok, I barely even know if i can say everything i want too...Some of you are talking to her like she's a thing, some of you are telling her to kill a poor innocent baby, and some are telling her to give it up (when you barely even know her situation), and oh i dont even know what else...On the pot issue, i wouldn't do it because it does cause low birth weight, and low birth weight could equal sickness at birth...I'm seventeen also, and i've already had a few preggie scares, but being a second mother to my nephews, i have a good amount of parenting skill...but this is not about me, this is about what assholes you're most of you are being...anyway, peace.

steffan
09-18-2005, 12:28 PM
i'll bet its better in moderation than alot of what a doc would perscribe

wiggy
09-18-2005, 01:41 PM
i havent read the whole thread as i cant be arsed to lol.


smoking ANYTHING while pregnant will deprive the baby of oxygen. which isnt good, if you put your head in a bag or something and one of your mates kept shutting of the oxygen supply you would get pretty ill and things - agreed? (dont try that though)

it can stunt the baby's growth, your baby could be born earlier than you expectct and have other things wrong with it, e.g asthma, you have to think of it from your baby's point of view, for example if you where looking after your mates kids would you blow your smoke from your joint in their face, the answer should be no.

Everything you eat, drink, breathe etc. you baby does to.

also why is this in the medical weed part? is it for medical use or just cause you like getting stoned?

underplay
10-01-2005, 12:30 PM
My sister accidentally smoked i think once or twice before she even knew she was pregnant, she talked to her doctor and he said that the most harmful period towards the baby would be smoking in the vary early stages of development, and smoking during the last month or two is not a good idea, but if you were to smoke, it would be the best time.

She smoked one time with me during the last month, she successfully had her baby delivered, perfectly good health, and it was a big baby too(not sure about the exact weight). Its been ~2 months and the baby is doing just fine..healthy as can be. However, I agree with what everyone has posted so far, about how its completely stupid to smoke while being pregnant and the odds should not be challenged.

Good luck with your baby..

nova
03-03-2006, 06:16 PM
My personal belief is that using drugs during pregnancy is a HORRIBLE idea, and is terribly irresponsible. You are risking your child's health just for your own gratification, which is wrong. Even though marijuana has not been found to harm a fetus (according to my knowledge), I still would discourage it. There's absolutely no telling what effects it might have.

I would STRONGLY recommend you do NOT take drugs until after your child is past the stage of breastfeeding. I would beg you not to.
You know using drugs during pregnancy is stupid. But wait. Isnt pot a herb that is naturally grown on this planet? Isnt pot used to cure nasea for cancer patients? Now before you all start ranting and raving you have to understand from the mothers point of view. Picture yourself throwing up so violently you are crying and sweating and you cant breath between chucks. Now picture this lasting 15 to 20 minutes. Then you get a 5 minute break so you try to eat. Two bites in and you are in the bathroom again for another 15 mins. Repeat all day and all night with no ability to keep down a cracker of sip of water. Proceed till you start vomitting blood and then go to emergency room. Now go back to when you are vomitting violently and you get a 5 minute break. What if you smoke a little weed then instead of ending up in the bathroom you are able to eat and keep it in your stomach. You dont go to the emergency room and you have the ability to get up off the bathroom floor. Now I know most of you who are badmouthing this poor women have not been pregnant and dont know what its like. If she is smoking pot for pleasure then thats not good but if you are just trying to prevent yourself from starving and having to be put on a feeding tube at the hospital then I say she is making the right choice for her and the baby. How can your baby be healthy if you cant eat or drink water for days??? Pot has never been known to hurt anyone. Studies have said pot will probably bring down the babies weight at birth and risks related with a low birthweight baby but that is also from smoking cigs and they have a hard time finding pot smokers and not cig smokers.

ALL YOU bad mouthers do your research. Find out what doctors say. All the doctors I have seen know and they tell me I am doing what needs to be done to stay healthy.

wiggy
03-03-2006, 09:01 PM
If you get morning sickness there are loads more things to try weed NOT being one of them. There are lots and lots of natural things - weed isnt a good idea - how are you getting on?

Lilyrayne
03-03-2006, 09:28 PM
I'm gonna have to step in here and say that as someone that deals with nausea on a regular basis, due to a vestibular disorder, there are NOT loads more things to try for some people. I've tried absolutely everything suggested and NOTHING works except for 2 things: pot, which works really well, and valium, which only helps if you can keep the little bastard down long enough for it to work (and it still doesn't work as well as pot).

I don't know if I've mentioned this before or not but I had a friend who was starved to the point of malnutrition and near death during her pregnancy, and none of the anti-nausea meds she was given worked for her, if she could even get one down. It's a wonder she lived through her first trimester, but she did. However she lost so much weight that both her and her baby's life were in danger. If pot had been an option (if she smoked it) I would have had no objections when the only two choices were to either dangerously starve or smoke a LITTLE bit JUST enough to help get some nutrition of some sort down.

That said, I do think women should refrain from smoking as much as they possibly can, but not if it means starving to death.

wiggy
03-03-2006, 09:33 PM
I think the sick people get in pregnancy is different - if anyone has anything wrong with them medically they proberly shouldnt be smoking pot at all.

There are loads of other things people can try - there are new drugs coming on the market every week for sickness its just finding them thats hardest. Believe me - there are lots that will work but alot of people just give up on them, I would seriosuly consider doing something else for sickness and not smoking weed to get rid of it

lonewolf313
03-03-2006, 09:48 PM
uh........Born in the 70s ALL of my friends parents smoked weed during pregnancy, some doctors have recommended it, and none of those babies had those listed problems. They all grew up, got college degrees, and are now healthy well balanced professionals in 2006.

Having ever taking any type of chemical birthcontrol is much more risky than injesting marijuana while during pregnancy.

THAT SAID.....as stated earlier, smoking anything during pregnancy can be harmful to some, not all, but some.

My mom is a Pharm D. I grew up in a pharmacy lab, I know a little bit about how chemicals react in bodies. First thing is, every BODY is unique in relation to the ways that chemicals react inside and out. THere are very few black and white areas in pharmacology.


Marijuana wasn't really smoked much before the 1900s, people used eat it as candy, mostly. YOu can make marijuana butter and cook with it, getting a variation of the same effects as smoking, sometimes even to a more extensive degeree.

PurpleGel
03-04-2006, 02:31 AM
to the OP:

don't rely on stories, good or bad, of dope-smoking preggies. you need to understand that smoking pot IS bad for your baby and increases the CHANCE that your baby will NOT be normal. if you can put two and two together, this means that if your friend says "oh, i smoked pot when i was pregnant and my baby is fine," you cannot assume that the same will hold true for you. also, just because a baby is born relatively normal does not mean it will DEVELOP normally.

if you love your baby, then you already know what's right. on the other hand, if you love weed so much that you don't mind putting a human being at risk for having a horrible life, then i'd consider you to be an awful person and you should never have become pregnant in the first place.

MikeE
03-04-2006, 08:29 PM
I think that your doctor's opinion is far better than any you can get on the internet. Your doctor knows the particulars of your situation in a way that no one on the net can. If you don't trust your doctor's knowlege or judgement, why are you letting them catch the baby?

MaryJane69
03-04-2006, 08:34 PM
NO!!!

That is SUCH a bad idea. Don't smoke, don't drink, don't toke.

You have to think of your baby for the next 9 months. Not yourself.

Good for you for asking though. Now you know!

nova
03-05-2006, 04:13 AM
I'm gonna have to step in here and say that as someone that deals with nausea on a regular basis, due to a vestibular disorder, there are NOT loads more things to try for some people. I've tried absolutely everything suggested and NOTHING works except for 2 things: pot, which works really well, and valium, which only helps if you can keep the little bastard down long enough for it to work (and it still doesn't work as well as pot).

I don't know if I've mentioned this before or not but I had a friend who was starved to the point of malnutrition and near death during her pregnancy, and none of the anti-nausea meds she was given worked for her, if she could even get one down. It's a wonder she lived through her first trimester, but she did. However she lost so much weight that both her and her baby's life were in danger. If pot had been an option (if she smoked it) I would have had no objections when the only two choices were to either dangerously starve or smoke a LITTLE bit JUST enough to help get some nutrition of some sort down.

That said, I do think women should refrain from smoking as much as they possibly can, but not if it means starving to death.

Bree I agree with you. I tried everything the doctors told me to do. I mean everything. I was thinking about my babies health and my health. Honestly people do you know how much making a baby can take out of you if you cant eat at all? I was so weak I couldnt get up off the bathroom floor to go back to bed to rest for a few minutes. I was in constant pain ( and I get migranes and can handle pain) from my head to my toes. I'm not complaing I am trying to let you guys see the side of the fence. How long does it take for someone to starve to death? I never want to find out.
The moment I had a suspicion I was pregnant I stopped smoking pot. When I got the postitive test results I was still only feeling mild nausea. With in a few days I quit my job because I was in the bathroom the whole day. I couldnt do my job. I am now 18 weeks and my nausea should have stopped or slowed down. I used to have to eat something every two hours (after a toke) so I wouldnt be in severe pain. They say if you have food in your stomach it helps with nausea. I would take two bites and throw it all up if I didnt have a toke that day. Now I can go 5 hours in between meals. Which means I can sleep 5 hours without having to wake up in pain and vomit. I am still sick up to 5 or 6 times a day even with the help of a little pot. I only smoke as much as I need to get a few good meals in and be able to get up and do what needs to be done.
If you say I have thought for my baby then you are dead wrong. That is all I think about. I follow what my doctors tell me and I have now been able to put on two pounds. I would not be healthy if I couldnt eat and I couldnt eat if I didnt toke a bit. Dont judge when you havent been in my or her shoes.

nova
03-05-2006, 04:16 AM
AND DO YOUR RESEARCH!!!

There have been issues with the drugs doctors give for morning sickness. Severe birthdefects. I took DICLECTIN which I just found out is illegal in the USA. I wonder why. At the hospital they gave me a prescription for a drug they give cancer patients. They never said it was safe or not. I am glad I never took it. I would rather take something natural then man-made!

nova
03-05-2006, 04:20 AM
to the OP:

don't rely on stories, good or bad, of dope-smoking preggies. you need to understand that smoking pot IS bad for your baby and increases the CHANCE that your baby will NOT be normal. if you can put two and two together, this means that if your friend says "oh, i smoked pot when i was pregnant and my baby is fine," you cannot assume that the same will hold true for you. also, just because a baby is born relatively normal does not mean it will DEVELOP normally.

if you love your baby, then you already know what's right. on the other hand, if you love weed so much that you don't mind putting a human being at risk for having a horrible life, then i'd consider you to be an awful person and you should never have become pregnant in the first place.
Guess what ARSE ...its not the love of WEED...its the will to live and be healthy so your child can be healthy...if you dont eat your baby doesnt eat

nova
03-05-2006, 04:23 AM
I think that your doctor's opinion is far better than any you can get on the internet. Your doctor knows the particulars of your situation in a way that no one on the net can. If you don't trust your doctor's knowlege or judgement, why are you letting them catch the baby?
This is the only MALE who knows anything on this thread. You are right. I would listen to my doctor before any of these people. And I do that is why I can come here and know what I am talking about. Im not just ranting about my personal opinions and putting down a 17 yr old girl who is having a hard time and trying to do the right thing. Just because you dont think its right doesnt give you the right to tell her to kill her baby

Lainey
03-05-2006, 05:00 AM
would the doctor know that u had been smoking after examining you? and if so, could it be reported as abuse? maybe it is a dumb question, but i just thought of it and these days i wouldnt doubt it

wiggy
03-05-2006, 03:58 PM
Nope it wont be reported as abuse (even though it is) a pregnant woman can do what she likes while pregnant and when the baby comes out then the baby will have treatment for whatever she has done - which IMO its pretty shite

lonewolf313
03-05-2006, 05:40 PM
JUst change the injestion form, and there will be No problems ir you eat the marijuana instead of smoking it. The actual act of smoking it is the only harmful aspect of the whole thing.

nova
03-08-2006, 06:02 AM
Just wondering, do all you negative and judgemental people go up to a pregnant woman who is smoking a cigarette and berate her? Do you tell her to kill her baby? Do you tell her she is not thinking about her baby? I am guessing that you have never done that nor would you. Have some respect for peoples choices. Just becuz its not right for you doesnt mean you have to make sure its not right for everyone else.

MikeE
03-08-2006, 07:39 AM
Do I volunteer to give good advice to strangers when not requested? No, I don't very often.
But when someone asks my opinion, they get what they ask for: my opinion.

wiggy
03-10-2006, 05:30 PM
Just wondering, do all you negative and judgemental people go up to a pregnant woman who is smoking a cigarette and berate her? Do you tell her to kill her baby? Do you tell her she is not thinking about her baby? I am guessing that you have never done that nor would you. Have some respect for peoples choices. Just becuz its not right for you doesnt mean you have to make sure its not right for everyone else.
No I wouldnt do that - unless I knew her then I would, I would tell her the truth that she IS harming her baby.
You said have some respect for peoples choices - maybe take some of your own advise and have some for ours (people against)

Just becuz its not right for you doesnt mean you have to make sure its not right for everyone else.Sorry but how the hell is it right for the baby? How is it right that just because a silly woman wants to smoke weed when she is pregnant. You are ment to give your baby born or unborn 110% but how the hell can someone do that if they have a spliff hanging out of their mouth.

nova
03-10-2006, 11:23 PM
No I wouldnt do that - unless I knew her then I would, I would tell her the truth that she IS harming her baby.
You said have some respect for peoples choices - maybe take some of your own advise and have some for ours (people against)

Sorry but how the hell is it right for the baby? How is it right that just because a silly woman wants to smoke weed when she is pregnant. You are ment to give your baby born or unborn 110% but how the hell can someone do that if they have a spliff hanging out of their mouth.
I do see all the negative points. I am not happy that pot is the only thing that can keep food in my stomach. I worry about my baby. I want it to be healthy and I want to be healthy.
I am trying to see from an outside opinion becuz I was on your side before. If I just assumed that the "silly woman WANTS to smoke pot while pregnant" Ya I see why you can put her down. If there were no medical issues, I would not smoke pot. If I smoked like I used to then I would be irresponsible. I dont go and get blazed anymore. I stopped that the minute I thought I could be pregnant. I havent gotten "stoned" for months. I only smoke a few hoots to make the nausea settled and thats it.
You are suppossed to give your baby 110% as you say. SO that would include eating nutritious food, taking prenatal vitamins (which do prevent many things) and resting. Basically taking care of your body so it can grow the baby. If you didnt read my past posts then I will say again... how long would my baby and I survive if I cant eat? If I dont eat then the baby doesnt eat. I asked how long it would take for a human to starve to death? How long would it take a baby?

If I wanted to smoke pot regardless of being pregnant then I would be irresponsible. If I needed to smoke it to be healthy and I am doing everything my doctor says, then I am doing everything I can to have a healthy baby.
I do agree that some women are irresponsible and dont care what they do to the baby. I say a woman who smokes the entire pregnancy and doesnt try to quit or cut back is irresponsible.

40oz and chronic
03-11-2006, 03:50 AM
MYTH: MARIJUANA USE DURING PREGNANCY DAMAGES THE FETUS. Prenatal marijuana exposure causes birth defects in babies, and, as they grow older, developmental problems. The health and well being of the next generation is threatened by marijuana use by pregnant women.

FACT: Studies of newborns, infants, and children show no consistent physical, developmental, or cognitive deficits related to prenatal marijuana exposure. Marijuana had no reliable impact on birth size, length of gestation, neurological development, or the occurrence of physical abnormalities. The administration of hundreds of tests to older children has revealed only minor differences between offspring of marijuana users and nonusers, and some are positive rather than negative. Two unconfirmed case-control studies identified prenatal marijuana exposure as one of many factors statistically associated with childhood cancer. Given other available evidence, it is highly unlikely that marijuana causes cancer in children.

mr.morrison
03-11-2006, 05:35 AM
i still wouldnt risk it. it does kill brain cells, so when a baby is still forming a centimeter big brain, i wouldnt want to risk the baby having mantal retardation becasue of my smoking.

Lainey
03-11-2006, 06:16 AM
i hate babies. kill 'em all. .. as metallica would put it. if u wanna get high get fukn high, ur baby probably likes it anyways. and if it comes out to grow and be retarded or somethin, does that give it less value? life requires benevolent quality; disabled, retarded, or like everybody else. if it comes out 'abnormal' and u are upset then maybe you need just dont know true love and respect. a true mother can teach her child to live life to the fullest, even if it was forced marijuana before it was born. if babies werent meant to take in weed, they wouldnt.

Lainey
03-11-2006, 06:17 AM
get high. let the baby grow to be different. a true decent mother could teach her child to live life to it's required benevolent quality. and if babies werent meant to take it weed, they wouldnt.

LuMpYtRiChOmEy
03-11-2006, 12:35 PM
Damn it pains me to see so many fikkin ignorant stupid gullible drones of society swallowin the sludge that the powers that be feedem threw alla theyr info portals. Fact is Herb is a legitamit releaver of many ailments and conditions that plague us. Before the duponts and pharmacutical companys forced Herb out of legality Folks would use it as a pain killer and calmer durring childbirth and it was used to relieve morning sikness too. Now with all the crapp commin outta the TV from your politicians they got most fools fooled into trustin some kinda krapp in pills that they made in a labritory with all kindsa chemicals to do the job. Herb is harmless and helpfull. It has always been a great comfort to pretgnant women threwout the ages. This great smear campain from the feds is tryin to pull the pollyester over the eyes of "the masses". Herb is harmless, helpfull and non toxic. Praise the Lord and pray that this Herb is legalized soon, I think the future of our world depends on it. Wait and see the many wonders atributed to this plant once its legal taboo's are removed. Use the Herb God gave ya with the law that He put in your heart. Blessins on ya thread starter. Blessins on you and your new Baby :) !

~MorningManiacMusic~
04-04-2006, 12:32 PM
Man, there are some fucked up people here!Why are you telling her to get an abortion or to adopt>??!!!

Have the kid.

ConcealedCulture
04-04-2006, 11:23 PM
I think the sick people get in pregnancy is different - if anyone has anything wrong with them medically they proberly shouldnt be smoking pot at all.

There are loads of other things people can try - there are new drugs coming on the market every week for sickness its just finding them thats hardest. Believe me - there are lots that will work but alot of people just give up on them, I would seriosuly consider doing something else for sickness and not smoking weed to get rid of it
Yeah new, toxic, synthetic drugs that haven't been extensively used/tested by humans on humans. People have been using Cannabis for thousands of years.

i still wouldnt risk it. it does kill brain cells, so when a baby is still forming a centimeter big brain, i wouldnt want to risk the baby having mantal retardation becasue of my smoking.
Smoking pot kills braincells. Cannabinoids themselves are not neurotoxic, what kills cells is the carbon monoxide from combusting the plant material.

Which is why I would definitely suggest using a vaporizer if you must use Cannabis while pregnant. I also wouldnt put any of your recreational desires over the child's health. I dont see any harm in moderately using Cannabis during a pregnancy to relieve symptoms that could be damaging to the baby, like no appetite, nausea/vomiting, or extreme stress or anxiety. But I don't think you should be blazing with friends just to chill either during this time.

Best wishes

ConcealedCulture
04-04-2006, 11:32 PM
The drug war has really indoctrinated everyone with bullshit. Both of my parents were big time hippies, and I went to Florida State, didnt graduate from there, but hey I still went. My sister graduates next month at the top of her class in nursing school at a big medical university. There are so many legal things that pregnant women use that would be more likely to totally fuck a kid up.

PurpleGel
04-06-2006, 04:22 AM
just because THC isn't neurotoxic in the ADULT brain, does NOT mean it doesn't fuck up the developing nervous systems of the fetus! don't treat fetuses like "little adults"--they're not!

if you smoke weed while pregnant, you have to accept the risk of having a fucked up baby and/or a baby that doesn't develop properly (in several dimensions) into normal adulthood. don't think that if a baby is born "normal" that the weed has had no effect. it can certainly lay down some landmines for the kid during the future developmental process...

this is not to be taken lightly. you're choosing whether or not to play god with this child. and god creates some really twisted designs--don't you forget it.

LuMpYtRiChOmEy
04-06-2006, 11:42 AM
Pharmacutical companys play god. Like another poster said,somma the pills an shitt they give pregnant wimmen are more dangerous and less harmless than Herb. God put the answer rite in front of us but the pharmicutical companys cant charge ya for what a plant dose. so THEY play god. Marijuanna's not toxic in children adults fetuses or lab rats.

PurpleGel
04-07-2006, 12:46 AM
unfortunately, a substance doesn't have to be neurotoxic to exert a negative affect, especially on a developing fetus...

i'm very much against the obscene prevalence and (mis)use of pharmaceutical drugs, as many people here are. however, just because marijuana is natural, doesn't make it safe to use during pregnancy.

if preggies smoke pot, they run the risk of an assortment of developmental problems from short-term fetal growth retardation to long-term impairments in cognition that will show once the child begins the later developmental stages. plain and simple:

"Important evaluations of the long-term effects of prenatal marijuana exposure on child development have been reported by Fried (2002a, 2002b) and by Cornelius and coworkers (2002). Prenatal marijuana use resulted in somewhat shorter stature in offspring; IQ was about the same; basic visuoperceptual skills were about the same. However, problem solving involving visual interpretations and analytical skills was adversely affected. Marijuana exposure in utero had modestly adverse effects on executive functioning in offpsring at ages 9 to 12 years. Maternal nicotine cigarette smoking contributed to more problems in offpsring than did exposure to marijuana smoke. Richardson and coworkers (2002) noted that at age 10, children whose mothers smoked marijuana during pregnancy were signficantly impaired in measurements of learning, memory, and impulsivity." (Julien, 2005)

Anyone thinking that marijuana is safe to use during pregnancy is living with their heads up their asses. if the argument involves whether to use marijuana OR some other harmful drug, marijuana may be the safer option. regardless, nobody in their right mind would advocate the use of marijuana by a pregnant women.

LuMpYtRiChOmEy
04-07-2006, 01:41 AM
Marijuanas only been demonized for bout less than a hundred years, and by gready bloodthirsty profeteers too! I think Il believe the Wizzdom of the ages. I dont know julien but I know that marijuanas bout the safest comfort a pregnant or birthing woman could have. The asians have been usin it for centuries and so have other cultures, it works for everyone but the pharm co,s and babilonians.

PurpleGel
04-07-2006, 03:25 AM
you're way off, here, i think. you see, i'm in FULL support of marijuana. i understand the history of marijuana VERY well. i understand how amazing and "safe" it is, especially in comparison to all the awful shit out in the human world. man, you're preaching to the choir...

still, no one in their right mind would ADVOCATE the use of drugs during critical stages of a mother's pregnancy. as i already asked, is the argument between using pot or not, or is it between using pot or something else that is potentially worse? pot is NOT good for the fetus! this is well researched and documented... the only reason i care about posting in this thread is because here is a woman who needs to understand that if she CHOOSES to smoke weed during her pregnancy, she runs the risk of permanently fucking up her baby. does the baby want to be fucked up in life? probably not. would you rather harm the baby with pot or harm the baby with dangerous opiates or pharmies? i'd choose pot too... the point, however, is that this woman is taking a RISK and she needs to understand what's involved. i'm done with this... if her baby grows up to be an impulsive person who has memory problems and can't make decisions, then don't say i didn't warn her. it just MIGHT happen...

p.s. memory and analytic skills weren't nearly as important in history as they are becoming today. it's okay for a bunch of 2000-year-old asians to be stoned and having stoned babies. it's not the same today.

LuMpYtRiChOmEy
04-07-2006, 05:01 AM
I dont think she should smoke while shes pregnant but I figure it might do her good to make some butter and put it in her chocolate milk or if she couldnt get that down maby some hot penutbutter herb crackers. Im recomendin that if she likes it she could use the Herb wizzley. Mabey she could eat a lil bit of hash too. I figure that if she just uses enoughf to sooth her discomfort and ease her ailment it prolly wouldnt be too much on the kid. Just wait till they legalize it, then it'l be in everything! They already figured out how good it is, now they just gotta figure out how to comercialize it. Do we all realy need to wait till the gov't says its ok till we use it? I think it WAS in pregnant woman meds before the duponts smeared the good Herb. Smater of fact I think it was in lotsa over the counter meds back then. Even back then they knew it was less harmfull than asperin. Tellin a preg woman not to use Herb wisely is like worst than tellin her not to take asperin. What I mean is, I think Herb is safer for a preg woman than asperin.

Diamond23
04-24-2006, 09:07 PM
Purple Granola.....This is all for you. I'm not gonna rag on you. I know how you feel and what you are going through. I'm not gonna say it's ok for you to smoke pot while your pregnant. But I understand the urges. I smoked pot while I was pregnant with my daughter. I didn't do it all the time probbaly like 5 or 6 times. But the doctor didn't seem to worried about it, I wasn't doing coke or drinking. And my daughter came out perfect, perfect weight height. And I wasn't even in the hospital more than 24 hours. We went home right away. She is 4 now and doing great she is so freaking smart. Advances fast and everyting. Not saying pot helped her but saying but didnt effect her. Now once again I didnt smoke everyday. Just once in a blue moon with her. But its not a harmful drug when it cures and helps so many things in this world. Hofuly I could help a lil. I know alot of peeps were coming down on you, and I just had to get in a stick up for you. Your so not a bad person or mother. Your actually a great mother wanting and asking for advice. Keep up the good work, and if you need anymore help just let me know. Peace

DontKillYourself
04-25-2006, 02:59 AM
Smoking reefers aint fine for pregnancy, but my wife did meth when he had my little boy billy and he turned out just fine

jo_k_er_man
04-25-2006, 03:41 AM
i still wouldnt risk it. it does kill brain cells, so when a baby is still forming a centimeter big brain, i wouldnt want to risk the baby having mantal retardation becasue of my smoking.
MYTH: MARIJUANA KILLS BRAIN CELLS. Used over time, marijuana permanently alters brain structure and function, causing memory loss, cognitive impairment, personality deterioration, and reduced productivity.

FACT: None of the medical tests currently used to detect brain damage in humans have found harm from marijuana, even from long term high-dose use. An early study reported brain damage in rhesus monkeys after six months exposure to high concentrations of marijuana smoke. In a recent, more carefully conducted study, researchers found no evidence of brain abnormality in monkeys that were forced to inhale the equivalent of four to five marijuana cigarettes every day for a year. The claim that marijuana kills brain cells is based on a speculative report dating back a quarter of a century that has never been supported by any scientific study.

boothy
04-27-2006, 11:11 PM
I don't think the gal is even reading this thread anymore, shame, on the second page there are some A+ replies.

LuMpYtRiChOmEy
05-01-2006, 11:30 AM
Hey P-Gran! Hows the Baby?! Blessins on Yas.

Sarombi
05-05-2006, 10:54 PM
even if there is a 1 percent chance that it will is it worth the rise 9 months isnt that long a little mental disilpline will do u good

wiggy
05-06-2006, 03:20 PM
MYTH: MARIJUANA KILLS BRAIN CELLS. Used over time, marijuana permanently alters brain structure and function, causing memory loss, cognitive impairment, personality deterioration, and reduced productivity.

FACT: None of the medical tests currently used to detect brain damage in humans have found harm from marijuana, even from long term high-dose use. An early study reported brain damage in rhesus monkeys after six months exposure to high concentrations of marijuana smoke. In a recent, more carefully conducted study, researchers found no evidence of brain abnormality in monkeys that were forced to inhale the equivalent of four to five marijuana cigarettes every day for a year. The claim that marijuana kills brain cells is based on a speculative report dating back a quarter of a century that has never been supported by any scientific study.Scientists have learned a great deal about how THC acts in the brain to produce its many effects. When someone smokes marijuana, THC rapidly passes from the lungs into the bloodstream, which carries the chemical to organs throughout the body, including the brain.

In the brain, THC connects to specific sites called cannabinoid receptors on nerve cells and influences the activity of those cells. Some brain areas have many cannabinoid receptors; others have few or none. Many cannabinoid receptors are found in the parts of the brain that influence pleasure, memory, thought, concentration, sensory and time perception, and coordinated movement(5).

The short-term effects of marijuana can include problems with memory and learning; distorted perception; difficulty in thinking and problem solving; loss of coordination; and increased heart rate. Research findings for long-term marijuana use indicate some changes in the brain similar to those seen after long-term use of other major drugs of abuse. For example, cannabinoid (THC or synthetic forms of THC) withdrawal in chronically exposed animals leads to an increase in the activation of the stress-response system(6) and changes in the activity of nerve cells containing dopamine(7). Dopamine neurons are involved in the regulation of motivation and reward, and are directly or indirectly affected by all drugs of abuse.


Effects on the Heart


One study has indicated that a user’s risk of heart attack more than quadruples in the first hour after smoking marijuana(8). The researchers suggest that such an effect might occur from marijuana’s effects on blood pressure and heart rate and reduced oxygen-carrying capacity of blood.

Its wierd because a huge amount of people on this site claim to be hippies and smoke weed - even though the drug is openly tested on animals

And the health risks arent just on the brian - think of the effect on the heart, lungs etc

digitalldj
05-06-2006, 10:51 PM
your a 19 year old irresponsible mother, go ahead and smoke your kids already fucked.

KoNe
05-08-2006, 12:45 AM
My mom smoked pot while she was pregnant with my sister. Her hands sweat all the time and they sweat really bad. So yeah it would be better to hold back on pot, alchohol or cigaretes. Having a baby might make your life harder, but it all depends on u if u want it to be good it will be

indescribability
05-25-2006, 12:41 AM
Im pregnant but i love my weed, also i dont know how im gonna get through morning sickness without it, my mom smoked weed while she was pregnant with my sister and it didnt have any bad effects, what do you think?
I know plenty of people that have smoked pot while pregnant and the effects on the child have been pretty minimal, with the exception of those who smoked massive amounts. Most hospitals drug test babies upon birth these days though. Be careful. Let your baby come out positive and you'll lose it.

PurpleGel
05-25-2006, 04:10 AM
the biggest problem is not obvious or immediate birth defects in the newborn. the real problems will appear later, when the child's brain reaches maturity (12yrs+).