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Old 06-23-2012, 01:30 AM  
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Default Turkish War Plane Shot Down Over Syrian Waters

Media outlets are reporting that a Turkish f-4 phantom war plane was shot down over the Mediterranean today by Syria. Syrian officials are claiming the aircraft was flying over Syrian airspace, less than a mile offshore . And that Syrian antiaircraft gunners shot it down . Tensions at the borders were high already , because Turkey a n.a.t.o. member supports the Syrain rebels against the current regime . According to news stories Syrain government rescue teams are actively searching for and cooperating to find the air crew of the f-4 .

The Turkish response was that the incident is being looked into and that necessary steps would be taken . They have not stated that the downed aircraft was a provoking attack on the Turkish jet . It could be now however ,that this is no longer A Syrian civil conflict .

 


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Old 06-23-2012, 05:36 PM


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I would have no problem whatsoever with this escalating to war, I think someone has to step up and put an end to it. Syrian forces are shelling civilian towns, raping children, and all kinds of disgusting acts against humanity. Good for NATO if they grow some balls on thos one.
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Old 06-23-2012, 05:43 PM


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I would have no problem whatsoever with this escalating to war, I think someone has to step up and put an end to it. Syrian forces are shelling civilian towns, raping children, and all kinds of disgusting acts against humanity. Good for NATO if they grow some balls on thos one.

Sure, if you sit in Kalamazoo, Michigan you couldn't give a fuck if a war breaks out halfway around the world.

Let's fuel the industry a bit. Make some fucking money.
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Old 06-23-2012, 06:09 PM


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I would have no problem whatsoever with this escalating to war, I think someone has to step up and put an end to it. Syrian forces are shelling civilian towns, raping children, and all kinds of disgusting acts against humanity. Good for NATO if they grow some balls on thos one.

War is never the answer Matt . And we can't rely on what the West propaganda machine spins out . Most of it is bullshit . The region is unstable because we made it that way . A game is playing out here , one that could prove deadly for the human race . We MUST stop the war mentality ! War for profit is pure evil . We can't continue illegal wars without constitutional approval . The endless invading of soverign nations and the war mentality must stop .
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Old 06-23-2012, 06:27 PM


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Sure, if you sit in Kalamazoo, Michigan you couldn't give a fuck if a war breaks out halfway around the world.

Let's fuel the industry a bit. Make some fucking money.
Yeah, and you can sit wherever you are and not care about the syrian children getting buttfucked while their mother is gang raped and murdered. Theres already a war there and its not a fair fight, its a bully trying to hold onto power. Drop the hippie bullshit and think about how else the Syrian people can survive.


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War is never the answer Matt . And we can't rely on what the West propaganda machine spins out . Most of it is bullshit . The region is unstable because we made it that way . A game is playing out here , one that could prove deadly for the human race . We MUST stop the war mentality ! War for profit is pure evil . We can't continue illegal wars without constitutional approval . The endless invading of soverign nations and the war mentality must stop .
I agree that war is not a good answer, but its already a war. The people called for al assad to step down, so he called in the attack helicopters and mortars. I understand the reluctance to escalate it, but these people need help. Its not propaganda, its war crimes. My pakastani friend who has family in Syria haant been able to contact them for weeks because their town is pinned down by well armed professional soldiers killing indiscriminately. Im not a war monger by any means, but at some point someone has to help these people out.
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Old 06-23-2012, 06:27 PM


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War is never the answer Matt . And we can't rely on what the West propaganda machine spins out . Most of it is bullshit . The region is unstable because we made it that way . A game is playing out here , one that could prove deadly for the human race . We MUST stop the war mentality ! War for profit is pure evil . We can't continue illegal wars without constitutional approval . The endless invading of soverign nations and the war mentality must stop .
This guy knows, we are at fault as well.. We have been fighting for control of the middle east for a long time. If we take Syria and Iran we can call it a day but Russia and china don't want us getting any closer.
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Old 06-23-2012, 06:43 PM


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Its wrong to not help someone in need, simple as that. Yeah we'd benefit from it and probly set up a puppet government... but so what? Is your distaste for american foreign policy greater than your distaste of civilian slaughter?

If anyone knows how else to stop al assad and his minions, im all ears
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Old 06-23-2012, 07:45 PM


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nice shooting syria!

So sick of this bullshit period. I dont give a rats ass anymore.

Blow each other to dust and be damned...
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Old 06-23-2012, 08:18 PM


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Its wrong to not help someone in need, simple as that. Yeah we'd benefit from it and probly set up a puppet government... but so what? Is your distaste for american foreign policy greater than your distaste of civilian slaughter?

If anyone knows how else to stop al assad and his minions, im all ears
Both sides are at fault, but the u.s is fueling the opposition so Assad can look like the bad guy. Russia and china keep backing him up so the middle east isn't taken over by the west. While over here we get headlines about the massacre that is all caused by Al Assad when in reality most of it is by NATO, UN Troops, and the Free Syrian Army. Just a couple weeks ago i heard on the news that Al Assad was using children as shields on there cars but when Israel did the same thing they got no media coverage. Israel is as fucked as Syria, not in terms of anarchy but in terms of "bad things they did"
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Yeah, and you can sit wherever you are and not care about the syrian children getting buttfucked while their mother is gang raped and murdered.

Absolutely right. This one's a really shitty one and it will probably get uglier still.

But calling for war doesn't help very much in this case. There's just too much shit involved. What if we get a major clusterfuck in the region with the russians involved? You think that that would help syrian children?
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