Aerianne

Here's a news story on this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18554246

Tyrsonswood

This is probably not a good thing...

PsychonautMIA

Fabricated attack so NATO can get involved.

Tyrsonswood

Obviously...

TheGhost

Here we go again ....

Skip

I did read that the Turkish jets flew very low over Alleppo, a Syrian port, in attack formation and broke the sound barrier, causing booms. One was shot down the other escaped.

At the time that happened, Syria had grounded all its planes due to the defection the day before that saw a captain pilot his Syrian Mig 21 to Jordan and asked for asylum.

Some say the downing of the Turkish jet was in retaliation for Turkey being involved in the defection.

This can only inflame tensions as the world's powers align their military forces in a face off that could so easily start WWIII.

Syria now has the most modern Russian anti-aircraft systems and even cruise missiles and WMD like the world's largest chemical weapons stash.

So they're not going to be a push over esp. with the Russian, Chinese and Iranian fleets on their way to defend Syria. So something might happen before all these ships reach Syria.

I think the whole Egyptian situation is pending due to the 12 Chinese + Iranian ships due to pass thru the Suez canal. I think the election is being rigged just so that the Egyptian military can keep control over the canal and stop the Iranians who'd been barred from using the canal for years, until Mubarak was thrown out.

TheGhost

Don't know .... seems too much of a coincidence. The thing is Syria says the plane was inside their airspace and the Turks are NOT denying it.

I also read somewhere that both, Syrian AND Turkish, navy vessels are conducting search operations. A joint mission??


Feels to me as if everybody is rattling the sabers but nothing happens.

Nobody really wants to make this shit happen.


If the election is rigged it's not for that specific reason. It's simply power.

But one way or another they will fuck it up if they don't get a grip on the country within 3 months.

Skip

Looks like I'm right! The Syrians used the latest Russian anti-aircraft system to down the Turkish jet, which was on reconnaissance, watching the Russian ships unload.

This article states that it might've been Russians who actually shot down the plane since the systems are too new for the Syrians to have been trained yet.

Meanwhile Turkey may invoke its NATO defense pact, which would mean all NATO countries would come to its defense if things escalate!

Funny thing is the Israelis are saying that since Turkey cut off military ties with Israel a couple of years ago (over the gaza blockade ship incident), they haven't been able to install the latest Israeli counter measures in their jets and thus are easy targets for Syria.

Of course those F-4 are hardly the latest equipment and are usually used only for reconnaissance these days. In fact, these F-4s were doing daily runs along the Syrian coast. So it's quite likely the Syrians knew exactly what they were doing, and it wasn't a "mistake". It was a warning!

http://www.debka.com/article/22112/N...rkish-warplane

TheGhost

Looks like the Syrians are already ducking on this. Apparently some dipshit let loose without knowing what he was doing and everyone is extremely sorry now.

ANKARA, Turkey (AP) -- A Syrian official says the downing of a Turkish military plane Syria has said was operating in its airspace was an accident, and not a hostile act against its neighbor.
Syrian Foreign Ministry spokesman Jihad Makdisi told Turkish news channel A Haber on Saturday that Syria had exerted its "sovereign right" against an "unknown" aircraft violating its air space.
Makdisi was quoted as telling the channel that Syria did not realize the plane was Turkish, and "there was no enmity against Turkey."
He said Syria was helping Turkey find the missing pilots and recover the wreckage.
Turkish officials said Saturday that Turkey was contemplating retaliatory steps, but did not elaborate.

http://www.wgme.com/template/inews_w...wgme.com.shtml