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Old 01-26-2012, 08:41 PM  
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Default Paving The Way For Big Ag/Pharma....

As growers, my wife and I know a lot of the NorCal growers and have attended many events. We are now involved in a county organization providing resources to MMJ patients since the Fed is shutting down dispensaries in the state. I've been saying for about 3 years now that the way I see it going is that the Fed will begin aggressively enforcing drug policy and then turn around and open the door for Big Ag/Pharma to cash in on a HUGE market. Well....Now this...
http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2012/01/...elves-by-2013/

I've no doubt that the FDA will approve the drug and thusly allowing governments both Federal and State to completely ban cultivation of MMJ. Patients can now give their money to Big Pharma instead. And if they choose to grow their own? I'm sure their property will be seized and they will be prosecuted. Expect to see some "high profile" busts to ensure that the peasantry is suitably scared.

 


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Old 01-27-2012, 05:51 PM


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In order to change the "Status Quo" we have no choice but to get involved. If we simply sit on our asses, our "illustrious" elected officials will make the decisions that suit their interests...not ours. When we get involved, we need to be effective too. Here's an example..

When I made the decision to speak publicly against the ban on outdoor cultivation I cut my hair. In fact, I shaved my head (my woman's idea...she said I would look like all the other narcotics LEO's around here as they all shave their heads). When I went to speak I didn't go "business casual", I wore a suit. When I spoke, I introduced myself as a contributing member to this community, a homeowner, a taxpayer...and a grower. I spoke to them about how we are good neighbors and keep our grow discrete. I spoke of my woman's chronic pain and how opiates were prescribed and how bad those prescription drugs are. I made it "personal" and I put a "professional" face to their image of..."The Pot Grower". And you know what? Every supervisor on the board thanked me for speaking and suggested I participate in the workshop that will craft the permanent ordinance.

Another gentleman was there that has spoken before about MMJ and was stunned. He even told us that he's never gotten the kind of response from the board like I did. But here's the difference...He shows up with his long hair, "OG Kush" T-Shirt, blue jeans, and sandals.

I know it's wrong, but perception is reality. I knew the people I would be addressing so I presented myself accordingly and presented a cogent argument and in return received a good response from the Board of Supervisors. My fight isn't over yet, but we'll not give it. We need to stay involved.
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Old 01-28-2012, 06:05 AM


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Welcome to the reality of being a counterculture. I knew this stuff was becoming far too mainstream and out in the open because the support base is simply too weak--in other words, not wealthy enough because those who are wealthy won't admit to supporting it.

Let's face it. SOPA/PIPA was "defeated" (not exactly out of the count yet) because it hurt big business in San Jose.

We're not going to convince the ruling culture that cannabis is a positive thing for society.

I accept that cannabis, and other psychedelics, are part of a counterculture. Cannabis isn't just something I take, it's part of who I am. I have the balls to stand up to the system and hold on to the true fighting American spirit.

I am glad that the majority of dolts in this world can't appreciate who and what I am. Because the majority in the world are bumbling idiots just out for greed and imaginary happiness. I am not part of their system.

Jesus, anointed in cannabis-filled oil, was also counterculture. He believed in peace and an alternative way of living: judge yourself before you judge others. While I don't consider myself a Christian; Jesus ,if only in story, was closer to us than the mainstream.

Cannabis culture will never be accepted by our society. If you can't handle that, then you probably should quit. What we offer is a new way of thinking; existing.

What we offer is a way free of pain and being imbued with happiness, away from harsh pharma chemicals. We offer an entirely new paradigm of industry with hemp cultivation. Our mushrooms offer an entirely new way of exploring your own mind to find the answers you seek about yourself and the world around you. We offer peace. We offer truth.

Which is it going to be?

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Old 01-29-2012, 03:37 AM


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If they approve this, then it's a good thing for canna-smokers in general. They will no longer be able to deny medical benefits of cannabis and will have to reschedule to save face.
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Old 01-29-2012, 04:09 AM


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They won't reschedule the raw plant...... so, no, not really. Since when does the Fed worry about saving face? They know they are living a lie and they know most people know they are living a lie. They don't give a shit.
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Old 01-29-2012, 04:45 AM


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If they approve this, then it's a good thing for canna-smokers in general. They will no longer be able to deny medical benefits of cannabis and will have to reschedule to save face.
The Fed will legalize the "prescription" cannabis via the FDA and local governments will outlaw the cultivation of MMJ...A "win-win" for government and corporate America.

Don't forget that when Prohibition was repealed, big brewers/distilleries were allowed to produced alcoholic beverages, but it was illegal for the average citizen to even brew one bottle of beer until the 1970's.
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Old 01-29-2012, 05:07 AM


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If they approve this, then it's a good thing for canna-smokers in general. They will no longer be able to deny medical benefits of cannabis and will have to reschedule to save face.
Oh yeah, like they did with marinol......


They will just parade it as another legal "alternative", and act as though it makes smoking weed that much more inexcusable.
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Old 01-29-2012, 11:30 PM


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I say seed banks are where it's at for the long haul. Keep the corporations grubby paws off the genetic material so they can't gmo it all into oblivion
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Old 01-30-2012, 04:29 AM


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I think everyone dissenting from Sativex in this thread is a little stupid...

I heard about Sativex like 3 years ago, back when it was only in other countries and thought to myself "WOAH, I want that", but unfortunately it wasn't allowed in the US. I have been hoping ever since that Sativex would come to the US as a prescription drug.

See my favorite way to consume cannabis is sublingally via a tincture. Which in essence is what Sativex is, but far better. Because it's not just a alcohol tincture, it's a more advanced extract and isolation of the necessary chemicals from the plant, that are formulated in a way to be more absorbing in the mouth. It really is superior to anything you could grow and extract yourself.

I personally suspect sativex will overrule use of the actual plant simply because it is better. Why would anyone really need to grow their own plants if sativex is available? Sativex will be better than any extract you can produce yourself, and the standards of quality will be better maintained, and the standards of dosage will be maintained. Which will let it be able to be FDA approved, as an actual prescription, bringing the option of real cannabis as a medication to every American. The FDA is never going to approve an actual cannabis plant as a prescription, it's never going to approve a pot brownie as a prescription, or a chocolate candy. Seriously. Standing behind the 'Medical Growers of California' isn't going to bring cannabis as a medication to all of America. It's just not going to happen, because the FDA is not going to approve a whole plant, or brownie, or whatever. What this company has done with Sativex is huge, they have gotten real cannabis (not synthetic) into a form which may very well get FDA approval. If you cared anything at all about actually getting cannabis to all of the world as a medication, you should be standing behind and supporting the company pushing Sativex. I mean seriously, have you forgotten why you started supporting the growing of medicial cannabis in the first place? It was to bring the drug to all of America s a viable treatment, and now a company is really close to actually accomplishing this and your critisizing them? Personally I am going to purchase some stock in the company behind Sativex.
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Old 01-30-2012, 05:40 AM


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Ry, there's hundreds of active and important chemicals in pot.

Also related to my reasoning against this shit, money.

Also, massive hypocrisy.

Also, fuckin' freedom, thats a big one to me.
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Old 01-30-2012, 02:40 PM


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Ry, there's hundreds of active and important chemicals in pot.

Also related to my reasoning against this shit, money.

Also, massive hypocrisy.

Also, fuckin' freedom, thats a big one to me.
Indeed. If the Fed were to approve Sativex while simultaneously decriminalizing cultivation I would be OK with it. The issue here is that there's a push, based upon what I see happening everywhere, to prosecute growers, to shut down dispensaries...and now approve a cannabis based drug so that the people who were once growing can now purchase from a pharmaceutical company? So instead of growing your own, you can give your money over to a company...that's the point.
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