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11-13-2011, 06:23 PM
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Penn State Child Sex Scandal: Sandusky Guilty!
UPDATE 6/23: Sandusky found guilty of 45 out of 48 charges.
UPDATE 11/26: New Charges Surface! Sandusky accused of sex with grandchild!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...DCHILDREN.html
Jerry Sandusky, a huge figure at Penn State has been arrested and charged with 40 counts of child abuse. In addition, Joe Paterno, the head coach, was fired along with the President of Penn State and the Chief of Security. All of these administrators failed to report incidents involving Jerry Sandusky to the police. Their coverup allowed Mr. Sandusky to continue to abuse children for more than a decade.
Apparently more victims are ready to come forward now. This is just the beginning of what is already a huge scandal.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7AC0PG20111113
Read the 23 page Grand Jury indictment of Sandusky here:
http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/teg/tsg/r...ygrangjury.pdf
There may be much more to this story, as there are rumors of more people being involved in a child sex ring, besides Sandusky, although no evidence has surfaced of the involvement of others yet.
Sandusky is now released on bail!
Sandusky used a charity he founded, Second Mile, which helps children, to find his victims. He often took kids for sleepovers at his house where he molested them, or to Penn State's football locker room where he forced himself upon them in the showers when no one was around.
In another twist to this story, the local DA who had been informed of an early incident with Sandusky, and who refused to prosecute him, disappeared under very mysterious circumstances in 2005. His body has never been found, but his laptop and hard drive (completely destroyed) were found on the banks of the Susquehanna river.
When news of coach Paterno's firing made the rounds, students at Penn State rioted! Rather than focusing their ire at Sandusky or those who covered up the abuse, the students were far more upset their beloved coach was fired. That highlighted the attitude of Penn State towards football and how easy it is for them to just dismiss or ignore child abuse.
Another newsworthy incident occurred recently at Penn State when news that Osama Bin Laden had been killed. The huge celebrations at Penn State were shown all over the MSM, causing many to cringe that death of anyone should result in such a big party.
http://scotttopic.com/category/current-events/
The drunken parties at colleges are well known, but Penn State seems to have its priorities all wrong. What a SICK school it must be! What a wonderful example of American decadence in the 21st century.
Don't they teach these kids ANYTHING in college anymore, or is all about partying and sports?
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11-16-2011, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Skip
That's exactly what happened to me after reading the indictment. It made me sick to read. That's why I felt compelled to create this thread cause I felt the need to discuss it cause I don't usually get so mad about this kinda shit.
It also made me sick again to listen to Sandusky's excuses. What an evil liar. Yes, they're gonna stick to the "horsing around" story.
It just seems so obvious to me that the coverup involved a lot of powerful people and THAT's what gets me even more. A conspiracy to hide child abuse, just like the Catholic church.
And BTW, what about all those other churches. I'm sure it's not just Catholics with this problem.
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I heard part of the interview on the radio and it struck me how Sandusky seemed to think it was perfectly normal for a middle aged man to shower and horse around with boys. If it's any consolation, he did a lot of work for the prosecution.
As for the Catholic church, I'd expect that the abuse is disproportionate as a side effect of the church's insistence that its clergy take vows of celibacy. The subset of people willing to conduct life under those constraints will deliver a greater proportion of men willing to target children. |
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11-22-2011, 06:11 PM
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If a cougar is an older woman wanting sex with a younger man, what is an older man wanting sex with a younger boy, a nittany lion?
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11-23-2011, 02:55 AM
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to acorns and beyond
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Originally Posted by The Backdoor Man
If a cougar is an older woman wanting sex with a younger man, what is an older man wanting sex with a younger boy, a nittany lion?
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11-25-2011, 04:57 PM
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UPDATE 11/26: New Charges Surface! Sandusky accused of sex with grandchild!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...DCHILDREN.html
And I just now realized that Sandusky and his wife ADOPTED six children (they have NONE of their own). They also took in foster children...
Uh, yet another RED FLAG on this guy... I wonder if they were all boys... two definitely were as their names are mentioned in Wikipedia because they are both sports coaches... (Like father, like son, eh?)
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11-25-2011, 07:17 PM
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one day all these cocksuckers and their enablers will get caught.
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11-25-2011, 07:56 PM
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The image below is from a DVD where Jerry Sandusky teaches kids how to play football. Looks like they're practicing for the locker room shower.
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Originally Posted by Jerry Sandusky on Second Mile Website
The Second Mile began as a dream of mine 18 years ago, when young people who came from difficult circumstances and weren’t doing well, began, with our help, to grow and change into productive citizens. The agency was an outgrowth of my own home, which included six adopted children, foster children and fresh-air kids.
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Some pedos just can't get enough kids!
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11-26-2011, 03:09 AM
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Collectively the nation expresses concern and compassion for the victims, known and unknown, of Sandusky et al. Yet the ripple effect of this crime touches far more people than will ever be discussed in this forum or any other type of public discourse. The suspicion and taint of pedophile reaches out to every man who ruffles a boy’s hair, who hugs a kid, who pauses to watch a group of kids playing. What about the man who gives his time to teach kids the fun of a sport? It casts doubt on the intent of every man who chooses to free a kid from the hell of an orphanage. It locks lonely kids away from the human touch and embrace that feels so reaffirming.
After 9/11 and continuing to this day every Muslim in the United States has become suspect. Regardless of any positive traits, skills or attributes they may have, they are regarded with suspicion or malice or hatred. Not for anything they did, simply because they have something in common with the diseased fundamentalists that struck us. In the 1980's there was a crazed witch hunt for daycare providers who were under a cloud of suspicion because somebody somewhere may have violated a kid. Those old enough to remember that era will remember how insane it was. Many good lives were destroyed. Idiotic laws and regulations were created that protect no one but add piles of pointless paperwork.
Now we're at it again. Without doubt at Penn State innocent boys were sacrificed in the name of greed and fame. Most certainly we have to backtrack and sniff at any whiff of possible wrong doing. We owe it to the known and potential victims. We owe it to ourselves as a society. This will need to be a nationwide effort.
Unfortunately there is going to be a lot of collateral damage to innocent men and boys if we don't use our hearts as well as our heads. We can’t afford to approach this with the mob mindset that may already be brewing. Already the process to adopt involves incredibly invasive practices, fingerprinting, state, and local and FBI checks. Psychological and psychiatric testing, references who are then requested to provide yet more names for other references. This creates a process that involves months and sometimes years while a kid sits in a hellish institution waiting for someone who will offer them a home.
I have no answers for this mess. I do have great concern that well intentioned people will be denied the chance to do good. Equally many kids will be denied the attention and affection they desperately need and want.
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11-26-2011, 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Mitja The Hippie
sometimes i'm ashamed to be human
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I think you don`t need to feel in that way,that is part of human nature. |
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12-06-2011, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Skip
Would you prefer I start a thread entitled "Was Michael Jackson a Child Molester, with a poll?"
What you folks don't understand is that many child abusers are JUST LIKE MICHAEL JACKSON. They profess they "love" children, and treat them royally. That should be the red flag right there. Treating a kid like someone they're IN LOVE with, rather than just a kid.
Instead of seeing it for what it really is, pederasty, fans of Michael Jackson, just like fans of Penn State Football team, don't want to face reality.
Any male adult who spends so much time with kids, especially of one sex and one age group, and has no legitimate need to be with them, and spends money on them lavishly (more than their own parents would), and Also has unsupervised SLEEPOVERS with kids at their house is very likely abusing those kids.
There is no other logical explanation for that behavior. Got it?
Guess what? Just like Michael Jackson, Jerry Sandusky has said how much he "loves kids", and even created a whole foundation that would bring them to him. Michael Jackson also created a foundation to help kids. And he also surrounded himself with those kids. Both had many sleepovers with kids.
Fans of Jacko are just like fans of Sandusky and Penn State, these popular figures can do no wrong! Their fame provides a certain immunity.
Do you want me to continue to draw parallels for you? Continue to connect the dots that should be obvious to all?
Don't you realize that your reactions to my naming Michael Jackson is what enabled him (just like Sandusky), to continue abusing kids?
Oh, no, not Jacko! He LOVED kids, he would NEVER harm them! Welcome to Cognitive Dissonance, people.
See you still don't get it. Of course he never "harmed" kids. At least in his own mind, he never did.
As far as I'm concerned any kid who ended up alone with Michael Jackson is scarred for life, even if Michael never laid a hand on him. Michael was a weirdo all right, and his true nature should be apparent.
On the other hand, I'm sure his charities did do a LOT OF GOOD, as did Sandusky's. And if you really want to be fair, and not a lynch mob, you should balance the good with the bad (as you would for anyone).
And so Michael Jackson's overall ledger is far on the GOOD side, imo. It's not like he MURDERED anyone, which imo, is far worse than touching a child. Sandusky didn't murder anyone as far as we know either.
Unfortunately, today's society is incapable of rendering a fair verdict on a child molester since they are viewed as WORSE than a murderer, in fact it's probably the most despicable crime, and the public can't see shades of gray when it comes to it.
In fact I don't think society can differentiate between someone who molests a child and someone who molests a child and then kills them. There is no difference in the public's eye.
That is why ppl refuse to admit what Michael Jackson really is. Because that would make him the perp of the most despicable crime in our society. Again no gray area for Michael to hide in...
And for those of you who think that someone who has kids of their own (like Jacko and Sandusky do), would not be a child molester, you need to THINK AGAIN! Most molestations are done by family members.
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no, i don't need a poll thanks Skip... i just happen to feel that MJ was not a child molester... he may have loved children, but i think it was in the heart sense, not the groin... i'm not a great fan of his, i just don't think he was ever guilty of molesting children... |
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12-06-2011, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by lillallyloukins
no, i don't need a poll thanks Skip... i just happen to feel that MJ was not a child molester... he may have loved children, but i think it was in the heart sense, not the groin... i'm not a great fan of his, i just don't think he was ever guilty of molesting children...
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And here is that thread... It's been going for quite awhile.
http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/s...d.php?t=439373 |
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