jo_k_er_man

4 pages.. No comparisons to Hitler.. Disappointing thread disappoints

porkstock41

i haven't read the bill or law, so i'm ignorant.

is there anything that says that insurance prices have to be "fair," since now everyone is apparently forced to buy health insurance?

i guess i should just read it..


my question is, does this health care law REALLY fix the system? or is the medical community going to remain "inflated" and over-priced? (the difference now being that you either buy coverage, or get taxed)

i'm not saying i'm against that. i think i like the idea behind this, but am too uninformed to really know.

Karen_J 

There is a requirement that insurance companies have to pay a certain minimum percentage of their income on paying out benefits to customers. In the past, they could use an unlimited amount for salaries and profits. This change will hold prices down. Also, much money will be saved in the long run because of poor people without insurance no longer waiting to seek medical care until they get extremely sick. In the past, these costs have been passed along to the rest of us, one way or another.

This isn't a perfect bill, but it is a HUGE step in the right direction. Remember, many changes had to be made to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid over the years, as we learned from experience. Changes will be made to ObamaCare too, after people have lived with it for a few years. Every other wealthy nation has gone through this learning process.

I'm in a mood to really celebrate this victory, because there is so little good news these days.



I didn't celebrate when the bill passed, because I really thought that the Supreme Court was going to overturn it. I have to give props to Chief Justice John Roberts, for doing the job he swore an oath to do rather than do whatever he thought would make his powerful friends happy. That's so rare in politics today.

porkstock41

thanks, karen.

SapphireNeptune

"Obamacare" is an atrocious piece of legislation........................




that actually slightly improves our health care system. That's how bad our health care system is, a terrible bill actually improves it.

NepKire

This bill changes nothing for me. And pretty much everyone else. I have NEVER been turned away from a walk in clinic when I went to get a check up. I just walk right in....funny I have no insurance at all and still get my check ups for free(well i dont pay). My credit sucks but that has not stopped me from doing anything my wealth level allows. I make about $10/hr with my work, that a little above min wage.

The health care this bill will provide is so restricted that it wont be any different. It only forces people to pay money they do not have.

This bill FORCES me to pay money I would not have had to pay.

To the people that bitch about me not paying the bills STFU, complain to your crappy doctor about his fees being to much for the inadequate job he does. Most doctors are not worth the bill they give, and those are the ones insurance/pharmaceutical companies will keep in business. Then tell your health insureance to have lower premiums and better coverage or you will drop them. If everyone did that and stood up for themselves we wouldnt have bullies pushing us around. I live in Washington state and insurance companies have to pay out here by law, but they still dont and if they do its YEARS later, like 2-3 or more and it wont even cover the past bills you had to pay while paying you premium. I know from personal experience, multiple times.

Countries with health care like this OBAMACARE do live longer but it isnt because of the medical help they get. Its the living quality that comes from everything but a government's fake health care plan. Look farther than your nose and you will see this health plan is bogus.

 eggsprog

you realize that by not paying your bills, it just gets covered with tax dollars anyway? this way it forces you to pay your fair share instead of making others pay it for you.

indydude

Is Obomacare going to cover costs besides doctor visits? Like tests and prescription costs? Doctors visits are one thing but the truly high costs are meds and scans and blood tests. One doctor tried to charge me $750. for a urinaylsis test. THats nuts!

pensfan13

i get a health insurance plan with my job so this wont affect me a whole lot. but if i didnt have health insurance...i am making just barely over the limit where people dont have to pay for insurance. but since i have to pay insurance i will actually have less spending money then the people that are considered so poor that they cant afford it. it would actually be beneficial for me to take an extra half a day off work each week to stay under the poverty threshold. for how many reasons is this tax increase bad, let me count the ways. this will keep the people dependent on government right where they are still dependent on them. but now it will increase the amount of people dependent on the government.
sorry if i dont reply to any comments about this, i am done with the topic. i will just sit back and wait to see what else the government forces me to buy, and says its for my own good.

 eggsprog

what will they force on you next? air bags? seat belts? healthcare? where will it end!?!?