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#1 stewpadasso

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Posted April 20 2005 - 02:32 AM

I have recently aquired a Phototron and I'm going to try to grow some White Widow in it.Does anyone here have any experience with the Phototron?

#2 tiedye420

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Posted April 20 2005 - 06:56 AM

Yeah I have one.
been using them over 10 years.
If you only want one plant ina little corner they are perfect.
Mine is in storage because i need new bulbs for it. I might get them soon I have a prized mom i would like to put in it.
Are you going to use the stock phototron formula ?
I use potting soil in mine- I was very careful how i watered them because there is no drainage. They work better with a pc fan in the top -to draw air out through the top ,, which brings cool air up from underneath, where the leaves need the carbon most. Better to grow an indica dom in a phototron, They make flowering and veg bulbs for the hanging fixture. I never tried those yet- Im going to get both when i order new flouro's for it.
And a lot of people talk real bad about phototrons, most of the people who do have never ran one right, or are interested in more commercial gains.
IMHO A phototron is cool for a hobby grower,, easy to stick in a corner and doesn't need a lot of space. You can get decent product fairly simple, for much cheaper than market value. Can't lose there.cheap on electric too.seems like it was about ten bucks a month to run on 18/6.
lemme know how the ww does in it eh.
hey i know a stu-padassho. Your brother maybe?
Later dude
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#3 stewpadasso

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Posted April 23 2005 - 06:01 AM

Thanxx 4 the reply Tiedye420.I got my Phototron off of Ebay.I have seen them advertised for years and was always curious about them.Its a Phototron2.Not sure how old it is but it seems to be in good condition.Being that it is used I'm wondering if it has the right bulbs in it.I was at my local "Lowes" store and I seen that they have different kind of "U Bulbs".Are there certain types of bulbs for the Phototron?I want to make sure I have the right bulbs going into this project.What do you mean by stock phototron formula ?Is this nutrients or soil?I put potting soil in mine for now.I have 3 plants going right now in it while I am waiting for my W.W. seeds to arrive.Is it best just to stick to 1 plant?I want to make sure I have a female in the Tron B4 I decide on one plant.Do you have any advice on this?I will hook a PC fan on to mine like you said.Can you just use the power output for the top grow light to hook the fan up?Does a PC fan run on standard 110?I know I have a lot of questions I hope you dont mind.As far as watering goes.How often do you water them?Do you use a spray bottle or a watering can or both?I know they say that using a high pressure sodium bulb will give better yields but I'm only looking for enough for my head and my wifes head.The pot you grew in your phototron...did it turn out good with high potency?Well I guess that is enough questions for you for now.Thanks for the help.I will have to check my family tree on this stu-padassho.LOL.Peace.

#4 tiedye420

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Posted April 23 2005 - 12:01 PM

go to the phototron website for bulbs
mine is a 2 also
the formula was 4 like hydro or coco choir i think.never used it myself.
id grow 3 to five at first- sex them and keep the branchiest female early, like 3 -5 weeks turn it to 12/12for sexing them.andjust keep the best- move the rest outside somewhere.
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Posted April 27 2005 - 08:01 PM

I laid aluminum foil down on the soil hoping to reflect more light.I also started in with a 15-30-15 Miracle grow formula (Wal-Mart Special)They are starting to responded after just one day.I have also 6 seedlings under a floro shop light with the same formula.As far as I can tell the phototron kicks ass compared to the Floro shop light.Time will tell.I have not started with the W.W. seeds yet.I think I want to let my first experimental grow be the bag weed seeds.Then collect data and then start the White Honeys.I am also thinking bout experimenting with a H.P.S.Don't know yet but damn growing is fun.Will keep this thread posted on my progress.Pics to come.Lets here from some of the viewers.Damn I'm gonna feel like shit at work 2morrow!

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Posted April 28 2005 - 08:02 AM

sounds like you got it dialed.
i'll be back to peek at the pics bro.
good luck- you got me wanting to revive mine for a special mom ,or testing cuts by budding as few real small ones in there..
later
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#7 stewpadasso

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Posted April 29 2005 - 06:39 AM

Come on Tiedye420.Break out the Tron for the mother.It will make your life all that more interesting.

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Posted April 29 2005 - 01:04 PM

she is in sunshine now, probably by the end of summerI will, but my electric bill for a travel trailer is already over 200 a month.. ouch.
worth it ,though we are scraping by right now.
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#9 stewpadasso

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Posted April 29 2005 - 04:44 PM

Well here are some pics at about 2 weeks progress.The three plants in the Phototron are doing well.Kinda slow growing I think but they have been transplanted 3 times till they got in thier resting places.The tempature here sucks so my growrooms average temp is around a chilly 50 degrees and sometimes colder.The weather was nice till I put the phototron in the attic.: ( The plants I have under the shop Floro suck ass pretty much.They are getting long and strigy as you can see in the pic.I have a cool and a warm light in the shop fixture but life does not look good under it.It may be to blame for the tempature.I have the light about 6-7 inches above them.Don't know if that is good or not.Well wanted to post pics.

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Posted April 30 2005 - 08:05 AM

the ones in the tron look real nice

about that flourecent fixture you have though.
the bulbs themselves need to be between 2 &4 inches away.
to keep it about 2 inches away is best. but no closer.
they should perk up fine.
good luck hope it helps.
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#11 stewpadasso

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Posted May 28 2005 - 08:27 PM

Well here are some pics of the Phototron plants at 6 weeks old.I have given up hope on the Attic growroom today.The temperature is just to damn cold going down to the high 30s at night and high ranging from 70-90.It seems to harsh for growing conditions.Can anyone give me any advice on these temps?I'm afraid that once it warms up here that the highs could go into the 100s during the day.Anyhow I have found a new indoor home at a friends house that seems to have an average temp of 70 degrees F.I have put a small fan at the bottom outside of the Phototron and have it blowing air into the Tron up and under the leaves.I'm hoping for better results at the Phototron's new home.Although the temps that they have been challenged in I don't think they look to bad (Maybe slow growing but I blame the enviroment).I have some yellowish brown spots forming on the leaves and am wondering what they represent.I wonder if the plants have been getting to much Nitrogen.I have been using the plant spikes and Miracle grow formula at full strength.I have been studying up today and have just realized not to feed them fert every watering so I am gonna back off with some pure water for the next couple waterings and alternate with and without as I go at 1/2 strength.I am going to wait till the plants reach the top of the Tron B4 I go 12/12 and hope for the best flowering.I have been thinking bout a 400watt High Pressure Sodium setup for flowering but am curious to see what the phototron can do on a complete cycle crop.What do you think Tiedye?I am also thinking on ordering some good Ferts.Ok I am gonna read up a bunch more and will post results again soon.Let me hear what you guys think.Thanks.

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Posted May 29 2005 - 04:22 AM

I am going to wait till the plants reach the top of the Tron B4 I go 12/12

...you do know those plants will double, if not triple in size once you initiate 12/12......where do you plan to go with that new growth?..;)
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#13 stewpadasso

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Posted May 29 2005 - 07:50 AM

No I did not know that grouchy.Wow I guess I would need an 2nd floor addition for my Tron.Would you recommend going 12/12 right now?I really though the vegetative growth stopped and the flowers came only on 12/12.Since my plants are only 6-8" tall I think I want to wait one more week now that the Tron is in a controlled enviroment to get some real growth.I have about 26" to the top so if the plants double in size in the 12/12 period I should be fine.Thanks for the tip and anymore advice would be great.

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Posted May 30 2005 - 04:05 PM

Can anyone give any ideas from experience on what nutrients to use for the flowering period.I know that backing off the Nitrogen is good but what is good after that?

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Posted May 31 2005 - 12:37 AM

I hate to break it to you, but a 'tron is just an expensive toy. No ventilation, no drainage.
For $300.00 you could have bought a wardrobe (free-standing closet) or used an existing closet, provided ventilation, stuck a 400-watt HPS in there and grown a pound of phat sticky buds per crop.

I had a 'tron. It was my first indoor grow and the results were so poor (less than an ounce of light airy buds instead of dense nuggs) I gave up an indoor growing until a friend pointed me in the right direction.

I gave the 'tron away to a friend, he tried one crop with the same results.
This thing got passed around and last time I heard in was in the corner of someone's garage, gathering dust.

If you're serious about growing, get a REAL set-up.
If you willing to settle for low yield low-potency buds, a 'tron is fine.

P.S. I've heard that 'ton's are good for rooting clones.

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Posted June 25 2005 - 03:22 AM

Well say what you want bout the Tron.I have heard all this B4 in other posts.So far I am having fun with my tron.2 of the 3 plants turned out to be male so I chopped them.The other has buds all over her and looks great.The ventelation in the tron is great if you just lift up one of the panels a few inches and put a small face fan outside of the open panel.Like I said so far I am having fun so thats all that matters,I'm not out to sell my weed.Just want some smoke for the head.

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Posted June 25 2005 - 05:08 AM

Growing in a closet is fun too, but the end results are sooo much better.

#18 stewpadasso

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Posted June 25 2005 - 05:25 PM

I'm sure it is but right now I don't have that option.The Tron produces no heat and the electric bill is much cheaper.So right now untill I have that option I will tronastone myself.

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Posted July 02 2005 - 09:08 PM

Well here we are about 4 weeks into 12/12 with my phototron sweetie.So far she looks pretty cool.Stacking buds.Any feedback would be cool.

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Posted July 03 2005 - 12:15 PM

Stewpadasso, your gal looks a little sparse, but healthy. Congrats! FYI, I have had great success with a liquid concentrated nutrient called Flora Nova Bloom from General Hydro. As of Tuesday, a plant I have will have been in 12/12 for 4 weeks and she is showing 3-4 times the buds as the 1 in your pics. I don't know if the difference is related to nutrients, grow climate (I've a closet set-up) or just genes.
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Posted July 03 2005 - 08:20 PM

Cool man.Lets see some pics.

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Posted July 03 2005 - 08:35 PM

nice dude, but i have sum plants that are 3 weeks into flowering and they have double if not tripple the bud sites and size is way more bigger, and i am only running 1 250 watt hps........b_O420
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Posted July 04 2005 - 07:05 AM

Cool man.Lets see some pics.


Tomorrow will be 4 weeks at 12/12.Posted ImagePosted Image
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Posted July 04 2005 - 07:09 AM

oh my sweet jesus, my plant is going to look something like that i beleive.....the way i am tying it down i shoudl see a couple oz's from her........b_O420
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Posted July 04 2005 - 07:27 AM

Wow very nice Smileyjohn!Did you use a HPS for the veg state also?Is where your plant is sitting the place where you grow her?I'm just curious because this looks like a full room.I'm wondering how you ventilate a closet set-up.Do you have incoming fresh air coming into your closet or just a fan blowing the air around?

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Posted July 04 2005 - 08:46 AM

Thanks stewpadasso! She vegged under fluorescents 24/0 first. I had to move her out from the grow closet to take the pics because of the bright light. The closets are in a room that is part of a garage that is half underground. Every morning, I open all the windows and doors (except the car entry door) in the garage / basement for cross-ventilation. Fans on timers keep the air moving when everything is closed up for the night. During the winter the fans just stay on.
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Posted July 04 2005 - 02:06 PM

Very nice.That is a beauty you got there.Quick ? if I can.When you open all the windows do you open up the grow closet also to let the air in?I was thinking that you had to add an air intake and exhaust fan to a closet setup.Like two different air vent fans with duct work like dryer hose or tin ducting?One pushing air in from outside the closet and one pushing the old air out.Am I getting to carried away with my closet idea setup?

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Posted July 05 2005 - 11:18 AM

no your not getting too carried away thats the proper way to set up a grow room, but i personally grow out of my closet n i just leave my door open ALWAYS!!!! b_O420
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Posted July 06 2005 - 06:12 AM

I do the same as b_O420 and just leave the closet doors open. Even though venting would be best, I am too lazy and unskilled to make it happen. Beside, even with doors & windows closed I get good circulation with fans because my house is not air tight.
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Posted July 06 2005 - 08:52 AM

same here........i am think ing baout puttin two vents in so i can have company in my room.........
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