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#1 paintballer687

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Posted April 11 2005 - 08:09 PM

Hey, I'm new and lately I've had to quit smoking bud so I've turned to psychedelics. I've done shrooms, amanitas, morning glory seeds, hawaiian baby woodrose seeds, ecstasy, kratom, and salvia. I'm looking for something legal that I can trip off of. I've been thinking about Sinicuichi, Syrian Rue, and Peruvian Torch cactus but I can't seem to find much info on these things. If anyone has any info on those three or can recommend any other legal substances that I can trip on then please post it, it'll be much appreciated.
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Posted April 11 2005 - 09:26 PM

erowid.com will rock your face off with info.

You didn't trip on any of those?
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Posted April 12 2005 - 02:26 PM

No, I've tripped on all of them, but I'm still looking for something new. Out of all of those, the only ones I really liked were the shrooms, amanitas, kratom, and ecstasy. I've taken a peek at erowid and it is without a doubt the best site I've ever seen, but I decided to post here because I wanted to get human input and human experiences and preferences, and hopefully a list of substances that can be aquired legally that will actually make you trip. I've crossed off the Syrian Rue and Ayuhuasca combo, but am very interested in Sinicuichi and Peruvian Torch or San Pedro cactus.

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Posted April 18 2005 - 09:40 AM

Woah! Hold up! How do you use morning glory seeds to get high? For real? Like the kind you can just pick up in any garden shop? I have some I was going to plant. I just can't afford the soil yet so I haven't planted anything. I just bought seeds for purple flowers ebcause I like purple. With the exception of my "special friends" (poppies).

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Posted April 19 2005 - 11:54 AM

You need a lot of them, like 300 seeds, then take a coffee grinder or something and grind 'em up and eat 'em. Tastes nasty though...
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Posted May 08 2005 - 02:27 PM

can u just eat the mg's plain after you grind them or do you have to soak them in alcohol, then filter out the mg mush, then drink the alcohol?
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Posted May 09 2005 - 07:56 AM

wtf is up with you guys and morning glories, half this forum is morning glories! i get it you can trip off of them!

As for the origional poster, try some mimosa hostilis rootbark (available online or at some wiccian shops) and some syrian rue.
Look for a good recipe on erowid.
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Posted May 24 2005 - 08:13 PM

I would be careful about the morning glory seeds, unless I bought them from someone who sold other seeds to get high. I have heard that the seeds are coated with chemicals so that you get sick. Is this an old wives tale?

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Posted May 24 2005 - 09:24 PM

No, it's true. Not all seeds are coated though, and if they are, all you need to do is soak the seeds overnight and then squeeze them out of their shells.
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Posted May 25 2005 - 10:41 AM

the only realy fully legal stuff to trip off is salvia & fly agaric - most others like shrooms, mimosa r sorta grey area - containing class A & so actually using /processing isn't legal.
If ur in2 trips *& haven't tryed salvia yet then that's the 1 4 u - smoking the propa stuff is fuckin rocket fuel! chew leafs 4 a longer mellow mild trips

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Posted May 25 2005 - 10:57 AM

Oh fuckcunt! I 4got 1 - datura - that will really mak u trip - makes even salvia look mild - b carful with it tho - try somoking a joint of it work ur dose up slow - mild & mellow with just a bit but a full dose like making t with it is FUCKSTRONG so b well careful

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Posted May 31 2005 - 09:54 AM

Oh fuckcunt! I 4got 1 - datura - that will really mak u trip - makes even salvia look mild - b carful with it tho - try somoking a joint of it work ur dose up slow - mild & mellow with just a bit but a full dose like making t with it is FUCKSTRONG so b well careful

yeah i woudnt do datura,i ended up talking to a fucking wall for hours and the shit talked back to and that was just a mild dose wasnt fun at all
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Posted June 13 2005 - 08:56 PM

I don't know if anyone has said this but my friends did nutmeg and they tripped off that..
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Posted June 18 2005 - 01:20 PM

Yeah nugmeg works too

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Posted June 20 2005 - 12:37 PM

Try some Yopo seeds or something. Theres many many different still legal plants which contain halluciogenic substances.

http://www.iamshaman...op/10Browse.asp

BTW: Do not do dautra. You might aswell eat battery acid.
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Posted June 23 2005 - 08:20 PM

Battery acid? AWESOME! How much should I drink?

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Posted June 23 2005 - 09:23 PM

what did you and the wall talk about?

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Posted June 27 2005 - 12:19 AM

Check www.ayahuasca.com and www.spiritplants.org

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Posted June 27 2005 - 12:21 AM

Datura is very dangerous. Fatal accidents are reported.

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Posted June 27 2005 - 12:23 AM

in Europe are legal the fresh fungi.

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Posted August 04 2005 - 08:45 AM

Dextromethorphan is legal, and I know everyone knows you can get high as fuck off cough medicine. Here's a little ad of what I use frequently. http://www.coricidin...rodinfo_cc.html. About 8 tablets will mess you up but you can add a couple if the feel isn't as good as you want it to be. Not a plant though...sorry I should move this, lol.
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Posted May 24 2006 - 03:00 AM

yeah datura wouldnt really be a fun or worhtwhile thing to do.. maybe if we were shamans or something we could find something useful and insightful in them, but basically they are just gonna make you delusional, and thats not helping anyone is it.
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Posted May 24 2006 - 03:11 AM

SHIT i hate it when i do that, not look at the date of the thread and bring back some fucking 14567 year old thread. sorry
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Posted May 27 2006 - 12:37 PM

I'm in no way shape or form a psychedelic expert because the only drugs I've done are weed, alcohol, and...nutmeg. But in a high dosage nutmeg can give you an absolutely insane trip. I read about it and decided to try and ate 12 grams of the shit around 6pm. By 8pm I'm feeling stoned, 9pm I am playing basketball in the driveway with no ball, 11pm watch chronicles of narnia and can't handle the colors and movement so I decide to sleep thinking it'll be gone by morning. Wrong. I wake up and go to church and there are flowers everywhere. Everything is covered in flowers. I feel extremely lightheaded and sick in the middle of church at 11:30 and go to the bathroom. The toilets, sinks, urnials, everything is covered in pink/yellow flowers. I nearly pass out but make it out of there and go home and go to sleep. Wake up at 1:30 after a nap and everythings fine. I'd recomend it if you're looking for something new. However my friend did the same amount and he didnt trip quite as hard but did have mild hallucinations.

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Posted August 20 2006 - 11:05 PM

PLEASE DONT DO NUTMEG, read about it on wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutmeg, it's really, really bad stuff that can cause psychosis and psychological damage for years, if you feel like you want to take that chance then i wont say any more, just wanted to warn you all

#26 trippedelia

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Posted August 21 2006 - 03:37 AM

i dont really think its that big of an issue
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Posted September 02 2006 - 09:20 PM

Hmm... Depends on what are you into.
There are 3 different basic classes of Hallucinagenic drugs, Deliriants, Dissassociatives, and Psychedelics.

Deliriants (or anticholorigenics) are the most dangerous, they are sometimes called true hallucinagens, because they actually make you believe your hallucinations are real, along with causing amnesia (sometimes you forget you took it), and sleepiness. Unlike Dissassociatives, and other psychedelics, these hallucinations can interact with you, and even hurt you. Deleriants by definition are highly toxic, and many of them are legal. Read some trips on erowid, and you'll understand what I mean.
They are:
-Antihistamines (Benadryl, Dramamine, Sominex, Singlet)
-Datura, Mandrake, Belladonna, and Henbane and related plants (contain tropane alkaloids)
-Nutmeg (I'm not sure if it's actually a deliriant, it certainly isn't as toxic as the others)

I should point out that many people enjoy deliriants (especially ones like henbane)... but be aware that they are dangerous. Small doses of henbane before going to sleep causes a vivid lucid dream / hallucinagenic state.

Dissassociatives are like Ketamine, DXM, and PCP. Their effect could perhaps be described as the opposite of drugs like LSD. Dissassociatives work by shutting down various parts of the brain... Where psychedelics add to the world, dissassociatives subtract and take away.
Legal dissassociatives are:
-Nitrous Oxide
-Salvia Divornum
-Amanitas (Musicimol)
-Dextromethorphan (DXM)

Psychedelics probably don't need any explaination. Legal ones include
-Hawaiian Baby Woodrose (MUCH more potenant than morning glories, feels like LSD but more sedating)
-San Pedro (probably the best of the legal cacti. Contains mescalin which many consider to be a superior psychedelic to LSD, DMT and psilocybin... however they are probably the most expensive legal high, and relative hard to prepare)
-DMT contianing plants (you can either smoke/snort yopo, make ayahuasca [with syrian rue], or grow phalaris grass and extract the juice with a wheat grass juicer, then let the juice dry and smoke it)


Others... These mostly occure in the wild, and aren't schedualed because they are so mild. Most of these drugs are shitty unless you make an extract (or buy it in extract form). They are roughly in order from more potent to less potent
- Sinicuichi (great)
- Thujone (extracted from mugwort/wormwood, used in hallucinagenic Absinthe Drink)
- Sassafras (contains Safrole, a non-amine precursor of MDA)
- Voacanga africana (contains iboga alkaloids)
- Kavalactone (active material in Kava Kava, take alot of it)
- Juniper (Deliriant)
- Madagascar Periwinkle (Euphoria and hallucinations, improves mental
ability in cerebrovascular disorders)
- Shansi (very rare and little is known about it)
- So'ksi (very rare and little is known about it)
- Puffballs (very rare and little is known about it)
- Skullcap (hard to find, but supposed there is a very potent strain out there which is awesome)
- Yage / Syrian Rue (contains harmala alkaloids)
- Calamus (contains Arason and Beta-Arason, which can be purchased online)
- Khat (illegal I believem but not sure)
- Calea (need to smoke over an ounce)
- intoxicating mint (don't count on it)
- Parsley (i have no idea how good this is, i'm guessing it sucks ass)
- Wild Fennel (hallucinations and epileptic seizures!! sweet!)

There are also a variety of mild herbal highs, which won't make you trip... just make sure you buy the other ones first. I'm not saying that these drugs are bad or useless, just that they aren't comparable with the other drugs i've mentioned.
- Broom (relaxation followed by increased alterness, and brighter colors)
- Cabeza De Angel (hypnotic)
- Prickly Poppy / California Poppy / Chicalote D(mild opium like effects, without tolerance/addiction)
- Dagga (great drug in extract form, not hallucinagenic however)
- Kanna (again, great drug in extract form, but not hallucinagenic)
- Damania (aphrodisiac)
- Hops (marijuana relative)
- Colorines (hallucinagenic but very toxic)
- Heliotrope (sedative)
- Hydrangea (toxic, but similiar to marijuana)
- Indian Snakeroot (Lowers blood pressure, tranquilizes mind without causing stupor and ataxia. Effects are delayed for several days to several weeks because reserpine [active chemical] must be converted in the body into secondary
substances.)
- Kuthimithi
- Lobella (When smoked, produces mild marijuana-like euphoria and
improves mental clarity. Tea acts simultaneously as a stimulant and
relaxant.)
- Wild Lettuce (retarded)
- Catnip (retarded)
- Yohimbe (viagra, plus a stimulating effect, and sensations are enhanced)


Sorry if I explained too much, I figured it was better than explaining too litle :)

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Posted September 03 2006 - 05:22 AM

"hallucinations and epileptic seizures!! sweet!"
haha i dont understand the shit people do to sometimes feel different.
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#29 gajimok

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Posted September 16 2006 - 04:58 PM

Peruvian Torch cactus is the way to go man. Not only is it legal to get, and fairly easy to prepare, but it's a better high than even the best illegal substances, such as LSD. Mescaline rocks. Plain and simple.

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Posted October 04 2006 - 02:41 PM

My vote is probably Hawaiian baby woodrose, or DMT containing plants. After that probably sinicuichi, wormwood extract, kavalactone, and skullcap (if you can find it).

For non-psychedelic legal highs: Kratom takes the gold. Hands down.

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fuck that shit man...when i was 15 i ate a whole marijuana plant and stayed high for 10 days! ha..

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