Theory Predicts Universe May Have Existed Forever

None of them still have any clue whatsoever as to what gravity is.

When someone finally works that out, I suspect everything else will fall into place

I also suspect the answer would have to be something way out in left field, which is why we havent even had a little sniff of the clue. Maybe even something we might find impossible to accept

 

So, even if singularities in fact do occur in nature, it's good that we don't believe in them because they're unpredictable?

So because some mysteries have been solved, we are to believe that there are no unsolvable mysteries? And that any alternative to an unsolvable mystery must be correct? Sorry, I don't follow.

 

Warning!

3tags.org is an advertising firm, who hires content creators.

Notice all the ads and how there are no links to the scientific articles? And how generally rambling the article is?

There were over 30 advertising links on that single page, and was clearly not written by a cosmologist.

 

Oh there's a /new/ theory about the origins of the universe.
How cute.

 

It looks like this paper actually came out in February last year.

This is an article from a physics website about it:

http://phys.org/news/2015-02-big-quantum-equation-universe.html

And this is the source article, which contains a lot of maths!

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0370269314009381

 

Bohmian physics are merely hanging on by a thread and, like Quantum Loop Gravity, are merely thought of by many as merely a necessary train of thought to pursue theoretically to see if it can provide insight into a more viable theory. In fact, Loop Gravity was invented knowing perfectly well its very likely wrong, but one of the more interesting ways of exploring the issue that should produce fundamental insights.

 

How do they account for the second law of thermodynamics (entropy) or the proton decay?



Hotwater

 

The second law of thermodynamics has proven to be violated the smaller anything becomes. The energy can't be used to produce any useful work, but you can watch Humpty Dumpty put himself back together again because information is not limited by causality.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q5mlb3Bjzs

 

Stuff happens because of being being what it is and it always has happened that way because if it were possible for it to ever stop doing that it would have by now so we wouldn't be talking about it and it always will for the same reason. That's my theory. lol

 

I do believe in this theory, and that there is no end or beginning.

 

Its all Bollox anyway :scholar:

 

lol

 

I forget the name of the comedian, and I don't remember the joke word for word but here is about what he said in an SNL opening monologue:


Let me solve the problem once and for all about which came first, the chicken or the egg. The egg did, because chickens always come from eggs.

Now you might ask, 'where did that egg come from?' Well----it came from another chicken---but that doesn't matter!!

 

Just a bit longer than an eternity.

 

Well it's a bit like waiting for the next bus to turn up

 

Yes, Einstein gave us space-time as a way of replacing the old aether, but is it more concept, mathematically defined, than substance---just like singularity and nothingness? The paper that started this thread did not use the geodesic math of Einstein’s space-time.

But we have the zero-point energy field that really is the universe that could very well be this aether. For example, the God Theory (which is a really bad name for it, I think) replaced inertia in Newton’s Law of Motion, with light (f = ma replacing light for m) and the two scientists that did this found it to be very predictive---the implications being that everything is light and that inertia may very well arise from the zero-point energy field, i.e. the decoherence that results in particles or mass, occurs through the zero-point energy field. One implication of this, I believe is that absolute nothingness exists outside the universe, and if we ever tried to leave the universe, we would immediately disintegrate at the edge, and dissipate back into the universe as the left over photons.

But Quantum Mechanics does raise a problem here---the wave-field and the superpositioned reality it represents is still so strange that scientists have a hard time with it----is it a wave that is a field, or a field that is a wave, or a wave-field that is neither? If it is superpositioned it is everywhere already---every place, every time. Consider an electron in a superpositioned state, for example. It is all over the universe and potentially could appear anywhere---in fact, the Quantum Information of an encoded probability determines where it probably will appear. But until then, it is everywhere as a wave-field.

If it is everywhere then how can it be a wave? Though a wave itself is everywhere---no beginning, no end, continuous through time and space. The problem is that if a superposition is everywhere, would this not also mean that it, in terms of a wave, is also at the peak, when it should be at the trough, and every point in between. This becomes even more complicated if we see it as propagating through a medium---a substance. And yet, we know it’s a wave. We measure its frequency, and its wavelength. And such things determine how it creates the phenomena of reality, color, heat, etc.

Consider a radio transmission as a metaphor. A radio tower sends out a radio transmission---waves spreading out in every direction from the tower. If we were to think in terms of particles, these radio waves are electrons (lets ignore the EMR photon for a bit for this metaphor), which is why we use a metal wire---an antenna---to receive them. Technically we could say that at any infinite point in the universe we can pick up those electrons with our antenna. In a practical sense, if we are only 40 or 50 miles or so away from the antenna (for a typical broadcast) the ‘electrons’ start to become too weak to pick up for a clear broadcast. Or, we could say that the probability for an electron to appear as a particle drops too low to receive a viable transmission. A single electron may appear on the other side of the universe, now and again, due to quantum uncertainty, but to pick up anything meaningful of the broadcast out there has an almost infinitely small probability.

So let’s focus on the 50 miles or so within the area surrounding the radio tower. No matter where you are, within 50 miles of the tower, as long as you are above ground, electrons from that tower will stream down your antenna. You could be 50 miles or less somewhere in the sky above the tower, and have this happen, or on the ground, or anywhere in between, from any direction. If we were to think that this 50 mile deep half globe of radio waves above and along the surface of the earth was packed with electrons generated by this tower, all vibrating in a wave form, and then if we also account for all the electrons beyond that as well as they thin out to the random ones at the ends of the universe, imagine how much power this tower would require to make that happen. And the minute someone or something even appeared on the ground, it would surely arc and in a single massive spark, all those electrons would complete a circuit back into the earth. So this wave-field of electron energy is not manifesting as actual electrons moving through a medium. An electron is a physical thing because it has a physical presence, but clearly it is not a physically present thing everywhere in this transmission.

The fact that we can have the antenna anywhere tells us that, if it is not an electron, it is a field. This makes sense because we can then be anywhere within that field and have electrons stream down our antenna. The further we move away, the weaker or ‘thinner’ the field becomes. But there is a problem---if we change the frequency even just a bit that the antenna is receiving, we lose the transmission. Then there is the problem that if this was a short wave transmission, for example, we could extend the 50 mile coverage by bouncing it off of the atmosphere enabling it to stretch further around the curvature of the earth. If the field is propagating through a physical aether, than it is hard to conceive of it as vibrating, because we can already see that the field ‘saturates’ the aether. Then to try to account for the short waves bouncing off the atmosphere, that even makes it more complicated to define as a field.

So rather than a field, it must be a wave propagating through the aether. But a wave of what? because it can’t be, as we have already seen, a wave of electrons---they cannot be electrons until they somehow appear on the antenna. (Ok the photon is the carrier of electromagnetic radiation but let’s not add that to the metaphor yet.) And then, no matter how we position the antenna and at what location, we cannot find a position or even a motion that would be, even for a moment, out of sync with the wave. A boat for example, can sit in the waves on the water. It can move and still ride the waves up and down. But once it moves faster than the waves the ride becomes choppier as it starts to ride peak to peak on the waves. But an antenna can never do that. It can only move out of range to where the wave gets weaker and weaker. Then we can also add that there are a myriad other radio transmissions as well, each having the same property, except that most are of a different frequency, and those that are of the same frequency are further away and therefore weak. And each transmission is not a simple radio wave, but carries a packet of information within it---more frequencies---such as a voice or music, digital code or a specific analog signal, and some maybe scrambled so that they can only be properly received by a specific receiver that will unscramble the frequencies---such as ham radio transmissions. And yet all of this, as waves which can bounce off the atmosphere if their short enough, and therefore could be viewed as directional, they all move and bounce together---yet they do not cancel each other out, or bounce off each other, or create a decoherence amongst themselves----so they can’t be waves---they must be fields.

But then, they are all propagating through the same medium----so how can all these fields saturate the same point within that medium, for that matter, even as waves, how could they saturate the same point. Now let’s take this analogy into quantum reality and state that every particle in the universe in this same manner, in its wave state saturates every point of this space-time aether. (Which is why I said to hold off on the photon because, we must ask is a superpostioned proton, neutron, or even electron a photon? Maybe as we shall see. )

Now let’s complicate this----if the zero-point energy field is the aether in question, then it too represents a wave-particle duality----in fact this is why random electrons appear in a vacuum and then disappear again (well, that and quantum uncertainty). Therefore---we could argue that this aether is itself propagating through the very same medium that is itself, saturating itself as everything else saturates it----not just radio waves and other electromagnetic radiation, including light, but also gravity, and every other single physical particle in the universe as it exists as a superpositioned wave. If the God Theory is correct, and everything is light, then everything, as light waves, saturates each point of space as I have said, otherwise all of space is saturated with not only with electromagnetic waves, but other waves as well

Now the wave itself (as frequency and wavelength) could be explained away with time. Therefore the field may exist everywhere in its superpositioned state, but we perceive it as having frequency and wavelength (i.e. as a wave) through the function of time. But then this implies that our only focus of perception is the present moment, which then leads to the further implication that only the present exists. This would still fit if we look at the magnetic side of the electromagnetic wave as displacement, but the movement side is simply time, or if time does not actually exist, the manifestation of the Present.

The concept of electro-magnetic wave as Movement – Displacement is fascinating. But if only the present exists, then the aether becomes simply the manifestation of the Present, and the electromagnetic wave would equate to a Positioning – Displacement. Then we could ask---is this displacement the actual quantum decoherence, i.e. the dynamic through which positions are determined which equates to the collapse of the probability wave into particles?

We then must ask---if only the present exists then what is the electromagnetic wave outside of the present? It seems that the singularity concept and the concept of nothingness have just become more than concepts. No matter where we look, if we are trapped within the singularity of the present, we will never find nothingness, because it is outside of the physical present---outside of physicality. It is not that nothingness is necessarily nothing, just that it is non-physical---and therefore from our physical perspective it is non-existent. But this singularity is different from the singularities discussed in the paper introduced in this thread. Whether we are using a geodesic calculation of space-time, or a different one, the singularity of the Big Bang is a different matter, and either model would still be compatible with the concept that the present is a singularity of physicality. The singularity of the present reflects the experience of reality at the speed of light—zero-space, zero-time. And the speed of light as universal constant is literally the speed of time.

Anyway---some stuff to play around with in mind games----the last 3 paragraphs were done with a mischievous trickster smile on this old hippie at this end of the computer screen---as I of course twisted the whole thing into my own philosophy of Archephenomenalism (not to debate it here---I wouldn’t want to hijack the thread in such a way) but to add to the thought-experiments (gedankenexperiment) that one could play with here.

 

That isn't what the tax payers and university funding establishments want to hear though. Much better to come up with new ideas to keep everyone happy.

You and I know might know the truth, but it hurts others.

 

According to quantum mechanics, forever can never be shorter than 10^-32cm which no women could ever appreciate or faster than 10^-27s. That's why every man insists that six inches is a foot and five minutes is an eternity.

 

^ 1 Planck length in centimeters? I only know it in inches...


The crazy thing about eliminating singularities is that we still have blackholes. And the laws of physics break down within the center of blackholes.

 

Nobody knows if the universe is alive. We really just make educated theories about when life began on this planet. An interesting way to answer such unknowable questions is answering "I don't know", and then drop the question. By doing this an open mind on the question is active. Our brains neurons and synapses are free to gather in unobstructed habitual thought patterns. Maybe there is no "definitive" answer, but the mind can form its viewpoint in an orderly-chaotic way. The question is now forgotten with endless satisfaction.