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#31 newbie-one

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Posted November 18 2016 - 06:53 PM

Move to a country where the government doesn't give women free money, and you suddenly become waaaaay more attractive.

 

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#32 Meliai

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Posted November 18 2016 - 08:23 PM

I don't get women.  I'm all about adventure.  I want to go ride the rails and shit, be a hobo.  Why are they so interested in money and possessions?  Don't they have any sense of drama?

 

oh come on dude. This is simple.

 

 some women are interested in money and possessions, as are some men.

 

Some women are interested in other things, as are some men.


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Posted November 18 2016 - 08:27 PM


Move to a country where the government doesn't give women free money, and you suddenly become waaaaay more attractive.

 

 

 

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Posted November 18 2016 - 09:53 PM

some women are interested in money and possessions,


My 30 year old girlfriend earns, $30 a week. (6x 10hr shifts)

I'm 60 and spend $600 when I'm here for a week.

I'm thinking most women (worldwide) would find a guy that can spend over 20x their wage fairly attractive.
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Posted November 19 2016 - 06:26 AM

Nevermind i dont feel like it

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Posted November 19 2016 - 06:35 AM

Don't they [women] have any sense of drama?

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Posted November 21 2016 - 02:34 PM

I don't get women.  I'm all about adventure.  I want to go ride the rails and shit, be a hobo.  Why are they so interested in money and possessions?

Hardwired biology it seems. Recent anthropological studies suggest, those which covered both third as well as "free" first world countries, where women have the same legal rights to work and own property, that money is still what the vast majority of women value most in a man. On the other hand, men did not list money as a deal-breaker. In other words, no matter where you lived, or what culture you were in, even in modern times, the mindset is still the same everywhere.

 

This is called hypergamy.

 

 

 

Don't they have any sense of drama?

What does William Shakespeare know about writing plays?

 

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Posted November 21 2016 - 03:36 PM

Meh.  I'm not overly interested in women anymore.  They just kind of seem like one dimensional biological zombies.  I am generalizing of course.  Back in the day I pretty much had a thing for all women.  Now most of them just seem hateful and shallow, superficial.  It's not interesting to me.


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Posted November 22 2016 - 12:06 PM

Some of the answers I got in this thread are truthful yet terribly depressing at the same time. Still, I'm getting a "sux doo0000000d" vibe. I will admit that in my younger years my thought process was swayed by feel-good movies where there's some sort of karmic balance in the universe that makes sure all the bad guys get theirs and the good guys get every single thing they wanted just for being... "the good guy". Though I learned this wasn't the case when I graduated high school as an invisible nobody and didn't hook up with the girl I was really crushing on.

What I'd give to make these good-looking users of oxygen a chance to feel like an ugly person for at least a day, so they get some perspective. I wish PSA's would just randomly come on TV to let people know about this stuff. I guess it doesn't help that I'm mildly socially retarded - granted I can still functions in front of other people, but I'm really not a social butterfly or even much of a talker altogether. Boy do I hate social relativity.

I can also relate to feeling like there will be a cosmic balance, for lack of better wording.. Recently, somewhat last year and in the beginning of this year, I was going through some tough things. And I thought that after those tough things were done and over with that life would get better. Of course, I didn't think things would magically get better, but you know how people believe that when something bad happens to you, you come out of it better? Well, that doesn't happen to me. Honestly, I think people are bullshitting themselves and others when they express things like that. But, whatever... I'm just applying it to myself. It doesn't happen to me, plain and simple. I just thought it would be like the movies. After a tragic event, I would come out of it stronger, smarter, and overall better. And I thought because of that, that through time and effort, as well as just plain luck, because isn't it my time to have some luck?... that life would get better. In particular I thought I would have a better relationship with my family and I thought that I would find love. However, that didn't happen, lol. Things actually got worse.

For one, I kept getting rejected, and I kid you not it was the most times I have ever been rejected in such a short period of time. I wasn't particularly looking, so that made it even more hurtful. And there was this one guy that was interested in me, but I had aboulate no interest in him. So, I felt like shit for that. Because there was this one guy that was interested in me, and I felt nothing. Thankfully, I found out later on that he was only interested because I wasn't. He was amazed that someone that looked like me wasn't interested in him, so he tried really hard to get me interested. So, it was actually a good thing that I wasn't interested. On top of all the rejection and misplaced attraction, things got worse with my family. Also, I ended up in the hospital. I had two major falling outs with two people, which I have no idea what the fuck happen there. It was just not something I needed to happen at that already horrible time in my life. And I had to deal with some harassment, to the point I considered the police. And when I tried the police the first time they totally blew me off. I guess that type of crime isn't taken as seriously. I don't know.

Point is, that things got worse. And now things are normal, but in a new way. It's like my life went a couple of steps down and now it's going straight. While before I was a few steps up and that was going straight. But, neither point in my life was any good in the first place. So, it's great that my life is normal now. But, it's lower than before, and how it was before wasn't any good either. So, it turn from bad to worse, and now it's a normal worse, if that makes any sense.

On a final note, I don't wish my life on anyone, because it's hard. Don't get me wrong, I'm not thinking I'm strong and no one can live my life. Whatever life you have, you get used to it, you work around it, you deal with it. That's how people are; they adapt or they die, but you know... that's a whole other thing. So, anyone can live my life. But, I wouldn't want that, because again it's hard. I don't want anyone to feel the pain and suffering I have. I encounter people complaining while having really good lives, which they have all the right to do. No life is perfect. And each life has its burdens. Yea, burdens are certainty scaled by frequency and severity. Someone who gets raped once isn't as bad as getting raped multiple times (frequency) and then getting beaten (severity). But, we all bleed the same. We all feel and think the same. That's how we all can relate to one another, and that's why we all have burdens, and we all can say with certainly that no life is perfect. Anyways, as I was saying I encounter plenty of people complaining when they have a really good life, and as they talk I just smile because I'm wholeheartly happy for them. Yes, it does suck that they will never have this perspective, but the only way they will have it is to be cosidered ugly by societal standards. And I wouldn't want that. It would be mind-blowing if someone that is average looking (again, by societal standards), or even considered beautiful by societal standards to have this perspective, but I doubt such people exist. This only makes sense to those that are considered ugly by society. Just like being raped only would make sense to those who have been raped. All I want is to not be attacked or be treated differently for having such a perspective. I also don't want to be belittled, such as giving me simple solutions as if I haven't thought or tried them yet.

Anyways, just adapt. Or... you know. I don't encourage people to kill themselves, but I respect that decision. I know.... that I'm going to kill myself eventually. There is only so much adapting I can do. Basically, I don't want anyone to die. You never know... life after death can be worse. At least with life you know what to expect, kind of. But, at the same time a lot of people are truly suffering, and sometimes they need it to end.

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Posted November 22 2016 - 12:10 PM

Meh.  I'm not overly interested in women anymore.  They just kind of seem like one dimensional biological zombies.  I am generalizing of course.  Back in the day I pretty much had a thing for all women.  Now most of them just seem hateful and shallow, superficial.  It's not interesting to me.

I don't blame you.



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Posted November 24 2016 - 05:01 PM

Everyone is beautiful in their own way. You are flower in a garden and you need to bloom. I wish you can see it as I do. Try to open your 4th chakra so you can bring this awareness inside you.



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Posted November 24 2016 - 10:57 PM

Everyone is beautiful in their own way. You are flower in a garden and you need to bloom. I wish you can see it as I do. Try to open your 4th chakra so you can bring this awareness inside you.

Sometimes the "way" people can be beautiful isn't good enough. I'm not a flower in a garden, I'm a weed in a sandbox. I'm convinced to stay single.



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Posted November 25 2016 - 12:16 AM

My 30 year old girlfriend earns, $30 a week. (6x 10hr shifts)

I'm 60 and spend $600 when I'm here for a week.

I'm thinking most women (worldwide) would find a guy that can spend over 20x their wage fairly attractive.

 

 

But, your first wife, and probably the rest of your family back home, in the UK was it?, they see you with the thai wife now and especially the phillipino girlffriend half your age......and now they will just think thats what you were doing to whole time.....young asian chics at massage parlours

 

Back when you were say 30, two young kids, struggling to pay off the mortgage, a certain amount was getting syphoned off secretly to pay for the massage parlours

 

Thats just what everyone is going to think now, you get that right?

 

Probably one of the reasons the first wife gave up in the first place, and tried to take everything from you, her rational: better it end up in the hands of the kids, otherwise its just going to all go to some young asian chic, that is well, going to do the same

 

 

 

 

Still, it is a curious thing about the material possesions thing, someone else mentioned, I like to look sharp most of the time, I wouldnt spend friggin $300 on shoes though, and all the money on all those stupid little knick knacks that overtake every married guys house, whats up with that. Why spend money on all that material shit, why not save, invest?



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Posted November 25 2016 - 02:06 AM

Back when you were say 30, two young kids, struggling to pay off the mortgage, a certain amount was getting syphoned off secretly to pay for the massage parlours

 

Thats just what everyone is going to think now, you get that right?

 

Probably one of the reasons the first wife gave up in the first place, and tried to take everything from you, her rational: better it end up in the hands of the kids, otherwise its just going to all go to some young asian chic, that is well, going to do the same

 

I didn't come to Asia until I was 52, and the 30 years with my first wife, I was faithful and there was never a money problem, I earned more than we could possibly spend, she claims she wasn't faithful. I've never done massage parlors, don't like them. I never even considered paying for sex until after I was divorced, and realized it's the only way a guy over 50 years old is going to get any.

 

Same for most of my pals. We didn't realize there was no benefits in being faithful until it was too late.


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Posted November 25 2016 - 06:26 AM

I never even considered paying for sex until after I was divorced, and realized it's the only way a guy over 50 years old is going to get any.


You mean the only way for a guy over 50 who is as ugly on the inside as you.

Same for most of my pals. We didn't realize there was no benefits in being faithful until it was too late.


So sad. Like the experiences of you and your pals are the only kind. You guys probably keep telling each other that shit to validate your tragic mindset. It's most likely also why you mention your relationships in every thread: subconscious urge for critical feedback
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Posted November 25 2016 - 07:16 AM

I didn't come to Asia until I was 52, and the 30 years with my first wife, I was faithful and there was never a money problem, I earned more than we could possibly spend, she claims she wasn't faithful. I've never done massage parlors, don't like them. I never even considered paying for sex until after I was divorced, and realized it's the only way a guy over 50 years old is going to get any.

 

Same for most of my pals. We didn't realize there was no benefits in being faithful until it was too late.

 

Did you ever like or love your wife?  Why did you marry someone who wasn't comfortable with your sleeping around or having multiple relationships, if that was the life you wanted?  It sounds like you resent her a bit, or at least resent the lifestyle you were in for those years. 



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Posted November 25 2016 - 07:38 AM

He seems bitter and like he feels betrayed. How valid those feelings may be it is still distorting his convictions. Now if he would have brought them forth as just his own, and not as if they're universal truths...
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Posted November 25 2016 - 09:10 AM

I didn't come to Asia until I was 52, and the 30 years with my first wife, I was faithful and there was never a money problem, I earned more than we could possibly spend, she claims she wasn't faithful. I've never done massage parlors, don't like them. I never even considered paying for sex until after I was divorced, and realized it's the only way a guy over 50 years old is going to get any.

 

Same for most of my pals. We didn't realize there was no benefits in being faithful until it was too late.

 

 

I'm not talking about whats true. Thats irrelevant

 

"People" dont know as they dont see everything anyway.

 

I'm talking about how they really think, and never tell you to your face.

 

I'm talking about that curse of - you are male, you just think with your dick, you are always going to cheat - you get that label no matter what you say or do. And half the time when it comes from the girls its to make excuses for their own unfaithfulness

 

You got divorced, then it was a thai wife, then a phillipino girlfriend, oh, he has a thing for asian chics, maybe he always did - thats just how everyones going to think.

 

You and your pals, earning good wages, none of you ever snuck off to a brothel whilst married? No one is really going to believe that - again, because you are male, you only think with your dick etc etc. Do you believe your pals 100% when they say they never cheated?, theres no way you can know

 

 

 

"Realized its the only way a guy over 50 was going to get any" - why do you think a lot of these thai, phillipino girls go for the older guys, compared to a 25 yr old guy with money thats going to want a blowjob three times a day, be agro or drunk or the time, still throw tantrums too often

 

You still seem blissfully unaware of the daddy issues thing, even though you are currently with a girl half your age, I'm sure with the Phillipno girlfriend it looks all about money, which hides everything else, but why isnt she with a 30 yr old guy with money? You have all the assumptions you have, but secondly after money, she's with you because you are older, arent going to want to fuck as much, likely to be a little more faithful for the time being as a result. And when you do fuck it lasts a lot longer than the 3 minutes from the average 30 yr old and you are a lot more attentive.

 

 

You do still sound resentful of the first wife, which I dont really get, I assume this Phillipino girlfriend looks better than she ever did.

 

If the first wife spent decades secretly stressing that when you hit a certain age, all the little minxes with daddy issues were going to start coming at you, thus the marriage always had a time limit.....well it all came true anyway didnt it. Always something all guys seem to be blinded to

 

And the first wifes cheating, I bet it was with lesser men than you, financially anyway - casual hookups with the ones they know they arent going to get attached to - theres no equivalent in the male minset so you are get blinded to that

 

First wife might be a total rag, but she spent the entire marriage knowing she was going to eventually get dumped for a younger girl, which is exactly what happened. And when she cheated, she had to cheat with losers so she didnt have to worry about crazy girlfriends,,,,,all very unfair in her eyes

 

You all seem to be clueless about this kind of stuff, and I dont get it, Just because an over 50 yr old guy was always gross to YOU doesnt mean the girls think they same way at all


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Posted November 25 2016 - 09:14 AM

You mean the only way for a guy over 50 who is as ugly on the inside as you.


So sad. Like the experiences of you and your pals are the only kind. You guys probably keep telling each other that shit to validate your tragic mindset. It's most likely also why you mention your relationships in every thread: subconscious urge for critical feedback

 

 

Have you considered that you may just end up sounding the same way he did 30 years ago.

 

You are male Asmo, no matter how much you try to convinced the ladies otherwise, you are male, you just think with your dick, you are always going to cheat

 

True or not, its irrelevant, that thing is just going to get worse as you and they get older


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Posted November 25 2016 - 09:20 AM

If you really believe what you wrote there thanks for sharing your sincere opinion. That's what your convictions on this matter are.

True or not, its irrelevant... lol have you any idea how stupid that sounds?

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Posted November 25 2016 - 09:31 AM

Some of you lads would absolutely flip your shit if women talked about men here the way you talk about women.
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Posted November 25 2016 - 09:41 AM

Some of you lads would absolutely flip your shit if women talked about men here the way you talk about women.

 

The most annoying thing is presenting this shit like they are universal truths, and not ramblings of bitter men. 

 

And VG would lose it if we pretended to know gays and were very judgemental towards them, like he does and is with women.


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Posted November 25 2016 - 05:35 PM

I would describe myself as disappointed rather than bitter.

Disappointed that all the Hollywood love shit we have forced down our throats just isn't true.


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Posted November 25 2016 - 05:46 PM

Not gonna lie, this is all depressing and makes want to move on to my second suicide attempt even faster.


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Posted November 25 2016 - 07:19 PM

Not gonna lie, this is all depressing and makes want to move on to my second suicide attempt even faster.

May you expound a bit please? What which parts make it most depressing for you?



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Posted November 25 2016 - 09:40 PM

You should read up on the subject of Cyrano de Bergerac, The Phantom of the Opera,

and Joseph (John) Merrick (the elephant Man) 

 

 

Hotwater


Never! This is outrageous. I'm through with it. I'll have no more of this hell-spawn!

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Posted November 26 2016 - 01:04 AM

they see you with the thai wife now and especially the phillipino girlffriend half your age......and now they will just think thats what you were doing to whole time.....young asian chics at massage parlours


Nobody from my previous life knows, where I am, what I am doing, or who I am doing it with.
In SEA, every (person who dresses as a) male pays for sex and goes whoring (usually from about age 15) and nobody views it as anything but normal.

(I added dresses as a male, cos if you want to dress as a woman then you can be paid ...... not sure how 2 gay guys work out the financials)

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Posted November 26 2016 - 02:08 AM

If you want something, don't let several failures and low chances stop you. You have to forget the odds and go for it anyway. Forgetting the odds will give you certain optimism. Forgetting failed attempts will help you go further. See, right now, you have a "poor me" attitude, and that needs to change to a "this will work, I'll make it happen" kind of attitude. Being that you stated several times your troubles with girls, that is probably your goal. Having optimism, and thinking that you have the power to make it happen, will help you find a girl. If you get turned down one day, keep trying to find another girl the next.

But remember that you should have standards too. Don't just be with anyone. You deserve to be with someone you actually like. You will eventually find someone you like who likes you back.


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Posted November 26 2016 - 02:33 AM

If you want something, don't let several failures and low chances stop you.


Great advice ....... but ..........
How many times can you afford to lose your home and/or 1/2 your net worth?

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Posted November 26 2016 - 08:06 AM

Disappointed that all the Hollywood love shit we have forced down our throats just isn't true.

 

Of course it's not true. I can't believe people fall for Hollywood crap.

But there's healthy middle and normal, sane relationships....where they love each other, he's not a total asshole and an old cynic, and she is not a psycho who pours boiling water over him. 


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