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#21 Asmo

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Posted July 27 2016 - 03:57 AM

Time is three dimensional. There are three dimensions of time. I don't have time to go into it right now. But I will take time to explain time later.

 

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Posted July 27 2016 - 04:07 AM

Time It So You Give Me Plenty Of Time In Advance And I Will Make Time To Read All About Your Time With Time......willy_nilly.gif

 

 

 

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Posted July 27 2016 - 05:15 AM

Okay, so as you know, time is usually just a single dimension. Okay. Us. The universe. Past, present future.

However, this dimension of time is also aligned, and created, along with space. Spacetime. Thus, the physical universe has it's own dimension of time.

However, heaven also exists. They have time, long before the universe was created. So that's a dimension.

However, God himself has existed for infinity. He has his own dimension of time that he defines.

There's your three dimension of time. God Time, Angel Time, and Universe Time.

Unless you don't think those things you cannot prove don't exist, then just ignore this post.

You have time to think it over.



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Posted July 27 2016 - 05:25 AM

How Can You Have "Angel Time"...Angel_anim.gif ...We All Know Angels Don't Wear Watches.....willy_nilly.gif

 

 

 

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Posted July 27 2016 - 12:46 PM

However, heaven also exists. They have time, long before the universe was created. So that's a dimension.

However, God himself has existed for infinity. He has his own dimension of time that he defines.

 

 

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#26 Wu Li Heron

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Posted July 27 2016 - 03:46 PM

Nobody's predicting the future for each and every particle.  It all just goes with the flow, bouncing off each other.

 

I'm saying time is not a thing, not a fabric, but a perspective.  Something we relate to that doesn't actually exist but in our minds.

Time is Indeterminate which makes it a metaphor and sometimes it will even express self-organizing systems logic. Without change time is meaningless as the Quantum Zeno Effect demonstrates so well.



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Posted July 29 2016 - 08:21 AM

Time is a dot, not a line. 



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Posted July 29 2016 - 11:18 PM

Ya but what I am saying is nothing can measure time that doesn't measure movement.

 

Even something that measures the decay of an element or some other thing measures the movement of particles or energy.  I'm no genius but it seems time doesn't exist.  Things just move and we have timing. 

 

It doesn't seem that time is an independent force.  I have heard of 'time & space' but space just seems to interact in such a way that timing occurs.  Not time itself existing as a force.

 

I'm not sure I've heard time referred to as a 'force' before. I think the general idea of time is to consider it more of a dimension, so for instance like length of an object isn't a 'force' but the interaction of the strong force, electromagnetism, gravity and weak force allows us, with our limited perceptual capabilities to draw a line in space which we call 'length' to give us that dimension.

 

From my understanding, the general consensus at the present moment is that, at the beginning of the universe, 3 of the forces can be accounted for to essentially being the same thing. However gravity has somehow eluded present formulas as to being included with the other forces and this is a giant question mark in science as to how this can be. This has led to various other theoretical theories, some of which I'm sure you've heard of (I.E. String Theory) but none have been definitely proven.

 

To go back to my first paragraph, our bodies/beings develop or emerge under specific conditions, where I think the concept of time is inextricably linked to our experience of being human. However, perhaps it's hypothetically conceivable that at some level of reality, time doesn't exist in the same way length doesn't exist. It just seems rather meaningless to me to make such a statement since we will never experience that level of reality as a human being.


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#29 Moonglow181

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Posted July 29 2016 - 11:40 PM

I always thought that time was just a measurement, much like what you just said.

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Posted July 30 2016 - 07:33 AM

I always thought that time was just a measurement, much like what you just said.

 

To say time is merely a measurement is a contradiction in terms that merely begs the question of what is a measurement.

 



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Posted July 30 2016 - 07:55 AM

I mean is it a way we as a human species measure things. Ask an animal how old they are. they don't know or get that concept. Ask them how many years ago 2012 was...again...not a measuring concept for them.....What time is it, Moxy? What do you mean time?...Oh, it is time for me to eat.....lol


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Posted July 30 2016 - 08:06 AM

 Ask them how many years ago 2012 was...again...not a measuring concept for them.....What time is it, Moxy? What do you mean time?...Oh, it is time for me to eat.....lol

 

Lol @ time for me to eat...

 

In regards to the 2012 point, there are many humans you can ask that question to on different calendar systems, where that question might be unintelligible or certainly very different from what we'd perceive as the 'correct' answer.

 

Keeping in line with other measuring concepts, it's kind of the same vein of US measuring techniques vs metric.


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Posted August 01 2016 - 06:33 PM


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Posted August 01 2016 - 06:37 PM

or for the answer you are more likely to find on this site...........

 


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Posted August 01 2016 - 07:02 PM

You are incorrect....gravity does not slow down time.  Time moves the same on the space station as is does on Earth, thus disproving your statement.



#36 penguinsfan13

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Posted August 01 2016 - 07:20 PM

i really doubt brian cox is reading these forms, although i would love to see that interaction.


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Posted August 03 2016 - 02:12 AM

You are incorrect....gravity does not slow down time.  Time moves the same on the space station as is does on Earth, thus disproving your statement.

 

 

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Posted August 04 2016 - 03:12 AM

I mean is it a way we as a human species measure things. Ask an animal how old they are. they don't know or get that concept. Ask them how many years ago 2012 was...again...not a measuring concept for them.....What time is it, Moxy? What do you mean time?...Oh, it is time for me to eat.....lol

 

Time is also a way to measure things, but it doesn't stop there (obviously). There is both the concept of time and there is this thing like getting old and erosion etc. etc. which is not just a concept or measurement but just somethng we are all subject to wether we are a human, a dog, a worm or a piece of stone.


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#39 guerillabedlam

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Posted August 04 2016 - 04:54 AM

Time is also a way to measure things, but it doesn't stop there (obviously). There is both the concept of time and there is this thing like getting old and erosion etc. etc. which is not just a concept or measurement but just somethng we are all subject to wether we are a human, a dog, a worm or a piece of stone.

 

Aging and erosion are definitely concepts and can be measured by time...

 

I got a vague notion that you are suggesting something along the lines of entropy being a aspect of time, but care to clarify what you mean?


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Posted August 04 2016 - 05:19 AM

I am stating the obvious that the word time is ment for 2 different things. 1) it is the term used as a way to measure things (year, hour etc.), but 2) time is also something that is evidently occuring even if no one in the universe would observe it. How are we certain of that? Because things like erosion, planets turning around suns and change of seasons, etc. etc. would also happen without anyone/thing in the world to observe it/invent a concept for it. Now, even if we could credit gravity mainly for the fact that these happenings are occuring, the fact that a planet looks like this one time and like that some time later (due to their position to the sun, or due to erosion for example) even if there's no one to observe it :P makes it evident time (whatever it exactly is) exists outside human thought/concept as well.


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