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#1 Jimbee68

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Posted May 11 2016 - 10:43 PM

Why are there so many stories about mental illness, and violence, in the media all of a sudden?

 

I was born in 1968. So my memories go back to at least the 70's. And it was never like this. I recall back in the 80's, for example, once in a while there was a story like this. But now it is literally every week. Sometimes even several times a week. What gives? And what is different now?

 

Most mentally are not violent, BTW. And of course, Pres. Reagan did cut funding to mental health services, a trend that continues to this day, I understand. 

 

But still something is undeniably different. Clearly not a conspiracy, at least not a well-planned one. But as I said, something is clearly different now.

 

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Posted May 11 2016 - 10:52 PM

Because human mentality has changed and become more diseased. Not counting a lot of asylums were closed for the truly insane. We have a lot more medicine to work with now, and if its not compatible with the subject in question it can cause psychosis episodes, and insanity. Not counting with the ease of getting supplies to be destructive causes more destruction. That and it was probably not talked about as much in that day and age because people tried to keep it quite. There wasn't as much media influence in society so we could hide incidents better.


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Posted May 12 2016 - 12:06 AM

Why are there so many stories about mental illness, and violence, in the media all of a sudden?

 

Attracts attention, boast ratings. 



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Posted May 12 2016 - 02:41 PM

According to the official data, rates of violent crime have dropped in the past dew decades, at least in the US.  According to this chart, you are right that they used to be lower, but that was before you were born. 

 

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(from: http://www.nationalr...les-c-w-cooke )

 

If these data are to be believed, my explanation for the perceived increase in violence would be the media itself.  We are currently bombarded by media more than ever before.  Everywhere we turn there is some sort of news outlet giving us new information.  They need to find some way to fill the 24 hour time slots, so they broadcast and over blow every story that they can find.  A lot of these stories might have been delegated to a single back-page newspaper article 20 years ago. 



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Posted May 12 2016 - 02:43 PM

I think it ties in to gun control wishes.

 

They want to make it so if you've ever taken an antidepressant drug you can't get a gun carrying permit.



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Posted May 12 2016 - 04:06 PM

I think maybe there are more people recognized and diagnosed as being mentally ill, such that when you hear about a violent crime that person may have had mental instability in the past or been diagnosed with something in the past. These days you can hardly get arrested without being diagnosed as one thing or another. 


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Posted May 12 2016 - 05:02 PM

I think it ties in to gun control wishes.

 

They want to make it so if you've ever taken an antidepressant drug you can't get a gun carrying permit.

 

 

It's called "weapons under disability" and most states already have that law on the books. If you've taken an antidepressant, you must be disabled. (doesn't matter if it was prescribed for pain)


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Posted May 12 2016 - 05:04 PM

It's called "weapons under disability" and most states already have that law on the books. If you've taken an antidepressant, you must be disabled. (doesn't matter if it was prescribed for pain)

 

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Posted May 12 2016 - 05:11 PM

Oka, Georgia only has a problem if you've been in rehab.

 

http://georgia.gov/p...irearms-license

 

  • If you've been in a mental hospital or drug treatment center within the last five years, you must ask that your county probate court judge approve your license application. The judge will seek a recommendation from the superintendent of your hospital or treatment center, and then determine whether it's safe for you to carry a gun.
 


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Posted May 12 2016 - 05:50 PM

 Interesting

 

 

 

Oka, Georgia only has a problem if you've been in rehab.

 

http://georgia.gov/p...irearms-license

 

  • If you've been in a mental hospital or drug treatment center within the last five years, you must ask that your county probate court judge approve your license application. The judge will seek a recommendation from the superintendent of your hospital or treatment center, and then determine whether it's safe for you to carry a gun.
 

 

 

 

At the moment Weapons Under Disability isn't being used to take anybody's guns away... It's usually a tagged on charge once someone has already broken some other law, with or without weapons being involved. It also doesn't specifically mention antidepressants. All it would take is some subtle "re-defining" of it's meaning and 1/2 or more of those with guns could likely lose them.


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Posted May 12 2016 - 05:53 PM

At the moment Weapons Under Disability isn't being used to take anybody's guns away... It's usually a tagged on charge once someone has already broken some other law, with or without weapons being involved. It also doesn't specifically mention antidepressants. All it would take is some subtle "re-defining" of it's meaning and 1/2 or more of those with guns could likely lose them.

 

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Posted May 12 2016 - 05:55 PM

Plus, you know how we've all lost our ability to feel empathy from the damn Tylenol...



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Posted May 12 2016 - 06:17 PM

Plus, you know how we've all lost our ability to feel empathy from the damn Tylenol...

 

 

 

That's designed in...  empathy would not be a desired trait in a controlled populous. 


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Posted May 12 2016 - 06:27 PM

That's designed in...  empathy would not be a desired trait in a controlled populous. 

 

Nope.  It would not.



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Posted May 12 2016 - 07:53 PM

Why are there so many stories about mental illness

 

it's an election year, so there's stories about what the mentally ill candidates do every day.


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Posted May 12 2016 - 10:17 PM

Speak of the devil (literally) because he claims he was hearing voices and presumably one of them was the devil telling him to kill himself and everyone around him) 

 

May 12, 2016, 12:21 PM

 

Questions surround mental patient's release from hospital before stabbings

 

TAUNTON, Mass. - State officials planned to review the circumstances involving a man who fatally stabbed 2 people at a home and mall and injured several others hours after being released from a hospital where his family said he was taken while suicidal and depressed.

 

The family of Arthur DaRosa said he had been battling mental illness in recent months and checked himself in to Morton Hospital on Monday evening. He was released Tuesday morning and hours later fatally stabbed an 80-year-old woman in her home and a 56-year-old teacher dining out at a mall with his wife before being shot and killed by an off-duty sheriff's deputy.

 

Morton spokeswoman Julie Masci said in a statement that the hospital is barred by federal law from acknowledging patient names or disclosing patient information.

 

 

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Never! This is outrageous. I'm through with it. I'll have no more of this hell-spawn!

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Posted July 23 2016 - 01:45 AM

Something or somebody is behind many people's becoming mentally ill. There are warfares that are covert. What you consume could be causing you mental problems, if what it is is somebody's new aged arm in today's arms race between countries.

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Posted July 28 2016 - 01:04 AM

The uk call it care in the community, but it rarely works, or comes good!

But this is interesting!

http://www.thekimfou...ill/causes.html

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Posted July 31 2016 - 01:42 PM

Because the governmedia always has an agenda when they promote something heavily.


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Posted August 01 2016 - 11:03 AM

Sensationalism at it's finest.  You do not hear of those with mental health issues who are stable and coping being reported as there is no story there that they wish to bring forth.  They only report the situations that are of the small minority of those with mental health issues who for what ever reason lose control.


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Posted August 01 2016 - 11:35 AM

its in the water.


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Posted August 01 2016 - 11:55 AM

its in the water.

 

 

and the air...

 

 

and the food...

 

 

and the medications...

 

 

and the media...

 

 

and the... You get the idea


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Posted August 01 2016 - 12:03 PM

well if its in the water....how do plants grow? what do animals drink? where does water go when it evaporates? 

and who gets the best ratings for talking about it.

yeah i got the idea i was just simplifying it.


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Posted August 05 2016 - 02:21 PM

crazy? why?



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Posted August 05 2016 - 09:14 PM

I wasn't reading everyone's post....did anyone mention that these mental disorders existed but didn't have a name? And without instant media available stories didn't travel quite as much....oh yeah and the water.

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Posted August 12 2016 - 05:04 AM

Why are there so many stories about mental illness, and violence, in the media all of a sudden?

 

I was born in 1968. So my memories go back to at least the 70's. And it was never like this. I recall back in the 80's, for example, once in a while there was a story like this. But now it is literally every week. Sometimes even several times a week. What gives? And what is different now?

 

Most mentally are not violent, BTW. And of course, Pres. Reagan did cut funding to mental health services, a trend that continues to this day, I understand. 

 

But still something is undeniably different. Clearly not a conspiracy, at least not a well-planned one. But as I said, something is clearly different now.

 

:)

Because Jim, the media wasn't as opeen as it is now.  Now we have the internet.  Back then, honestly, people didn't give a shit.  This is a touchy subject for me because I deal with a lot of abuse, and I have multiple impairments.  However, the authorities constantly refer to my medical history and what little they really know.

 

Here's some light reading tfor you, so you can hopefully grasp the situation a bit better-

1. Scott, Leslie. “It Never, Ever Ends”: The Psychological Impact of Wrongful Conviction". 2010. American University Criminal Law Brief 5, no.2 (2010):10-22.

2. Cook, L. "Americans with Disabilities More Often Victims of Violent Crimes". May 2016.  U.S. News & World Report.

3. Yiannopoulos, M. "Meet Rape Panic’s Latest Victims: The Disabled". July 2015. Retrieved from www.breitbart.com

4. "Mentally ill 'at high risk of being victim of violence'". February 2012. BBC News. Retrieved from http://www.bbc.com/news/health.

5. Hiday, V., et.al. "Criminal Victimization of Persons With Severe Mental Illness". 1999. Psychiatric Services 50: 62-68. "NEW STUDY: Mentally Ill Are Often Targets of Violence". No Author. 2015. Retrieved from http://www.treatment...out-us/our-blog

6. Shipman, M. "Study Shows Mentally Ill More Likely to Be Victims, Not Perpetrators, of Violence". February 2014. Retrieved from https://news.ncsu.edu/  

7. Desmarais, S., et. al. “Community Violence Perpetration and Victimization Among Adults With Mental Illnesses”. February 2014. Published American Journal of Public Health. DOI: 10.2105/AJPH.2013.301680

8. "Victimization: One of the consequences of failing to treat individuals with severe mental illnesses". March 2011. Backgrounder, Treatment Advocacy Center.  Retrieved from http://www.treatment...cacycenter.org/

9. McBratney, L. "Victimization of People with Mental Illness - Barriers to Reporting Crime". 2015. Retrieved from http://www.heretohelp.bc.ca/, Reprinted from "Trauma and Victimization" issue of Visions Journal, 2007, 3 (3), pp. 8-9 "Violence & mental health". 2008.  Retrieved from http://www.time-to-change.org.uk
 


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