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#61 Ashalicious

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Posted May 04 2016 - 10:49 AM

At first i thought maybe this person uses alot of garlic and other herbs and spices alot not pleasing to the nose...but from what you say, it is filth......so i do not know what i would do in a situation like this..probably suffer.........to avoid and neighbor wars.......or buy a close pin....lol

 

I do actually need to get a clothes pin....for when I look after the baby (he is 12 months) for full days and have to change his mucho poopo diapers. I actually feel really bad because I gag, and it makes him cry, and when he cries, my heard breaks. I do wear gloves now, when I change him, and that helps me relax, but a clothes pin/peg would be next level, and would make the diaper changing a breeze.

 

Oh, and the strong smell of food, I can handle.....that has never bothered me.....


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Posted May 04 2016 - 11:16 AM

Garlic, too? I use alot of it, and whenever I make anything, i use a whole bulb of it and not just a few cloves....I love garlic and I also take strong pills of garlic, and I know, i certainly can clear a room, at times....lol

My pours just throw it out everywhere i go.

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Posted May 04 2016 - 12:22 PM

Garlic, too? I use alot of it, and whenever I make anything, i use a whole bulb of it and not just a few cloves....I love garlic and I also take strong pills of garlic, and I know, i certainly can clear a room, at times....lolMy pours just throw it out everywhere i go.


I eat onions every day in everything (I don't know how you could cook without them :p ) and when I get really sweaty I can smell onions... so I understand that!
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Posted May 04 2016 - 01:34 PM

Maybe the smell is burnt lube from all the sexy times he is having

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Posted May 04 2016 - 10:33 PM

Maybe on the days the hall doesn't smell, he's not leaving his unit? Or not opening his window and blowing the scent into the hallway. It might explain why it's intermittent.

If he is depressed he's probably not going to be too worried about personal hygiene, no matter what you say to him. Someone that's really depressed doesn't usually care if they live or die so being stinky and unwashed isn't going to be high on his list of concerns. IF he is depressed, you're probably not likely to solve the issue short of getting him help. Antidepressants can have side effects, but sweating and B.O. Isn't one of them.

Hopefully, it is as simple as his diet and he might be so used to it that he's not aware of the offence his odour is causing. Maybe ask him how he is, a depressed person will give negative answers or "not too bad" at best, and if he's okay bring up the issue. If he's not okay, you might have to choose between helping and running away.

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Posted May 08 2016 - 07:44 AM

Is Atsi around these days, or did he get banned again? He actually might have some good advice on how to resolve this issue.

 

How could he help you?

 

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Posted May 08 2016 - 08:45 AM

How could he help you?

 

Talking to Turkish guys 101?

 

OMG, like, YEAH!


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Posted May 13 2016 - 05:36 AM

maybe he is from Arkansas,we got lots of good ol boys who chew tobacco, drink, sleep with the dog and fail to clean the pig shit off their boots



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Posted May 26 2016 - 02:15 PM

I think this issue is going to come to a head soon, and to be honest, I am worried.

 

My husband is getting exceptionally frustrated with the situation, and has been riling himself up about it. He said to me yesterday "It makes me mad that you put so much effort into keeping this place neat, tidy, and organized, only to have it smell like stinky, dirty man".

 

It seems that, since I sent that note to the neighbor, he has been literally holed up in his apartment. I think he sleeps all day and then is up all night. I am certain he is severely depressed, and that is why he can't bring himself to take a shower, wash his clothes, clean his apartment, ect.

 

As a society, we are taught to empathize with people who suffer from severe depression, however there is no "rules" for how we are to approach person who stinks so badly because they can't take a shower as a result of their depression.

 

So are we just suppose to tolerate this, because he is depressed?

Don't get me wrong, I do empathize with him. It makes me incredibly sad to know that he is suffering from depression, and I wish this wasn't the case. I don't think my husband speaking to him directly about his lack of personal hygiene will help the situation, either.
 

I don't know what to do.


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Posted May 26 2016 - 02:29 PM

call social services and they can send someone to assess his needs



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Posted May 26 2016 - 04:28 PM

call social services and they can send someone to assess his needs

 

Will Social Services do that???

 

I thought Social Services was only called upon for situations involving children.....


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#72 Spaceman Spiff

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Posted May 26 2016 - 04:38 PM

cities usually have some kind of service that helps disabled and elderly ...i cant remember what its called here but there has to be some place like that over there



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Posted May 27 2016 - 02:40 AM

As a society, we are taught to empathize with people who suffer from severe depression, however there is no "rules" for how we are to approach person who stinks so badly because they can't take a shower as a result of their depression.

So are we just suppose to tolerate this, because he is depressed?
Don't get me wrong, I do empathize with him. It makes me incredibly sad to know that he is suffering from depression, and I wish this wasn't the case. I don't think my husband speaking to him directly about his lack of personal hygiene will help the situation, either.

I don't know what to do.


Speak to him directly anyway :P You or your guy. You sound like you tried everything but this is one of the basic and often most useful approaches. Im sure you can imagine as well a depressed stinky neighbour reacts better to a considerate message in person than to an anonymous note of which he can guess its from you guys ;) Hey i still have at least as much sympathy for you than your depressed neighbour!... which is why i say again try to speak to him in person about it in an understanding way (like you can about him on here). If one of you haven't tried that you really have not tried everything.
Btw: I understand why you avoid this option just fine but see it like this: the place smells like shit, the guy is (most likely) already depressed and you and your bf can garner up some understanding.. why not try. If your bf is eating himself up about this issue (very understandable as well) the understanding, patience and consideration for your depressed stinky neighbour will only grow less.
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Posted May 27 2016 - 04:27 AM


Wait, how old is this guy again? I thought he was a youngish dude



Speak to him directly anyway :P You or your guy. You sound like you tried everything but this is one of the basic and often most useful approaches. Im sure you can imagine as well a depressed stinky neighbour reacts better to a considerate message in person than to an anonymous note of which he can guess its from you guys ;) Hey i still have at least as much sympathy for you than your depressed neighbour!... which is why i say again try to speak to him in person about it in an understanding way (like you can about him on here). If one of you haven't tried that you really have not tried everything.
Btw: I understand why you avoid this option just fine but see it like this: the place smells like shit, the guy is (most likely) already depressed and you and your bf can garner up some understanding.. why not try. If your bf is eating himself up about this issue (very understandable as well) the understanding, patience and consideration for your depressed stinky neighbour will only grow less.


Errr, Asmo, Asmo, Asmo

Very positive sounding post there.

Unfortunately, you try "help" most people and they'll just try take advantage of you


"Depression" Is someone elses classification. Maybe the guy likes to sit around in his filth all day, with a nice big cup of he dont give a ****

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Posted May 27 2016 - 06:26 AM

I would honestly go back to your landlord and raise hell. It is their job to deal with these things specifically, so you don't have issues with your own neighbours. Tell your landlords your concerns about his living condition as well. Say that sort of smell can only mean he is living in squalor. It should get their attention more since they'll be concerned about the condition of the apartment.
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Posted May 27 2016 - 06:39 AM

"Depression" Is someone elses classification. Maybe the guy likes to sit around in his filth all day, with a nice big cup of he dont give a ****


I agree. It's a possibility as well. That's why I'd advocate adressing the issue in person first to get an impression. No reasonable reaction: make the landlord do his job. Sometimes (often :P) communicating in person can make things clearer much sooner.

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Posted May 27 2016 - 06:49 AM

Sometimes (often :P) communicating in person can make things clearer much sooner.



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Posted May 27 2016 - 07:00 AM

Give him a nice signed print.

 

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Posted May 27 2016 - 07:32 AM

Spiffy had the right answer, call social services and explain the situation, you could even lie a little and say he has talked of suicide and you haven't seen/heard him for a couple of days, that will get someone out there.

Police/social worker are much better equipped/trained for something like this.

If you are not sure of his mental state, a direct confrontation may not end well. ;)

 

if he is mentally stable and just has bad hygiene, maybe suggesting a maid service would be received better?

 

 

on a less serious note:

my top three stinkiest encounters have been;

#3 the Indian guy who runs the local small liquor store, between the stench of BO and incense, ya damn near have to hold your breath if you go in.

#2 Vietnamese who live on kimchi and garlic. when they sweat that shit out of their pores, it can clear a movie theater.

#1 the top stinkiest encounter is without doubt when I worked at natural food color/flavor maker. We dealt with many companies that are kosher; Hunt-Wesson for example, and we were subject to bi-annual inspections by a couple of rabbi's.

these guys were your hard core Hassidic Jews, long curls, beads, and everything they wore was wool. I guess it was some religious thing, but they obviously didn't bath for looong stretches of time and would stink the place out like you wouldn't believe. I'm talking a production facility/warehouse of about 12,000 square feet totally engulfed in acrid rabbi stink!!!

We fucking hated those visits, not only did they stink, they were the most arrogant mofo's I have ever met in my life.

 

there was the crazy lady that used to come in to one of the Sav-On stores I managed that the cosmetic clerk would follow around they store with a can of air freshener spraying it, but what the hell, that nutty lady was the sister of the Queen of England and G.W. Bush seniors old girlfriend and she had the cracker-jack ring to prove it....LOL


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Posted May 27 2016 - 08:31 AM

Wait, how old is this guy again? I thought he was a youngish dudeErrr, Asmo, Asmo, AsmoVery positive sounding post there.Unfortunately, you try "help" most people and they'll just try take advantage of you"Depression" Is someone elses classification. Maybe the guy likes to sit around in his filth all day, with a nice big cup of he dont give a ****


That, and if he is depressed I don't think a neighbor calling him out on smelling like shit will do anything but make him feel worse about himself. Even if she or her hot hubby does it in a very polite, empathetic way.

Ash I would really look into having someone from social services do a welfare check on him.
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Posted May 27 2016 - 09:51 AM

Wait, how old is this guy again? I thought he was a youngish dude




Errr, Asmo, Asmo, Asmo

Very positive sounding post there.

Unfortunately, you try "help" most people and they'll just try take advantage of you


"Depression" Is someone elses classification. Maybe the guy likes to sit around in his filth all day, with a nice big cup of he dont give a ****

 

He has told the neighbor below us that he suffers from depression and has been diagnosed as bi polar.


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Posted May 27 2016 - 09:52 AM

That, and if he is depressed I don't think a neighbor calling him out on smelling like shit will do anything but make him feel worse about himself. Even if she or her hot hubby does it in a very polite, empathetic way.

Ash I would really look into having someone from social services do a welfare check on him.

 

I am so worried that talking to him will do exactly that, and the LAST thing I would ever want to do is make him feel worse...


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Posted May 27 2016 - 11:00 AM

he probably stays inside and builds up a sweat wanking to cam porn



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Posted May 27 2016 - 12:18 PM

So I Googled social services in vancouver to see where you need to call and there doesn't seem to be much information online. The best I can come up with is to call your local police station or the 311 number (not 911) and ask for the number for social services. 311 might be the best place to start.
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Posted May 31 2016 - 10:33 AM

Here is the letter my husband wrote to the neighbor.

 

Dear Ahmet,

 

Until recently we have enjoyed having you as our neighbor. You have been pleasant to talk to and seem like a really nice guy. However, recently we have been worried about you because of a lack of personal hygiene. Having done some internet research on the matter, we suspect that you may be feeling very down and depressed and we are concerned for your well-being. We have considered calling social services and if we knew a way to contact your family members to tell them they should be concerned, we would.

 

We are very sorry to be forced to write this, but something has to be done about the smell coming from your apartment. We assume you cannot smell it yourself because you have become used to it. However, to us and our visitors it has become extremely distasteful.

 

It began as an odor in the hallway that became stronger the closer we got to your door. Sometimes there is also a lingering body odor in the elevator that smells the same as the hallway. While these odors were unpleasant, we did not wish to butt into your business so we didn’t say anything. Recently however we have begun to smell this odor in our own bedroom, which is through the wall from your bedroom.

 

In the cooler months it does not smell as bad, but now that we are into the warmer months the smell has become increasingly difficult to put up with. We left you a note and you appeared to be offended when we saw you in the elevator. It is not a pleasant task to be forced to tell another adult that their personal hygiene practices are offensive, but we have no other choice.

 

We respectfully request that you wash all of your clothing and bed sheets. Then please use a product like Febreeze on cloth surfaces that can’t be put into the washing machine. Common practice is to shower daily and wash one’s hair at least twice per week.

 

While this is very difficult to have to write, and also difficult to have to read, it will certainly improve the way you are treated by others if you do as we request. Out of respect for your privacy and not wanting to publicly humiliate you by bringing in the landlord, this letter is meant as an effort to let you deal with this problem yourself. If we do not see you take any active measures to address this issue we will be forced to involve the landlord.

 

We will be delivering this to him tonight, and give him one week to fix the problem. If the problem persists after one week, then we will be contacting social services and the landlord and making a big stink (no pun intended).


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Posted May 31 2016 - 12:47 PM

So I Googled social services in vancouver to see where you need to call and there doesn't seem to be much information online. The best I can come up with is to call your local police station or the 311 number (not 911) and ask for the number for social services. 311 might be the best place to start.

 

The thing with calling social services, is the problem is intermittent. Some days, it doesn't smell at all. It is actually on really warm days that we notice the smell the most. Because he never opens his windows, when the sun beams through them, it heats the place up, and the smell then exudes through the wall and into the hallway.

 

If we do call social services (and if the problem still persists after a week of us giving him the letter my husband wrote), they likely will take a few days before they can come for a visit, and it is possible they may come on a non-stinky day.

Thank you for taking the time to google. 311 is great, I actually just called 311 today, to inquire about apartment buildings having mandatory wheelchair accessible entry, because I had one hell of a time getting the stroller into the apartment building this morning.


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Posted May 31 2016 - 01:04 PM

Are you telling us that Canada isn't perfect?  This is not standard internet procedure.  ;)


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Posted May 31 2016 - 01:36 PM

The intermittent thing still makes me wonder if you have it all correct.

If it was about bad hygiene the smell would be there all the time.

Sure it isn't just about some kind of food he likes cooking you are unfamiliar with and stinks out the apartment off and on?

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Posted May 31 2016 - 01:38 PM

The intermittent thing still makes me wonder if you have it all correct.

If it was about bad hygiene the smell would be there all the time.

Sure it isn't just about some kind of food he likes cooking you are unfamiliar with and stinks out the apartment off and on?

 

I know what you mean.

 

When he rides the elevator, it reeks for at least an hour after he's been in it. MAYBE it is his food, but I've never seen him bring groceries into the building in the three years he's lived next to us.

 

And his clothes look dirty, his hair looks greasy, his t-shirts look like they haven't been washed in weeks.

 

And if it was the food, then why does my bedroom wall just reek like BO?

 

Our apartment is south facing, and when the sun shines in the windows, it gets uncomfortably hot. So to me it makes sense why we only smell him when the sun is out.


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Posted May 31 2016 - 01:58 PM

The intermittent thing still makes me wonder if you have it all correct.

If it was about bad hygiene the smell would be there all the time.

Sure it isn't just about some kind of food he likes cooking you are unfamiliar with and stinks out the apartment off and on?

 

I just did some research on Turkish Cuisine, and it doesn't look like anything that would cause a stench similar to that of BO........


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