Jeremy Corbyn

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  1. BlackBillBlake

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    He's done it! Jeremy Corbyn elected as new leader of the Labour Party. :sunny:

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    Now we will have some real opposition, and some real choice in this country. It's good news that Corbyn will now take the party away from the Blairite neo-liberal organization it had become, back to it's roots as a socialist party representing the interests of ordinary people against the vicious assault of Tory austerity.

    No doubt the right wing media (most of the media in other words) will set out to attack and discredit. But now the people will have a voice once more, something that's really been lacking in British politics since the 90's when Blair launched 'New Labour' as Tory Party Mk. II.

    Probably, many on the right will be rejoicing over this, as they assume Labour under Corbyn will be un-electable. Let's wait and see. Another 4 years of the present Conservative govt., especially as the so called 'recovery' begins to unravel, and people may well have had enough.

    Britain could actually become a socially progressive country once again.

    Best day in UK politics for many years.
     
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  2. Joshua Tree

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    Couldn't agree more.

    At first I was going to vote for Liz Kendall, then I read her policies in detail and dumped her.

    Then I was thinking of Andy Burnham or Yvette Cooper, but after talking with my friends I decided that the only real
    chance of change is through Corbyn.

    I wish him the best of luck in putting his policies across in the face of the right wing press.

    He needs our support, and I really hope he can land some killer blows on the despicable Tories.
     
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  3. lithium

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    I admire his honesty and passion, and that of his supporters, but I fear that this is not going to end well... The conservatives' claim that they are now the party for ordinary, aspirational people is a lie that works. Equivocation, honesty and reasonableness (in short, intelligence) is unfortunately not a winning formula and he's leaving the goal wide open. Let's face it, the majority of voters are mouth-breathing cretins who respond to simple ideas stated simply and repeatedly. Look at the press over the last few days for a taster of what's to come.
     
  4. BlackBillBlake

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    ^It's not going to be easy for Corbyn for the reasons you mention. But it's four and a half years yet until the next election. If things begin to go awry for the tories during that time, and there's a good chance they will, people's attitudes may change.

    After the last election I personally decided I wouldn't be voting Labour again, as I felt they didn't offer an alternative, and really didn't even try. So I decided in future to vote Green (even less chance of getting anywhere you might say). I'll definitely be voting Green in local and Euro elections, I'm going to wait and see as regards the general election.


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  5. WOLF ANGEL

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    There has been a good deal of criticism - from the Media over the result of this Election - however with the manner of the victory - votes 'across the broad' spectrum of voters, shows the depth of feeling from the people.
    A good deal of difficult times ahead - when doctrine and conviction will be tested, although with faith and resolve - people power can make it happen
    As for Victory in future General election - "keeping it real does require consideration when balancing the conscience of the self abut the feeling of the masses, It is astute awareness, a degree of compromise and timing which will be key.
     
  6. autophobe2e

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    Corbyn may just be able to deliver something I never thought I'd see in my lifetime: a labour party I can vote for without feeling the need to have a shower straight afterward.

    The Blairite fear-mongering didn't work! The insistence that Corbyn would make the party unelectable with left-wing policies and that we need to stick with centre-right, pro-austery, neoliberal shite was ridiculous after the last election, blairite policies havent won them anything for 10 years, and just lost them all but one scottish seat! the party in its pre-corbyn form was already pretty unelectable. At least now it can be a force for good, even in opposition.
     
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  7. Glastonbury

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    A politician who never was a hippy and never subscribed thereto in spite of being at the right time in the right place. I never was a fan of Trotsky or any other ideologue (left or right) including modern ones. Therefore excuse me if I shake my head and walk on...
     
  8. BlackBillBlake

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    Don't be surprised then if in 2020 we get yet another 5 years of the tories - none of whom were ever hippies as far as I can tell.

    After another 5 years of tory rule, the space we used to enjoy where we could pursue alternative lifestyles will have disappeared in open prison UK. Labour have never really been my favourites, but it's a question of the lesser evil I think. I'd like to see the Greens gaining ground, but will that happen? Maybe, in which case I'd definitely place my vote there.
    The age of old style industrial socialism is probably over - something Jeremy and his mates seem unable to comprehend.

    Sill, if you ask me to choose between them and Cameron, or Boris, even Osbourne probably by then, it's pretty clear cut.
     
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  9. Glastonbury

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    Understood, but I still don't trust any of them : )
     
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  10. Hoppípolla

    Hoppípolla Senior Member

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    He's an interesting guy and probably benevolent but I don't think that most people out there will want to trust him with the country >.<
     
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    A lot of people will only trust who the Sun or the Mail tells them to trust.
     
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  12. Hoppípolla

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    True :)
     

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