Greece's Woes.

Discussion in 'Latest Hip News Stories' started by Bilby, Jul 4, 2015.

  1. Bilby

    Bilby Lifetime Supporter and Freerangertarian Super Moderator

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    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    I read the same thing too. They said the biggest factor in Germany being where it is today was a total reduction on military requirements.

    Who's Greece have as enemies anyway?

    They recently tried to get us to pay them a lot of money for post war reparations. I'm glad or government told 'em to sod off. :)
     
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  3. Vanilla Gorilla

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    I'm looking forward to the downfall of the EU
     
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  5. Bilby

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    If the EU stops countries going to war, is that not a good thing?
     
  6. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Nukes stop countries going to war, not bureaucrats
     
  7. Vanilla Gorilla

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    We are in this shit because Greece is corrupt as all hell, and the rest of europe has been propping them up for a decade
     
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    Persia :-D
     
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  10. Vanilla Gorilla

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    And with the complexity of financial markets nowadays, derivatives and the what not, impossible for a country or another countrys governement to make a dent in one economy in the shorterm

    Venezuala this year, with the oil price drop, once their dollar started to fluctuate wildly, the amount of funds coming in from the rest of the world to basically gamble on their currency far outweighed that countries total assets

    Same with greece now, shitload more money being gambled on their markets than their banks dont have left
     
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    Liking your own post eh :D
    I guess their enemy is Turkey? Plus they have problems with a huge flow of illegal immigrants, coming from Turkey (or better said Syria).
    On a related note, Hungary is building a wall at their eastern border (with Serbia), and I totally support this, even if it redirects immigrants to Croatia.

    Anyways, I doubt this is going to end well for Greece.
    They want to negotiate, but under their own conditions. Sigh.

    Such dra(h) ma.
     
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    I liked my own post??
    I laugh at my own jokes too. :D
     
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    I like(d) that!
     
  14. Vanilla Gorilla

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    And debt relief is pretty much the same thing.as.austerity

    You are just sayng, continue your bullshit corruption, keep spending a bunch of money on stuff that doesnt do anything.

    The general public will have to come at all levels of government, past and present, with pitchforks before there is real change.

    That is revolution, change the culture before there is real change

    Whats greek for viva la revolu-chee-on? Mousaka rhe revolu-cha-on vre
     
  15. GeorgeJetStoned

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    Greece has compulsory service, for 2 years I think. Many Greeks delay this as long as possible because military pay is terrible and it's almost impossible to retain any control of a job or business. So going into the military is essentially a trip to bankruptcy fort most. The government props this up with minimal safety nets.

    I used to work with a Greek guy when I was a corporate whore working in IT. He was hired in because he had superb negotiating skills. I went to several meetings where I got to see this in action. If I ever buy anything big, like a ranch, I'm going to have him negotiate the deal. Also, there was nothing sedentary about him, he was a dynamo who worked 15 hour days because he called every time zone in the US. He also dug up dirt on everyone. Even me!
     
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    What does Greece have to show for all of the excessive "military spending", like any military assets?

    Show me the aircraft carrier.

    They are purchasing the votes of the citizen via distribution of benefits and pensions on borrowed cash.
     
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    One of their ships was originally an American ship, the USS Slater. I forget the name the Greeks gave it after purchasing it as WW2 surplus. But after many years in service the Greeks retired it and sold it back to a group in Albany who has been restoring it for quite a while now. I took a tour of it back in the late 90s.
     

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