Why Is Rock Still Dead?

Discussion in 'Music' started by Vanilla Gorilla, Apr 9, 2015.

  1. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Its been too long now to just say the internet, downloading killed rock



    Im identifying the true death of rock around mid to late 90s, once that nu-metal crap came to power, That is, from Limp Bizkit onwards

    Coming up to almost 20 years now, there has been zip, especially from 2000 onwards

    Im going through serious withdrawl symptons, scrapped the bottom of the back catalogue barrel
     
  2. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    It's not dead, just out of the mainstream. In the cases for particular kinds of rock: it just evolved into something you don't dig and thus it seems dead and gone. Personally I have dwelled in the stoner/heavy psych genre ever since I found out that's where the rockers and sound are at that I am expecting/looking for in rock. It's alive and kicking and definitely did not suffer or died after the nu metal and alternative 90's stuff became big. If anything it got just as big as those scenes just after the millenium as well. Not talking about bands like Queen of the stone age btw. Even though it was (and is) a pretty big scene it is still out of the mainstream picture. But when you look for it there's a whole shitload to discover :) I can mainly recommend stuff from the 2000 - 2010 when I was the most into checking new albums.
     
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  3. BlackBillBlake

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    It's dead because the idiom has been used up, done to death. That's my take on it anyway. There is no longer any novelty value left in rock music, and mainly it's become derivative and uninteresting.
     
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  4. Fairlight

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    Meat Puppets are still going!...(Who,I hear you opine?.)
     
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  5. Vanilla Gorilla

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    I don't buy the done to death argument, how many hundreds of Katie Perrys have their been over the last 40 years, pop has been done to death, and yet she's one of the biggest artists on the planet
     
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  6. Asmodean

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    Sometimes stoner rock is labeled as retro rock because they make use of certain rock or song structure clichés and characteristics. I don't think rock will every die just because it has been done to death as there will always be new people discovering (digging it back up :D) it, and not just by listening to it. This is not merely wishful thinking, I just have the feeling people's minds will always be blown when they discover the good stuff, and they WILL get influenced and inspired by it. Look at the blues. It just can't die :p It will always be recycled and rediscovered.
     
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  7. Asmodean

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7AM-EhxO28

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElSPdDgNl1w
     
  8. Asmodean

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbVN7sHzJ38

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj_QhAURkU0
     
  9. Asmodean

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxGD45SK08o

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekQ_uEQr06Q

    Shall I continue? :p :D
     
  10. Vanilla Gorilla

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    I don't mind that Bitchwax one, they sound like Kyuss, I'll check them out
     
  11. Asmodean

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    Members of Kyuss, which are seen by many as the originators of stoner rock, pronounced stoner rock dead around 2000 :p There came a shitload of cool bands and albums after that :D I was heavily into the genre around then, I still dig it but those where the days I really went out of my way to see good stoner rock. There's also a big festival in the netherlands (Roadburn) that used to focus more on stoner and psych. I saw everything there from Hawkwind to Electric Wizard, from Earthless to experimental and even slightly psychedelic black metal. Now they focus more on stuff I don't care for (less psychedelic, more experimental and progressive stuff)
     
  12. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    There is plenty of good music that's been put out from 2000-onwards. You just haven't heard it. You haven't heard it because you need to seek it out. It isn't going to seek you out.

    Everyone who says there's no longer good music being made is saying that because they're looking for mainstream radio and television to give them something good.
     
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  13. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR8jureTfhU

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6eC8C-K1Vs
     
  14. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6LEF9p5E0U

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFelXRjwoKA
     
  15. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mBSOtdOjoc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHaln2drAdc
     
  16. Asmodean

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    Wether we dig modern rock or not it is fair to say there were always enough alternatives to Limp Bizkit and nu metal :) Where it comes to rock I was really saved by the stoner rock scene though, as I rarely seem to appreciate indie/alternative rock, and if it would be all that's left of rock I would pronounce it dead too.

    What is actually great about a lot of modern rock is that it is often specialized on a certain sound. So where we used to have bands like Creedence (just to name a good example) who had all elements to appeal to everyone (from rock to country, from the mastery of their instrumental sound to the writing of a catchy tune), there are now bands focussing on a specific kind of sound. Sometimes this suits me really well, a lot of times it gets ruined for me because they focus on a sound that consists of elements I dislike or don't care for at all.
     
  17. Our society is too liberal for rock to matter as it once did. The revolution came and went and we missed it. Rock changed the world and now your twelve year-old niece can listen to the Misfits while her Southern Baptist parents laugh about how weird she is.

    The mainstream isn't really doing anything wrong in just putting out the most generic power chord shit they can find. All the independent musicians can piss and moan all they like, but let's face it, most people aren't art connoisseurs and never will be. When they want to feel like rock 'n' rollers you give them some Nickelback. When they want to feel like badass thugs, give them some Lil Wayne. There's no point in spending resources searching out well-respected musicians when your audience is, ultimately, not going to get it anyway.

    The underground is pathetic. There are so many different cliques, so many different ways of being "cool." And for the most part they're all transparent wannabes who wish they could get famous. I don't bother anymore. If I hear a song I like, it is purely by chance. I'm not going out buying records just to give a bunch of douchebags the fleeting feeling that they've done something worthwhile. Everybody just keep arguing about who is cooler, go to your cubicles, listen to Nickelback and shut up.
     
  18. Asmodean

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  19. Meliai

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    pretty much what everyone else has said. It doesn't exist in the mainstream but it does exist, only it isn't usually defined as rock anymore - it is usually broken down into some obscure subgenre of rock.

    I guess it depends on exactly what you mean by rock as well. The genre has redefined itself many times.
     
  20. Fairlight

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    Rock music is a zombie.Alive yet not dead.Dead yet not alive.
     

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