Speaking In Tongues

well speak up.

 

I like Mckenna's assement of glossolalia, although I've never experienced the phenomena on DMT (or at least don't recollect it) and perhaps only briefly on mushrooms myself, I like that Mckenna demystifies the experience in a sense while at the same time suggesting meaning in the experience. Mckenna approaches the phenomena as basically an expansion of Wittgenstein's concept of language-games.

Terrance McKenna Talks About Glossolalia: http://youtu.be/3iQLfCALknA

 

So glossolalia is an opening up of spontaneous expression going out everywhere that can alight anywhere there is a receiver. Now examining the source of these distinctions there are two distinct functions described in the coming down or coming into holy spirit. Tongues of fire lit on them and the other is glossolalia. Both converge on speaking in tongues or speaking in the tongue. The tongue of fire is the revealing tongue. It burns away distortion. In the form of glossolalia it burns away the sense of separation and in terms of the informative tongue it reorients the senses.

 

So now we have this term to deal with holy spirit.
Remember the elements of quantification, same and different or not the same.
Holy and spirit is the quantifying way of looking at the combined term.

As above so below.

Holy is not a condition separate from our own.
It means without blemish or distortion.

Spirit is breath. To become filled with the holy spirit is to become a being knowing no distortion or being able to penetrate the question of what is or what is different from that being.

It is said i will send the comforter to you the holy spirit, that teaches all things.

I am in it and it is in me.

The truth sets us free, comforts.

 

It is very common for people not to find a lot when they are looking for little.
Can you you hear yourself say you are exceptional and every one else isn't worth your serious scrutiny?
Got to have a shirt and tie to get in. Got to be a real man.
You are real already. you just find yourself in a straight jacket.

 

hmmm, must not have looked very hard, a simple Google inquiry yields 335,000 results.
surely there must be something out there.

you need to develop better critical reading skills and learn to read what is on the page without filtering it according to what you think is being said.
I imagine you don't see the assumptions as they are the same ones you are making possibly?


but whatever, what do you say concerning the scientific research that suggests that it is coming from some place/way beyond the direct control of the speaker?

I notice you completely skipped that portion of the research.

 

Speaking in tongues is a bunch of hooey.

 

What the hell do you use to speak with? i can think of only one exit wound.

 

It fits

 

I view you as having doubt. You don't offend.

 

My point in it is as the article stated, that it is a phenomena outside of the direct control of those experiencing it, as they claim, it is God speaking/praying through them via his spirit.
Is that really so far fetched when/if we stop and consider.
the research thus far does not give evidence that claim is in error, that is my point.

 

Speaking in tongues has been exposed as fake numerous times. Enough times to warrant that it is in no way genuinely real.

 

please back up that assumption with some hard science and proof.

 

http://www.skeptical-science.com/religion/speaking-in-tongues-the-real-story/

http://bible-truth.org/TonguesWhatisGoingOn.html

 

baby talk for adults. its fun. the fun of pure ego indulgence. in a kind of trance state. and i guess its mostly harmless. many 'tribal' beliefs in africa and elsewhere have this kind thing.
i wouldn't say there's anything wrong with it exactly. only that it really doesn't signify anything beyond the self indulgence and opportunity for doing so, that it is.

 

are you speaking from personal; experience or from watching others?