The Lsd Industry.

This is NOT a post asking for acid connections. I know that is against the rules of this site. This post is just a discussion of the LSD industry as a whole.

Back when I was into it, I was in a college town and I got it from a handful of people that all seemed to be "dry" or "wet" at the same time, so they presumably got it from the same person or people.

Is it true that it is made by just a few chemists in the northwest? I heard once that British Colombia is the hot spot for LSD production.

Obviously, it's not something that you can do yourself without advanced equipment, knowledge, and chemicals.

I was in Gainesville, Florida. There was some Rainbow people around there and some of them claimed to have ties to the "Hell's Angel's family."

Is LSD still trafficked by biker gangs? Some that come to mind that I know still exist are the Bandidos, Warlocks, Outlaws, and Hell's Angels.

I also read a story one time about some biker guys that set up a college kid with the necessary equipment and chemicals and he ended up getting caught. I also knew a guy who sold it at Grateful Dead shows in the 80's and said he got it from biker guys.

I also know that music festivals and raves are still a major distribution center.

What do you guys know or think about this? I am not asking anyone for connection, I don't even do it any more.

Does anyone know anything about the "higher ups" in the industry or how it works?

I also know that the retail price is one thing, but if you go up just one or two steps in the chain, they trade it like water.

And after doing some more research, I have seen that the production is centered in California, specifically northern California, but I've also heard British Colombia, Canada in the past. The question would be... why there? Is this just left over from the hippie days that were centered around San Francisco, or is there another reason for this?

Does it have anything to do with the supply of ergotamine tartarate or the proximity to the borders of Mexico and/or Canada?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Leonard_Pickard

This is the largest manufacture arrest ever, I think.

 

Canada is appealing because of the shorter prison terms. People caught up there do much shorter sentences then Pickard, That bust is somewhat over rated by the DEA I think. There is no shortage of good LSD if you know the right people today. It is pretty rare to make a LSD bust since as you said it takes smart people with expensive equipment. So they probably do not come across as criminals and people in the chain tend not to talk when caught, at least high up.

 

Okay I thought of the answer to my own question. Drug dealers. That was an obvious one.

Do you think the majority of the LSD trade is done by organized crime? I have looked on Google and found some instances of members of motorcycle gangs being arrested for trafficking the stuff.

Back in the day, I knew a few people who claimed to "know the chemist." Of course, I have no way to verify if that was true or not.

 

i hope the 81 find you and punish you for mentioning them here...i really do

 

richard the agent

 

I don't even know what the 81 is.

I knew some Rainbow guys that said they made it in the woods in Ocala.

But you know it's not easy to get all those chemicals. There's one called ergotamine tartarate that is necessary for the production of the real stuff and I know that is illegal in itself.

So even if someone had the knowledge and the chemistry equipment, they still need to have a source of all the "exotic" chemicals.

 

He also knows Rainbow people in Ocala...

*edit* See, he posted that at the same time as me.

So there's Rainbows and Bikers.

He knows about cool people.

 

I know that if I knew them TOO well, I'd be swimming in so much acid that I'd probably be in a mental hospital.

I remember it was hard for certain people to find, but the people who knew where to get it traded it like water.... but when they were dry, they were ALL dry...

 

Everyone in the ring/ game knows that if you get caught you don't talk. wtf are you trying to accomplish by posting this sort of title here Mr. Frog. If you are trying to educate yourself why don't you just do some research and toy around with chemical testing. This will tell you that it's really what it is...and if its safe. That is all you really need to know. Oh, once you find it...just hold onto it. but then again you sounding like the cops asking questions I am sure you know what a chemical agent test is.

 

Yeah, this post of his sounds straight up like a cop.

 

I know enough to know that it's not worth trying to make myself. Even if I did manage to get all the chemicals and equipment and know how to do it, the risk of getting caught is not worth it. Not only that, how much do I really NEED any way? I have no desires to be some big dealer or manufacturer and if I need so much acid that I need to make it myself, I think I should probably check myself into rehab instead.

I'm just kind of wondering how the industry works. I read on the DEA site that it's manufactured by a relatively few number of people, mostly out on the west coast.

If I even got back into doing it again, it would just be once in a while. Maybe two times per year. But I would be afraid that once I tried it again, I wouldn't be able to stop myself from doing it 3x per week.

Popular media would have you believe that it is trafficked by biker gangs. According to some research I've done, this seems to be true, and if there were any type of gang to do such a thing, they would be the ones to do it.

And I also know that one of the Rainbow guys I met back in the day said he was also in the "Hell's Angel's Family" and I was locked up one time with a Rainbow guy who said he manufactured it, and many other things, in the woods in Ocala.

He also told me that the Fed's were watching those woods. But obviously, that doesn't stop a lot of what goes on.

In Florida, manufacturing/trafficking/possession is all the same thing, it just depends on how much you have and they will weigh the containers and precursor chemicals and lab equipment as if it were drugs. I knew one person that had a scrape of meth on a glass plate and they weighed the plate and gave him trafficking for that.

But the good thing about acid is that once you find it, you can keep and store it really easily, especially if it is a Visine bottle as oppose to on paper. If a Visine bottle full of acid doesn't last me a few decades, I would say that I have a problem.

In fact, it might be wiser just to not look for it in the first place. Especially if I ever want to have kids or anything like that.

I know if I were to try to look for it in Florida, I would probably look for the Rainbow people in Ocala/Gainesville, but I could also try just mingling with college kids, or going out to Daytona Beach's Bike Week.

 

All of your ideas are far fetched. 1. broke college kids like making money, so they also tend to push other chemical agents like the NBOME series as LSD. 2. Gangs also use this tactic, but also use violence beware. 3. I wouldn't be surprised if the feds were watching the woods. Your statement about not having kids is also alarming. Many hippies raised families and held families many of which turned into doctors, lawyers, and other higher echelon part of the public.

You have also stated that if you did it once you wouldn't be able to stop yourself from doing it 3x per week...I'm sry but anyone who does this many drugs and tries to be a functional part of society will fail at some point. I don't think there is proof of it being addictive either so not being able to stop yourself...maybe you should just stay away from all drugs, even coffee, alcohol, aspirin, tobacco, cough syrup, eye drops, perfume, makeup, shit i can think of a ton of products you wont be able to use as they all have addictive tendencies.

Forget rainbow, pass on college kids, sign up as a cop. At least that way you can have kids right?

 

Actually, I (most likely) have a minor case of schizophrenia, meaning that the dopamine pathways in my brain are already activated excessively. Doing hallucinogens would probably only make things worse. But I do remember they were all kinds of fun back in the day.

I couldn't be a cop even if I wanted to. I am a felon. Not that I would want to in the first place.

Yes, I know some college kids who were robbed at gunpoint for dealing with people selling hallucinogens.

But the reason why it's such an "interesting" industry is because it's so hard to make. For example, anyone can make meth if they really wanted to.

Back in the day, I one time got a sheet of some stuff called DOX (I think). I didn't care. I still tripped hard.

 

omg i highly suggest you don't take LSD or any sort of hallucinogen if you have schizophrenia or any other related mental disease. I have seen way too many bad thing happen in these sorts of situations. You want my opinion, in all seriousness, just live your life without hallucinogens. This is a setup for disaster. I am not going to go into any personal stories for identification reasons, but please.

Anyone suggesting that this is an ok scenario is only trying to harm you, or gain something personally that does not benefit you in any way, shape or form. Good luck to you and your future. I am sorry to hear you have a felony.

 

I am very familiar with the DOC, DOI, DOx family. but I personally enjoy the mental situations that LSD puts you in. this is something that lacks in the Dox family.

 

You can't even tell me one story of a schizophrenic with hallucinogens? The only reason I would ever do them is for like a 2x/year "pick me up" (fountain of youth type thing) or to enhance sex.

 

People like you are what's wrong with drugs, and what's wrong with life.

 

And if I defended myself, I would get kicked off the forum.

I would say what's more wrong with drugs is the low-life drug dealers that rob college kids and don't care who they're messing up as long as they get a few bucks that they could get elsewhere if they really wanted to.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Leonard_Pickard

Look at what a psycho this guy looks like. And the members of these "biker gangs" are something to look up to?

And btw, I've seen biker gangs in prison. They are pathetic. No one listens to them and they get their ass kicked by 19 year old black kids.