Music Of The Underground

I would like to note there is a huge cultural difference of the hippies growing up today and those of the 60's. Sure the time was different. I loved the music then and I love the music now particularly the underground music culture. I am speaking of EDM and rave culture for todays youth yes. Some would like to petition that the times were nothing alike. I beg to differ and have an argument about how this part of history is trying to repeat itself. With the prohibition of marijuana to the police trying to raid out every EDM event that doesn't have tons of police involved in it. So with that said. Old timers what was your favorite type of underground music? Why?

I myself love Drum and Bass, particularly Bassnectar. He moves the crowd and guides them as if he is teaching us something from the ground floor. You don't even have to be on drugs to follow the scene either! I would have to say 808 is my favorite song followed with enough bass and it feels like my body is being massaged by the heavens.

 

"Underground" music is underground for a reason, not enough people enjoy it for it to be above ground.

Unlike the current generation, most of the music hippies listened to wasn't 'underground'... classic hippie music was top 40 pop back then. Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, The doors, The Birds, Moody Blues, Jefferson Airplane, etc...all in heavy rotation on AM hit radio by the late 60's.

EDM is overly repetitive canned music, ultimately very forgettable with no message or otherwise redeemable quality, IMO and the DJ's just a bunch of knob twiddling wankers, not actual musicians. It defies all logic to me that some of these charlatans are being treated like rockstars these days.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCmTyJAEutQ&list=PL05E184725A5175FA&index=23

:-D

 

I would like to respectfully argue your point of view. Although EDM is just now showing up in the mainstream via Ellie Goulding, Bassnectar, Skrillex, Lindsey Stirling. Have all hit top spots on Billboard, still to this day are being played on top hit radio stations, and are currently being modified by large pop, classical, Metal, Rock, Funk and R&B artists.

I would have to agree with you that some of the artists are being treated a bit over the top and should have never been introduced to music, however without a movement music will never change. Without change we will never advance as a species. If you like EDM with a message I suggest listening to EDM with lyrics instead of all beats. It would improve the way you look at an entire advancing industry.

 

I may be old, but I'm a modern musician. I use computer softwares to make music and I know how the technology of DJ'ing works. You don't have to have good timing, or know anything about making a groove, the computer will do all that for you automatically. Every change and effect, it's all synced and quantized by the software. I'm not trying to diminish what you feel is a rewarding musical experience, but it's mostly the machine you're hearing, not the man.
I'm not saying all electronic music sucks, on the contrary, there is really cutting edge, "underground" stuff out there.
I simply don't hear anything new or innovative in EDM. I don't believe thats it's purpose or origin anyway. It's just cheap party music that sounds really cool, like a lot of things when you're really high on X...

 

Doesn't add up. Can we hear some of your music?

 

What doesn't add up? And how is my music relevant to the topic?

 

What doesn't add up is your saying in one sentence that there's 'cutting edge' electronic dance music out there, and in the next that you don't hear anything new or innovative in electronic dance music. Regarding your music, you brought it up saying you make it using computers, and I'm wondering what it's like.

 

Is it true that every generation has heard an older generation say 'that isn't music' or 'that's no good'? The first time my mom heard Jimi Hendrix, she asked me if he was practicing, and then asked me never to play it when she was home. Elvis, Buddy, Beatles, James Brown, Stones, Public Enemy, etc.,every gen makes their own music, and well they should. I remember a Bob Dylan interview from forever ago and a reporter said, "Sorry, I just don't get your music." and Bob replied, "Then it isn't for you."

 

You've got to be kidding, dylan just made up words to what were essentially well worn folk progressions, he wasn't doing anything at all new musically.

Jimi Hendrix was one of the few that did do something new.

You might think it's just fogey talk but now there's mathematical proof that while music is getting more boring, in an attempt to compensate for it's lack of variety, it's also getting louder!

http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2012/07/science-music

 

The closest I get to EDM is stuff like Squarepusher, Flying Lotus, and Thundercat.

C/S,
Rev J

 

I said there's good electronic music, I didn't mean the genre thats called EDM or electronic dance music.


I prefer to record real musicians playing the parts on real instruments, but I do use sequencing programs sometimes to make drum and bass backing tracks. I rarely use electronic sounds, mostly digital samples of real instruments. I use computer software for just about every aspect of recording and post-production. I haven't uploaded anything with examples of my D&B programming. Here's a piece I recorded several years ago with trumpet and gong.
https://soundcloud.com/gongshaman/twilite-realm
(Please use earbuds or quality home-stereo speakers if possible, the gongs lower frequency's don't reproduce well on tiny laptop spkrs)

 

That's true. It doesn't sound like you're interested in finding any good electronic dance music. Thanks for sharing your stuff. I'd be interested in hearing your drum and bass stuff if you upload it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p3xBZvWR_c

 

Saying Dylan just made up words may be accurate, but he did make up words the way Shakespeare or Whitman or Ginsberg made up words. No disrespect to those who don't like him; no one appeals to everyone.

 

Without a doubt, Dylan wrote some great songs.

 

How do I post some youtube vids on HF I am fairly new. I would like to post some interesting EDM that has bob dylan in it for the masses lol.

 

http://www.theonion.com/articles/rock-fans-outraged-as-bob-dylan-goes-electronica,17699/

Shit is as good as gold right lol

 

Your link didn't work. Here's what I got

"The page you were looking for is not here.

Clearly, this is because you have damaged the inter-net."
LOL

Just paste the url of a youtube video right in the reply box

I should mention, I prefer Bob Dylan songs when Bob's not singing them.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdzSpyXMK7M

 

"The page you were looking for is not here. Clearly, this is because you have damaged the inter-net."