The Perfect Diet.

Discussion in 'Let Food Be Your Medicine' started by RichardTheFrog, Nov 21, 2014.

  1. RichardTheFrog

    RichardTheFrog Newbie

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    This is a very good diet that contains every single nutrient, including all vitamins and minerals, that one would need. And it is inexpensive, too!

    -canned Mackerel
    -cocoa powder
    -spinach
    -water
    -sunflower seeds
    -multivitamin
    -bread

    What do you think?
     
  2. r0llinstoned

    r0llinstoned Gute Nacht, süßer Prinz

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  3. RichardTheFrog

    RichardTheFrog Newbie

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    This isn't a joke. Look it up.

    Fish = complete protein, all your calcium (the bones), and good fatty acids
    cocoa powder = the most under recognized food around. Has 30 times more antioxidants than blueberries
    spinach = has more nutrients than any other green, fiber
    sunflower seeds = Vitamin E and more good oils
    water = obviously
    multivitamin = obviously, even though natural sources are better
    bread = carbohydrate source.

    What do you not like about this?
     
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  4. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Bread as a carbohydrate source is one of the worst carbohydrates in the world. Ideally, the only carbohydrates one should eat are those from green leafy vegetables, some fruits, seeds and nuts,
     
  5. RichardTheFrog

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    Actually, none of what you said has complex carbohydrates in it.

    I forgot to add the B-vitamin content of bread that is another good benefit of it.
     
  6. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    What do you call non-starchy vegetables, seeds and nuts?? Those are COMPLEX CARBOHYDRATES. Simple carbohydrates are those coming from sugar and make up most junk food. They cause instability in blood sugar, which leads to spikes and crashes (which leads to impaired functioning and performance).

    There are also far better sources of B vitamins than bread -- namely meat and dairy (cheese, eggs, etc.) Bread is one of the worst things you can eat, 1) because it contains gluten, which is inflammatory, and 2) because it rapidly digests and spikes the blood sugar, triggering an insulin release that causes the body to immobilize and store fat.

    There is nothing healthy about bread (regardless if it's whole grain or white bread). Vegetables and seeds make for much better sources of dietary fiber. The much-touted "whole grains" we are told are healthy are really quite unhealthy and are the cause of sickness and ill health in many people.

    Other than that, your list isn't too bad, but I would not recommend a person try and sustain themselves eating only those things.
     
  7. RichardTheFrog

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    So what do you think is the best source of carbohydrates? Seeds and nuts?
     
  8. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    1) Green, leafy, non-starchy vegetables (spinach, kale, broccoli)
    2) Seeds (chia, etc.)
    3) Nuts (macadamias, pecans, walnuts)
     
  9. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    i'd rather starve.
     
  10. RichardTheFrog

    RichardTheFrog Newbie

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    Then do it.
     
  11. YouFreeMe

    YouFreeMe Visitor

    op, I think you're a liar, frogs don't eat any of those things. maybe water.
     
  12. RichardTheFrog

    RichardTheFrog Newbie

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  13. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    did you just tell me to kill myself for not liking your diet?
     
  14. RichardTheFrog

    RichardTheFrog Newbie

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    I don't think so.
     
  15. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    The unified global diet is part of the UN hobbit-hole initiative. He's just a shill.

    If you recall, obama's position on diets is that if you like yours, you can keep it - but the whole time behind the scenes, michelle and richard have been trying to make food suck, one message-board at a time.
     
  16. deleted

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    nobody has recommended you eat a bag of dicks.. Im surprised at their restraint today.. ;)
     
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  17. Cannabliss88

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    It may be a good sustainable way to eat on a budget but because it lacks variety I don't think its healthy in the long run. When I was living out of my car I basically ate that way but got down to 114 pounds and I'm 6 feet tall! (my normal weight is 122 lb but still underweight.

    Variety is the key to a healthy diet in my opinion. I am currently on a diet to gain weight (fat and muscle) and I just made this awesome stew with lots of veggies cooked in 2 sticks of butter and 3 pounds of 20% fat meat. Butter and saturated fat are currently the most controversial topic because there may be benefits but there may be risks and studies are so conflicting.

    Essentially variety is the spice of life. The more different kinds of fruits, vegetables, nuts seeds, whole grains (for us non-paleos of course), healthy fats, meats, and superfoods (containing many trace minerals) we eat the better.

    Also we shouldn't be afraid of butter. People have been eating butter and animal fats since the dawn of humanity while oils like canola, cottonseed and soy are modern science experiments.

    I also agree with pressed rat that bread is not the best source of grains (even "wholegrain" which usually isn't whole grain at all) and any diet that is so limited will only lead to boredom to the point where you don't even want to eat.
     
  18. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    All the best evidence shows that saturated fat from whole food sources is completely healthy, even in large amounts. The Inuits ate a diet of almost entirely fat yet were some of the healthiest people in the world before modern-day junk food was introduced into their diets. Foods that are high in fat like real butter, coconut oil, avocado and tree nuts are some of the most nutrient-dense foods available. It isn't until a person begins consuming sugar and fast-digesting carbohydrates that the fat in one's diet becomes unhealthy. In the context of a low carbohydrate diet, dietary fat is readily burned off and used for energy. When a person eats fat with sugar and refined carbohydrates, the ensuing insulin response causes the fat to be stored in the body (the fat cells, the blood, as well as the organ tissue such as the liver) where it can accumulate to dangerous levels. This leads to obesity, elevated triglycerides, high blood pressure, and blood sugar issues (and just about every other disease that afflicts people today -- diabetes, cancer, etc).

    I know I have said this a million times, and I probably sound like a broken record player at this point, but it's something I feel needs to be emphasized.
    Yes -- science experiments indeed. Good way to put it! Trans fats and polyunsaturated fats high in omega-6 fatty acids, on the other hand, are BAD fats no matter how you look at it. Trans fats should not be consumed by anyone, while omega-6 fatty acids should be consumed only from whole food sources that result in a healthy ratio to omega-3 fatty acids. The Standard American Diet has an unbalanced omega 3:6 ratio (which favors inflammatory omega-6 fatty acids) because of the nasty oils you mentioned above, which are found in most processed foods. It's these kinds of fats that are found in processed foods that make the good fats from saturated, monounsaturated and omega-3 fatty acids look bad.

    In short, fat is perhaps one of the healthiest things you can eat. But it is important to know the good fats from the bad fats, as well as how ALL fats (good and bad) are processed by the body in the presence of insulin that is released when one eats sugar and carbohydrates.
     
  19. Cannabliss88

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    Good points but for someone who is trying to gain weight in both muscle and fat wouldn't it be wise to eat a significant amount of healthy carbohydrates like yams and fruits in addition to the fats and proteins we all need. I like the idea of paleo but low carb probably isn't the best idea for someone who is underweight due to a naturally high metabolism right?
     
  20. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    If you're looking to gain weight, carbs probably would not hurt, but I would stick to the safer starches like white rice and potatoes, while avoiding grains and things containing gluten and phytates.

    I think healthy diets like the paleo diet have a way of sort of normalizing a person's weight, regardless if they are trying to lose or gain. I think a high fat diet can just as easily help a person gain weight as it can help them lose weight, while also making sure you're getting enough protein for muscle growth.

    Basically for a person looking to gain weight, I would recommend a fairly liberal amount of unrefined starchy carbs from rice and potatoes, combined with a fair amount of fatty meats, cheese, heavy cream, and a high-quality whey protein powder concentrate. I make my protein shakes with heavy cream, MCT oil, as well as creatine and the branched-chain amino acid, leucine. I put on 20-25 lbs of muscle in a year doing this while NOT spending hours in the gym. I also fast upwards of 22-24 hours, three times per week.

    People who are underweight usually have less muscle than they do fat, so they really need to concentrate on gaining weight in the form of muscle.
     

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