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#61 RooRshack

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Posted November 19 2014 - 04:13 PM

 

Sure, they're good pictures, but why are they important?

 

I could not draw pictures that good, but many people in every art class I've ever been in could, dating back to the 3rd grade.

 

Right now, I am looking for an illustrator for the religion book that I'm writing and my inbox is fulled with 100s of pictures that are just as good.

 

And why is Shakespeare in every history book for writing stories? Maybe just because he was the first to do a thing like that?

 

Why is anything important?


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Posted November 19 2014 - 05:20 PM

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Posted November 19 2014 - 05:41 PM

If you really understand the mysteries and wonders in the arena of science, then you would understand there is no difference between science and art.

true science is art.

 

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Posted November 20 2014 - 04:24 AM

I know all scientific facts. And if I don't memorize them, I have the materials available for reference.



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Posted November 20 2014 - 04:26 AM

you can't compare art and WWII lol. That goes beyond apples and oranges.

art is important because people enjoy it. It takes people away from the horrific living nightmares created by other humans....such as war. War is humanity's worst side. Art is our best.

 

Is art the best though?

 

Is a Rembrandt painting "better" than an image taken from the Hubble Space Telescope showing galaxies that are billions of light-years away?

 

I would say the Space Telescope is a more impressive achievement, because I can remember people in art class painting things that are not too much different from Rembrandt's, and the teacher especially.



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Posted November 20 2014 - 06:38 AM

Well Rembrandt painted in his own style many centuries ago. Although copying a style to perfection can be impressive too it's rarely seen as art in the same way as the paintings of the originator. Art from centuries ago often gives insight in how and why people thought and lived like they did. When I see some of your questions it seems that art like Rembrandt's could be very valuable to you.


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Posted November 20 2014 - 08:14 AM

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Posted November 20 2014 - 11:30 AM

If you really understand the mysteries and wonders in the arena of science, then you would understand there is no difference between science and art.

true science is art.

 

 

Frontier motherfuckers leaving footprints of their mind.

 

It's not the art that's important, it's the progression of consciousness. Although, there is the possibility of an emotional relationship to a piece. That's raw beauty :D  Beauty, beauty, beauty.. what an existential wormhole.

 

 

I find it interesting though, Pollock's work is great because it's fractal in nature. It may look like random shit, but there's something more in it.

 

http://discovermagaz...nov/featpollock

 

Also, in van Gogh's "Starry Night", he managed to capture the essence of Turbulent Flow.

 


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Posted November 20 2014 - 01:27 PM

Is a Rembrandt painting "better" than an image taken from the Hubble Space Telescope showing galaxies that are billions of light-years away?

 

Stop trying to set science and art up in a competition that doesn't exist.

 

You need to read up on the life and work of Leonardo da Vinci, who was one of the first great thinkers to show equal interest and aptitude in both science and art.  He didn't choose between them or consider one to be better or more important.  Try to understand his point of view.

 

The best way to learn about art is to immerse yourself in the highest quality art of all kinds, and see if any of it speaks to you.  The best place I can think of to do this is the Smithsonian Museum in Washington.  Every major genre of art has its own building.  It should take about three days to cover them all, without hurrying.  Go with an open mind.  Find out which works you are drawn to, and try to figure out what the artist is trying to communicate.  Keep in mind that these people think on a very high level.  Otherwise, they wouldn't be in the Smithsonian.

 

If nothing else works for you, you can at least marvel at the level of talent displayed.  For example, viewed up close, the paintings of Claude Monet look like amateurish blobs of paint, almost like something a child would do.  Take a few steps back, and they are better than photographs.  Only a genius could do something like that, or even have a desire to do so.  It's an amazing display of the potential power of the human mind.

 

Many works of contemporary (modern) art are based on optical illusions and principles of physical science and geometry.  Any science guy should be able to get something out of them.


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Posted November 20 2014 - 03:16 PM

I've been to the Salvador Dali museum in St. Petersburg, Florida. The painting, especially the murals, are amazing. I could never even hope to do something like that.

 

But I still think the Large Hadron Collider is a more impressive achievement, and more useful.



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Posted November 20 2014 - 03:30 PM

I've been to the Salvador Dali museum in St. Petersburg, Florida.

 

I love his work!

 

I still think the Large Hadron Collider is a more impressive achievement, and more useful.

 

You're doing it again.  toetap05.gif   Where did you get this idea that we have to choose between art and science?  It's fucked up.


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Posted November 20 2014 - 03:41 PM

 

 It's fucked up.

 

 

 

OP is fucked up...


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Posted November 20 2014 - 03:42 PM

sculptures = ancient Greeks, Michelangelo, 

 

paintings = Rembrandt, Dali, Picasso, 

 

architectural marvels = the pyramids, Gothic cathedrals, Russian domed cathedrals, the Eiffel Tower, modern skyscrapers

 

It's all great, but I think figuring out the DNA molecule atom-by-atom is so much more impressive.



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Posted November 20 2014 - 03:56 PM

Why is art important?

 

I'm a science guy.

 

I read history books and when it comes to the art section of each chapter, I don't entirely see the point.

 

Gothic cathedrals, Michaelangelo, architecture, Shakespeare, etc.

 

How is this relevant and important?

 

I'm not saying that it's not. I am just asking if there is something that I'm missing.

 

Obviously, art is a very important aspect of human expression. 

 

What is the meaning of a poem for example? Like Robert Frost "The Road Less Travelled"....

 

it means that sometimes it's good to take the lesser travelled route, right?

 

So I get it too, don't I?

 

The meaning of a poem? Even when it's written by an individual, it's open to interpretation, so the reader interprets it and applies it to their own life- just like any other piece of art.



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Posted November 20 2014 - 04:01 PM

Or maybe it means nothing and people just stare at it looking for meaning.



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Posted November 20 2014 - 04:12 PM

You really capture the essence of another troll that has posted here before. 


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Posted November 20 2014 - 04:13 PM

If you're not the same troll, it's probably just that all trolls are the same.



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Posted November 20 2014 - 04:15 PM

Same troll


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Posted November 20 2014 - 04:46 PM

ignore it and maybe it will go away


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Posted November 20 2014 - 04:54 PM

Maybe I would just be better off on an anthropology forum, science forum, etc.



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Posted November 20 2014 - 05:05 PM

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Posted November 20 2014 - 06:20 PM

Leonardo da Vinci produced the most precisely drawn dissections of the human body in 1510.

 

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Posted November 28 2014 - 08:26 AM

 

Sure, they're good pictures, but why are they important?

 

I could not draw pictures that good, but many people in every art class I've ever been in could, dating back to the 3rd grade.

 

Right now, I am looking for an illustrator for the religion book that I'm writing and my inbox is fulled with 100s of pictures that are just as good.

 

And why is Shakespeare in every history book for writing stories? Maybe just because he was the first to do a thing like that?

 

Shakespeare was the first writer I'm aware of who portrayed a sense of dimension onto the characters. In forms of writing, it was like jumping from this Dark Ages attempt at perspective, vs The Renaissance's breakthrough with perspective:

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Posted November 28 2014 - 10:31 AM

Shakespeare was the first writer I'm aware of who portrayed a sense of dimension onto the characters. In forms of writing, it was like jumping from this Dark Ages attempt at perspective, vs The Renaissance's breakthrough with perspective:

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Yes but there's always REAL PEOPLE. Even Shakespeare's dimensional people aren't the real thing. 

 

Architecture is cool, though.



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Posted April 16 2016 - 12:54 AM

Why is art important?

 

The visual arts are music for the eyes. Most art occurs in the looking. It's spiritual.

 

I don't mean to be critical of your question, RTF - it's a good one - but I don't particularly think that importance comes into it. Though this is just my view.



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Posted June 10 2016 - 05:36 AM

what art does that is important, is to remind people there is a universe out there not limited by what corporate media wants to let them be aware of. 

not only that there is a universe out there, but that they can think and live and make things and do things, that it (media) doesn't want to remind them is even possible for them to imagine,

very may of which, even a few people together can do and even some one person alone can.

 

this is why i make my own pictures of villages of different kinds of houses and transportation also.

 

and one of those things even one person along can do, is also make pictures or music or whatever, of their own ideas that haven't come to them predigested. 


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Posted June 10 2016 - 08:32 AM

Art is important to me, and I really don't care if it is to anyone else or not.



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Posted June 10 2016 - 07:40 PM

Art is important to me, and I really don't care if it is to anyone else or not.

Let me guess you’re a fan of Thomas Gainsborough who was a lover of dogs and often included them in his paintings  :)

 

 

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Posted June 10 2016 - 10:42 PM

Let me guess you’re a fan of Thomas Gainsborough who was a lover of dogs and often included them in his paintings  :)

 

 

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Um...who? lol



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Posted June 11 2016 - 08:35 PM

Um...who? lol

 

Sorry I assumed because you’re a lover of animals you’d be familiar with Gainsborough 

 

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